Links are at the bottom of post better showing the fix and before/after photos
After using my Amaze for some time and taking a lot of pictures, I've been noticing that in low light situations, one side of the image was really washed out due to the flash and unaffected on the other side.
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^Notice it's washed out on the right
I wanted to replicate in a more controlled environment. After a lot of different tests, the best way I found to test this was to use a small piece of black electrical tape and put it directly over the camera sensor and take a photo with the flash on. This is what it saw. Notice the huge amount of light being let in from the flash, much like the above image.
With the flash off, the image was completely black.
To fix this (hopefully permanently) I used a thin strip of electrical tape and carefully pressed it down between the image sensor and flash. It appears that the plastic that separates the areas is semi-transparent and it lets light directly into the sensor making the images washed out. After adding the extra strip, I took another picture with tape over the lens and flash on. It appears to have blocked almost all light directly coming from the flash.
Is anyone else having this issue? Can you replicate? Does this help? Honestly I hope it was just my phone.
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Pic of how I repaired is in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19895665&postcount=16
Pics of what images looked like before and after fix, thanks to frodoboy can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20919432&postcount=61
thephunk said:
After using my Amaze for some time and taking a lot of pictures, I've been noticing that in low light situations, one side of the image was really washed out due to the flash and unaffected on the other side.
^Notice it's washed out on the right
I wanted to replicate in a more controlled environment. After a lot of different tests, the best way I found to test this was to use a small piece of black electrical tape and put it directly over the camera sensor and take a photo with the flash on. This is what it saw. Notice the huge amount of light being let in from the flash, much like the above image.
With the flash off, the image was completely black.
To fix this (hopefully permanently) I used a thin strip of electrical tape and carefully pressed it down between the image sensor and flash. It appears that the plastic that separates the areas is semi-transparent and it lets light directly into the sensor making the images washed out. After adding the extra strip, I took another picture with tape over the lens and flash on. It appears to have blocked almost all light directly coming from the flash.
Is anyone else having this issue? Can you replicate? Does this help? Honestly I hope it was just my phone.
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I used to have this issue with my Galaxy S II and then I quickly realized that it was the way I was holding the phone while taking a picture. The light from the flash would bounce off of my fingers and cause that issue. So I realized that if I place my hand a little lower while taking pics with flash on my pics came out crisp. Maybe its the same issue you're having.
Try lowering your hand a great deal away from the flash and see if it helps.
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Is your fast boot disabled? I disabled it to get into hboot and forgot to turn it back on. Caused the exact same issue, I was freaking to say the least and of course the flash issue went away once it was enabled.
Good luck!
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It is a ghost... Nothing else to it.
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Fastboot is disabled. It's one of the first things I do when I get a new HTC device.
My fingers were also no where near the optics. If they were the washed out area would be on the opposite side (as my 3 year old has been able to show me in her photo taking abilities). Plus, I would not have between able to replicate with the electrical tape covering the sensor and fix it by better shielding the flash.
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It is a ghost... Nothing else to it.
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As for the ghost...funny you should say, the first photo was taken at the Story Inn. Supposedly a very haunted place.
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Lol, actually that is quite ironic. It just reminded me of a few photos that I've seen on ghost documentaries.
On a different note, is there dust under the glass?
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Lol, actually that is quite ironic. It just reminded me of a few photos that I've seen on ghost documentaries.
On a different note, is there dust under the glass?
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I didn't think of that. I don't see any dust, however it doesn't mean that there isn't. Calling TM now to get a replacement sent to me to see if it was just this handset.
Thank you.
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Fastboot is disabled. It's one of the first things I do when I get a new HTC device.
My fingers were also no where near the optics. If they were the washed out area would be on the opposite side (as my 3 year old has been able to show me in her photo taking abilities). Plus, I would not have between able to replicate with the electrical tape covering the sensor and fix it by better shielding the flash.
As for the ghost...funny you should say, the first photo was taken at the Story Inn. Supposedly a very haunted place.
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Off-topic here, sorry. I didn't even noticed that the picture was of the Story Inn. I live about an hour south of there and have been up there a number of times.
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Off-topic here, sorry. I didn't even noticed that the picture was of the Story Inn. I live about an hour south of there and have been up there a number of times.
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Staying off topic, took my wife there for or anniversary and it was awesome. For once my phone didn't ring because there was no service. We live about an hour and a half north from Story. It was my first visit.
Back on topic, I think it is a flaw with the lens. My new one should be on it's way.
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Staying off topic, took my wife there for or anniversary and it was awesome. For once my phone didn't ring because there was no service. We live about an hour and a half north from Story. It was my first visit.
Back on topic, I think it is a flaw with the lens. My new one should be on it's way.
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There are some pics posted on this forum do you see the same issue on theirs?
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There are some pics posted on this forum do you see the same issue on theirs?
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No, I didn't see the same issue from that thread. There aren't a lot of low light shots that rely on the flash either.
im having the same issue with the camera flash. did you get your new one? does it have the same flash issue?
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im having the same issue with the camera flash. did you get your new one? does it have the same flash issue?
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Got the new one, same issue. I just used my electrical tape fix again and didn't bother trying anymore.
