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So today was the Windows Phone 7 announcement and a lot of new devices were announced including the HTC 7 Mozart:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-and-7-trophy-set-out-to-conquer-the-wp7-world-7-pr/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-first-hands-on/
Pretty similar hardware and look to our Desire... I know it's early now but do you think that we will be able to port Windows Phone 7 to our Desire? Just for fun... Android is good enough.
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Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
EleCtrOx666 said:
Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Devs here have made wonders, and I think I saw a dev here running WP 7 on an HD 2....
I think we only need some sort of a bootloader... as the hardware is pretty similar it should boot and some parts should work.
I'm also more than satisfied with Android, but hey... as a geek, dual booting my smartphone does have some appeal
Seems unlikely. One of the biggest problems with pouring android to a wm phone is that some of the drivers are in the radio rom and that is closed. So a huge among of work goes into figuring out how to talk to the hardware then coding that into the linux kernel source. In the case of wp7, there will be no source code at all, just binaries. Without haret and debug information, there is no way to start other than flashing the rom and seeing whether it bricks. Maybe if haret got ported out would be a start. (maybe it already has, I didn't look at this for a while).
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
rete said:
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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These clones always make me laugh a little. Why don't they just put Android on them? Lol.
I'm 100% sticking with Android but, I'd love to be able to dual boot WP7. You know, just to say I can
This would be hard work!
WP7 ist not OpenSource so creating driver etc is vey heavy!
Side note, anyone know if its going to be SIM free? Orange have the exclusive as an operator but I'm quite tempted to have a look at this...first previews are saying WP7 is VERY fast
Orange will have paid through the nose to get exclusivity of this phone so don't expect to see it sim free for at least a couple of months, they normally have either 6 weeks, 3 months or 6 months exclusive rights before going sim free.
I suppose cause the ROMs are out it could just be debranded, assuming it's not too hard to break the bootloader
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
Wondows 7 on htc desire
I would also love, If My HTC Desire is capable of dual boot on Windows 7 and Android. After having such a good hardware but if it does not support on software then it such hardware is of no use.
ameel said:
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
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Any one found a workaround to this yet? Dual booting is lovely. For this reason, I happen to put a hand on a HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and I can boot Android on it but the phone is not mine, so now Im searching for a good HTC phone that gives me the options to play with.
Hi dear,
I bought my great HTC HD2 for T-Mobile a week ago.
I'm using Android as a daily OS.
It's quite cool and smooth. Actually, it's faster than my old phone, galaxy s.
By the way, I'm wondering if my HD2 will be able to get Windows Phone 7 OS.
Although it will not be official version, will it be possible to be released custom rom?
Please let me know about it. To be honest, I'm really enjoying with Android but
I just want to try New OS.
I have used BlackBerry Bold 9700, Samsung Omnia 2, Nokia N900, Galaxy s and HD2 which will be my destination.lol (ah, ipod touch as well..-_-)
Each OS has totally different system so I've been very exciting using OSes.
atm its not possible to get the WP7 to the HD2
this is because the lack of good drivers for sound, display ect ect
maybe in the near future
Has anyone considered developing Android on the Advantage. I have seen it for other WM devices.
Pda23 said:
Has anyone considered developing Android on the Advantage. I have seen it for other WM devices.
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Forget it, all devs moved to newer devices, not even WM gets updated anymore...
Damm - Maybe a developer will see this post and maybe...................
I also hope someday there will be new (Win or Droid) build.
I have two X7500 and both last Michy or ABG does not really support my needs.
Slow and not all (good) apps.
Half year ago I bought a Touch Pro 2 but that forum is almost dead too.
