I paid 30.00 for a carrier unlock on my bell atrix. I'm running on rogers right now. I've rooted the phone and applied the webtop HDMI hack. I really want to unlock the bootloader and try a new Rom as I hate the white menus Motorola ruined this phone with. My question is if I will loose my similar unlock by unlocking the bootloader or installing a custom rom? I have no idea where the similar unlock is stored. And stupidly I didn't save a copy of the code one it was similar unlocked. Speaking of which, is there any way to see the unlock code in the phone since its already unlocked.
Thanks in advance.
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Once carrier unlocked, always carrier unlocked
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Unlocking the phone, though done through software, is actually a hardware process. When you run the software for the unlock, a particular fuse is burned out and that is completely irreparable by any kind of software, ROM, SBF or otherwise.
Enjoy your permanently unlocked phone!
Thanks alot guys, I didn't know it was a paermament hardware thing. I guess I'm off to a new adventure.
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Why were they able to root and unlock the boot loader and everything else on the thunderbolt so quickly but yet no one can do it on the atrix?
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Sorry, I don't know.
Because it's not locked or signed?
There's seems to be some discussion regarding it being locked or not. Engadget wrote an article about it being locked but there are a lot of comments from readers with evidence to the contrary.
With it being broken so fast, I believe it wasn't locked or signed.
Um. The phone is not unlocked. In fact the devs were in for a surprise to see the phone has signed bootloader. Signed karnel. Everything is sihned. Which is a furst for htc phone . The only thing they managed to do is root it. And they already did with the atrix. Once you have a signed bootloader and karnel. There is not much you can do.
The article was posted new today or yesterday at engadget. And nothing happened since then.
Its safe to assume all companies right now will use a locked bootloader and karnel. They dont want you to keep your phone. They want you to update.
So basically unless an employee leaks the codes we are s o l.that really sux.
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Android police is reporting that the Bootloader has been unlocked.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/
Exactly and since the bootloader will never be unlocked on the Atrix then its going back next week. Suck it moto!
Right.So like I asked earlier, why were they able to unlock that one and not ours?
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Exactly and since the bootloader will never be unlocked on the Atrix then its going back next week. Suck it moto!
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Yea I'm in the same boat, I might just go back to my captivate in the next week. I really like this phone but I don't feel like much progress is being made. I know there are a few busting ass trying to crack this thing but that doesn't necessaraly mean theyre making progress. Although they did get a copy of that unlocked/deencrypted phone from ken so maybe we'll see something soon.
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most android hackers are on verizon, because they went in with android first. the least amount of android hackers are on at&t. also, they had better resources, they were leaked a beta bootloader that was unlocked, and also a previous ruu image (like sbf but for htc)
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Right.So like I asked earlier, why were they able to unlock that one and not ours?
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I don't know the true reason, but historically, HTC phones are more "open" and "hackable" than Motorola phones (excluding the original Droid). It's just a different company policy more than likely. Is this policy different with the Thunderbolt? I'm not sure...
there is a definitive difference between 'Locked' and 'Encrypted'
I am about to upgrade my phone, and Im eyeing the Play, however, will the bootloader be unlockable(or bypassable) on the Verizon variant? Since I got a DROID2, that's a must have feature. Any help would be thanked greatly.
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xzillerationer said:
I am about to upgrade my phone, and Im eyeing the Play, however, will the bootloader be unlockable(or bypassable) on the Verizon variant? Since I got a DROID2, that's a must have feature. Any help would be thanked greatly.
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Unlock is not possible yet on CDMA Xperia phones. It's currently being investigated, and hopefully solution will come soon
Well, is root and flashing roms similarly to the Droid2/X/X2 possible?
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Nothing of the sort is possible but everything is being worked on.. We are all waiting.
Yes. Its possible. The difference will just be whether we find people willing to do the work. If all dev work stopped now, the process would go like this: wait for new root exploit, root phone, use second init process to boot cm7.... Just like the d2 and dx
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http://androidflip.com/root-sony-xperia-play/
fastboot drivers work on R800x, but unlocking bootloader on verizon is not possible yet.. Even SE cant help, i call shannanagins on you VW!!
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http://androidflip.com/root-sony-xperia-play/
fastboot drivers work on R800x, but unlocking bootloader on verizon is not possible yet.. Even SE cant help, i call shannanagins on you VW!!
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People are trying to work on getting the bootloader unlocked, despite SonyEricsson not willing to give any help to the CDMA variant folks (R800x). The document you pointed gives pretty much the universal variant of how to unlock and root for all of the R800 series _EXCEPT R800x_ (which is what Verizon carries). Since you can't unlock the bootloader, you can't currently flash a new/different ROM.
So for now, people are working on it, albeit slowly. Don't expect a unlock/root method in the next day, but it will happen eventually. I know I'm eagerly awaiting it.
I'll work on that too when I get the phone.
I believe Verizon's phones aren't unlockable because Verizon wants total SW control over device.
