So this thread applies to you, if:
1) you belong to AT&T
2) you tether, either with the mobile hotspot app, barnacle, pdanet, etcetc
3) you change the TTL value/hack/hide/tunnel, to hide your tethering usage
Is your method working?
After some time I will release my current method of tethering which allows seems to hide my tethering as my bill has no increased, and after my first letter I have yet to receive any more. However I just want to see if it's just me or if someone has found this method too. NOTE: i'ts not my method but it's one of the less common ways of hiding tethering, also it can be googled.
K go.
VPN???????????
I'm new to this tethering thing.
apparently, my method sucks and I'll be caught.
mobile hotshot, I believe.
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Barnacle with no other hacks. I tethered a bit this month and wasn't caught.
ifalldownalot said:
I'm new to this tethering thing.
apparently, my method sucks and I'll be caught.
mobile hotshot, I believe.
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That's what I've been doing too
Swizzle said:
Barnacle with no other hacks. I tethered a bit this month and wasn't caught.
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Do you know about how much?
I'm keeping an eye on this thread seeing as the moment I got my warning I stopped tethering and have been avoiding it like the plague, often times to my great inconvenience.
I'm curious to know whether there is a safe way to do it.
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Do you know about how much?
I'm keeping an eye on this thread seeing as the moment I got my warning I stopped tethering and have been avoiding it like the plague, often times to my great inconvenience.
I'm curious to know whether there is a safe way to do it.
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same here. Although OP is 20 days old and somewhat trollish, I'm going to create my own thread that will hopefully get better responses.
I have been using Wifi Tether for over a year w/o a warning. Before the Atrix I used it on the Captivate.
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OK so question is, is having a rooted Tbolt and the hotspot rooted .apk really free? I chewed up almost ten gigs last month, but mostly through the phone. Not sure how much was actually tethering. Couldnt have been much. Got netflix running through ps3 via the root hotspot .apk today and destroyed over 800megs in an hours time. I wanted to know, had we have the ability to watch Netflix on our tbolts, would the same show I watched eat up the same amount of data? What are some of your guys data usage over the past month using root hotspot? And any billing issues? Thanks for any input because I don't wanna crush almost another gig til I get some feedback
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I'm just a noob guy.
New here and wanting to make some friends.
These guys fricking rock here.
I see no reply so I just thought I would say hi.
The topic of free hot spot and tether is kind not cool right now.
peace.
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Just came from the x, every one is freaking out about this topic right now.
I didn't even know about that offer.
Leave it to a noob.
Free hotspot and tethering is extended for another month.
Assuming when you're streaming netflix to a PC or your PS3 you're getting HD it would be less when using your phone. I would imagine anyway. The Thunderbolt's screen is 800x480. 720p is 1280x720. SD widescreen would be 854x480 (for 19:9) So, netflix on your phone would only need to be SD. Obviously, that's less data than HD. And if anything, VZW would probably say they suspect you're tethering without paying and tell you to sign up. I doubt they would just add to your bill because they can't say you're not just a heavy data user.
And legitimate WiFi tether is free for another month thanks to the Charge, VZW's second LTE device.
I would assume when using the actuall netflix app on the phone it is designed for a smaller screen so the video feed is less data intensive to save data.
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OK so question is, is having a rooted Tbolt and the hotspot rooted .apk really free?
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The answer is no. Rooting the phone does not change the way the *built-in* hotspot app works. It's Verizon's app and they can see that you're using it. It's free for now because VZW has extended the free trial period, but after that ends you will be charged for using the mobile hotspot app.
However, since your phone is rooted, you can use a *different* wifi tethering app that they can't track.
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The answer is no. Rooting the phone does not change the way the *built-in* hotspot app works. It's Verizon's app and they can see that you're using it. It's free for now because VZW has extended the free trial period, but after that ends you will be charged for using the mobile hotspot app.