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Same thing here.
Can you describe exactly where and how much tape you put to fix ?
Also what does Hboot have to do with the camera quality ?
yes, pics about the tape fix please.. im waiting for my replacement because this unit i have right now has a dead pixel. my new one should be here tommorow
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xManMythLegend said:
Same thing here.
Can you describe exactly where and how much tape you put to fix ?
Also what does Hboot have to do with the camera quality ?
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It appears that the plastic the flash is housed in is semi transparent. From here the light can go straight into a small area of the glass that protects the camera. I added a small piece of electrical tape from the edge of the flash, down the incline using the back of an exacto blade. Pic below of the finished product. Not pretty but very effective.
thanks! going to try this when i get home from work or ill just wait for my new one.
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btw, hows the picture after this fix?
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Thanks.
Had the same flash bleed...this reduced it by 80% or so. I have old yucky electric tape so took me two slices and some patience.
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btw, hows the picture after this fix?
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Almost no bleed, the image before and after the tape fix is in the first post. I purchased new tape when I did this for maximum sicknesses. It took me like 7 times to cut the right size and get it down just right. You can test by adding another piece of tape over the camera and take a picture.
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If you are viewing this thread, hopefully you haven't bought the Evo 3d just yet or are still within your 30 days. I just wanted to share my experiences with the Evo 3D to help others avoid the headaches I have had with a few visual defects on some Evo 3d's and also an operational defect. I would recommend inspecting the phone for these things before you leave or before you'll be outside your 30 days and offered a refurb. I made the mistake of not looking things over at the store, and it took me 2 replacements to finally get a phone that didn't have these defects.
Please Note: I'm a very picky person, so I always check my new phones for defects and eye sores before I get to the point where I am unable to resolve the issue within 30 days. Some of the things that I have an issue with may not be a big deal for others. Many people are happy with their phone even with a minor defect, but I feel if it's brand new it should be the same quality as a brand new phone.
If your opinion differs on what matters and what doesn't, don't bother trying to debate. The purpose for this post is to help others spot minor defects that may be an eye sore for them personally.
Pin Hole Size White Dot near Capacitive Buttons
-While this may not be a big deal to some, I found it a rather annoying eye sore while using your phone in a dark room or when your bottom buttons are lit up.
-This shouldn't be too hard to spot, just make sure that your buttons are lit up. Usually you will have to cover the sensor along the top of the phone if you are not in a dark room to get the buttons to light up. See picture below for example.
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-Once again just a minor defect that is common on LCD screens, but if you are watching a movie it can become rather noticeable.
-The easiest way I found to check for this is to install "Dead Pixel Test" from the market. This app will go through several solid color screens which will help you spot a dead pixel if there are any.
Power/Sleep Button Activates with a Minor Touch
-Could be a possible issue if the phone is in your pocked and button is activated, your phone may turn off and you wouldn't even know it.
-The button should have somewhat of a click to it when your press it. Try gently putting your finger on the button without much pressure, and see if the screen turns on/off.
Dust Particles Under Screen or Glass Covering Camera's
-May cause pictures to appear fuzzy if you have dust under the glass, and well the screen that's self explanatory.
-Could be difficult to spot, just look from multiple angles to spot any dust.
Red Trim That Surrounds Camera Glass is Lose [Reported by: mayfield103]
-Only have seen this mentioned a few times, but could be a big eyesore if it comes out. I would guess that this issue stems from the rear cover on the phone not being taken off carefully but check anyways.
3D/2D Toggle Button is Wobbly or Lose (Fairly Common Issue) [Reported by:dirkyd3rk and a few others]
-This is more so just annoying when the phone vibrates so does the button itself. Could be a problem in the future though if the button actually pops off from being slid back and forth a number of times.
-Easiest way to check for this would be to just slide the toggle, if it has give before fully locking into 3D or 2D then the button is probably faulty. You may get weird looks for this but if you shake the phone you can also hear it as well.
Screen is Slightly Tilted to Either Side [Reported by: DeMiNeO]
-"It's almost unnoticable if your not looking at it, but then drives you mad once you find it".
The Infamous "Light Bleed" Along Bottom and Slightly Up Sides of the Screen
-This has been reported and debated by quite a few people. Some say its light bleed, while others say the Capacitive buttons are just too bright. This just appears as a slight glow between the side of the screen and the frame of the phone along the bottom. Those who had the OG Evo know exactly what this looks like.
-If you have access to a decently dark room this shouldn't be hard to spot, wake the screen and look along the bottom edge of the screen.
Picture borrowed from: itsallsubliminal
-"You can see if it effects you easily by looking at the upper right corner of your phone. If it looks tilted, you have the issue".
These issues seem to be isolated, so don't let this sway you from buying the phone. I am very satisfied with my phone I just wanted to provide a thread for such issues.
Hopefully this will help some people out and prevent multiple trips to the Sprint store for a replacement. As I said before, some may not care about these issues but if you notice the little things I would recommend checking for these defects. If I missed something else just post the issue and I will edit the OP.
Excellent tips thank you. I'm very picky also. I'm getting mine July 4th.
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Excellent tips thank you. I'm very picky also. I'm getting mine July 4th.
