To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
gaad0701 said:
To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
ztotherad said:
I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Yeah, it is definitely a possibility that that is the case. The whole reason I posted this is because it has been so long since we heard anything from either of them.
Perhaps they have been PMing instead of going at it in a thread since it was such a heated discussion before.
I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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tkuligowski said:
I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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true, but I'm also thinking that this may be possible, that this could be the way to unlock the bootloader without having to buy another phone. Maybe i'm being too optimistic about this, but that's just how I feel, and how I was raised. Maybe this has to do with me being screwed over by a girl I was in love with because she moved onto her "high school sweetheart," and me wearing my heart on my sleeve, but that's just life. I'm trying to get the best out of my phone until I can upgrade to the GNex or the next best thing, but as of right now, I'm going to see this to the end and if that means I'm going to get hurt again "over a phone" then so be it. I'm going into this to optimistic, too involved, but oh well, that's me not you.
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I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
litetaker said:
I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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It was in the BBB Complaint thread by Litetaker on page 11, it goes off for about 9 pages and then gets back on topic.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
thelowend said:
Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Because of that 1% nobody knows if she is right or wrong. NOBODY. You cannot say she is wrong without knowing the facts yourself and why not hold onto that glimmer of hope, if you read the original post I did ask for opinions, but I did not ask for your opinion on the validity of threads.
I see that you agree that this is most likely false, but it was taking up a lot of space in a different thread and I for one am interested enough to try to find out more.
I told everyone I am willing to attempt all of the tests once the soak/actuall update come out so if we can unlock the bootloader before that even happens I would be in heaven, I hate Moto Blur....
Skelente said:
Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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You are correct, I am hoping she is right and that it is an exe and we can somehow apply it to the X2.
Skelente said:
Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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Lol man I did not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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Lol man I did not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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I hear you, I am so tired of this things lag and other massive issues
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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I sent her a PM this morning, hopefully we get an answer sometime today.
"I'm getting too old for this ****".
Its been almost a year since release and they've been yanking us around. The only way I'll have an unlocked phone anytime soon is if I get a free one from my complaint to BBB.
ztotherad said:
I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Dunno who that coulda been
I may have gone a little overboard with the flaming, but she hit a nerve. Not getting into it again, just wanted to apologize.
Nah, I'm kidding. Good riddance.
Even ignoring the insults between myself and her, I don't think it's debatable at this point whether or not she's a troll (or equally possible: horribly, horribly confused).
I think my summary from that thread summed it up pretty efficiently.
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So let me recap.
We have an illiterate Droid Razr owner posting on the Droid X2 forums about talking on the phone with a Verizon representative about an unlocked bootloader (even though Verizon doesn't do jack **** with android) for their phone, which is a Razr, even though she claims it will work for an X2 (actually she hasnt, she just posts about it in the X2 forums. The ****?). This person tells us that the unlock our phones, and it will come alongside an ICS distro at the end of April.
Okay, cool, I didn't believe a word of it, but that at least is a possibility worth considering. That is, until they posted more information.
So as we ask her more about why she's in our forums and why the Verizon rep would have this information (keep in mind, a rep would never have this information if even Motorola reps don't), and she drops a bombshell: she's got an unlocked bootloader. OUT OF ****ING NOWHERE. Not ONCE before this did she care to mention she was unlocked. This contradicts everything she said before this; why does she have it now if it's coming at the end of April.
Alright, let's move on.
So apparently, she found this bootloader unlock on the Verizon site. Again, this contradicts her own story in more ways than I care to mention. Not only that, but Verizon would NOT be in possession of such a tool. It's not as if they even know how to work with Android; they are a service provider!
And finally, she presents us with a file she claims she found on the Verizon site (which she did not) and that it will allow us to unlock our bootloader by entering (this is what I could decipher) a series of ones and then a string of 7 random numbers and letters.
K. I don't know why anyone is still trying. This is worthless. It seems I'm the only voice of reason whenever people try to troll us. This is what, the third time? Fourth? I can't remember.
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gaad0701 said:
Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
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Are you serious you post a thread asking for peoples opinions on this and then you want me to not post because you don't like my opinion, or because it isn't what you intended for people to post? What you posted in your thread left this open for discussion. My opinion is its complete BS. Like someone said if we get an unlocked boot loader someone will have the tool or the means and post it. Not dance around answers and complain about migraines. Why even feed into it?