I'm patiently waiting as well.
I am returning my old atrix to at&t after they sent me a new one and i need it returned to stock from gingerbreak 4.5. any help would be awesome. i don't want at&t to charge me like crazy cause it was rooted
people have been returning theres unlocked so i dont think that is a problem,
if you are worried flash an SBF using RSD light and you will be perfectly back to stock
Search for MSU, short for Motorola Software Updater. Much kinder than RSD which can result in bricks. MSU can even relock the bootloader
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I'm considering sending in my unlocked bootloader atrix in as it has the ghost finger on the letter q issue that seems to be getting more common now.
Since I live in NZ and bought this phone off the marketplace here, does anyone know how easy this would be?
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Search for MSU, short for Motorola Software Updater. Much kinder than RSD which can result in bricks. MSU can even relock the bootloader
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No it cannot. It only removes the 'unlocked' text. Once unlocked the bootloader CANNOT BE RELOCKED!!!!!! *facepalm*
Yep, unlocking burns a fuse in the phone. Once it's burnt, the phone is unlocked unless you want to open it up and get a bit crazy.
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No it cannot. It only removes the 'unlocked' text. Once unlocked the bootloader CANNOT BE RELOCKED!!!!!! *facepalm*
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+1 This
You can only "mask" the unlocked message, but that's still better than nothing...
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Right here is the issue. I've changed this thread twice now to keep the clutter away. Seeing I can't unlock my bootloader due to it being a 3 mobile bootloader (If I can please help me out as im struggling to find info) I can't flash CM9? Or even 10 for that matter? This is really frustrating me, I don't have a clue what to do, a lot of the information on bootloaders like mine is very bare and slim and not really helping me or anyone else in my position out very much. I can't root either which is as big a ***** as the bootloader situation....can someone point me in the right direction or just plain tell me nothing that I want is possible?
Further more, roms don't contain bootloaders do they? It's the phone itself? However, saying this, it is possible to flash bootloaders on the motorola defy....would the case not be the same here?
If your bootloader is unlockable then you can not flash custom roms, ie cm9 or cm10.
However you can flash stock roms via flashtool and you can root with a locked bootloader, there are a couple of threads which tell you how to root, here's one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
keewanchoapsss said:
Right here is the issue. I've changed this thread twice now to keep the clutter away. Seeing I can't unlock my bootloader due to it being a 3 mobile bootloader (If I can please help me out as im struggling to find info) I can't flash CM9? Or even 10 for that matter? This is really frustrating me, I don't have a clue what to do, a lot of the information on bootloaders like mine is very bare and slim and not really helping me or anyone else in my position out very much. I can't root either which is as big a ***** as the bootloader situation....can someone point me in the right direction or just plain tell me nothing that I want is possible?
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I am also with Three and have a locked BL, but using the guides found in these forums I managed to Root my device and even install MIUI yesterday, but MIUI is not great in my personal opinion so I reverted back to ICS.
There are not many ROMs out there for those of us with Locked BL's and until they find a way to get passed the BL or make more ROMs for us, we are limited to Stock ROMs and as far as I am aware not many of those exist besides MIUI.
Cheers lads! I'm just wondering now if we could take a leaf out of the Motorola Defy's development books. As I said, even with a locked bootloader they were using cm9 and even cm10 now! Unstable due to the old kernels, but still, managed it
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Cheers lads! I'm just wondering now if we could take a leaf out of the Motorola Defy's development books. As I said, even with a locked bootloader they were using cm9 and even cm10 now! Unstable due to the old kernels, but still, managed it
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All we can do is hope my friend, seems Sony were slow in every regard to develop for this phone and that in turn has limited the progress of external developers, I mean just look at the amount of time it has taken Sony to get ICS out to us and that has impacted others in development.
We are now seeing the FreeXperia Project rolling out builds, though they remain solely for Unlocked BL's, MIUI is a step in the right direction for us, so I see no reason why others for Locked BL's will not appear in due course. Patience is the game when it comes to the Xperia S.
By the way, I have read from a few people that getting the SIM Lock removed does in some instances lead to BL Unlocking ability, I contacted Three and they told me the charge for unlocking the SIM from them via a code is £15 and I believe it gets applied to your bill as a one off fee if you want to try it and see in the service menu if your BL after a reboot shows the ability to be unlocked.
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All we can do is hope my friend, seems Sony were slow in every regard to develop for this phone and that in turn has limited the progress of external developers, I mean just look at the amount of time it has taken Sony to get ICS out to us and that has impacted others in development.
We are now seeing the FreeXperia Project rolling out builds, though they remain solely for Unlocked BL's, MIUI is a step in the right direction for us, so I see no reason why others for Locked BL's will not appear in due course. Patience is the game when it comes to the Xperia S.