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No problem, most of these have been posted already in different places but just figured one thread would be a little easier to find instead of doing all the digging.
Only thing I noticed on mine is that dot u pointed out its a cosmetic thing not a defect more like a ant tit of a spot can't see it unless u rape your phone with your eyeball other that my phone zero issues no problem with pixles or leakinglight which people claim they have its not leaking just bright ass buttons .
2d3d button wobble slightly no issue no yellow tint either . I'm not picky unless you get white spots like the EVO had 2 months into the brandnew phone that sucks .
ITT: Why OCD people will get their phones replaced
Awesome! Thanks for posting. Also another thing I have noticed is a minuscule but noticeable small silver chip off the paint on the rim surrounding one of the dual lenses at the back. A couple of phones had it, MAKE SURE YOU verify that yours doesn't have it.
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Awesome! Thanks for posting. Also another thing I have noticed is a minuscule but noticeable small silver chip off the paint on the rim surrounding one of the dual lenses at the back. A couple of phones had it, MAKE SURE YOU verify that yours doesn't have it.
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Yea, i got that man. Boy was i mad when i got home because i changed out the original 3D i was going to get because the top of the screen had a bump and the battery cover had some kind of stuff stuck on it. I thought i checked it over good but to my suprise, low and behold that scratch on the rim of the camera lenses a couple hours later when i checked again.
OCD FTL.
The red ring around the camera on the battery door is Coming loose on mine I contacted HTC about a new battery cover they said to call back in a week because they didn't have any replacement parts yet.
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I have a stuck pixel (green) at the top left of the screen.
Sent via Evo 3D...mmmmm dual core.
Here I come with the wobbly 2d/3d button LOL. It's going to kill me if I don't return it before this week is up. Multiple people said they have it; I'm wondering if some users button is snug!
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Don't forget light bleed. Both of mine have it, one worse than the other.
Swyped from my Atari 2600 3D
dirkyd3rk said:
Here I come with the wobbly 2d/3d button LOL. It's going to kill me if I don't return it before this week is up. Multiple people said they have it; I'm wondering if some users button is snug!
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If I shake the phone I can here it kinda rattle. Lol, that hasn't bothered me, but I hear what you're saying. I've had some data gripes, but over all...AWESOME device!!
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If I shake the phone I can here it kinda rattle. Lol, that hasn't bothered me, but I hear what you're saying. I've had some data gripes, but over all...AWESOME device!!
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You confirming that makes me feel a lot better; I've only seen 2 comments about it from another user and myself.
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If I shake the phone I can here it kinda rattle. Lol, that hasn't bothered me, but I hear what you're saying. I've had some data gripes, but over all...AWESOME device!!
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Mine rattles when I shake it as well. I'm pretty sure my data issues are because of my house. I roam when I'm inside my house sometimes.
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Mine Doesn't rattle.
Check to make sure your screen isn't tilted either.
I've seen where some people's screens (And the Sprint Demo evo3d) had the screen tilted to the right a TINY TINY bit. It's almost unnoticable if your not looking at it, but then drives you mad once you find it. You can see if it effects you easily by looking at the upper right corner of your phone. If it looks tilted, you have the issue.
reaper24 said:
I'm not picky unless you get white spots like the EVO had 2 months into the brandnew phone that sucks .
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I hear you there, My OG EVO had the white splotch of doom too. It appeared in the lower center of the screen. I didnt know it was a well known defect until 8 months later, or that you could switch it out under the mfg warranty. So this is a good thread to have.
The kind guys at my radioshack swapped my evo 3d that had dirt under the screen in a few places. they didnt even look at me weird. They seemed to understand that I didnt want to look at that for at least one (possibly 2 years).
I Have light bleed when my captive buttons are not lit but my back light is on... my search button still glows from the leak... bothers me late at night when i am in my bed... "researching"
its a good thing you posted this, once I read it I began looking for these little flaws and found a dead pixel. Sprint is overnighting me a new one. Thanks
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Yea I have light leaking through too
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My EVO 4g had a couple of dead pixels, it was only noticeable when the screen was black. I dealt with it. I didn't want to go through the unrooting and rooting process again or worse...end up with a crappy refurb.
Until I get a flawless 3V0. ( I don't care about light leak)
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I think your >. key on your keyboard got stuck
I love this phone but every single one I've had has had issues. Just received my new one today. It's better then the rest
Do what you got to do. I'm on my 3rd 3vo now.
No one cares. Should I wear a red shirt tomm, or my new white one? No one cares
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Cool story bro. I heard Samsung is coming out with a new phone for Sprint, you should try it out.
On my third. The first was for light leakage and a yellow tint. The second had leakage as well, so I figured I would live with it, but that one had a power button that wasn't responsive without pushing it down really hard.
This one has light leakage but everything else is fine. I'll live with it.
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Who ever says no one cares, then don't click the thread and don't post? mkay?
Anyways, yeah. The new one i got is pretty much perfect, we'll see.
I would take an HTC phone, over a samdong phone any day. I actually like quality
You collecting boxes? Aren't you supposed to return the boxes too? You could sell them on Ebay:
Brand new Evo 3D box
Only $149.
