I'm going to post this here because this is essentially where it all started, so I figure it's fitting.
This is basically an "Ending" to everything that happened on this thread Public Warning, Jaywan is Untrustworthy which is still up, but currently locked. I decided not to ask to have it opened again because I didn't want the chance for anything to be changed in that thread. Things got interesting at Page 30, and then started getting odd around the end. (Panda lol's)
In that thread I explained how my friend, and later 2 other people came forward stating that a phone being sold by a dev here was not shipped, and all communications stopped as soon as he received the money from each person. His explanation was that he went on vacation and left the shipping up to someone else. Page 28 he made an appearance, but, in my opinion, handled the comments from everyone else very poorly. by making threats of lawsuit, Tasteless jabs at the situation, and even an admission of insurance fraud
So, that is a recap of that thread... Oh, and did I mention Polar bears?
Here is how it all ended. Rugedraw was the only one that opted to go through with the purchase of "one" of the 3 he said he was selling. This is the message Rugedraw sent me on it's arrival "Hey, man.....I received the package today. The phone is as described. Boots up fine and has a 2.3.5-based Sense 3.5 rom on it. It even came included with an OEM HTC soft rubber case. I called Sprint and verified that the ESN is clean and the phone can be activated.
I have to say: I am 100% satisfied with the phone.
Who would of thought that last week, huh?"
So, he got what he paid for. But after everything, my friend and Faugnom1 weren't interested in possibly getting jerked around anymore and simply opted to have their money returned. Which Jaywan said in the thread he would do.
Paypal was never contacted by him on neither case. On Dallas's case, he had until Nov. 8th to respond or Paypal would rule in Dallas's favor. Which they did, He has had his money returned BY Paypal. faugnom1's case required a response on the 10th. This is what faugnom1 sent me:
faugnom1:"He said he would pay me by today, the same day my paypal thing is up. So if I dont hear from him in a few hours ill finalize the case.
Me:Did you just go thru withthe PayPal dispute?
faugnom1:Yeah never heard from him again after that one day. Paypal ruled in my favor.
So, Paypal disputed in both Dallas's and faugnom1's favor and they were both repaid.
on a personal note:Thank you to the community, the support was tremendous and I tried not to make it a witch hunt, and I know some Mods look down on this type of posting, but I felt it was being ignored and the post did bring 2 more people in who had the exact same thing happen. If everything is quietly handled, it allows the person to do it again, and then after that, maybe getting banned. If it's brought into the light I believe it serves the community better. If this happened to me, I went on vacation and left it all up to someone, I would feel horrible and give out as much info as possible. I don't want people to think I'm dishonest went I am not. It's not a matter of "IDGAF!!" it's a matter of "that's not who I am and I'll clear my name".
I'm baffled on how his account hasn't been banned (disabled and reenabled 2 times though). While, sure, this may have been all some big misunderstanding by some miracle of coincidences. Other members have been perma-banned for less. He made threats in a thread that was deleted by mods, made light of the situations, and was very combative and offered no forward explanation to anyone involved, only stating "if they want an explanation they can PM me" for someone who took 3 peoples money and then lost all contact with them, coming back with that attitude is shocking to say the least.
Thanks for filling us in.
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Glad peeps got their cash back and the one dude got a phone. Shady situation the whole way around.
I also want to thank everyone for their support. It's nice to know they're are good people on here since I am relatively new.
Thanks again
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Thanks for filling us in.
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And thanks for all the freaking lulz that were had (so strangely, based on the subject matter) by all.
Locked or not, that was an absolute XDA classic.
<<work in progress>>
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And thanks for all the freaking lulz that were had (so strangely, based on the subject matter) by all.
Locked or not, that was an absolute XDA classic.
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That was an epic thread Felacio. Even though it was a serios matter.... I had a lot of lols (polarbear .. thanks Sarge ).
Thanks for filling us in buddy!
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Great to hear things got settled finally. And yes, like everyone else said, that thread was the bomb.
Thanks for filling everyone in. I'm glad the one guy got a phone and the other two got their money back. Hopefully your friend doesn't think badly of the community now.
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Thanks for filling everyone in. I'm glad the one guy got a phone and the other two got their money back. Hopefully your friend doesn't think badly of the community now.
