i was just wondering, do you think the Jetstream will get ICS?
HTC announced the other day of the first wave of devices that will get it..the Jetstream wasn't on that list. i know not all hope is lost, but i fear they won't update it. and it needs to be updated, the 3.1 is simply the worst.
so, what do you think?
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i'm writing every couple of days on the HTC facebook wall about that, hoping to get some attention..
i think it'll be good if others will do the same.
I have no doubt we will get it. HTC is one of the manufacturers that promised to support android updates for 18 months after a product is released.
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I would be quite surprised and disappointed if the Jetstream wasn't one of the first devices to see ICS. System wide stylus support and better media and social integration would seem to me to align quite well with HTC's goals to have a stand-out device. In it's current configuration the Jetstream just seems eccentric and inefficient. Some of the best hardware being smothered by its software. The removal of h.264 support, the rather ho hum browser and mail apps and lack of quality applications to take advantage of scribe (notes and PDFviewer are rather miserable,) really hamper what could be a stand-out device (in a way other than price.) Here's to hoping some ice cream sandwiches are sufficient to reverse this hypoglycemic techno shock.
that's exactly what i was thinking!
honeycomb 3.1 is the worse android version out there.
and you can actually feel the device suffering with it.
i'm affraid htc won't bother to update it because they only have a couple of tablets, both of them are not best sellers...
i'd be less anxious about it if we had a root access or at least an unlocked bootloader. but htc are taking their sweet time with that as well.
i hope i'm mistaking..
guru_shastri said:
honeycomb 3.1 is the worse android version out there.
and you can actually feel the device suffering with it.
i'm affraid htc won't bother to update it because they only have a couple of tablets, both of them are not best sellers...
i'd be less anxious about it if we had a root access or at least an unlocked bootloader. but htc are taking their sweet time with that as well.
i hope i'm mistaking..
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Couldn't agree more. It seems like the few of us that bought this device are going to be stuck with what it shipped with - no dev support and no HTC support. Hope I'm wrong too...
As someone who is on the fence about buying this device, the lack of support concerns me. Of course we could all be wrong and htc will support it.
It's unfortunate htc gave this device to AT&T. Can AT&T be charged with tablet-slaughter? I don't think there is a device on the market that compares and won't until sometime after February 2012, at least from an artist's perspective. So I could wait six months or just get one. There will always be a new device coming and if I keep waiting I may never get anything.
Here's hoping htc supports the Jetstream.
the weirdest thing
is that even the bounty got no response.
personally i can't spare the money (espcially after purchasing the Jetstream itself), but 550$ for cracking it, and no takers? i'm worried.
if your not an owner - don't get one.
that's my opinion.
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is that even the bounty got no response.
personally i can't spare the money (espcially after purchasing the Jetstream itself), but 550$ for cracking it, and no takers? i'm worried.
if your not an owner - don't get one.
that's my opinion.
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The thing is I don't plan to root the device. I just want it for sketchbook pro, photoshop touch and general web browsing.
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The thing is I don't plan to root the device. I just want it for sketchbook pro, photoshop touch and general web browsing.
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Then you will love it. I have no doubt. Haven't worked with PS touch, but sketchbook pro is amazing on the jetstream with the stylus..
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I would be quite surprised and disappointed if the Jetstream wasn't one of the first devices to see ICS.
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The Jetstream has all the makings of an orphan. It's only been released (via the carriers) in the U.S. and Canada. I'd guess total sales to be below 50K units total. There was never a Wi-Fi version released and it was never offered through retail channels - the exact opposite of the Flyer. HTC's already announced the quad-core Quattro 10.1 tablet for Q1 2012 in both 3G and Wi-Fi versions. Also, AT&T's just started selling an LTE G-Tab 8.9 with the same processor that's in the Jetstream for a lot less money. They're also throwing in a free Skyrocket as part of the launch which certainly is more aggresive than a free Scribe pen. I think the Jetstream's days are numbered and if it does get ICS its low volume certainly wouldn't put it at the top of HTC's list.
i think your right...
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The Jetstream has all the makings of an orphan. It's only been released (via the carriers) in the U.S. and Canada. I'd guess total sales to be below 50K units total. There was never a Wi-Fi version released and it was never offered through retail channels - the exact opposite of the Flyer. HTC's already announced the quad-core Quattro 10.1 tablet for Q1 2012 in both 3G and Wi-Fi versions. Also, AT&T's just started selling an LTE G-Tab 8.9 with the same processor that's in the Jetstream for a lot less money. They're also throwing in a free Skyrocket as part of the launch which certainly is more aggresive than a free Scribe pen. I think the Jetstream's days are numbered and if it does get ICS its low volume certainly wouldn't put it at the top of HTC's list.
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i'm not sure they can abandon it alltogether. i have no hope from at&t mainly because i don't live in the USA.
HTC must support it in one way or another...i just hope that it won't end in a 3.2 version in 6 monthes from now.
it s-o expensive, and to have spent so much money and be ignored pisses me off.