Mike
Anyone tried taking theirs back for the crooked screen? If so, did they replace it? Thinking about trying. Sometimes I don't really notice it, but there are sometimes when it really seems to show out more than others.
On your new one look closely for dirt under the screen..I'm sure you will find a spec some where.Then you can return it again.
And I'm sure no one would have noticed the crooked screens if it weren't for that thread...I feel like I'm the only person in the world who actually returned their phone for an actual defect that caused
the phone to not operate as intended.
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Well I was on my way to get my 6th one, and yeah all them had issues, and since I got it on launch day this was my last shot, but I have had enough. Mmm what to do? Talked to the manger and they will extend my return policy so that I can get the photon. I have to say that sprints customers service was top notch. PS. I really wanted to like this phone
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BrianBaker said:
On your new one look closely for dirt under the screen..I'm sure you will find a spec some where.Then you can return it again.
And I'm sure no one would have noticed the crooked screens if it weren't for that thread...I feel like I'm the only person in the world who actually returned their phone for an actual defect that caused
the phone to not operate as intended.
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Your so much better than everyone else. You probably are the only legit person here. I paid full price for this phone. My laptop doesn't have a crooked screen and it cost less than this phone. Sorry for expecting my $550 phone to have a straight screen. Plus, FYI, I noticed the crooked screen without ever reading one thing on here about it. In fact, I had no idea anyone else had noticed it until I came here to post about mine and saw the thread! Imagine that! You are wrong about something!
Yeah,imagine that....Well maybe if someone had 6 issues with 6 different phones then maybe that person should look for a different product..If i had to get something replaced that many times I can tell you that product/company would not get my business...If you've replaced a product that many times you're never going to be happy.Save yourself the headache in searching for the perfect phone and just give it up and move on.
<side note> If i paid full price sure i'd be a bit more picky,but 6 times? Does the company even deserve your hard earned money at that point?
housry23 said:
Anyone tried taking theirs back for the crooked screen? If so, did they replace it? Thinking about trying. Sometimes I don't really notice it, but there are sometimes when it really seems to show out more than others.
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Yes, they should. Can't imagine you'd get any flack unless you get a turd of a store. Only returned mine once: for the crooked screen. New one is perfect. Local Sprint store even let me sit down in their repair room and open and check out the brand new one before they even activated it. I confirmed the screen was straight, used the camera and gallery to search for dead pixels and then when I was satisfied, they swapped them and activated the new one. Great service!
P.S. Manager at that store commented that my screen was pretty bad. His was slightly crooked too and he said he was going to swap his out later but we both said the one I exchanged was twice as bad! Drag the notification bar down and the left edge of the notification bar on the bottom was actually underneath the blackout it was so crooked! It's only half to 3/4 of a millimeter but that's easily noticeable and since the digitizer (top glass panel) is straight and the LCD panel underneath is crooked, it can actually throw off the touch response. Straight digitizer + crooked screen = some keys on keyboard (and buttons in some apps) don't align properly and you end up pressing the wrong thing sometimes.
Mike
BrianBaker said:
Yeah,imagine that....Well maybe if someone had 6 issues with 6 different phones then maybe that person should look for a different product..If i had to get something replaced that many times I can tell you that product/company would not get my business...If you've replaced a product that many times you're never going to be happy.Save yourself the headache in searching for the perfect phone and just give it up and move on.
<side note> If i paid full price sure i'd be a bit more picky,but 6 times? Does the company even deserve your hard earned money at that point?
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I definitely agree with you on that point. I haven't taken my phone back yet because of the slightly crooked screen, but am thinking about it. It doesn't affect the function of the phone one bit, but it is a bit annoying when I see it. Like I said before it is not always noticeable, but there are certain times it is.
Some people are never satisfied and that's just the way it is.
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Yes, they should. Can't imagine you'd get any flack unless you get a turd of a store. Only returned mine once: for the crooked screen. New one is perfect. Local Sprint store even let me sit down in their repair room and open and check out the brand new one before they even activated it. I confirmed the screen was straight, used the camera and gallery to search for dead pixels and then when I was satisfied, they swapped them and activated the new one. Great service!
P.S. Manager at that store commented that my screen was pretty bad. His was slightly crooked too and he said he was going to swap his out later but we both said the one I exchanged was twice as bad! Drag the notification bar down and the left edge of the notification bar on the bottom was actually underneath the blackout it was so crooked! It's only half to 3/4 of a millimeter but that's easily noticeable and since the digitizer (top glass panel) is straight and the LCD panel underneath is crooked, it can actually throw off the touch response. Straight digitizer + crooked screen = some keys on keyboard (and buttons in some apps) don't align properly and you end up pressing the wrong thing sometimes.
Mike
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Yeah I can barely hit the p on mine. It is very difficult to type certain letters.
Edit: You convinced me to try. Going to go now. Thanks for your feedback.
