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Hi i have just got this device and so far love it i just have a question if i look at a blank browser window i can see that white is not pure it has a sort of yellowish tint and if i compare to my ipad the difference is clear on the ipad the white is totaly white. Any one noticed this and how are your whites.
This is already widely known and discussed in various threads.
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This is already widely known and discussed in various threads.
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Have just looked at every thread in questions and cant find anything usefull about this issue i would like to know if i should exchange my device and insist on one with proper whites if they exist or if everyone has this problem and i will just get another one with the same issue
I notice this and me too was to compare this with my wife ipad2 notice specially the browser was yellowish but if the brightness is high it turn white. I had the same with my Galaxy S2 but in the settings you can change the screen scenario (CM10.1). For the browser I use UC Browser, you can set the brightness for the browser a bit higher to make the white more white.
MikeViller said:
I notice this and me too was to compare this with my wife ipad2 notice specially the browser was yellowish but if the brightness is high it turn white. I had the same with my Galaxy S2 but in the settings you can change the screen scenario (CM10.1). For the browser I use UC Browser, you can set the brightness for the browser a bit higher to make the white more white.
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Just downloaded and used screen adjuster from play store and set blue to 11 and yellow tint is gone with that setting whites are nearly pure white so i will keep device as im sure it will be sorted in a rom at some point
A few days I also tried Screen Adjuster, but meh! it's not good.
Slows everything down.
Try scrolling in a good (!) browser (i.e. not Chrome) without Screen Adjuster - buttery smooth and fast. Then activate Screen adjuster and see lags all over the place.
I f I wanted that I could remain with my old Acer A700...
Another issue is that Screen Adjuster is not running all the time; when you start an app, you will sometimes see that S.A. kicks in only a bit later.
There are screen calibration apps by Sony built-in in certain smartphones, also the Xperia Z. So there is hope (and we users must insist) that Sony releases such an app for the Tablet Z in the near future...
for that to happen we need a forum that people from Sony will see and read .........
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for that to happen we need a forum that people from Sony will see and read .........
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There exists such a forum HERE.
So is it hardware or software? Any ideas?
You can flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190293 and use the white balance from the Z / ZL phones, shows up then under Display
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You can flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190293 and use the white balance from the Z / ZL phones, shows up then under Display
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You have done that yourself? And it works? Without problems?
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You have done that yourself? And it works? Without problems?
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Yep, works fine ! I have a 16GB Wifi, on 370 rooted, UB. Same setting as I have on my Xperia Z for white balance.
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Yep, works fine ! I have a 16GB Wifi, on 370 rooted, UB. Same setting as I have on my Xperia Z for white balance.
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that sounds great did install that on my experia z will give it a go and would appreciate if you could you tell me what settings you use.
Each display is different - so you have to try for yourself.
My display has a yellowish-greenish tint; saturation=7.5 and color=209 works quite well for me.
(Thanks for the tip, by the way!)
60fps works see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...fps-video-recording-libchanger-t3424621/page3
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Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google as I don't have a camera 2 device I'm attaching a test apk set to 120fps I wanna see if its working if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p from that we could set fps range to 60,60
Two part test if preview running at 120fps and if recording working
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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Done basically install the apk see if it works or not
You should change "60p" to "60 fps". I think you're confusing vertical resolution with fps.
Regardless, I'm glad we're talking about this. 30 fps video is dumb and objectively much worse than 60 fps. Google's priorities here are totally wrong.
Btw, video preview is running at around 5-10 fps, and app FCs when you start recording. That's on a non-rooted 6.0.1.
I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
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I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
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You are mistaken, google doesn't care for it either.
Which, reading their reply, is total BS.
Theyre focusing on making it stable? They've had more than enough time to do that, it's plenty stable - given their resources and the fact that they designed it on their own platform. Not to mention the existence of 120/240 fps making it painfully obvious that this is either laziness or an oversight (neither are excusable) for not having included a 60fps option, my S5 had that for gods sake, a phone that launched in April of '14 had this ability. Along with each successor to the Galaxy line, iphones, LG, I cant think of a flagship that can't do it?