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i have no hope from at&t mainly because i don't live in the USA.
HTC must support it in one way or another...i just hope that it won't end in a 3.2 version in 6 monthes from now.
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Because it was never sold retail, any updates will only be made available by and through the carriers not HTC directly. As for ICS, I'd guess it depends how much of the work on the Quattro can be easilly ported to the Jetstream and how willing AT&T is to accept the training and documentation liability when so few units were sold.
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Because it was never sold retail, any updates will only be made available by and through the carriers not HTC directly. As for ICS, I'd guess it depends how much of the work on the Quattro can be easilly ported to the Jetstream and how willing AT&T is to accept the training and documentation liability when so few units were sold.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Jetstream had a 6 month or so exclusivity agreement with the carriers prior to being able to be launched through any other channels.... Not sure what will change but we shall see.
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Because it was never sold retail, any updates will only be made available by and through the carriers not HTC directly. As for ICS, I'd guess it depends how much of the work on the Quattro can be easilly ported to the Jetstream and how willing AT&T is to accept the training and documentation liability when so few units were sold.
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This concerns me about the Jetstream. I really wish there were a way for the consumer to be protected for some amount of time. I just bought one and I like it pretty well. It's decently fast, but so far I think I like my HTC Flyer better!
At least I have 2 weeks if I want to return it. I'm not happy about all the "bloatware" that's included in the device. I wish there were a way to do an "HTC" only install of Honeycomb without all the AT&T junk.
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At least I have 2 weeks if I want to return it.
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I'd return it. If you're OK with Wi-Fi only, I'd wait a month or two as Asus, Lenovo, and Acer have already announced quad-core tablets the latter two come with 2MB of RAM and 1900x1200 displays. If you want a carrier tablet, I'd get the LTE G-Tab 8.9 that launched today. It's got the same processor as the Jetstream, costs a lot less, has a great dev community, is confirmed to get ICS, has a bunch of available accessories, and will have better resale value if you want to sell it. AT&T's running a promotion starting today that offers a free Skyrocket with purchase. I'm using a UK G-Tab 10.1 3G that I bought after I returned my Jetstream and I like it a lot.
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I'd return it. If you're OK with Wi-Fi only, I'd wait a month or two as Asus, Lenovo, and Acer have already announced quad-core tablets the latter two come with 2MB of RAM and 1900x1200 displays. If you want a carrier tablet, I'd get the LTE G-Tab 8.9 that launched today. It's got the same processor as the Jetstream, costs a lot less, has a great dev community, is confirmed to get ICS, has a bunch of available accessories, and will have better resale value if you want to sell it. AT&T's running a promotion starting today that offers a free Skyrocket with purchase. I'm using a UK G-Tab 10.1 3G that I bought after I returned my Jetstream and I like it a lot.
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The bigggest thing for me, is there aren't other tablets that have the active digitizer. That's really why I got the Jetstream. Sure there are more tablets coming, but I don't think they will be really good until we get Windows 8 and wacom active digitizer, but that's a year away. I need a portable sketching machine for a year. This is the best there is unfortunately. Am I missing something? Is there something better with an active digitizer?
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The bigggest thing for me, is there aren't other tablets that have the active digitizer. That's really why I got the Jetstream. Sure there are more tablets coming, but I don't think they will be really good until we get Windows 8 and wacom active digitizer, but that's a year away. I need a portable sketching machine for a year. This is the best there is unfortunately. Am I missing something? Is there something better with an active digitizer?
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that's what i thought. i really wanted an electronic notebook to help me with my studies.
so i took the jetstream for the same reason.
the built-in apps for pen are pretty worthless.
you would probably use an external app that would also run on any other tablet. you should try playing with a simpler tablet using a stylus pen (there are some generic kinds. with fatter tips, but far cheaper) and see how that works for you.
also, you can check out the lenovo thinkpad.
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/tablet/thinkpad/
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The bigggest thing for me, is there aren't other tablets that have the active digitizer. That's really why I got the Jetstream. Sure there are more tablets coming, but I don't think they will be really good until we get Windows 8 and wacom active digitizer, but that's a year away. I need a portable sketching machine for a year. This is the best there is unfortunately. Am I missing something? Is there something better with an active digitizer?
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The Flyer and Jetstream are the only two tablets even half way decent at pen entry. The Galaxy Note actually has a Wacom digitizer and is excellent for drawing and note taking but I'm guessing it's too small for your needs. ICS is supposed to support pen entry natively but we'll have to see how good it ends up being.
Thanks for the suggestion of the Lenovo thinkpad tablet. I was actually trying to choose between that device and the Jetstream. I chose the Jetstream because I felt like their quality was higher. There have been tons of reports of bad thinkpad tablets.
Galaxy Note was on my list for a new phone, but I think it's too small for what I want. I have some days to return the Jetstream so I will continue to try it out. Also, I noticed there has been a price drop at AT&T to $749 plus a $50 gift card rebate.