I'm on my fourth e3d ..this is the first time I've ever had to exchange a phone for any reason..first one had a bad 3g radio..2nd had a blown earpiece 3rd wasn't to bad but still had bad reception and the rep actually wanted me to exchange it..all I wanted was to test it..just got this one and so far so good..usually I wouldnt stick with a product that had issues like this but I.just love HTC..I played with my nieces captivate and I couldn't stand the UI..no pinch.to zoom on photos and it just was difficult to navigate..and she's still on 2.1 update 1 ..I thought those phone had froyo already
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I definitely agree with you on that point. I haven't taken my phone back yet because of the slightly crooked screen, but am thinking about it. It doesn't affect the function of the phone one bit, but it is a bit annoying when I see it. Like I said before it is not always noticeable, but there are certain times it is.
Some people are never satisfied and that's just the way it is.
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If your screen is crooked and you noticed it with out the thread in this forum pointing it out to you then maybe your screen is crooked enough to warrant a swap out..My screen actually bricked on 3d content and anytime 3d activated,my phone would restart every time..If this phone I have now had an issue then I'd be done with it..I love the phone,but I think a lot of people here are wanting to love theirs and that's where the picky-ness sets in..I get it but I don't want to look forward to liking a product I buy..I want to like it for being what it is and performing the way it was intended...
Sorry if I came off as being greater than anyone else,I wasn't trying to..I just think I have a higher tolerance for technology than most..
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I would take an HTC phone, over a samdong phone any day. I actually like quality
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Haha says the guy who returned 4 phones already for quality issues
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So I was using my flyer all today, and around 5:30 I left my house to go to class. I put my flyer in my backpack, and when I got to class I took it out and there seems to be moisture under my screen. How the hell it got there? I don't know. There's no way it could've gotten wet at any point during my commute to class. I've posted some pictures so you guys can see what I'm talking about. Is there any way to dry it out that you know of? Is my screen ruined? I sure hope not because i can't afford a fix. :/
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Ps, jar of rice is a given and I'm going to try that when i get home. Thanks for any other ideas
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Its not water. You device has been bent. Basically what's happening is your screen is getting pressured from the back and touching the digitizer panel or some other panel. I had this problem what I did is I placed the device on my lap held from both top side and applied pressure with my palm as if like trying to curve the device and it was fixed. make sure you don't apply too much pressure and break the device. I noticed mine happened because I kept the device in my back pocket and may have sat on it.
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Ps, jar of rice is a given and I'm going to try that when i get home. Thanks for any other ideas
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trust me no need for jar of rice. lol. initially i thought it was water damage as well.
well actually i thought it was humidity damage.
Thanks! I tried it, and it got rid of half of it then kinda made it worse. Any other suggestions on how to apply the pressure so i don't continue making it worse? I'll keep trying.
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Thanks! I tried it, and it got rid of half of it then kinda made it worse. Any other suggestions on how to apply the pressure so i don't continue making it worse? I'll keep trying.
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You have to get rid of all at once then it goes away. if its half gone and you stop it comes back with a different shape.
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You have to get rid of all at once then it goes away. if its half gone and you stop it comes back with a different shape.
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No matter how hard I push I can't get it to go away completely. I'm afraid of permanently damaging it.
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No matter how hard I push I can't get it to go away completely. I'm afraid of permanently damaging it.
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I felt the same when I was trying to fix mine but risked it. I might have have used my thumbs to swipe over the damaged are whilst applying pressure. Basically push air to the affected area so it stops clinging on.
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I felt the same when I was trying to fix mine but risked it. I might have have used my thumbs to swipe over the damaged are whilst applying pressure. Basically push air to the affected area so it stops clinging on.
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well..i've been trying and trying and it's getting to the point where my thumbs are starting to hurt from pushing so hard. lol thanks for your help i'll try again tomorrow or something.
That same thing just happened to me. Had it in my back pocket and I sat on it. I used a suction cup and placed it on the screen to pull the glass from the screen. Seems like the edge of the cup against the part thats touching works best.
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I've had this problem twice, just wait a few hours and it's gone (at least that worked for me)
I had the same problem once. I had it in my back pocket when I was testing out cars at an automobile dealership (sitting down a lot). It fixed itself in about 20 minutes. I think temperature has something to do with it too. I think it cooled off.
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HJ200 said:
I've had this problem twice, just wait a few hours and it's gone (at least that worked for me)
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I had the same problem once. I had it in my back pocket when I was testing out cars at an automobile dealership (sitting down a lot). It fixed itself in about 20 minutes. I think temperature has something to do with it too. I think it cooled off.
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You guys were lucky. I waited two days hoping it will fix itself before fixing it myself.
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That same thing just happened to me. Had it in my back pocket and I sat on it. I used a suction cup and placed it on the screen to pull the glass from the screen. Seems like the edge of the cup against the part thats touching works best.
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The suction cup worked flawlessly! i had to use a pair of pliers to pull on the suction cup because the plastic piece attached to it kept breaking off.. but thank you!!
As for damage to the screen, i've noticed that when i put my finger on the spot where it was bent or whatever and move the homescreen it will sometimes do this weird lag thing but it's not that bad i can live with it. just glad to have the ugly spot gone
They will repair it
I had the same happen, but with no significant pressure applied by me - the biggest issue was not the visible problem, but that the capacative layer went jumpy - sent it in and it was fixed under warranty - 5 days from calling to having a fixed device in my hands - it spent more time in transit than with HTC! I was very impressed.