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I don't think he does. I told him about the thread and how crazy it got with support and ****. He got that it was just the one guy who was being shady.
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I don't think he does. I told him about the thread and how crazy it got with support and ****. He got that it was just the one guy who was being shady.
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Because Jaywan's account is still NOT BANNED, I'm PM'd a MOD to see if he can take care of it (ie perma banning that fool)
I believe the mods have better things to do than permaban his retarded ass. Like banning people for posting bad pictures or threating banning for using bad language or for flaming or arguing. Cause that's much worse than some dip**** that steals peoples money and shows how much of a douche he is.
Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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I'm noticing that.
Tell a mod to "**** Off" = Perma Ban.
Steal money/commit fraud on members = Welcome back.
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Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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Maybe not banned... but something has happened to him since his last post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19052374#post19052374 was over 2 weeks ago. Maybe someone made good on their threat?
Mike
I noticed in the Wanting to Sell forum there is a way to leave feedback on a user. Felacio, you should leave some negative feedback on him so he doesn't try this stuff in the future.
Good to see everything got resolved man, that old thread was epic! Bear **** punch ftw!
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A thread to end all the hopes of others.
I went to best buy on my lunch break 12pm east. Asked for my Tbolt and they said Verizon has delayed it and no date is known yet.
So there you have it.
I got my $50 back because I really didn't even want to support Best Buy anyway, I hope they go out of business, I f*ing hate that store.*(not because they didnt have my tbolt)
Don't believe rumors other people post from talking to CSR. Lets face it folks, most people hired at Best Buy don't know their own head from their ass, so any info received from them is just be considered untrue.
Cool story bro.
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Thanks for acknowledging.
What are you like 10 years old? Take your fag troll **** elsewhere.
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A thread to end all the hopes of others.
I went to best buy on my lunch break 12pm east. Asked for my Tbolt and they said Verizon has delayed it and no date is known yet.
So there you have it.
I got my $50 back because I really didn't even want to support Best Buy anyway, I hope they go out of business, I f*ing hate that store.*(not because they didnt have my tbolt)
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OMG I can't believe this. So now instead of having tons of threads confirming dates we are starting threads unconfirming dates. Can't we just keep this to one thread.
For God Sake where is the MOD for the Thunderbolt thread!!
No offense to you in particular OP
Don't have to read them.
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TNS201 said:
A thread to end all the hopes of others.
I went to best buy on my lunch break 12pm east. Asked for my Tbolt and they said Verizon has delayed it and no date is known yet.
So there you have it.
I got my $50 back because I really didn't even want to support Best Buy anyway, I hope they go out of business, I f*ing hate that store.*(not because they didnt have my tbolt)
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Join the club.
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How do I get my $50 back? When I pre-ordered, they gave me a $50 gift card and a receipt. I went in yesterday to return it and cancel my pre-order. They told me they couldn't refund the gift card. Did you get the gift card too?
- Rob
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OMG I can't believe this. So now instead of having tons of threads confirming dates we are starting threads unconfirming dates. Can't we just keep this to one thread.
For God Sake where is the MOD for the Thunderbolt thread!!
No offense to you in particular OP
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This is a thread to end all. No need to post in every "Tbolt releases Feb 14th thread"
Also mods on XDA don't do much here. With so many forums to moderate, and not enough mods, stuff takes awhile to be taken care of, if ever at all...
Your working you way on a ban with that talk,
Andrew has to mod two forums so don't complain
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How do I get my $50 back? When I pre-ordered, they gave me a $50 gift card and a receipt. I went in yesterday to return it and cancel my pre-order. They told me they couldn't refund the gift card. Did you get the gift card too?
- Rob
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Take it to the service desk, say I want my refund because you lied and said my phone would be here and its the 14th and no phone. I want my money back and will take my business to Verizon.
You dont have to say all that, but you can just say you want your money back because the phone didn't show. Don't let them feed you any ****. Just start *****ing. Best Buy employees are dumb in general. They hire people that don't know jack **** about electronics.
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Don't have to read them.
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The problem isn't the english used in the posts that is why I don't have a problem reading them. The problem is their existence and the unnecessary threads crowding of this section of xda. Although I guess complaining about it will bring no solution either so... I guess it will be what it will be.
It will settle down when the phone comes out.