I still think maybe AT&T butchered this tablet with sloppy apps and tasks. It's not as fast as it should be. My HTC Flyer seems more responsive.
once we have root and S-OFF, I think this tablet will be the best
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What are your views on purchasing a Flyer at this point in time? I love the form factor, but with almost everything going to dual-core, is it under-spec'd? I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 but now want the nice thin 7" form factor of the Flyer but I am wondering if it is worth the $500 at this point in the game. I know Samsung is releasing a 7.7" Galaxy tab, but that is too similar to what I already have. I tried out the Acer Iconia A100, but the screen on that thing is just atrocious. I haven't seen anything, but is HTC planning on releasing another 7" tablet anytime soon?
Thoughts?
im more than happy with mine, i would buy it again. sure the newer tabs are better spec wise but for what i use mine for the view/flyer still fits my needs perfectly.
i would definitely buy again if i had the choice. It may only be a single core but its more than powerful enough. My Xoom out performs it, but my dual core Evo 3D gets smoked by it on the benchmarks. My Xoom is still my big dog but i find myself using the Flyer more often because of the size and portability. While I cant wait for a working Honeycomb port, this is my everyday tab. Happy with the Flyer
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What are your views on purchasing a Flyer at this point in time? I love the form factor, but with almost everything going to dual-core, is it under-spec'd? I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 but now want the nice thin 7" form factor of the Flyer but I am wondering if it is worth the $500 at this point in the game. I know Samsung is releasing a 7.7" Galaxy tab, but that is too similar to what I already have. I tried out the Acer Iconia A100, but the screen on that thing is just atrocious. I haven't seen anything, but is HTC planning on releasing another 7" tablet anytime soon?
Thoughts?
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Buy it only if you want the pen. The 7" Samsung may be too similar to your 10" Samsung, but that' because they're both Android tablets. In that respect, the Flyer is different only in that it's still running Gingerbread.
I personally think the Flyer is a great tablet, and the only game in town, currently if you want a 7" tablet with decent pen input. If that's what you want then go for the Flyer. Otherwise, the 7" G-tab will likely be cheaper, thinner, lighter and at least as fast. They'll probably both be of similar build quality. The build quality on the Flyer is superb, but then, so it the 10" G-tab.
I just got one w/pen for $420. Only thing I wish is that I got the view instead... White blows.
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White blows.
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You got that right. I couldn't have put it any better.
At this point with the absence of the august promised honeycomb update, i wouldn't recommend flyer for anybody. I'd recommend g-tab 7.7 to people looking for tablets.
But there's this thing about flyers : htc scribe, magic pen. Virtually no competition on the market.
Unless you really want the pen capability, it's better to wait for the Tab 7.7. I also suggest to hold off a while until honeycomb comes to the Flyer. It seems to be a BIG update with much deeper pen integration into the system as paulobrien said that "you can use your pen to do everything you do now with your finger", USB OTG can also arrive. FYI, so far I am happy with my Flyer purchase. It's not the smallest and lightest 7in tablet but it's the best for my purposes.
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At this point with the absence of the august promised honeycomb update, i wouldn't recommend flyer for anybody.
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Is there something significant that works under Honeycomb and doesn't under Gingerbread? I'm a bit peeved that the Time Magazine app crashes constantly, but other than that, so far, it's all been good. (and I figure Time will eventually fix their app.)
I'm not saying 3.2 won't be an improvement, just that having to wait a couple more months to get it on the View/Flyer doesn't seem like a deal breaker to me. The Flyer/View, as it is, right now, works really well.
For the Gtab7.7, you're going to have to wait a few months with nothing in the mean time, and it's going to be HSPA+ only. Heck, have they said it's coming to your country? Looks like it'll be banned from Europe, and wasn't specced (as of now) for the US.
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What are your views on purchasing a Flyer at this point in time? I love the form factor, but with almost everything going to dual-core, is it under-spec'd?
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Start with the intended use, then see if the specs fit it. So, the question is, assuming the Tab7.7 has better specs, will they make a real difference in what you do with the tablet? I'm guessing that for games, probably, at least for a few. For everything else, probably not all that much. Fair chance that both will feel slow as molasses in a year, when the quad core tablets are hitting the market. So, for a year, will it make a real difference? Something to consider...
The bigger question to ask yourself, is why buy a 7" device unless you plan to use it everywhere. And if you plan to use it everywhere, does NOT having fast cellular coverage make sense? It's costing me $45 a month for insurance, 3GB 3G, unlimited 4G service with Sprint, and while I certainly wish it was less, I AM willing to pay for it. If the device is at home, or unconnected, it's just not useful enough for me. I wouldn't buy a WiFi only tablet, in any size. I just wouldn't use it all that much.