However, since your phone is rooted, you can use a *different* wifi tethering app that they can't track.
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That's the one I'm currently using. The "rooted" wifi app. So, fingures crossed!
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i dont know i used a tether app for rooted and an hour later i got a text saying the trial end 6/15... What tether app cant they track?
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i dont know i used a tether app for rooted and an hour later i got a text saying the trial end 6/15... What tether app cant they track?
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Yeah, the text was sent out to almost all TB users today. It has nothing to do with the fact that you used the app.
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Yeah, the text was sent out to almost all TB users today. It has nothing to do with the fact that you used the app.
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Does that mean other tether apps for rooted phones wont be free, or do they work around the charges?
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Does that mean other tether apps for rooted phones wont be free, or do they work around the charges?
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They will still use the workaround. But no one knows yet if VZW will still be able to track.
just download barnacle wifi tether from the market. its totally free and verizon cant track it
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just download barnacle wifi tether from the market. its totally free and verizon cant track it
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It's also not in the market anymore. Or it was taken out at one point.
the promotion expires, but what happens to us who are rooted using wireless tether or barnacle? ive read they were going to add something to prevent/be able to see that. or was that just bologna?
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the promotion expires, but what happens to us who are rooted using wireless tether or barnacle? ive read they were going to add something to prevent/be able to see that. or was that just bologna?
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I am wondering the same thing too.
I mean the app uses data like any other app, I'm fairly certain you'll be able to steal the service. We will know all too soon though. Ha
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i guess we're about to find out. lol.
i they found a way to distinguish the difference between the computer using the Internet vs the phone, we're pretty much ****ed. if it's only an app update to block the apps, then you should be find if you are rooted. like i said, we're going to find out in couple of days.
On the d2 and dx they updated the kernel to block tethering. You can bet any future update for any device on verizon will do the same thing.
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On the d2 and dx they updated the kernel to block tethering. You can bet any future update for any device on verizon will do the same thing.
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hmm, interesting. did somebody find a way around it?
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hmm, interesting. did somebody find a way around it?
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I'm not sure. I got the thunderbolt soon after that happened.
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Unless they push an update, or roll out some network side packet inspection, there's nothing they can do to stop barnacle from working. The end of the promotion is really just a problem for people using the built in Mobile Hotspot program. You'll get a popup the next time you launch it asking if you want to enroll in the tethering plan for $20/month.
Otherwise, continue tethering away via barnacle. Legally verizon cant auto-enroll you into anything, so even if they could detect it, they'd have to get your consent to change the terms of your contract, or just cancel your contract for you.
Wireless Tether still works. I didn't personally like how Barnacle functioned.
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if it's in the kernel that blocks the tethering won't a custom kernel fix that issue?
i am surprised that they somehow figured a way to distinguish between phone data and computer data via tethering...
i don't believe it.
When I was on TMO, I remember people asking the same questions about tethering.
From what I could gather, TMO was able to distinguish data by the agent being used for web browsing. Not exactly sure what or how they did it, but I remember some people saying they got a text from TMO about their data usage.
It's been a while, so I could be wrong, so don't quote me on this.
the browser user-agent won't work because you can still set the user-agent on an android phone to look like chrome or firefox, or another desktop browser...
I'm not sure what verizion did to the DX or D2 but they have the mobile hotspot app built into the settings or notification bar or something so you couldn't even remove it or freeze it.
The TBH patch, which patched the radio, helped to get around this problem. it made it so that even when you're tethering verizon sees [email protected] instead of [email protected] (which is what is used when you switch on the tethering app originally)
PhillyCheez said:
if it's in the kernel that blocks the tethering won't a custom kernel fix that issue?
i am surprised that they somehow figured a way to distinguish between phone data and computer data via tethering...
i don't believe it.
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That's true I didn't think about that. The d2 and dx bootloaders are locked down by efuse so loading a custom kernel in those phones is out of the question.