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Yea you are right... I guess the fact that i've seen all of these threads indicates i'm either really bored or i'm looking forward to this phone just as much as everyone else.
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Yea you are right... I guess the fact that i've seen all of these threads indicates i'm either really bored or i'm looking forward to this phone just as much as everyone else.
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yea don't worry so much about it. Soon the forum will be flooded with noob questions and noobs posting in the wrong section. Look at the dInc section of the forum..
This the first time a forum has been this crazy over a phone, and it won't be the last.
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Once the phone comes out most of my time will be in the Thundertbolt Development and Hacking thread, the noobs can have the General section.
Well, time to get back to work.
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Lol thanks for the information everyone but I'm not new here lol. I have not seen this many threads pop up in 2 days and I had the incredible on release day as I had most winmo phones (with keyboards of course) on release days. I guess I'm just surprised by this many threads. I bet the EVO section was this way before release. Maybe the HD2 as well.. I dunno
http://www.enn.ie/bwire_stories/show/3253547
looks like BB extended the buyback program to the 26th. What a specific date..
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http://www.enn.ie/bwire_stories/show/3253547
looks like BB extended the buyback program to the 26th. What a specific date..
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That program is a ripoff
For a phone under $350 its $40...
For a phone over $350 think it was $50-60.
Just another scam by best buy.
but for a $749 phone retail, 12-18 months later its worth 225 or 150 18-24 months which is why I think they're pushing it with the thunderbolt. For less expensive phones it obviously wouldn't be worth it as much
I wanted to help net get a 3d so he can work on making a bomb kernel for our Phones once we get root! Because we will get root eventually! Anywhozle please state your donation and stay true to it, anything will help.... he said himself he will try to work on it. When I asked if he wanted the help in getting the fone, he modestly replied:
netarchy: "ticklemepinks, that's a loaded question heh, I won't turn it down, but I'm not going to solicit people about it either. if I get the phone, I'll work on it is about all I will say in that regard"
Price: $469.99 (AMAZON PRICE i've been told)
Donations (6/30/11): $200 (WOW IN 2 DAYS, Gr8 guys Keep it coming!!!!!)
CLICK HERE TO DONATE AND CHECK GOAL STATUS TOO
http://netarchyevo3d.chipin.com/evo-3d
Since We are ROOTED NOW donate what you can, ANything Helps!!!! ))))
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I've edited a previous post of mine on the first page, but I'm going to repost it here as well in case anyone misses it.
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Since this thread has apparently been relocated, and the issues I raised with the original approach the OP took have been fixed, I can confirm that any donations going through the chipin link in the original posters post are indeed being directed at me for the purposes of raising funds to acquire an Evo 3D.
If the community sees fit to buy me the phone, I will be happy to develop for it, but I will not promise unrealistic miracles.
I can't promise that you'll suddenly win the lottery, or have better luck in life.
I can promise that any android device I own will get development time from me (yes that includes kernel development).
You should not feel obligated in any way to participate. The fact is, even if I don't get the phone, there is inevitably going to be a strong development community behind this phone. A good portion of teamwin have the phone, and given the strong sales it's a safe bet that there will be many other developers as well. Any participation in the OP fundraiser should be considered completely voluntary; I will not solicit anyone in this regard.
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I really am trying to figure out if this is violation of the rules of XDA. I see what you are trying to do, but others may not.
Also I believe this shouldn't be here either, but we'll leave those who have power to decide. Be prepared for people who are going to be rude.
Good luck!
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I wanted to help net get a 3d so he can work on making bomb kernels for our fones once we get root! cuz we will get root! lol but anywhozle plz state ur donation and stay tru to it, anything will help.... he said himself he will try to work on it. When I asked if he wanted the help in getting the fone, he modestly replied:
netarchy: "ticklemepinks, that's a loaded question heh, I won't turn it down, but I'm not going to solicit people about it either. if I get the phone, I'll work on it is about all I will say in that regard"
Start your Donations!!!! ))))
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Seriously? Need to stop and remove this garbage
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Language butchery is an art.
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Language butchery is an art.
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Language butchery is A art.
DDiaz007 said:
I really am trying to figure out if this is violation of the rules of XDA. I see what you are trying to do, but others may not.
Also I believe this shouldn't be here either, but we'll leave those who have power to decide. Be prepared for people who are going to be rude.
Good luck!