Personally, I'm comfortable with the specs on the View. It can open up the Target flash ad from the middle of the store in a reasonable amount of time. Once things got to that point, further improvements weren't that important to me.
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Unless you really want the pen capability, it's better to wait for the Tab 7.7.
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I got my 32GB 3G Flyer on saturday last week, as a replacement for my ageing Samsung Galaxy Tab 7, which I use when travelling for work. I've also got a WiFi Galaxy Tab 10.1, but that's more of a home-based device.
I was planning on waiting for the GT 7.7, but then I read it wasn't going to be available until the end of the year, so the decision to get the 3G Flyer was a no-brainer for me as I didn't want to wait, although I'm pretty certain I'll get a GT 7.7 once they become available.
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I don't know if this is where this goes but I was wondering about the HTC view its not very much and I really want a tablet not a giant one but this one seems nice I just want some user expierences like how good it is or how well it preforms. Also the development is it very supported by devs or easy to root etc. Also if anyone knows of a better tablet within a 300$ limit and I know from sprint this is only like 250$ anyways hope to get some feedback.
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Biggoron said:
I don't know if this is where this goes but I was wondering about the HTC view its not very much and I really want a tablet not a giant one but this one seems nice I just want some user expierences like how good it is or how well it preforms. Also the development is it very supported by devs or easy to root etc. Also if anyone knows of a better tablet within a 300$ limit and I know from sprint this is only like 250$ anyways hope to get some feedback.
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I have had the View since launch, and I can say that it is a great tablet for all your basic internet browsing, book reading, games, and pretty much everything a tablet is intended to do.
The design is a lot better than a lot of the mostly plastic tablets out there. The scribe, while still missing a lot of functionality, has been useful for a few things.
Now, for the money you can get the Acer 7" WiFi only tablet running 3.2 for $200, but as far as a contract goes I think that the View is great.
I got mine for $250 with the scribe and only pay $35 a month (21% discount btw).
Now, as far as development goes, being as it's so different from the Flyer and only available on Sprint there are few View owners that do development, so if you're a flashaholic be prepared to go a long time without any updates, and no vanilla android. I've tried many launchers to make it look like HC without being satisfied.
Take into account these things and see where the View will fit in with your needs/wants. I don't regret the purchase.
Edit: Apparently an official HC release is imminent, so your wait for a completely new update won't be long.
I was actually thinking about the flyer I know for 16g its 299 and runs with a 1.5ghz processor and has official HC (I think) and seems to have a lot of support. I will be using it more as a gaming device I usually do emulators on my phone OC to 1.5ghz and it runs games smooth and does 4400 on quadrant but it does overrun and I know it won't last long if I push it so I wanted to get a higher end device I would be upgrading to the epic touch but no more special pricing is available. And this is only my first year.
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HTC view is the flyer with 3g/4g radios. I love my view but I'm very biased. My dad loves his flyer.
The honeycomb version for our tablet had some show stopping bugs, so they are not releasing super soon btw. Just heard this but im not discouraged. It's being worked on and will be here before long
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contradude said:
HTC view is the flyer with 3g/4g radios. I love my view but I'm very biased. My dad loves his flyer.
The honeycomb version for our tablet had some show stopping bugs, so they are not releasing super soon btw. Just heard this but im not discouraged. It's being worked on and will be here before long
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Man that sucks, but I'd rather it be right than wrong when they release it. If we could get a leaked version of it, regardless of the bugs, I know you could make it plenty stable. With the otterbox out now I'm loving my view more than ever.
theres like 20 threads asking if someone should buy for every device out there, they are really annoying, i say no!
Get one
Best 7" tablet for the price range
I love mine as well. I live out in the middle of nowhere and went with it instead of the flyer, quite by accident. I actually ordered a 32 gig flyer from amazon and the seller immediately emailed me stating it was a view with the pen, screen protectors and a case included so I didn't argue.
The only drawback is the wasteland that is our development and rom community. Apparently those subtle differences in radios are enough to add months to equivalent distributions.
I knew I wanted a 7" tablet. First, I pre-ordered a Kobo Vox, based on spec sheet, and the idea that the specs seemed comparable to my phone, an HTC EVO Shift, also running Gingerbread. Found out that I was wrong.
So, I then knew I wanted a faster, better 7" tablet. But didn't want to pay >$400! Not too many choices that also got good reviews. And, thinking about it, did want 3G/4G--if not tied to a really costly monthly contract--so as to have ubiquitous access. Quickly found that there were few choices from the carriers, and expensive contracts.
Ended up back @ Sprint, my phone carrier. They had the Flyer @ $249, and their cheapest data plan was, under what else I had on my contract with them, $20/month. That was a winner.
I am very pleased so far; it does everything I wanted it to do, and at a quite reasonable cost.
The real difference between the Flyer and the View is where you'll want to use it when away from your home or office WiFi: if bothered by the idea of finding WiFi when out and about, go with the View. If not, go with the Flyer. The hardware and operating system, I think you'll find, do what you want them to do.