I just put mine in the pouch overnight and it fixed itself.
Funny, funny, I thought it was something between the screen protector and the screen itself. I had the exact same thing when I had it in my back pocket for some minutes, no sitting down or anything, but it might have gotten a bit of pressure though. I was a lot scared when I saw it, but it just shrunk while I used it again, and with a SLURP (not kidding) it was all clean again in the end. Strange to hear some folks did make use of physical violence against their device to make it tidy again...
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So I was using my flyer all today, and around 5:30 I left my house to go to class. I put my flyer in my backpack, and when I got to class I took it out and there seems to be moisture under my screen. How the hell it got there? I don't know. There's no way it could've gotten wet at any point during my commute to class. I've posted some pictures so you guys can see what I'm talking about. Is there any way to dry it out that you know of? Is my screen ruined? I sure hope not because i can't afford a fix.
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Hi fellow Flyer owners,
Same thing happened to me many times.
1. First time-was a very soft press, leading to forefinger sized patch, it went away by itself within a few minutes. No orange discoloration throughout.
2. Second time was more serious-had accidentally sat on it while on jeans backpocket (never do this, guys !!). It led to a double thumb sized patch with the same orange fringe discolouration that Gumby63 showed. I took to HTC Centre, they said "LCD Crystal had leaked out" leading to both the wet patch and discolouration. No amount of rubbing and bending will remove that. Unit was deemed defective.
They changed the entire unit FOC taking 3 days and all lost data. The new unit had a much harder glass, it will not show liquid marks even under very heavy finger pressing. (But do not sit or overly pressure it, might crack glass !!)
Conclusion: The 1st batches of Flyers have soft glass, where very succeptible to patch and leaks. Some of you could have gotten an exchange, others might have no problem yet.
My Flyer now has Part Number : P/N 99HML044-01 D
Its a 32gb 3G Wifi. The "-01" and suffix "D" could signify an upgraded display.
Guys, hope my information helps you.
Grumby,
I just relooked your pictures, it does seem you have LCD crystal leak. Could you take yours in and mention for a change to better glass version.
You could quote them my new P/N as safe measure.
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Grumby,
I just relooked your pictures, it does seem you have LCD crystal leak. Could you take yours in and mention for a change to better glass version.
You could quote them my new P/N as safe measure.
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Well I fixed it with the suction cup, I'm not to worried about it seeing as my device still works perfectly (it doesn't do the screen jumpy thing I mentioned earlier anymore) but maybe if it happens again I will try what you said. I'm being extra careful now
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This happened to me 3 times. First time I had it in my back pocket. The patch appeared after a 10 min walk. Didn't sit on it. It went away by itself after an hour or so.
2nd and 3rd time it seemed to happen randomly. On the 3rd occurrence the flyer was just in my bag. When I took it out the patch was there again. After 2 days, it was still there so I decided to go to the HTC service center and have it repaired. that was yesterday. Now I need to wait 3 to 5 working days, hopefully not longer!
Update: I got my flyer back a few days after bringing it to the service center. Good as new! Either they replaced the casing or gave me a new/refurbished unit because all the scratches and dents are gone. =)
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Just bought an amaze. And I see that I have a bad screen bleed, also one dead pixel. Anybody else have the same issue?
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Nope I don't have any dead pixels or screen bleed .
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I take that back, its not actually screen bleed. When the lights at the bottom of the phone light up I get the screen bleed effect.
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Oh so its fine now right ?
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Not really lol. But its better cause when watching videos those keys will not be illuminated
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I tried three different ones before I gave up. All of them had that with the lights. When on they bled up the bottom of the screen. You can really notice it when the screen is dark or black background.
yea mine has it and all the ones i tried did so exchanging it wont result in anything it appears
I only have screen bleeding issue when screen isn't on full brightness. Doesn't really bother me.
I posted this in another thread, but I took some pictures of the "screen bleed" (light from the buttons bleeding over into the screen) on my Amaze 4G. I also put up some pictures of my Nexus S, which has the same button configuration, but zero screen bleed:
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Here's the best picture, with the Nexus S for comparison:
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I only have screen bleeding issue when screen isn't on full brightness. Doesn't really bother me.
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Exactly. Doesn't bother me really. At least its not an issue that hinders the actual performance of the device like the epic 4g touch and its loss of signal issues that everyone is having.
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I posted this in another thread, but I took some pictures of the "screen bleed" (light from the buttons bleeding over into the screen) on my Amaze 4G. I also put up some pictures of my Nexus S, which has the same button configuration, but zero screen bleed:
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That picture is unfair to the HTC Amaze, the bezel is supposed to be the same color but it's a lot darker on the Nexus S picture.
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That picture is unfair to the HTC Amaze, the bezel is supposed to be the same color but it's a lot darker on the Nexus S picture.
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Hokay, I added more pics to my album. Sorry about the terrible shakycam, I don't have a tripod or anything, and flash screws everything up.