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I hope not, totally not tryin to break any rules or rub the wrong way, just trying to help, so mods if need be please remove thread. I'm sooooo not trying to start any trouble.
no head hurts after reading that
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I wanted to help net get a 3d so he can work on making a bomb kernel for our Phones once we get root! Because we will get root eventually! Anywhozle please state your donation and stay true to it, anything will help.... he said himself he will try to work on it. When I asked if he wanted the help in getting the fone, he modestly replied:
netarchy: "ticklemepinks, that's a loaded question heh, I won't turn it down, but I'm not going to solicit people about it either. if I get the phone, I'll work on it is about all I will say in that regard"
Start your Donations!!!! ))))
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It's nice what your doing but I think the link should come down. We all know how to send him donations. I have sent in many in the past to other developers.
I would like to do the same for Mik but we can't have a post for every dev. Im sure you see why they don't want us to post things like this.
Good luck with your mission..
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EDIT: Since this thread has apparently been relocated, and the issues I raised with the original approach the OP took have been fixed, I can confirm that any donations going through the chipin link in the original posters post are indeed being directed at me for the purposes of raising funds to acquire an Evo 3D.
I will be happy to develop for it, but I will not promise unrealistic miracles.
I can't promise that you'll suddenly win the lottery, or have better luck in life.
I can promise that if I'm able to get the phone, it will get kernel development efforts from me.
You should not feel obligated in any way to participate. The fact is, even if I don't get the phone, there is inevitably going to be a strong development community behind this phone. A good portion of teamwin have the phone, and given the strong sales it's a safe bet that there will be many other developers as well. Any participation in the OP fundraiser should be considered completely voluntary; I will not solicit anyone in this regard.
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Ok, if you want to do some kind of fundraiser type thing to get me a phone to work on, I won't turn it down (I'm no fool!), but you should do something with a defined goal and visible progress, not a post with my direct donation link.
The way you've got this at the moment does not look particularly good; there's no way for anyone to know what the total raised is, etc.
Also, this is probably in the wrong forum.
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Netarchy do you even want the 3D?
If you do then awesome and can't wait.
Why $549? you can get them new for $450 off CL or from me or from ebay so why $549?
What's with all the hate for this idea?
Net is one of my favorite developers and I can only WISH he would join the 3D family.
And how is this against the rules? This is done in every other phone section.. whats wrong with being here??
This forum is getting duller by the post.
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Netarchy do you even want the 3D?
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It'd be a fun phone to work on sure ;D If I were a rich man I'd prolly own most of the phones from all the carriers.
arozer said:
What's with all the hate for this idea?
Net is one of my favorite developers and I can only WISH he would join the 3D family.
And how is this against the rules? This is done in every other phone section.. whats wrong with being here??
This forum is getting duller by the post.
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I do not care if they do this i just see no reason to raise $549.00 when you can get the same thing for $400 to $450 elsewhere.
The op just did it wrong i think is why many are upset because no way to track how much and my reason why $549? that is sprints over priced price not what you can get them for.
Id use 1 of my upgrades and sell it for $425 bingo saved 100$ already.See what i mean by the op? he just did it wrong is all.
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Why $549? you can get them new for $450 off CL or from me or from ebay so why $549?
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I just took the retail price off sprint.com cuz net is a verizon customer and not sprint, but if it's found somewhere cheaper great!!!! but Idk if we will raise funds soon enuff to get a CL or Ebay Evo 3D, so that was my reasoning
This thread should be removed. Where are the evo 3d moderators?? The development section has a lot of garbage in it
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I just took the retail price off sprint.com cuz net is a verizon customer and not sprint, but if it's found somewhere cheaper great!!!! but Idk if we will raise funds soon enuff to get a CL or Ebay Evo 3D, so that was my reasoning
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Isn't netarchy on tmob with a nexus s?
I admit that I groaned when I saw this thread but I have to say that I applaud the idea. Maybe a better method could be suggested? I have no idea what that is though. I know this has been done in the past but, to be honest, I've never paid much attention to "donation" threads.
I would be happy to donate $$ to get netarchy this phone. Not just to get him to root it, but for all he's given to this community!
sent my $5. i know it isnt much, but every lil bit helps
wait would he be coming over from Verizon? sprint gives 125 for jumping carriers and the 3VO is only 200 on new plans...they might even buy his old/other phone from him....im not sure if they will from another carrier but they bought my evo 4g back from me for 150. Phone only cost me 50 bucks.