When will HTC come with a new, complete, fast, 5 inch or larger screen again? :->
I want to buy HTC 7 Mozart but I don't want to use Windows phone 7
Can I install Android instead of WP7 in HTC 7 Mozart
and can I down grade to Windows mobile 6.5
thanks a lot
As far as I know, WP7 is an only system, which can be loaded in Mozart, now...
eng_bobbo said:
I want to buy HTC 7 Mozart but I don't want to use Windows phone 7
Can I install Android instead of WP7 in HTC 7 Mozart
and can I down grade to Windows mobile 6.5
thanks a lot
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no way
if u want android - buy android phone.
but, imho, wp7 much better
eng_bobbo said:
I want to buy HTC 7 Mozart but I don't want to use Windows phone 7
Can I install Android instead of WP7 in HTC 7 Mozart
and can I down grade to Windows mobile 6.5
thanks a lot
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Why would want to run lousy OS on Mozart? Lag , lag and more lag. Especially with single core CPU. Even dual core CPU lag.
you could always try reading one of the MANY other threads asking the same question
or ask yourself why do you want a mozart if you dont want WP7
TL;DR: idiot
I want too
wp7 to android
Thats probably one of the most stupid questions I have heard this week, search the market for an Android phone that looks like the Mozart and buy it....
I would love to have android on mozart too
kkcheong said:
Why would want to run lousy OS on Mozart? Lag , lag and more lag. Especially with single core CPU. Even dual core CPU lag.
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your brain lags. It prevents you from speaking properly.
peacekeeper05 said:
I would love to have android on mozart too
your brain lags. It prevents you from speaking properly.
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With current smooth UI from iOS and WP7, Android is Winmo 6.5 of the current mobile world.
Buy android phone.You like the appearance of Mozart?
buy HTC HD2 u can have wm6.5, android or WP7 on it
maybe you must go to HTC factory center then you tell them if you want to change the wp7 os to android on your mozart.. good luck...
I believe it is a matter of hardware why this will not work
I have a HTC Mozart 7. You can't downgrade to 6.5 sadly. But I hope the developers make a rom that would run 6.5 on mozart. The new android phones such as Samsung galaxy 2 is well better then Mozart but if you like a buisness phone buy a Mozart because you get great services from it such as emails and Microsoft office etc... On the other hand tho android does the same.
All am saying is you should go for HTC Mozart or a Samsung galaxy. In my opinion their both good phones.
Question
No one has actuly answered the question yet though.
Is it actuly possible, even a slight chance?
If some of the android apps were ported over I wouldn't want android on my phone, but I like most of the apps like Temple Run and Mine Craft (Minecraft is very addictive game, I have it on xbox and p.c, but only I had it on my WP7), a brilliant games on android and IOS but not on WP7
I love the smoothness of WP7 and its load of capabilities but just not the app market.
jeez, you're going to change a licensed phone into a free-licensed one? Windows phone has it's own Limited license (belongs to Microsoft) while that droid has no limited license..
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okay, I will answer this to conclude all of the replies.
Answer: NO. there is no chance of you to install a droid into your hTC 7 Mozart, unless you got your own way on how to flash the rom with that droid's files and configure the files to run with the hardware properly.
*Correction for this post is strongly allowed
Everyone who likes the change, may wants to have a multi OS phone ... just like me...
I had a HD2 but on that time it had just windows 6.5 and now I have a mozart and strongly want to have many OS on my phone ...
It isn't stupid at all...
if you want you can convert cLK (open source loader) .
eng_bobbo said:
I want to buy HTC 7 Mozart but I don't want to use Windows phone 7
Can I install Android instead of WP7 in HTC 7 Mozart
and can I down grade to Windows mobile 6.5
thanks a lot
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So do I,but I can't find any way to do that.
eng_bobbo said:
I want to buy HTC 7 Mozart but I don't want to use Windows phone 7
Can I install Android instead of WP7 in HTC 7 Mozart
and can I down grade to Windows mobile 6.5
thanks a lot
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I'm also want to install an android in my HTC Mozart!
Hey folks,
Do you think that our lovely Titan will receive an official update?
Yes, I think even the gen1 devices are getting the apollo update (WP8)
Finalforce1111 said:
Hey folks,
Do you think that our lovely Titan will receive an official update?