Ill always have my epic with me so its a portable wifi hotspot everywhere I go so its equivalent to the view if I get the flyer however I won't have a monthly payment I have decied on the flyer just because the development it has and its universal thank you for all your help in my decision.
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The biggest issue with the choice between flyer and view, currently, is availability. You might luck up on amazon like I did and find a view cheaper than you can get a flyer, without the attached service plans.
Sprint has updated their end of life list... And it now includes the View...
Is this a sign of the death of this tablet as a hole? Flyer is barely sold and the View is EOL...
Or maybe this is pointing to new tablets during the HTC press event coming up...
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All electronics have a limited lifecyle. The problem with the Flyer and View isn't that they reached EOL so soon, but rather that:
1) The tablets were priced too high, and so sales weren't as robust as HTC would have liked
2) HTC was too slow in porting Honeycomb. In fact, the Honeycomb upgrade pretty much coincided with the tablets being discontinued. Contrast that with the ASUS Transformer Prime, that was released only a few weeks ago (and is still scarce) and already has an ICS upgrade.
EOL doesn't mean much to me. Heck, it might even be a good thing it they release the complete source code.
I mean my captivate is not only EOL, it isn't even sold anymore at all... I still have ICS on it the Galaxy Nexus even hit retail.
Biggest tragedy imho is if something happened to my flyer I wouldn't be able to get another one..
I think it has more to do with the fact that sprint is moving to LTE and they will stop selling all wimax products this year. They will only have their wimax networks online until 2015. Maybe that's why they gave me mine for $0.99. And no activation fee.
It only means sprint wont sell or support it any longer.. (No updates, patches, etc..)
For all those who scooped up the 1saleaday deal (in early December or the one last week ). This is why you got a great deal (I got 3 of em). Sprint wanted to dump them before they had to sell them for $100. Even if you use sprint.. this means nothing. It will still work and (I'm pretty sure) you can still activate it.
If you plan to use it as wifi only (like me).. then this means less than nothing.
XDA Devs offer WAY better support and upgrades than any carrier.
Don't worry. My team (CypherTeam) will be working on an ICS port as soon as we get a final HC build finished. The view will live on and as others stated, reaching EOL just means that we'll get the source faster and be able to do whatever we want.
It really doesn't come as a surprise to me that it came so quickly bc the specs on the View/Flyer are not up there with the majority of tablets. That being said, with the source we should be able to get this thing running close to 2ghz with no issues.
I didn't pay $99, I paid $0.99 or 99 cents. I couldn't believe it was that cheap. I had to have a plan to get it that cheap, but I have 6 business lines now, so the 15% discount makes the tablet plan end up being free, and I use it pretty much exclusively wifi anyway.
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I think it has more to do with the fact that sprint is moving to LTE and they will stop selling all wimax products this year. They will only have their wimax networks online until 2015. Maybe that's why they gave me mine for $0.99. And no activation fee.
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Wait what? You got the Evo View for 99 cents??
Is that with a 2 year contract??
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Don't worry. My team (CypherTeam) will be working on an ICS port as soon as we get a final HC build finished. The view will live on and as others stated, reaching EOL just means that we'll get the source faster and be able to do whatever we want.
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Does that mean view hopefully can be used on LTE NET ?
Yea HTC definitely dropped to ball with the pricing of it.
Our tablet is still awesome, single core but comparative in speed to dual core tablets out there in the market.
I'm really happy with my purchase.. now I wish we had more dev interest around for our devices
Yeah they were priced as high as a dual core 10 inch honeycomb tablet yet only had a single core, gingerbread, and a 7 inch screen. Don't get me wrong I prefer the 7 inch size, but not for the same price as a bigger tablet. I mean honestly with its high clock speed and 1 gig of ram, it feels as fast as any dual core tablet and I think it could of been a hit had htc priced it at say $300 at launch.
Imo I think they shouldn't be so quick to give up on them. I think they should update them to ics and sell them new for $200. I guarantee it would be a hit especially over the craptastic kindle fire!
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In all fairness to HTC the tablet out right feels like a 500$ tablet.. which is what made the 300$ price tag so sweet.
My girlfriend ordered one off of ebay just yesterday because her Nook Color just doesn't compare. She uses it too much like a tablet and even after loading CM7 and what not on it, is just tired of constantly fixing issues..
The tablet has a premium feel and if they could make profit at 200$ I would think they would have already priced it at 200$..
The acer A100 is an alternative to the flyer at 250$ and as cheap as 200$.. It sure as hell doesn't feel like the flyer and lacks a lot of the refinement. The problem is now, even at 200$ people would look at the specs and never even try it out before looking down on it.
People are more concerned with specs than actual experiences these days.. (well in the phone world at least.. in the desktop world specs mean a bit more).. It really is sad that because of marketing techniques and the way devices are sold that the flyer gets over looked..