Here's the two side-by-side. One thing I noticed: the Nexus is absolutely fantastic at preserving the blacks. I'm sure this is due to a difference in backlight/screen tech, but it's really impressive - black is just black on the Nexus. The Amaze is much lighter grey when it's supposed to be "black". Here's the two side-by-side with the backlights at their lowest and highest settings:
But even without any backlight or bottom lights, the Nexus' screen is still noticeably blacker than the Amaze. I also added another picture I found elsewhere on the web with two versions of the Nexus S - it is just a difference in the screen tech (SuperLCD vs AMOLED). That may be a factor here as well.
I'm not trying to discredit the Amaze at all - I own it, I love it, and I plan on keeping it. The screen bleed is probably made worse/more noticeable by the screen tech choice, which isn't as good at reproducing blacks. This isn't a huge issue for me, but I just wanted to document the differences here. I'm just taking the best pictures I can to represent it - it really is noticeable in person too, if you care about such things.
Can you take pictures in normal daylight on it's auto light settings to show how it looks in real life..
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Here's the two side-by-side. One thing I noticed: the Nexus is absolutely fantastic at preserving the blacks. I'm sure this is due to a difference in backlight/screen tech, but it's really impressive - black is just black on the Nexus. The Amaze is much lighter grey when it's supposed to be "black". Here's the two side-by-side with the backlights at their lowest and highest settings
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Wow, indeed. I didn't think the blacks would be so different on the two phones (which is why I thought it came from your pictures - evidently I was wrong).
Those pictures are awesome and clearly show how the bottom lights affect the screen, thanks!
Not enough to make me reconsider (though maybe I'll change my mind when I finally have it in hands).
My friend had a very similar light bleeding in his EVO...one day he broke the screen and when replaced with a new one, the problem was gone. so it was a manufacturing issue on the first screen.
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Can you take pictures in normal daylight on it's auto light settings to show how it looks in real life..
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Hokay. I've added some outdoor pictures, and a set of indoor pictures in my dark apartment now that it's day. Updated link. It definitely is much less noticeable outside (although I spend a considerable amount of time inside that I count as "real life" as well ), and the Nexus screen is still blacker, although not as much. Pics:
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Wow, indeed. I didn't think the blacks would be so different on the two phones (which is why I thought it came from your pictures - evidently I was wrong).
Those pictures are awesome and clearly show how the bottom lights affect the screen, thanks!
Not enough to make me reconsider (though maybe I'll change my mind when I finally have it in hands).
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Yeah, the side-by-side Nexus pic I found really demonstrates that. It's not nearly as disparate outdoors, but indoors it's pretty noticeable. And it is just the screen tech - screen techs have their pros and cons, black reproduction is only one aspect of screen quality.
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Exactly. Doesn't bother me really. At least its not an issue that hinders the actual performance of the device like the epic 4g touch and its loss of signal issues that everyone is having.
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Not a performance issue but could be an easy software fix just have the keys dim with the screen. Sent htc an email so other versions might be better.. but I'm sure once we get root there might be a fix for it
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Not a performance issue but could be an easy software fix just have the keys dim with the screen. Sent htc an email so other versions might be better.. but I'm sure once we get root there might be a fix for it
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Do the lights dim? Most LEDs are only capable of being on or off..
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Do the lights dim? Most LEDs are only capable of being on or off..
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All the LEDs are capable of being dimmed, you just have to give them less power.
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All the LEDs are capable of being dimmed, you just have to give them less power.
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Not terribly on-topic, but LEDs are generally actually dimmed via pulse-width modulation - basically, if you want 50% brightness, you turn them on for 50% of the time, off 50% of the time, at >60Hz. Among other things, LED color depends on current - so supplying less current would not only make them dimmer, but change the color.
Anyone enjoy tinkering and working on hardware that would enjoy having a side job opening or dismantling DNA's and maybe a few other devices?
I'm looking for a partner in a project that has experience on the hardware side of electronics and spends some time on the forums or surfing the net.
If this is something you might be interested in let me know. I also need someone to source some bricked DNA's.
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Define tinkering , I have changed screens on my HD2 from one to the other on many occasions . So Im interested but I dont know if that is enough to help you out ?
same here, I have opened and replaced screens on iphone 4 and 4s. taken apart and brought back to life an o2 atom, opened a one x to replace the screen and did it.
I have had my DNAs apart. But mostly only opened up phones with removable batterys. Honestly the hardest part is getting the shielding off this phone without mangling it.
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It's going to be a learning process I'm not looking for a DNA take apart expert, mostly I need someone interested in participating that's patient, and doesn't get halfway through a tear down then drive to the nearest lake and dump the parts in the water because of frustration.
The kind of person that might take apart the family's microwave to see what's inside (or buy an ATM machine to see how they work lol). Someone who enjoys mechanical stuff and can stay level headed even if they hit a bump in the road, take a breather then out think that stripped screw by making it a flathead with a dremel tool so you can unscrew it and replace it.
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It's going to be a learning process I'm not looking for a DNA take apart expert, mostly I need someone interested in participating that's patient, and doesn't get halfway through a tear down then drive to the nearest lake and dump the parts in the water because of frustration.
The kind of person that might take apart the family's microwave to see what's inside (or buy an ATM machine to see how they work lol). Someone who enjoys mechanical stuff and can stay level headed even if they hit a bump in the road, take a breather then out think that stripped screw by making it a flathead with a dremel tool so you can unscrew it and replace it.