People are following package trucks and if no one answers and they leave it they will steal your package.
Hooray more pointless scaremongering threads! Because this is totally constructive and worth pointing out! Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the community.
Atleast I got your post count up by one. I just heard it on the news just thought Id let people know that are getting it shipped.
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Atleast I got your post count up by one. I just heard it on the news just thought Id let people know that are getting it shipped.
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What, on Faux News? I usually enjoy the odd thread, but this one truly is useless.
I also hear that if we have a nuclear holocaust it might delay the Prime launch.
O Noes!!
*runs to cancel pre-order.
These comments are totally useless too
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These comments are totally useless too
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Said Mr. Pot to Mr. Kettle. You should have put the thread title in all caps. That would have made it even more inflamatory and likely to get people to read it. And there's no more risk of packages left without signature being stolen today then before you saw a news story. Unless of course this post and the news story put the idea in people who otherwise wouldn't have thought about's heads.
Dude when the world ends in 2012 who is going to cover my warranty?
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Dude when the world ends in 2012 who is going to cover my warranty?
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I'm with this guy. Is there a mayan sub clause in my warranty? Cause if the worlds ending i better be able to blog thru it
yeah I didnt get the whole story ive been trying to find it but cant find it.
or UPS can be dicks like they were to me today
i waited all day for a few packages and he didn't even come by.. but labeled all the shipments as "first attempt made" cause he wanted to go home and skip me
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or UPS can be dicks like they were to me today
i waited all day for a few packages and he didn't even come by.. but labeled all the shipments as "first attempt made" cause he wanted to go home and skip me
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Or when they delivered $1500 printer in original box, with make, model, picture, etc on the box. They didn't feel like lifting it up 1 flight of stairs and left it by the door or a private house. And this is not in suburbia. It was basically sitting on a Brooklyn street.
Actually this is how my wifes Black Friday transformer was left and it has worried me since then. Since when was signature not required he norm.
Hey all if you don't mind giving me your address and estimated ship date I'll come by your place and "watch" for the package for you!!!!
He he he he
xGary said:
Dude when the world ends in 2012 who is going to cover my warranty?
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Oh damn. I forgot the world was ending next year. I may save this Prime money for heroin and escorts.
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Hooray more pointless scaremongering threads! Because this is totally constructive and worth pointing out! Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the community.
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i don't know why everyone has this idea like every thread should be should be something special.
i for one am glad to know this, i doubt it will happen to mine, but ill be extra careful.
blaziner, no offense but you are definitely the worst offender when it comes to creating pointless threads...lol. I will give you credit though, some of them have been oddly, and I mean very oddly, well received. You created the 'your hype level' thread, no? That was maybe the most pointless thread I think that I have ever seen created in all of my many many years on the Internet and yes I was an adult when the Internet first became popular (barely). That said people seemed to like it and wanted to come by and say how hyped they were on a scale from 1 to 10. How can you argue with that? Carry on my pointless friend.
I should qualify this post with the fact that I have also seen some constructive posts from you as well. Maybe not threads but at least a few posts. And I don't mean this post as an insult in any way either. I know it can sound that way sometimes on these internets.
Pretty sure the world ending would void the warranty, as that is an "Act of God" and specifically excluded from coverage.
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Hooray more pointless scaremongering threads! Because this is totally constructive and worth pointing out! Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the community.
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You're thread crapping and you have the nerve to talk about pointless threads and invaluable contributions? This coming from a member with 39 posts in a one year span? Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the rules and regs before you decide to post replies like this. XDA no likey thread crappers.
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Seriously. I just jaw a post on thriveforums.org and it worked. I just downloaded the app, opened the app, went to register, created my account and a pop up came up confirming my lifetime upgrade. Spread the word. It's from Feb 23-Mar23.
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Seriously. I just jaw a post on thriveforums.org and it worked. I just downloaded the app, opened the app, went to register, created my account and a pop up came up confirming my lifetime upgrade. Spread the word. It's from Feb 23-Mar23
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that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
anonymous_XI said:
that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
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Good call. Just tried uploading nrg rom and exceeded... Fml
I guess dropbox keeps me for now
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that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
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How do you know since you just set up your membership a couple days ago?