So yes a custom kernel would fix that
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So no on else read the android police article about how even with wireless tether there is no way for Verizon to tell if you're tethering without major packet snooping.. the kind which would be invasion of privacy. And I'm pretty sure p3droid was spewing **** about the "omg warning Verizon sees you tethering"
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the browser user-agent won't work because you can still set the user-agent on an android phone to look like chrome or firefox, or another desktop browser...
I'm not sure what verizion did to the DX or D2 but they have the mobile hotspot app built into the settings or notification bar or something so you couldn't even remove it or freeze it.
The TBH patch, which patched the radio, helped to get around this problem. it made it so that even when you're tethering verizon sees [email protected] instead of [email protected] (which is what is used when you switch on the tethering app originally)
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That was what people were complaining about. Some had their user agent set on their phone to something other than Android and I guess they got a text message saying they were tethering or something to that affect.
Can I still use pdanet?
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That was what people were complaining about. Some had their user agent set on their phone to something other than Android and I guess they got a text message saying they were tethering or something to that affect.
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When did this happen? At&t can see when an iPhone is tethering, because it sends data in a different way than when normally browsing. This isn't exactly true on android.
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When did this happen? At&t can see when an iPhone is tethering, because it sends data in a different way than when normally browsing. This isn't exactly true on android.
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It was talked about several months back when the G2 came out and people were using the 4G.
Nothing was ever confirmed, it was just what people were saying. It could have been that their usage just showed unusually high?
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It was talked about several months back when the G2 came out and people were using the 4G.
Nothing was ever confirmed, it was just what people were saying. It could have been that their usage just showed unusually high?
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I'm going to go with that and it was just assumed they were tethering and if the data is high enough its not too hard to guess lol but afaik the only way to see tethering on android is through packet snooping
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When did this happen? At&t can see when an iPhone is tethering, because it sends data in a different way than when normally browsing. This isn't exactly true on android.
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The iPhone browser doesn't let you change the user agent string, while many Android browsers (Opera, Dolphin HD, and even Firefox with the phony addon) do.
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/verizon_blocks_hotspot_tethering_for_jailbroken_de.php
Found that article. Is it true?
Anyone out there confirm they are blocked?
Still works for me on CM7.
i just used barnacle on miui and it worked flawlessly
Interesting. I wonder if it only blocks those using roms that are still based on Samsung's code.
Above examples use pure GB code and nothing from Samsung/Verizon.
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Interesting. I wonder if it only blocks those using roms that are still based on Samsung's code.
Above examples use pure GB code and nothing from Samsung/Verizon.
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I tethered from my device (ED05 installed) a few hours ago and it worked fine. However I was using a custom ED05 kernel, they might only be blocking it on Samsung's stock kernels.
There has always been tethering monitoring in the stock kernel. They might just now be doing something about it officially, but how many people are still running the factory software on here?
I think they attempt to block the tethering apps from the market and put things in the kernel
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I wish it said what program she was using, along with how much data she was using.
Maybe it's just Verizon scare tactics. How is changing the ROM on the phone any different than erasing Windows 7 and installing Ubuntu on my computer. I think people will read that and think twice about "jailbreaking" their phones. I'd be surprised to see if anything changes on our phones though.
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nope. no scare tactics here. im blocked. was using WIFI Tether... after 4 hours of reading up on this forum to tether my droid x2 to my Asus Prime, I finally got it working... Only to get pushed to that damn Verizon HotSpot Data Page minutes later. PISSED!
Verizon contract ends in a month. looks like im heading to sprint.
Well yeah your going to get the pushed "Verizon pay a monthly few page" if you try to use tethering through the built in hotspot. Download wifi tether or barnacle wifi tether and it should work on rooted devices. For USB tethering download easy tether and that does not require root. Yes I do believe this is a scare tactic unless for some reason you are using a total ungodly amount of data, then they will throttle your speed or possibly cut it off for the rest of that months Billing cycle. I have never ever had a problem and I don't feel threatened
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I installed it on my LTE Note and just shared my 4G connection with my (recently deactivated) iPhone. My phone isn't rooted and I'm a wifi hotspot!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.foxfi&hl=en&rdid=com.foxfi&rdot=1&pli=1
Did I mention it is currently free today?