I finally bought my Flyer yesterday. Though there were many choices in the same price range (including iPad 2), I had made up my mind due to the no-nonsense spec.s, solid build & of course, the pen! And I must say, I am thoroughly impressed by this baby..looking forward to being a part of the XDA Flyer community..
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In all fairness to HTC the tablet out right feels like a 500$ tablet.. which is what made the 300$ price tag so sweet.
My girlfriend ordered one off of ebay just yesterday because her Nook Color just doesn't compare. She uses it too much like a tablet and even after loading CM7 and what not on it, is just tired of constantly fixing issues..
The tablet has a premium feel and if they could make profit at 200$ I would think they would have already priced it at 200$..
The acer A100 is an alternative to the flyer at 250$ and as cheap as 200$.. It sure as hell doesn't feel like the flyer and lacks a lot of the refinement. The problem is now, even at 200$ people would look at the specs and never even try it out before looking down on it.
People are more concerned with specs than actual experiences these days.. (well in the phone world at least.. in the desktop world specs mean a bit more).. It really is sad that because of marketing techniques and the way devices are sold that the flyer gets over looked..
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I also started with the nook color as my first tablet.
Quickly sold it though because I got a hell of a deal with the HTC flyer.
I recommend flashing the CM7 ROM directly to the emmc/hard disk on the NC. Don't rely on the microSD card.
I had issues too until I did this.
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So, do you think the Flyer/View is outdated/slow/etc. or a fine, great tablet?
Or even, are you getting a new tablet to work alongside it?
And why?
Personally, I got the Flyer just at the end of August and enjoying using it since day 1. Liked the experience on Gingerbread, but now I realize how much better it is on Honeycomb (and soon it may get better thanks to ROM cookers and Jelly Bean), and I if someone would offer me to get any new tablet that is currently on the market - I certainly wouldn't rush to the nearest tech store, and I'm considering keeping the Flyer for a coming year/year and a half (maybe less, don't know yet). If I am to get a new tablet - it would probably be N7 or some of the medium-end/high-end Acer 10" tablets. Samsung is simply not my choice at all.
If there was any hope of getting ICS or Jellybean on the Flyer/View in the foreseeable future I'd stick with my View, but that doesn't seem too likely. I've got my eye on the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1.
I'm kinda curious about the iPad mini that may be coming out in October. If its good and competitively priced for a 7", I might consider it just for the support and updates. I became fatigued with the anticipation, worry, and letdown that is HTC. I still can't play videos from AOL homepage and the HuffingtonPost website basically freezes my tablet- I had to learn what websites I can and can't use with my View HC. I just want my stuff to work, that's all I ask- especially when all I'm doing is surfing the internet. If apple really listened and shrunk the iPad to a more convenient size, I will reward them with my money. Now, if they would just team up with wacom for the perfect stylus. I initially overlooked apple because it couldn't play flash videos, but now that apparently flash is being phased out and apple products can play most internet videos and content, I'm willing to consider their products again.
The flyer serves my needs but my experience with it will keep me from buying from HTC again
Flyer
Jumped on an Acer A500 on Redtag.com that works fairly well for sub-$200 (refurbed). It's not my daily tool though; the Flyer still rarely leaves my side. But for multi-media/light gaming needs, the A500 is doing nicely. But I won't take a 10" tablet on public transporation in the city; that's asking to become a statistic (IMO).
The 7" is still perfect for ebook reading, keeping up on emails and social networks, and not only is it 3G, I can tether it to my phone for 4G connectivity.
I think and option is missing from the poll; "Getting a new one to work alongside the Flyer."
ya Im thinking of it....I never buy Samsung sh**s...Probably N7 will my next.......Flyer is good...I want to taste JB.....thasts y i'm going to change...
The flyer really suits my needs, small Tab with pen. But Honeycomb is full of issues. And the other problem is, I can't afford to buy every year a US$500 tablet. And even now after HTC "broke" it, the resell prices are also bad for the Flyer.
Well I can't remember ever felt such a disappointment with a company so, I'm going to avoid HTC. Also the people next to me,
In future I'm just going to buy Nexus devices, I think they offered the best customer experience
So HTC you made it, your problem management is "outstanding"! You just don't answer.... coward company.
New tablets may be $400+, but refurbs are around the $200 mark. I laid my hands on a refurbed A500 16GB for less than $200 shipped. The coolest thing about this tablet is the full-sized USB port on the side that pushes enough juice to power a 2.5" SATA drive. It's an older processor, but ICS works nicely.
The bottom line is to get a new tablet you don't need to buy new to get decent performance, nor do you need to buy every year.
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New tablets may be $400+, but refurbs are around the $200 mark. I laid my hands on a refurbed A500 16GB for less than $200 shipped. The coolest thing about this tablet is the full-sized USB port on the side that pushes enough juice to power a 2.5" SATA drive. It's an older processor, but ICS works nicely.
The bottom line is to get a new tablet you don't need to buy new to get decent performance, nor do you need to buy every year.