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HTC Titan theoratically should be getting uptil WP8.5 or WP9 unless those version will need extra hardware to run. Microsoft has sold major phones on contract bases. Contracts in Europe and USA are 2 years. Thus, Microsoft would ideally try and not be Android. Instead it will be more like iPhone where iPhone 3G got uptil iOS 5 but runs a little choppy now after 3 updates.
Forgive me for coming into this conversation late then;
Is the plan that Windows 8 will be an update available for anyone with a Windows 7.5 device? In other words, if i go out and buy the Titan this afternoon (most likely) and 8 comes out in a months time, il be able to load 8 on to the device? Or simply that new devices will come with 8 installed?
It's my understanding that Windows 8 and WP8 will both use a different kernel. So the CE based kernel in WP7 will not be compatible. Not sure how they'd handle the transition, but it would be nice to be able to have WP8 on the Titan.
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Forgive me for coming into this conversation late then;
Is the plan that Windows 8 will be an update available for anyone with a Windows 7.5 device? In other words, if i go out and buy the Titan this afternoon (most likely) and 8 comes out in a months time, il be able to load 8 on to the device? Or simply that new devices will come with 8 installed?
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Yes, 8 will be an update, it's not going to be a new device exclusive thing. The Titan is going to get it, as was already said in this thread. And I would not be surprised if every windows phone gets it. Every single one.
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It's my understanding that Windows 8 and WP8 will both use a different kernel. So the CE based kernel in WP7 will not be compatible. Not sure how they'd handle the transition, but it would be nice to be able to have WP8 on the Titan.
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I don't think this is true. Any of it. First of all, WP7 uses CE 7 as the kernel and it still has support for WM6 (CE 6) applications. I haven't heard anything about a CE 8, and I highly doubt that they would move on to a CE 8 kernel so early in Window's Phone history. I could be wrong. But even if CE 8 is the new kernel, it will have zero impact on compatibility. It has already been stated that WP8 will run all WP7 apps (and frankly I don't think this even needed to be mentioning; to drop support two iterations in a row would be the death of the platform).
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Yes, 8 will be an update, it's not going to be a new device exclusive thing. The Titan is going to get it, as was already said in this thread. And I would not be surprised if every windows phone gets it. Every single one.
I don't think this is true. Any of it. First of all, WP7 uses CE 7 as the kernel and it still has support for WM6 (CE 6) applications. I haven't heard anything about a CE 8, and I highly doubt that they would move on to a CE 8 kernel so early in Window's Phone history. I could be wrong. But even if CE 8 is the new kernel, it will have zero impact on compatibility. It has already been stated that WP8 will run all WP7 apps (and frankly I don't think this even needed to be mentioning; to drop support two iterations in a row would be the death of the platform).
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What I meant is that I have heard WP8 will use the actual Windows 8 kernel, as in, the desktop and mobile version will use the full desktop kernel. I'm not sure how that would translate to an OTA update for us, or if that would even be possible without a tethered full wipe and reflash of the device.
EDIT: Here's where I read it... http://wmpoweruser.com/leak-confirms-windows-phone-8-will-use-the-windows-8-kernel/
You're right, they are making it the desktop kernel. I'm sure an OTA update can be done. If not, an updated ROM will be released.
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I think OTA for Windows Phone 8 will surely be rolled out. Titan being Gen 2, won't have any issues as far as all the indications go. If anything we will be flooded be amazing apps as there ought to be an influx of apps from Windows 8 devs too!
I think we hopefully will get ample of information in less than 3 weeks from now
This is a interesting topic, but if my memory not failing me, MSFT said at the start that all phones will get future updates. And while Apollo might be the first exeption or not, MSFT haven't stated any changes for future updates so I would say that until they officially says somthibg new, its business as usual. Or am I completly off? Just look at the difference between first and second gen. There was new hardware introduced but all got the update, only diff was if its no hardware for a specific function it can't simply run that...but the update brought the rest of the goodies, and even workarounds to give the best possible alternative was made.