Wait... nevermind. I just searched your ip address. I know who you are. You're supposed to be banned from the forums for trolling. I guess we'll just have to extend it. Here's some advice, don't play the moderators for fools.
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How do you know since you just set up your membership a couple days ago?
Wait... nevermind. I just searched your ip address. I know who you are. You're supposed to be banned from the forums for trolling. I guess we'll just have to extend it. Here's some advice, don't play the moderators for fools.
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wow seriously now, only xda memberships know about android offers? funny mod! and since you are such a smartass, 1: the ban counts for the email address not for the whole ip address. 2: there is no 100% guarantee the same ip address is being used by the same person, maybe multiple users using same computer 3: I can always use a software to change my ip address and you my dear moderator can do nothing is just an xda membership, there are more important things in life so stop acting like I am going to miss a lot even if you extend the ban p.s I have 2 other memberships, wanna bet you can't find them "mister love2bprivatedetector.com"?
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wow seriously now, only xda memberships know about android offers? funny mod! and since you are such a smartass, 1: the ban counts for the email address not for the whole ip address. 2: there is no 100% guarantee the same ip address is being used by the same person, maybe multiple users using same computer 3: I can always use a software to change my ip address and you my dear moderator can do nothing is just an xda membership, there are more important things in life so stop acting like I am going to miss a lot even if you extend the ban p.s I have 2 other memberships, wanna bet you can't find them "mister love2bprivatedetector.com"?
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That's fine. We'll ban those too. We love a challenge Felinos11.
Binary100100 said:
That's fine. We'll ban those too. We love a challenge Felinos11.
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^ what a boss.
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^ what a boss.
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You can change a trolls name but you can't change the way he looks.
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You can change a trolls name but you can't change the way he looks.
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So we all know who he is, and yes he is a troll with nothing better to do (obviously has no life outside of xda), but he did have a point and his remark did actually help this time (believe it or not). I did not know about the upload limit, and although Feline11 was trying to be a troll, he actually helped.
I know Binary and Whisky know how I feel about Feline11, and I still say ban his IP address and subsequent IPs that will certainly follow. Anyone that will create multiple email accounts just to troll forums has serious mental issues that should seek professional attention asap... Especially at his young age.
Thanks for calling a spade a spade Binary. Sounds like a reincarnation of another "...Jr." troll. They don't die, they multiply lol
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So we all know who he is, and yes he is a troll with nothing better to do (obviously has no life outside of xda), but he did have a point and his remark did actually help this time (believe it or not). I did not know about the upload limit, and although Feline11 was trying to be a troll, he actually helped.
I know Binary and Whisky know how I feel about Feline11, and I still say ban his IP address and subsequent IPs that will certainly follow. Anyone that will create multiple email accounts just to troll forums has serious mental issues that should seek professional attention asap... Especially at his young age.
Thanks for calling a spade a spade Binary. Sounds like a reincarnation of another "...Jr." troll. They don't die, they multiply lol
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I don't care if he helped. He's been a member for a long time and he went very far out of his way to make us think that he was a new member. He even asked a very noobish question something of the lines of "If I take the sdcard out of my phone will it break recovery?" and we both know that he knows better than that. We need honest members that intend to help eachother. Not members that are going to deceive others and turn against them like a stray dog. He was given a punishment for his action and he should be mature enough to face it and not to go around it. We don't just ban people just because we feel like it because if that was the case we would have totally different forum with totallly different moderators. We try to be fair to the members at all times. Is it too much to ask that we get treated with the respect that we deserve rather than trying to insult our intelligence? His ip address was banned and barred from registration as well as his e-mail addresses but I have a gut feeling that we'll be seeing him again. But the good thing is that we have other means to detect those type of accounts other than ip addresses and all we need to do is look. And to look all we need to do is suspect that something isn't right. Obviously in this case something didn't fit right with me and that's why I took a closer look thus unveiling his real identity. He may not have been trolling but it would have only been a matter of time until he did. Remember that the problem isn't his username, it's his attitude and that is nearly impossible for him to change otherwise he would have done so by now.