Maybe I'm (we're?) in the minority in believing that it's pathetic to have a phone with the capabilities this one does, but lacks a function that very few - if any - new phones also lack that would really make the videos taken on the device a lot better. I'ts getting frustrating that Google, and the Nexus brand, are supposed to be top of the line and cutting edge - for the most part - but have, seemingly on purpose, chosen to exclude some of the key desirable components that customers want. Wireless charging (i know it was left out to make it thinner) but still... and these were two things I really hoped for, I think the 6P was a step in the wrong direction. Huawei really treated me like **** when they sent me the wrong 6P (the bastard model that excluded band 10 for some dumb reason) and refused to allow me to exchange or return it no matter what.
If Huawei makes the 2016 Nexus, I will gladly wash my hands of it, there's no way that company will ever get my business again.
I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
I've pushed modified blob and app source to git @ https://github.com/defcomk/c2Vid as stated I have no camera 2 device so I go by logcats .
Anyway the source is there added some log lines as from the crash I could not see what exactly caused the crash
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I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
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From the leaked Qualcomm camera source code it looks like 60fps comes part of most libs and oems remove them for what reason I dunno but if you can find a device with same sensor and 60fps all that is needed is the registers for timmings and clocks and res entry but the later can be calculated.
There is hope for LG G5/One Plus 3/Mi5
HTC I tried but could only get it to 40fps in camera 1 mode Camera 2 mode the target fps range stuff maxed out at 30 perhaps when ae turned off in full manual it will work .in Camera 1 mode its another mess by htc where they broke qualcom video-hfr parameter in favour of their own video-mode which seems like a copy paste job from htc one m9 half then they broke it.
I patched hal as far as to allow fps range up to 120fps but the code that switches between the different sensor out put res mode was crippled.
I dunno if Camera2 was intended to even support 60p the only method I see is using HighSpeedCapture mode which only recognizes >=120 .
So in the blob pushed to git 1080p is set to max fps of 120 so it shows up in The high-speed mode .
In the root of the repo is text file showing imx377 configs
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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I mean most people complain about slow start times of the camera on tge n6p anyway so I'd hate to see it slowed even further. While Samsung isn't exactly the best developers, they have a massive amount of devs I'm sure. But I still agree. If they can do it, Google and others should be able to also.
Just to clarify, my dislike for Huawei stems far beyond this issue. I will link to the thread (if anyone wants it) where I outline the month-long ordeal where they constantly lied to me about having a tech call me back, refunding my purchase, allowing me to return my 128GB 6P - all because they sent me the A2 style 6P, not the A1 style which everyone else on this continent got, and I purchased 4 other identical 6Ps in that same order, but one was a bastard model that lacked band 10, a band that is necessary for it to work for me on USCC (works on everyone else though) - Google NEVER sold the A2 style, only the A1 (which included band 10) and works perfectly fine. Of the 4 phones purchased, 3 were the A1 style, 1 was the A2 style, and this was never an option when ordered since...there was never more than 1 style that was publically known. They gave me a phone with missing hardware, refused to replace/return/rectify the situation in any form.
Anyway, THATS why I will never do business with them again. Their CS is absolute bull**** and they lie to their customers when they have legitimate issues that THEY caused.
The 60fps issue is on Google, it would be sweet to have, and I can't see any reasonable logic to not including it with the app on the phone? Thats all.
Cleaned up the bickering, let's all play nicely together please.
Hope you have a good day!
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defcomg said:
Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google,
as I don't have a camera 2 device to test I'm attaching a test apk below
FPS is set 120fps I wanna see if its working , if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p.
With 120fps 1080p we could set fps range to 60,60 allowing 60p video.
This is a Two part test .