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How about A510?
They didn't have any A510 at the time, though it's this year's model, so probably not a lot on the refurbed market yet.
I have not been been looking for a new tablet. However, if Google releases a 32gb nexus 7 for $250, i will probably go for it.
PS They might also also be releasing a 4G version at the end of October.
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I have not been been looking for a new tablet. However, if Google releases a 32gb nexus 7 for $250, i will probably go for it.
PS They might also also be releasing a 4G version at the end of October.
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I wanna Nexus 7. Even if it will be without 3G, 4G.
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I'm kinda curious about the iPad mini that may be coming out in October. If its good and competitively priced for a 7", I might consider it just for the support and updates. I became fatigued with the anticipation, worry, and letdown that is HTC. I still can't play videos from AOL homepage and the HuffingtonPost website basically freezes my tablet- I had to learn what websites I can and can't use with my View HC. I just want my stuff to work, that's all I ask- especially when all I'm doing is surfing the internet. If apple really listened and shrunk the iPad to a more convenient size, I will reward them with my money. Now, if they would just team up with wacom for the perfect stylus. I initially overlooked apple because it couldn't play flash videos, but now that apparently flash is being phased out and apple products can play most internet videos and content, I'm willing to consider their products again.
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I do hope you realize Apple never prices anything competitively...
Well my brother has a nexus 7, i tried it and its awesome!!!
But i can do everything i need to do with my flyer. of course flyer can be better, hope for a new update from htc (yeah no ics, but didnt they say they still gonna give support? dunno how , just hoping) or a good custom rom ics/jb.
im not aware of the tablets these days, except for the nexus.
next tablet? dont know. gonna fly till it dies haha.
would be nice if in the future there will be a nexus with pen functions like flyer.
A Nexus with Pen, that's my wish too
Nexus will be great with Galaxy Note 10.1's Pen.
It is better that Magic Pen.
The HTC experiense was bad for me.Being used to the OTA updates on my nexus s.
Already sold the Flyer for 150 euro and bought the Nexus 7. I will surely get the OTA for the next 2 years. No need for rooting,
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Yeah $329 was quite disappointing. No way I can justify it when the wifi only model is that expensive. I'll probably look into the nexus 7. Although, I started using an internet browser app that has given my View 4g hope. It's called Puffin and its pretty fast and plays all the flash I throw at it. Another plus for the View 4g is that I can use the Sprint Zone app and purchase the no contract/commitment data plan- hopefully that's just like prepaid. As for the nexus 7, I was disappointed that it doesn't natively support flash, have a microSD card slot, or have HDMI out. But it's still a great tablet, especially if they sell it for $99 for an 8gb model.
I just bought a galaxy note 2 to replace my galaxy nexus and it looks like it will replace my HTC flyer too. It does have a smaller screen but it is much more friendly and has a few more features that the flyer does not.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/htc-tablets-fade-us-market-firm-keeps-options-open/2012-10-09
Personaly what could of saved them were critical updates.
Nice to hear it
my htc
A somewhat misleading article. HTC only started selling the Flyer for $299.00 when the company dropped the price to move unsold inventory. At that point I believe the tablets sold rather well. I'm pretty sure HTC couldn't sell the Flyer for $299 and turn a profit. And that's pretty much why HTC has to leave the tablet market. Apple is the only manufacturer that can create consumer interest in a premium tablet, and HTC has never been a value hardware manufacturer. I suspect they don't have the resrouces to muster the necessary economies of scale.
I love my Flyer. It's a top notch device and it's carried me this far. But HTC probably needs to concentrate on phones for the time being, and wait for third parties to prove that there's a viable tablet market for non-Apple products.
Htc needs one phone and one tablet and that is all! So far the phone is close.
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HTC's statements capsize the rumors of a new 10" tablet coming anytime soon. But aside from that, there doesn't seem to be any real "news" here. It says they have discontinued tablet sales in the US. Were there any tablets that were still being sold? The Best Buy Flyer was discontinued a long time ago. If the View and Jetstream were still being sold anytime recently, and now being discontinued, it just seems the logical end-of-life for those products. They have been superceded by higher spec devices, and probably haven't been sold in any significant numbers of some time now
5", HTC tablet just announced for Japan market early December release. Quad core. 2GB of ram. Full hd screen. Tiny battery tho. Esp compared to the note 2. The note 2 is honestly what might replace my flyer next. If not then I'll hold out for next ten inch tab with super stylus 2GB ram and all that. But thia HTC phablet supposed to have a 440ppi screen
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5", HTC tablet just announced for Japan market early December release. Quad core. 2GB of ram. Full hd screen. Tiny battery tho. Esp compared to the note 2. The note 2 is honestly what might replace my flyer next. If not then I'll hold out for next ten inch tab with super stylus 2GB ram and all that. But thia HTC phablet supposed to have a 440ppi screen
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That's a phone
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That's a phone
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Some folks are using the word "phablet" for a device that is a big phone, or a small tablet. Some form factors (like the Galaxy Note, and the Dell Streak before it) are starting to blur the lines a bit.