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I don't care if he helped. He's been a member for a long time and he went very far out of his way to make us think that he was a new member. He even asked a very noobish question something of the lines of "If I take the sdcard out of my phone will it break recovery?" and we both know that he knows better than that. We need honest members that intend to help eachother. Not members that are going to deceive others and turn against them like a stray dog. He was given a punishment for his action and he should be mature enough to face it and not to go around it. We don't just ban people just because we feel like it because if that was the case we would have totally different forum with totallly different moderators. We try to be fair to the members at all times. Is it too much to ask that we get treated with the respect that we deserve rather than trying to insult our intelligence? His ip address was banned and barred from registration as well as his e-mail addresses but I have a gut feeling that we'll be seeing him again. But the good thing is that we have other means to detect those type of accounts other than ip addresses and all we need to do is look. And to look all we need to do is suspect that something isn't right. Obviously in this case something didn't fit right with me and that's why I took a closer look thus unveiling his real identity. He may not have been trolling but it would have only been a matter of time until he did. Remember that the problem isn't his username, it's his attitude and that is nearly impossible for him to change otherwise he would have done so by now.
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cant agree with this anymore. he would randomly help out, then troll, help, then troll, ask questions, and then troll for getting flammed..
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cant agree with this anymore. he would randomly help out, then troll, help, then troll, ask questions, and then troll for getting flammed..
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Right and that's the kind of habits that we look for. That kind of suspicious behavior or an unusual post like what popped up earlier when it drew my suspicion is what causes us to have a closer look. It's really easy for us to look for duplicate accounts. Now it IS possible that a new account can be opened up with another members previously used ip address but even in that situation is pretty rare. But what's even more rare is when he's banned on the 21st and a new account is opened on the 23rd and both members post in the same forum. I think the odds of that happening would be like being attacked by a great white shark on a Detroit metro bus that's actually running on time. Neither will ever happen and for both to happen at the same time... there's just no way. Yet he's surprised that I caught it? Naive little fool.
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Right and that's the kind of habits that we look for. That kind of suspicious behavior or an unusual post like what popped up earlier when it drew my suspicion is what causes us to have a closer look. It's really easy for us to look for duplicate accounts. Now it IS possible that a new account can be opened up with another members previously used ip address but even in that situation is pretty rare. But what's even more rare is when he's banned on the 21st and a new account is opened on the 23rd and both members post in the same forum. I think the odds of that happening would be like being attacked by a great white shark on a Detroit metro bus that's actually running on time. Neither will ever happen and for both to happen at the same time... there's just no way. Yet he's surprised that I caught it? Naive little fool.
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haha you'd think he would be a little more smart about doing it at least.. if i was a troll id go to starbucks and use their wifi or something lmao, good thing im not though.
Wasn't trying to defend him... Believe me. I took my only infraction ever over his trolling and went many rounds with him the other night when he was banned. I'm glad he's gone and appreciate the Mods like Binary and Whisky for keeping this thread clean.
On another note, since this is useless with it being 100mb file size dealy, should we maybe just close the thread?
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glacierguy said:
Wasn't trying to defend him... Believe me. I took my only infraction ever over his trolling and went many rounds with him the other night when he was banned. I'm glad he's gone and appreciate the Mods like Binary and Whisky for keeping this thread clean.
On another note, since this is useless with it being 100mb file size dealy, should we maybe just close the thread?
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You're the OP so I'll gladly close it if you like.
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You're the OP so I'll gladly close it if you like.
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I feel powerful... What shall I do with the newly found power I have as op... Muahahah... Ok close it down
Thanks
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Without a desktop sync software I find box really useless so I prefer to use the 5GB dropbox instead. If Box could get with the times I would use it but I guess no money in it for them to offer it free.
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Without a desktop sync software I find box really useless so I prefer to use the 5GB dropbox instead. If Box could get with the times I would use it but I guess no money in it for them to offer it free.
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Me too
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Felinos11 was a complete ignoramus. I have been here a short while and been rounds with the kid. I was amazed at how many other people he got into it with.
You can tell he is just an immature kid.
Thanks for ridding us of him, till his next alter ego pops up.
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JesseMT4G said:
Felinos11 was a complete ignoramus. I have been here a short while and been rounds with the kid. I was amazed at how many other people he got into it with.
You can tell he is just an immature kid.
Thanks for ridding us of him, till his next alter ego pops up.
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Trust me, it was my pleasure!
Closing the tread now per OP request.