A) if preview running at 120fps
B)if video recording is working
Logcat the test if any error occurs
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CyberZeus_Viva said:
A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
shuckeru said:
i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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does it modify the camera app? no
does it replace the camera app? also, no
does it introduce a new fps mode? yes
did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps? It's more complicated than that, and OP is still working things out.
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I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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-That app was created for another device so the lag is expected and Yes defcomk is creating a software mod and will enable the FPS we deserve. some good progress but nothing solid yet. (patience)
-This won't bork your camera lol
-Regarding L Camera, it was capable but was more of a test being that it got the job done on the Nexus 5 but with lot's of sacrifices and such. hence the reason it was more of a way of just testing camera 2 api. The IMX377 sensor on our phone is more than capable but defcomk is still deep in testing.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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well, it does this for me too which is unfortunate.
I don't really understand what's the problem? Can't someone just make a camera app that records at 120fps and just saves one frame and throws away the other? There you go 60fps.
Or you could edit the video yourself and remove every second frame?
Anyone notice that the resolution shows 2k on this device but the icons and pictures and other things dont look as crisp as they should? They look sort of blown out.
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Anyone notice that the resolution shows 2k on this device but the icons and pictures and other things dont look as crisp as they should? They look sort of blown out.
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I noticed it on my Axon 7 phone which has a QHD display too.
icons are probably incorrect resolution, 2k screen isn't that popular. Also you might have smart resolution on, (i never notice it and therefore doubt it does anything at all)
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icons are probably incorrect resolution, 2k screen isn't that popular. Also you might have smart resolution on, (i never notice it and therefore doubt it does anything at all)
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Smart resolution is off but screen (especially fonts) arent very smooth. Maybe its the EMUI ROM
jeanxx said:
Anyone notice that the resolution shows 2k on this device but the icons and pictures and other things dont look as crisp as they should? They look sort of blown out.
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I have TAB S 10.5" (Lineage OS 14.x) and M5 10.8" (latest) ... If I set dpi 800 in dev options, I see zero difference in sharpness compare to 2 tablets (2k oled pentile vs. 2k ips true), oled is vivid but it is not crispier
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I have TAB S 10.5" (Lineage OS 14.x) and M5 10.8" (latest) ... If I set dpi 800 in dev options, I see zero difference in sharpness compare to 2 tablets (2k oled pentile vs. 2k ips true), oled is vivid but it is not crispier
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Okay, thank you I thought I may have had a bad unit or that the tablet was using some trash screen. Thanks again for the response
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I have TAB S 10.5" (Lineage OS 14.x) and M5 10.8" (latest) ... If I set dpi 800 in dev options, I see zero difference in sharpness compare to 2 tablets (2k oled pentile vs. 2k ips true), oled is vivid but it is not crispier
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technically, the IPS screen would be better, as it has RGB layout instead of pentile.
But the resolution on both is high enough you probably can't tell the difference anyway.
I think its strange youtube will never give an option of more than 1080p
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I have TAB S 10.5" (Lineage OS 14.x) and M5 10.8" (latest) ... If I set dpi 800 in dev options, I see zero difference in sharpness compare to 2 tablets (2k oled pentile vs. 2k ips true), oled is vivid but it is not crispier
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Currently the "smallest width" is set to 627 dpi. Would you recommend boosting that up to 800 dpi then?
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Currently the "smallest width" is set to 627 dpi. Would you recommend boosting that up to 800 dpi then?
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I came from TAB S and 800 dpi ("smallest width") gave me same experience. Only issue is that, every reboot reset this dev value to 756. (+ in settings/display view mode: small; font size: normal)
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I came from TAB S and 800 dpi ("smallest width") gave me same experience. Only issue is that, every reboot reset this dev value to 756. (+ in settings/display view mode: small; font size: normal)
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Awesome, thank you!