Also yes I do have a gnex but I still have my x2 and use it frequently at home. I too want an unlocked bootloader.
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but anyone have status on rooting the v3 leak or the others?
Your being that guy....
Feel sure it would be top thread if there was any info. Not trying to be an a$$ just keeping the forum clean.
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Your being that guy....
Feel sure it would be top thread if there was any info. Not trying to be an a$$ just keeping the forum clean.
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well yeah but sometimes i feel like devs might be holding out on us (no offense to anyone). and maybe they have figured out how too but its unstable or something
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well yeah but sometimes i feel like devs might be holding out on us (no offense to anyone). and maybe they have figured out how too but its unstable or something
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maybe its because of ppl like you they are holding out. do you think yuo asking in yet another thread if its been done its going to make a dev that might be holding out so oh ya, here you go, now i will give it to you?
as stated a zillion times, they will release it when they release it. they enjoy doing this stuff and love to show their work off, so when its done, it will be posted and as stated above, be first post in forum as everyone will be hitting it up
lol kevlar very well said. im sure there are tons of ppl waiting and to post numerous threads asking isnt going to make it available any faster..it will be done when its done. glad i waited for root and didnt jump the gun on leak
Its funny if you think about it. They couldn't wait for root and used the leak, now they are being impatient about root on the leak. How can anybody win with these people?
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Well, not everyone who upgraded realized it was a leak and not root, thus, being very interested in finding an exploit. When a popular site that is all about unlocking phones has a tutorial that has you install the leak first then you become SOL. That being said, there are already threads just like this on the next page making this quite redundant.
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Its funny if you think about it. They couldn't wait for root and used the leak, now they are being impatient about root on the leak. How can anybody win with these people?
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To quash some of the preconcived notions that the Devs screwed you all into putting Leak on and waiting it out..There are at least 4 I know of and I was a tester for one of them and we all have leak. I went another route and you all had the same opportunity to do the same so winning and moaning about the leak root won't Make it happen faster.
JCase, Jamezelle, Framework(I think), Me, Captainkirk TheFuzz we all had leak v1 on our phones first to test if it was ok. Mistakes are made and that is how you find out how it works.
Some one close this thread. It is poison to the Forum.
....but you went there anyhow?
Self loathing ftw?
The devs aren't withholding anything. You are free to come to the irc in channel #root to see what is being worked on.
The reason you don't see a whole lot posted on the forums about it is because the methods we are working with are not simple and there isn't much to say about it. Us posting things will just get more and more people asking about it, which detracts from the actual dev's time that are working on it.
In other words, when root is found, you'll know. PERIOD.
You messed up by installing leak, suck it up and fork out the $90 for a replacement. Not a big deal and you end up looking like an butthead (like me) by asking over and over if its rooted yet. Don't you think the forum would be flipping it's poop if leakers got root? There would be 30 threads about it and they would all probably be on the home page. Keep your pants on and your mouth closed or buy a new phone.
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You ****ed up by installing leak, suck it up and fork out the $90 for a replacement. Not a big deal and you end up looking like an asshole (like me) by asking over and over if its rooted yet. Don't you think the forum would be flipping it's **** if leakers got root? There would be 30 threads about it and they would all probably be on the home page. Keep your pants on and your mouth shut or buy a new phone.
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Ya know man ive seen posts by you all over the place and you have the worst attitude out of everyone here. Fine, i asked a really stupid question, get over it. ITS NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
im surprised youre not banned yet
and to everyone else, sorry to be a nuisance.
Nikolai2.1 said:
Ya know man ive seen posts by you all over the place and you have the worst attitude out of everyone here. Fine, i asked a really stupid question, get over it. ITS NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
im surprised youre not banned yet
and to everyone else, sorry to be a nuisance.
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Yeah yeah yeah, I've read that line a million times. I may word things a little inappropriately but I do think that I say things a couple people would like to. You can't honestly disagree with what I'm saying about if it was rooted then you would know.
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Yeah yeah yeah, I've read that line a million times. I may word things a little inappropriately but I do think that I say things a couple people would like to. You can't honestly disagree with what I'm saying about if it was rooted then you would know.
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Well no man i completely agree and yeah its my fault for jumping the gun but im just saying, chill for a little bit. its just an internet forum, no need to get all pissed off
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Well no man i completely agree and yeah its my fault for jumping the gun but im just saying, chill for a little bit. its just an internet forum, no need to get all pissed off
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I'm not pissed off, I was just stating a point. You're the one who seems to be upset with me.