By the way, I have read from a few people that getting the SIM Lock removed does in some instances lead to BL Unlocking ability, I contacted Three and they told me the charge for unlocking the SIM from them via a code is £15 and I believe it gets applied to your bill as a one off fee if you want to try it and see in the service menu if your BL after a reboot shows the ability to be unlocked.
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I'm with 3 as well and the first thing I did was to have my xperia s sim unlocked.
This did not unlock the bootloader as I was hoping
Having said that I was able to root the thing using the tutorials in these forums, so I'm pretty happy
Have to say the stock ROM looks quite good and I'd try some other ROMs just for the sake of it
I would try and sim unlock the phone if my bill wasnt horrendous already, they charged me for twitter sending texts to me haha! So sad. But back to the topic, I was just floating around the Motorola Defy forum again and they somehow extracted the bootloader seperately to try and unlock it! I really hope someone looks in to this would be so helpful if someone could extract their own, unlocked BL and we could flash it! ;o
I maybe barking up the wrong tree here but when i had my X10 and was in associated forum. The bootloader was locked and root was difficult.
Some of the devs were in contact with Sony to try and come to some compromise on the security. ( hence un-branded phones now having unlocked boot loaders)
The trouble is...
On branded handsets the bootloaders contain certain information that your network providers don't want you to have access to.
The devs are aware of this and respectively leave the bootloader compromising alone.
This is not saying it can't be done, just saying that out of respect for sony allowing some phones to have unlocked bootloaders those that are locked are being treated to the respect sony asked for.
Of course not all devs worldwide are so respectful so it will be compromised and indeed has been but currently only for sim unlocking.
Of course this post may just be a crock-o-crap and people may already working on workarounds.???
I would guess that for bootloader unlocking your best bet would be a phone unlocking solution like setool or ezsemc but these are not going to be free options and currently not available on the XPS
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Why i did'nt see anyone flashing the relock bootloader on a locked one. My common sense tells me that it might go from allowed=no to allowed=yes.
And you dont need fastboot access to flash it only flashmode and is tft file, just wondering..
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Why i did'nt see anyone flashing the relock bootloader on a locked one. My common sense tells me that it might go from allowed=no to allowed=yes.
And you dont need fastboot access to flash it only flashmode and is tft file, just wondering..
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It just won't let you flash.
K900 said:
It just won't let you flash.
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Even if you have root?
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Even if you have root?
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Yes.
Contact jinx13 he can unlock bootloader for you I am sure, I am on three UK with unlocked boot , phone was unlocked and I am sure jinx13 can do it with setool
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Is that a cost free service from him though?
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keewanchoapsss said:
Is that a cost free service from him though?
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Cost he does it remotely
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Cost he does it remotely
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Okay mate. Thanks a bunch. I'll get in contact with him and see what he has to offer.
Caveat Emptor: I did use the search feature and did some reading, but still am confused.
I have a Sprint Motorola Photon 4G, still running 2.3.4.
To date, it is my understanding that unlocking my bootloader still kills Wimax 4G. From what I've found, all barriers seem to exist with devices running 2.3.5.
I'm still running 2.3.4. Would I still lose Wimax 4G if I unlock my bootloader?
Would it be possible to unlock my bootloader, flash a ROM, then relock my bootloader and keep 4G?
(I may have asked this awhile back somewhere, but I used to work overnights and memory gets fuzzy of online activities from that time)
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Caveat Emptor: I did use the search feature and did some reading, but still am confused.
I have a Sprint Motorola Photon 4G, still running 2.3.4.
To date, it is my understanding that unlocking my bootloader still kills Wimax 4G. From what I've found, all barriers seem to exist with devices running 2.3.5.
I'm still running 2.3.4. Would I still lose Wimax 4G if I unlock my bootloader?
Would it be possible to unlock my bootloader, flash a ROM, then relock my bootloader and keep 4G?
(I may have asked this awhile back somewhere, but I used to work overnights and memory gets fuzzy of online activities from that time)
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Unlocking kills wimax. To keep 4g, you'd need to keep a rom based on stock with a stock kernel with a locked bootloader. Even then there are instances that'll kill wimax, like flashing a bootstrapped rom while staying locked. Bottom line is don't unlock bootloader if you want to keep wimax.
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Fun fact, as of yesterday this thread is illegal.
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Fun fact, as of yesterday this thread is illegal.
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Unlocked boot loaders are not illegal. Changing carriers by unlocking the programming its illegal. Such as AT&T changed to T-Mobile.
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Fun fact, as of yesterday this thread is illegal.
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Please modify this post. This is utterly untrue. Having information like this out there just spreads fear, should some unknowing individual come and read it and get the wrong impression.
Well, legal or illegal, Motorola appears to have made any discussion of criminal law a moot (sp?) point.
I need wimax and Moto says if I want to unlock any bootloaders I can haz no 4g, so no unlocking to be done. Thanks for simplifying this!
Unlocking the bootloader is not illegal. Unlocking the carrier lock without the carrier's permission is, but only on subsidized phones sold after 1/26/2013.
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