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I came from TAB S and 800 dpi ("smallest width") gave me same experience. Only issue is that, every reboot reset this dev value to 756. (+ in settings/display view mode: small; font size: normal)
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Quick question, how do you get it to stick after reboot? Mine keeps going back to 627 dpi.
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Currently the "smallest width" is set to 627 dpi. Would you recommend boosting that up to 800 dpi then?
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I boost mine to 915 (I think!), though I have to bump up the font size if I do that. Having come from a Tab S, that seems closer to a similar use of screen real estate (e.g. in YouTube, it shows 5 videos per row on the home page). Unfortunately, it means the other settings can no longer be accessed, so I need to reboot if I want to change anything
I'm surprised that more people aren't complaining about this. I think Huawei have simply taken the interface from the 8.4 version without any changes, so things are just bigger all round but you get no advantage to choosing the 10.8 version
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I'm surprised that more people aren't complaining about this. I think Huawei have simply taken the interface from the 8.4 version without any changes, so things are just bigger all round but you get no advantage to choosing the 10.8 version
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Someone had posted just last week that the M5 feels like a large phone and not a tablet, likely due to it not identifying itself as a tablet. This causes annoyance with some apps as they draw as if they are on a phone, which when stretched to a tablet screen not not good. Instead of making use of the extra screen space and resolution, things just becomes hard to use.
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Currently the "smallest width" is set to 627 dpi. Would you recommend boosting that up to 800 dpi then?
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I have mine set to 1250 dpi and I love it. So much real-estate, looks clean, higher quality and since its on the Resurrection Remix Rom, the dpi stays at that custom number even after reboot. Some things are hard to tap at times but I use GMD gestures and control the tablet with gestures and tasker
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Someone had posted just last week that the M5 feels like a large phone and not a tablet, likely due to it not identifying itself as a tablet. This causes annoyance with some apps as they draw as if they are on a phone, which when stretched to a tablet screen not not good. Instead of making use of the extra screen space and resolution, things just becomes hard to use.
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The Resurrection Remix Rom makes things easy to set a better resolution that works well for the bigger screen real-estate ☺
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I boost mine to 915 (I think!), though I have to bump up the font size if I do that. Having come from a Tab S, that seems closer to a similar use of screen real estate (e.g. in YouTube, it shows 5 videos per row on the home page). Unfortunately, it means the other settings can no longer be accessed, so I need to reboot if I want to change anything
I'm surprised that more people aren't complaining about this. I think Huawei have simply taken the interface from the 8.4 version without any changes, so things are just bigger all round but you get no advantage to choosing the 10.8 version
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Check out my latest response with pictures included. I use RR rom with 1250 dpi and everything works atleast 99.9% accurately for me and allows me to see things better, even on reboot
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Awesome, thank you!
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Quick question, how do you get it to stick after reboot? Mine keeps going back to 627 dpi.
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Use RR rom as it has dpi number customization thats works perfectly and stays on reboot!
odd1ne said:
I think its strange youtube will never give an option of more than 1080p
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Look up vanced youtube apk on google. Default youtube on this tablet does not use a specific codec that is required "VP9". Vanced youtube has this codec in its settings that supports 2k option videos
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The Resurrection Remix Rom makes things easy to set a better resolution that works well for the bigger screen real-estate
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No thanks, not rooting my device. Had a very bad experience with rooting a while back which bricked a brand new phone and got no help here.
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Use RR rom as it has dpi number customization thats works perfectly and stays on reboot!
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I really wish I could, sadly I can't get an unlock code anymore. :crying:
any available Gcam for xperia1 III now?
Have you checked GCam Port Hub?
IDK why you bother looking for another camera while your phone's is already very great IMO.
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any available Gcam for xperia1 III now?
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The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
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The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
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thx
Masterblop said:
The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
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How can ı use this xml file with the app?
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How can ı use this xml file with the app?
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I have made a thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/gcam-sony-xperia-1iii.4343691/
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I have made a thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/gcam-sony-xperia-1iii.4343691/
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Thank you very much bro
Which one are you guys using?