But yeah, the Butterfly J is being touted as a phone, as far as I've read.
I use both a phone (One X) and a tablet (Flyer), and I'd never give up my Flyer for a 5 inch device, or anything much smaller than 7" for that matter. I'd carry a 5" device in my pocket as phone, yes possibly. But for relaxing at home, or on a plane, 7" is likely as small as I'd ever go.
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Some folks are using the word "phablet" for a device that is a big phone, or a small tablet. Some form factors (like the Galaxy Note, and the Dell Streak before it) are starting to blur the lines a bit.
But yeah, the Butterfly J is being touted as a phone, as far as I've read.
I use both a phone (One X) and a tablet (Flyer), and I'd never give up my Flyer for a 5 inch device, or anything much smaller than 7" for that matter. I'd carry a 5" device in my pocket as phone, yes possibly. But for relaxing at home, or on a plane, 7" is likely as small as I'd ever go.
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same here, using from DHD to One X, along with my flyer.
wish the support was better, i mwean i wish there was any support from HTC.
I still think HTC will come with a tablet since they seeing how other companies make money of it they wanna jump on too.
Like HTC didnt think it is neccesary to make a phone bigger than 4,7" (One X) now they com with a 5" phone/phablet?
Same will happen with tablets, dont think they will leave the tablet game.
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same here, using from DHD to One X, along with my flyer.
wish the support was better, i mwean i wish there was any support from HTC.
I still think HTC will come with a tablet since they seeing how other companies make money of it they wanna jump on too.
Like HTC didnt think it is neccesary to make a phone bigger than 4,7" (One X) now they com with a 5" phone/phablet?
Same will happen with tablets, dont think they will leave the tablet game.
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I think it will be same sheat like flyer - only year of support for that tablet and then they will release new one.
found a cheap option to buy HTC flyer - is it worthwhile?
laptopsdirect.co.uk/HTC_Flyer_Tablet_Android_-_16_GB_-_7_Wifi_Only__99HMK053-00/version.asp[/url]
is this still worth buying seeing as it has been discontinued?
is it essential to update to latest Android OS?
thanks
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laptopsdirect.co.uk/HTC_Flyer_Tablet_Android_-_16_GB_-_7_Wifi_Only__99HMK053-00/version.asp[/url]
is this still worth buying seeing as it has been discontinued?
is it essential to update to latest Android OS?
thanks
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I wouldn't buy a wifi-only model. I bought mine because it is also a GSM phone, and that will make me hard-pressed to sell my Flyer. Even though I've since acquired an A500, my Flyer is my day to day tablet because it fits in my back pocket.
If you can find the GSM-unlocked model and the price is right, I'd go for that.
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laptopsdirect.co.uk/HTC_Flyer_Tablet_Android_-_16_GB_-_7_Wifi_Only__99HMK053-00/version.asp[/url]
is this still worth buying seeing as it has been discontinued?
is it essential to update to latest Android OS?
thanks
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I wouldn't, seeing as the hardware is well over a year old, and there are better spec'ed devices at this point. How much is the Nexus 7 in the UK? Google appears to be preparing for an update to the N7, also. The 8 GB version was recently removed from the Play Market, which is presumably in preparation for a new 32 GB version (maybe with other hardware updates?).
I use mine on a day basis, the hardware in my opinion still performs as needed. Unfortunately an official update will not happen beyond Honeycomb, there are how ever some decent custom Roms. My EVO view is overclocked on stock HC, and runs great. I would still say get a newer one just because the value of the new hardware and OS makes the updated models worth buying. My picks for tablet upgrades are Asus transformer infinity/prime (both these models are great.) Nexus 7. Both choices are worth the price IMO.
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"A great learning experience"
Thanks for posting this. Absurd quote from HTC's "global online communications manager":
"It was a great learning experience for us, and they definitely met expectations."
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A "learning experience"? What is this, high school? And whose expectations? Not mine. I had to send my Flyer in four times during the warranty period, the result of bad parts and shoddy workmanship. And after that, HTC refused to replace their faulty tablet. After the warranty expired, the charging jack failed. HTC said they would fix it, for a price. Just before I sent payment, I called to confirm and was told that they didn't have that simple part anymore because the tablet had been discontinued. They then returned my now-HTC Brick, and no one from HTC has ever responded to subsequent emails I have sent.
So no tears over HTC leaving the tablet business. No tears if they go out of business altogether, or if their CEO spontaneously combusts during a public appearance. Over a 2-3 year period, my Asus TF-101 has worked perfectly, but my HTC Flyer's a brick now, thanks to HTC's lack of foresight and lack of concern for their customers - or even for keeping their customers. Pathetic people, pathetic company.
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why is HTC doing this their tablets are AWESOME