Sorry if I offended you, I'm not gonna post in this thread anymore, don't want to muck it up.
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I'm not pissed off, I was just stating a point. You're the one who seems to be upset with me.
Sorry if I offended you, I'm not gonna post in this thread anymore, don't want to muck it up.
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Whatever man
Mod close this thread
in b4 404!
Sorry, had to be said.
I have an idea... go back in time and never install the leak... root the phone instead and wait to install jcase's plain jain OTA rom.... hmm, now thats an idea.
You want OTA or root, you shouldn't have installed the leak... you jumped the gun... no ones fault but your own. BTW the devs aren't holding anything back.. well maybe they are, but you may never know! You have been dismissed, Good day sir!
That's enough guys... play nice.
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For the whole month of waiting for S-off the only thing that was going on in here was people complaing and bashing other people. Well now that we have S-off it seems every thread is someone having problems with there phone after they rooted it. It seems to me this is why sprint and htc dont want us toying with these phones. Rooting a phone is suppose to make it better correct? It seeme to me its making the phones worst
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what are you talking about? There's always problems, if you don't wanna read them then stay out the QnA section since that's what there for
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For the whole month of waiting for S-off the only thing that was going on in here was people complaing and bashing other people. Well now that we have S-off it seems every thread is someone having problems with there phone after they rooted it. It seems to me this is why sprint and htc dont want us toying with these phones. Rooting a phone is suppose to make it better correct? It seeme to me its making the phones worst
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welcome to rooting for me
YES its worth it 1000000000%
The forum is usually a place for questions, consumption & troubleshooting. I can post a thread about how happy I am if anyone cares. : p
But yeah that would be why you see what you see.
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Yup problems will be there no matter what but i preffer this threads then stuff about another phone or some problems with the phone itself, love root
And we would have less if people will read more thread or the whole description of how to root and what really is
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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what are you talking about? There's always problems, if you don't wanna read them then stay out the QnA section since that's what there for
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Yea there were some minor problems before root but now look...people losing 4g not being able to send and recieve messages. Web not working. Some batteries got better some peoples phones wont turn on at all lol. But the funny thing is. All these problems people are having from rooting if they dont get fixed there gona go into sprint store complaining.
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Im not lookin to start trouble or discredit the devs who busted there asses to get s-off. But im sure alot of people wanna root dont bc they see all these problems.
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Yea there were some minor problems before root but now look...people losing 4g not being able to send and recieve messages. Web not working. Some batteries got better some peoples phones wont turn on at all lol. But the funny thing is. All these problems people are having from rooting if they dont get fixed there gona go into sprint store complaining.
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I dunno, the "no calls/txt/data" is a problem that is hit-or-miss when you do a hands-free-activation....root or not. It happened to me, took me under 2 minutes to have fixed by Sprint, who did it happily.
People losing 4G? I don't think this network is robust enough to blame that on root...and even if that is in an area with a rock solid 4G signal I still think there may be some user intervention at play that isn't the fault of getting s-off all by it self.
The funky "turning on, or not, or plugged in, or not, or take out battery, or sdcard, or both, or not" problems were there from the begining...I used to think it was only certain phones, but, I think it's all phones in certain conditions. Being s-off and rooted gives us the ability to put the phone into more conditions where that may or may not happen.
...and as far as battery performance is concerned it's nearly impossible to prove that it ISN'T user/application related. I'm not saying it definitely IS their fault, but, it's impossible to prove that...so many conditions vary for your phone so frequently every day even if yours do not that battery life claims are nearly impossible to prove and impossible to refute based on any changed variable all by itself....not to mention a near 100% chance of someone else reporting the exact opposite condition.
...aside from my data going slow after hands-free-activation (which is fixed in 2 minutes) I have experienced none of these problems after rooting...okay, I take that back, I have experienced the "sometimes it turns on while plugged in, sometimes it doesn't"...but, it did that before s-off/root as well.
...and let's not forget that the s-off hack likely has nothing to do with these issues. I have the eng hboot...non-hacked. Just the way god intended. If it is from anything it would be from the rooting of the ROM, which I still doubt.
Honestly, compared to the initial period after the s-off/root exploits releases for other devices this doesn't seem out of the ordinary at all...and no offense meant, but, are you new to this?