New updated version: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/f/dl53/
Tried and working version: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1s_MGC.apk
Hello,
Is there any option to made the photo sphere working? Honestly I only try to have Gcam for this mode hehe.
Thank you for the apk
Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
stiltzkin said:
Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
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Photography pro and pretty much every xperia before always use very little elaboration. Pretty much every review and testing state that photography pro could obtain high quality photos if used in manual mode. It's not easy, but auto it's not good. For casual photo shot better using basic mode, if you switch to advancet setting, avoid auto and use P, S, or M mode.
I know it's a smartphone and not a mirrorless or a Reflex but it's something like buying a 5000 euro camera body to use it with automatic settings.
Also form the photo you posted i see that the wood construction in the xperia auto mode is darker...but...the tree foliage on the top left clearly show more detail in the middle photo. The Gcam settings appear to have too much sharpness and grain.
Probably the middle photo with a little more exposure time or a little more iso will be the best one of the three.
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Photography pro and pretty much every xperia before always use very little elaboration. Pretty much every review and testing state that photography pro could obtain high quality photos if used in manual mode.
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I won't argue this with you; I've seen some great results in reviews from people using the camera in Manual mode. I'm sure it's possible to obtain superior results if you have the time to compose your shot and find the perfect settings.
The thing is though, for most of the photos I would want to take with a smartphone camera, I don't have time to find optimal settings manually. When I do have that time, I think the ability to make those manual adjustments is awesome (and should be in more smartphones), but most of the time I don't. That means that the Auto/Basic modes are incredibly important, because it's how I'll end up taking most photos in real life. Maybe that means that this phone is not marketed to me, and if that's the case, that's fine. But manual settings are pretty much outside the scope of discussion for this thread - what I wanted was a comparison of essentially default settings between my current phone and this phone.
Evil_Sephiroth said:
For casual photo shot better using basic mode, if you switch to advancet setting, avoid auto and use P, S, or M mode.
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In my testing, I actually found that Basic mode usually takes worse photos than Auto mode. In particular, Basic mode seems to have a big problem with overexposure. I assume because HDR/DRO is not being used?
Left to right: Reference (Xiaomi), Sony Auto, Sony Basic, Sony Gcam
(I had to scale down this comparison for posting)
Also, all modes on this phone do not capture detail as well as my current 3 year old phone. If you blow up the details, clearly the reference photo on the left has by far the best preservation:
Left to right: Reference (Xiaomi), Sony Auto, Sony Basic, Sony Gcam
This holds for every test photo I took - the detail is worse from the Xperia. I don't think manual mode tweaks will fix this - it seems like the sensor and software just don't capture as much detail.
But then again, I am not a professional photographer, so I'm not completely sure. Maybe I am doing something wrong.
All in all, I was really disappointed with these results since I wanted to love this phone!
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
stiltzkin said:
Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
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In this case for me Sony photo pro>Xiaomi>Sony GCam. Probably we have different opinions or eyes hehe
jaseman said:
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
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It's the new MHz race on x86 CPU when Pentium 4 were a thing
My race started with Hz
jaseman said:
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
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An owner of this particular phone with close to insanity price tag is supposed to be obsessed with camera quality. Just because this is the main selling point of it - Zeiss, Sony Alpha team etc. Unfortunaly I'm less than impressed too . Other flaws like average battery life, no face unlock, low screen brightness at daylight etc etc don't help to love this phone either....
Hi.
Can someone please make some camera comparisons between Android 11 and 12? I mean to take the same outdoor pictures using same settings and compare it?
I wonder whether we received planned product aging (camera quality degradation via software "update").
Interesting if it is same, worse or better.
Also, is there finally night mode included?
Would also be nice to see, if the apps themself had a update.
@decomposed
What kind of "Night mode" are you talking about?