To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
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To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Yeah, it is definitely a possibility that that is the case. The whole reason I posted this is because it has been so long since we heard anything from either of them.
Perhaps they have been PMing instead of going at it in a thread since it was such a heated discussion before.
I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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true, but I'm also thinking that this may be possible, that this could be the way to unlock the bootloader without having to buy another phone. Maybe i'm being too optimistic about this, but that's just how I feel, and how I was raised. Maybe this has to do with me being screwed over by a girl I was in love with because she moved onto her "high school sweetheart," and me wearing my heart on my sleeve, but that's just life. I'm trying to get the best out of my phone until I can upgrade to the GNex or the next best thing, but as of right now, I'm going to see this to the end and if that means I'm going to get hurt again "over a phone" then so be it. I'm going into this to optimistic, too involved, but oh well, that's me not you.
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I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
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Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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It was in the BBB Complaint thread by Litetaker on page 11, it goes off for about 9 pages and then gets back on topic.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Because of that 1% nobody knows if she is right or wrong. NOBODY. You cannot say she is wrong without knowing the facts yourself and why not hold onto that glimmer of hope, if you read the original post I did ask for opinions, but I did not ask for your opinion on the validity of threads.
I see that you agree that this is most likely false, but it was taking up a lot of space in a different thread and I for one am interested enough to try to find out more.
I told everyone I am willing to attempt all of the tests once the soak/actuall update come out so if we can unlock the bootloader before that even happens I would be in heaven, I hate Moto Blur....
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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You are correct, I am hoping she is right and that it is an exe and we can somehow apply it to the X2.
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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Lol man I did not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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Lol man I did not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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I hear you, I am so tired of this things lag and other massive issues
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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I sent her a PM this morning, hopefully we get an answer sometime today.
"I'm getting too old for this ****".
Its been almost a year since release and they've been yanking us around. The only way I'll have an unlocked phone anytime soon is if I get a free one from my complaint to BBB.
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Dunno who that coulda been
I may have gone a little overboard with the flaming, but she hit a nerve. Not getting into it again, just wanted to apologize.
Nah, I'm kidding. Good riddance.
Even ignoring the insults between myself and her, I don't think it's debatable at this point whether or not she's a troll (or equally possible: horribly, horribly confused).
I think my summary from that thread summed it up pretty efficiently.
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So let me recap.
We have an illiterate Droid Razr owner posting on the Droid X2 forums about talking on the phone with a Verizon representative about an unlocked bootloader (even though Verizon doesn't do jack **** with android) for their phone, which is a Razr, even though she claims it will work for an X2 (actually she hasnt, she just posts about it in the X2 forums. The ****?). This person tells us that the unlock our phones, and it will come alongside an ICS distro at the end of April.
Okay, cool, I didn't believe a word of it, but that at least is a possibility worth considering. That is, until they posted more information.
So as we ask her more about why she's in our forums and why the Verizon rep would have this information (keep in mind, a rep would never have this information if even Motorola reps don't), and she drops a bombshell: she's got an unlocked bootloader. OUT OF ****ING NOWHERE. Not ONCE before this did she care to mention she was unlocked. This contradicts everything she said before this; why does she have it now if it's coming at the end of April.
Alright, let's move on.
So apparently, she found this bootloader unlock on the Verizon site. Again, this contradicts her own story in more ways than I care to mention. Not only that, but Verizon would NOT be in possession of such a tool. It's not as if they even know how to work with Android; they are a service provider!
And finally, she presents us with a file she claims she found on the Verizon site (which she did not) and that it will allow us to unlock our bootloader by entering (this is what I could decipher) a series of ones and then a string of 7 random numbers and letters.
K. I don't know why anyone is still trying. This is worthless. It seems I'm the only voice of reason whenever people try to troll us. This is what, the third time? Fourth? I can't remember.
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Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
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Are you serious you post a thread asking for peoples opinions on this and then you want me to not post because you don't like my opinion, or because it isn't what you intended for people to post? What you posted in your thread left this open for discussion. My opinion is its complete BS. Like someone said if we get an unlocked boot loader someone will have the tool or the means and post it. Not dance around answers and complain about migraines. Why even feed into it?
Also yes I do have a gnex but I still have my x2 and use it frequently at home. I too want an unlocked bootloader.
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