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Totally up my alley, but I just simply don't have the time these days. Wish I could help, but I just can't.
Hit me up on gtalk if ur still looking for someone. I've taken apart and replaced screens, charging ports, and cameras on a few different model phones, mainly HTC. I've even learned the art of soldering those tiny little solderjoints on some phones
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I am game
I've replaced the battery in my razr with the extended battery and replaced the digitizer in my og droid
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eriknors said:
Hit me up on gtalk if ur still looking for someone. I've taken apart and replaced screens, charging ports, and cameras on a few different model phones, mainly HTC. I've even learned the art of soldering those tiny little solderjoints on some phones
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Best thing is to use solder paste imo
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Excellent thanks guys that's exactly what I'm looking for. I will be contacting you as I get into it and time permits.
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I have had my DNAs apart...
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Thank you! :good:
Well, Im a EE.. and I didn't fall into this profession on accident.
Took the DNA apart a few days after I got it. It really IS water proof!
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My Keurig Coffe Pot. It was not filling the cup as fast as I wanted it too, a little tweak to the pressure tank fixed that.
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I got bored and built a computer case out of some Priority Mail shipping boxes. I wonder if I can still ship this..
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Sometimes I bring my work home with me.. okay, more like -always-. My wife can get irritated with me...
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A circuit board I designed to do 3d Infrared Proximity sensing. 4 sensors on the underside do the detection.
The PCB diagram of the board above. Designed with PCB artist.
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These are just a few of the things I mess around with. In all cases above, the things still worked when I was done "tweaking" them. Thats not always the case lol. Sometimes my curiosity has broken stuff, but not that often.
However, I don't only take apart electronics. When I bought my house, I didn't like my bathroom one saturday, So I removed it, the walls, the floor, the ceiling.. and built a bigger one with a skylight, jet tub, tile floor, walk in shower.. I found out later that I guess your supposed to have a permit to do stuff like that? lol.. oh well. Sold the house and nobody asked questions.. shhh!!
I have also rebuilt the engine in my 2004 Sport Trac. It sucked a valve into the #1 cylinder and shattered the piston. Pulled it, disassembled the entire motor, replaced the piston, crank, connecting rod, timing gears/chain, intake manifold.. then put it all back together in about 4 days. Alone in my dads garage (I don't have a garage.. sigh) last December. Works like a champ and only cost me 300 bucks to do!
I'm a tinkerer turned professional.. a professional tinkerer? lol. To me, all things work the same.. if you can take apart a microwave, you can disassemble yard sprinkler system, or rebuild a transmission. Everything comes apart, and everything can be put back together.. doesn't matter what it is.
So what are you workin on?
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Well, Im a EE.. and I didn't fall into this profession on accident....
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Dude, that is awesome!
I would have loved to pursue a career such as that. The most tinkering I do is car stuffs and little gadget repairs here and there. Maybe one day...
Serenity, that's pretty awesome. But electronic trannies to me are meant for professionals. I used to hate rebuilding the Allison 4L80E trannies in hmmwv's.
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Now you guys have my attention. When I was 14 I got a 1968 Chevy pickup that was supposed to be a rat rod style cheap daily driver hotrod.
Within 3 months it had turned into a frame off restoration project/show truck/daily driver/built for the hot rod power tour as well.
While working on that Dad and I got into drag racing and built a 91 Camaro drag car.
Fuel injection is what first got me into technology. I was into mechanical things but computers kind of scared me because of the unknown. And this was way before smart phones and tablets and such so tech wasn't part of popular trends.
I decided I couldnt judge computers based on not knowing them, so I decided to take one apart. I was pleasantly surprised to learn it was just like building a racing engine or designing custom suspensions. And here I am
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And here I am
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this is me, no where on earth I'd rather be
PS:-sorry for the OT
Okay saw the post and wondered... how far you guys got with taking the DNA's apart?
I'm in the process of replacing the screen with digitizer. Well this was the plan and now I have taken off the motherboard, battery, charging and the camera portion according to the video from etrader.
It seems I have to get the LCD and digitzer away from the actual frame, but that is nowhere mentioned or shown and I don't really know where to start (prying or not ... )
Attached 2 pics... I really need help, my wife is driving my crazy complain about my old trust Droid X ... even so it was her in the first place breaking the DNA.
Thanks Jens
I happen to have a disassembled DNA on my desk. I'll take look in the morning and get back to you
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The Allison and 4L80E are two entirely different transmissions....Just sayin'
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Okay saw the post and wondered... how far you guys got with taking the DNA's apart?
I'm in the process of replacing the screen with digitizer. Well this was the plan and now I have taken off the motherboard, battery, charging and the camera portion according to the video from etrader.
It seems I have to get the LCD and digitzer away from the actual frame, but that is nowhere mentioned or shown and I don't really know where to start (prying or not ... )
Attached 2 pics... I really need help, my wife is driving my crazy complain about my old trust Droid X ... even so it was her in the first place breaking the DNA.
Thanks Jens
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Heat plus light pry tool around midframe then pull the ribbons through the midframe and clean up old glass
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