Basic-Mode as well as Automatik-Mode include automatic scene recognition. Part of it a dedicated profiles for:
Night portrait
Night scene
Low light
Xperia 1 III XQ-BC52/XQ-BC62/XQ-BC72 | Help Guide | Scene and condition recognition
Hudrator said:
Would also be nice to see, if the apps themself had a update.
@decomposed
What kind of "Night mode" are you talking about?
Basic-Mode as well as Automatik-Mode include automatic scene recognition. Part of it a dedicated profiles for:
Night portrait
Night scene
Low light
Xperia 1 III XQ-BC52/XQ-BC62/XQ-BC72 | Help Guide | Scene and condition recognition
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This is not a true nigh-mode. I am talking about something that other manufacturers offers, a mode you can turn on / off manually and something that hives great night results. Mark 3 still is far behind competition in worse light conditions...
Example of dedicated night mode I am referring to:
A12's camera quality beter than A11's.
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This is not a true nigh-mode. I am talking about something that other manufacturers offers, a mode you can turn on / off manually and something that hives great night results. Mark 3 still is far behind competition in worse light conditions...
Example of dedicated night mode I am referring to:
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Ah is see what you mean.
Well i wouldn't count that in. With the more tradtionell photography appoach sony is taking, i don't think we will see something like this in near future.
Which is okay i guess - concidering the target group of the device. Not aiming for "main stream" in this regards i guess.
As well i would love to see some kind of that maybe in the basic mode - giving the customer the choice which approach he prevers.
@Mazellat
Can you give some more detail? What has become better? Would love to hear some news on this as - due to the availeability - it seems that there hasn't been to much testing on this at the moment.
Not to go off the topic, this is mostly to confirm whether sony applied planned product aging for camera or not. Would be great if someone could post Android 11 and 12 comparison sample pics.
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Not to go off the topic, this is mostly to confirm whether sony applied planned product aging for camera or not. Would be great if someone could post Android 11 and 12 comparison sample pics.
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Sony is not known for improving photo quality with updates. And their updates rate and older product support lags behind the competition. For example not that old Xperia 5 is still on October 1 2021 security update. Suggest that it will never get Android 12.
It's too soon to be breaking the XPeria 1 III in software. If people want to know what to expect from the next phone, they're going to look at the current phones.
My phone does seem to get buggier every day (still on 11) to the point were it's nearly unusable. I had to keep it powered off yesterday because it kept randomly waking up into apps WHILE LOCKED and in my pocket. I'm going to attribute this Sony software sucking rather than intentionally making the phone obsolete.
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It's too soon to be breaking the XPeria 1 III in software. If people want to know what to expect from the next phone, they're going to look at the current phones.
My phone does seem to get buggier every day (still on 11) to the point were it's nearly unusable. I had to keep it powered off yesterday because it kept randomly waking up into apps WHILE LOCKED and in my pocket. I'm going to attribute this Sony software sucking rather than intentionally making the phone obsolete.
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That's a thing that happen also to other phones that people bring here ins tore to repair. 90% of the time is something third party app related and could be solved with a factory reset and with app behaviour checking.
Maybe this is not your case but...
Also if you already not selected it try activating under display setting "avoid accidental use when display is off" and deactivating under lockscreen preference "double tap to wake"
kevinmcmurtrie said:
It's too soon to be breaking the XPeria 1 III in software. If people want to know what to expect from the next phone, they're going to look at the current phones.
My phone does seem to get buggier every day (still on 11) to the point were it's nearly unusable. I had to keep it powered off yesterday because it kept randomly waking up into apps WHILE LOCKED and in my pocket. I'm going to attribute this Sony software sucking rather than intentionally making the phone obsolete.
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You can also consider installing XPERI+.
GitHub - ivaniskandar/shouko: Xpand the feature set of your Android!
Xpand the feature set of your Android! Contribute to ivaniskandar/shouko development by creating an account on GitHub.
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This adds a feature to prevent accidental touches you're describing.