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thanks for the heads up, will give it a try...
Works like a champion
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Works like a champion
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I agree!!!!
Built in out works fine though...
Many thank you's to SPtheALIEN.... I didn't know that app existed... How much does it normally cost?
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Friking awesome! Click that Thanks button guys! I will sugest the developer to ad a donate button.
been using foxfi since it came out and it is awesome, as far as I know it has always been free
I wonder if this way is easier for ATT to track or know if you have tethered somehow? I usually just root & freeze the ATT tethering manager which works fine and go through the stock tethering manager.
One of the main reasons id root currently is too tether my device for my PS vita etc on the go. But i wanna stay on the stock Rom for a bit so no reason to root if this works.
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I wonder if this way is easier for ATT to track or know if you have tethered somehow? I usually just root & freeze the ATT tethering manager which works fine and go through the stock tethering manager.
One of the main reasons id root currently is too tether my device for my PS vita etc on the go. But i wanna stay on the stock Rom for a bit so no reason to root if this works.
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I agree. Other than having the ability to back up my saved games (Titanium) and removing bloatware, I am running out of reasons to root.
I do hope that this isn't some conspiracy by AT&T to find out who is tethering because THAT WOULD SUCK.
I'm careful with how much data I transfer using foxfi and so far I have not been warned by [email protected]
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I have a htc inspire phone and a acer a500 tablet. I usa pdanet on the phone to allow me to tether to it from my laptops but doesn't work with the tablet. June Fabrics, pdanet's developer, has come out with a new version that reuires foxfi on the phone and the new pdanet on the tablet. When I click on the pdanet on the tabletnitntells me it work work with bluetooth and to connect using wifi. When I bring up foxfi on the phone and click on the wifi option it tells me the there is a "htc hotspot block" and to use bluetooth mode. Kind of catch 22. Oh well, two more mobile products that don't work!
Good tip
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I installed it on my LTE Note and just shared my 4G connection with my (recently deactivated) iPhone. My phone isn't rooted and I'm a wifi hotspot!
Did I mention it is currently free today?
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Down loaded and installed, works great thanks for your time. First test was connecting my I717 to my lap top how cool.
So as you all know ICS has been out for our phones for quite a while now. The roms themselves run great and seem to work seamlessly except for two major issues I have noticed thus far.....GPS and lack of wireless tether for root users support. For this thread I wish to talk about the 2nd one. Has anyone ran across an ICS build for our phones that support the wireless tether for root users app? The reason why I want to use that is because it supports the AD-HOC function which allows me to keep my current data plan and not add on an additional tethering plan. I know there are other wireless tether apps out there but not all of them support the AD-HOC function. It seems like all Cyanogen based builds will support this function but very few other ROMS/Builds will actually support this. Just curious if anyone out there has ran across this before and seen an ICS ROM that does support this. I cannot be the only one out there who uses this am I?
For anyone who is not sure of what I am talking about, google android wifi tether.
PS-After I purchased a bluetooth standalone GPS device my GPS works fine. I suggest other Vibrant owners out there do the same. I picked mine up on ebay for a little under 30 bucks. For that 30 bucks I get the peace of mind that I can go anywhere and not worry about getting lost or carrying around a whole GPS device and my phone. The thing sits tucked away under my stereo and my gps locks on fast and accurately.
IDK bro but I use barnicle wifi tethering...try that
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There is a tethering option under system settings and wireless, just click More and choose tether..
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There is a tethering option under system settings and wireless, just click More and choose tether..
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Yea but does that work via AD-HOC, I would hate to get charged for tethering because I do not have the plan.