EDIT: Oh yeah, to answer your question....yes, s-off and rooting were VERY worth it to me. Now bring on the AOSP
No way. I hate having a better phone
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I want to root my phone. The advantage far outweight the disadvantage? I am going to wait 1 more week.
Oh, I dont have any insurance on my new 3D phone.
Two words: User error. The problems you see are because people do not know what they are doing. Simple as that. Rooting your phone does nothing but give you permission to be able to do what you want to do with "your" phone.
No offense OP. But you sound like a news reporter trying desperately to make a name for himself by finding some giant issue in something that has mostly only brought joy to everyone.
"TONIGHT!!. Jon Andersen goes on localtion to uncover the truth behind...PUPPIES!. what he finds may disgust you to the point of wanting to flush your own puppy. Stay tuned!!"
Are We Not Phones?
We are EVO.
ARE WE NOT PHONES?!
3DEVO!
jayharper08 said:
Two words: User error. The problems you see are because people do not know what they are doing. Simple as that. Rooting your phone does nothing but give you permission to be able to do what you want to do with "your" phone.
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Yeah, that's a really good point. I think that Sprint in general has probably been taking in a lot of new users, likely mostly smartphone users, because of the unlimited data thing...and the fact that Sprint actually has the most compelling collection of smartphones right this second IMHO. Sadly I'm thinking about jumping ship since this signal is just useless to me in most places now, and that's to say nothing of the over-loaded network.
...not to mention the droves of E4G defectors who were following the developers, and the larger and more frequent droves of defectors from every phone from the last generation that want the developer support that the E4G had but they definitely did not see...and then there are all of the people who finally got off of their contract from Heros and Moments from when they were still hot items....
...so, yeah, there is just so many goddamned people in here that I'd be surprised if there weren't more complaints on average. Contrast this to the NookColor forum where there are far more actual tricky problems but nobody blames the root method for them missing a step or not understanding a process...not to mention how god damned civil it is around there.
Yeah, good call...
I dont need to explain myself. You, do not know what the hell you are talking about.
How is improving your phone worse? People ***** when the phone is not rooted..and people ***** when the phone is rooted.
Worst troll post ever.....
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For the whole month of waiting for S-off the only thing that was going on in here was people complaing and bashing other people. Well now that we have S-off it seems every thread is someone having problems with there phone after they rooted it. It seems to me this is why sprint and htc dont want us toying with these phones. Rooting a phone is suppose to make it better correct? It seeme to me its making the phones worst
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To me it was worth it. However I've noticed many issues are because folks don't read, can't follow instructions, make changes without knowing WHAT they are doing.
Sorry but if you don't know what changes you're making, what issues they cause, how to fix, how to undo what you screwed up, then they shouldn't be rooting, flashing and changing settings.
By "you" I don't necessarily mean you, but more of a "folks in general".
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Yeah, that's a really good point. I think that Sprint in general has probably been taking in a lot of new users, likely mostly smartphone users, because of the unlimited data thing...and the fact that Sprint actually has the most compelling collection of smartphones right this second IMHO. Sadly I'm thinking about jumping ship since this signal is just useless to me in most places now, and that's to say nothing of the over-loaded network.
...not to mention the droves of E4G defectors who were following the developers, and the larger and more frequent droves of defectors from every phone from the last generation that want the developer support that the E4G had but they definitely did not see...and then there are all of the people who finally got off of their contract from Heros and Moments from when they were still hot items....
...so, yeah, there is just so many goddamned people in here that I'd be surprised if there weren't more complaints on average. Contrast this to the NookColor forum where there are far more actual tricky problems but nobody blames the root method for them missing a step or not understanding a process...not to mention how god damned civil it is around there.
Yeah, good call...
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Agree with everything you said Dan.
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To me it was worth it. However I've noticed many issues are because folks don't read, can't follow instructions, make changes without knowing WHAT they are doing.
Sorry but if you don't know what changes you're making, what issues they cause, how to fix, how to undo what you screwed up, then they shouldn't be rooting, flashing and changing settings.
By "you" I don't necessarily mean you, but more of a "folks in general".
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Thanks these are the types of non bashing answers i was simply lookin for
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No offense OP. But you sound like a news reporter trying desperately to make a name for himself by finding some giant issue in something that has mostly only brought joy to everyone.
"TONIGHT!!. Jon Andersen goes on localtion to uncover the truth behind...PUPPIES!. what he finds may disgust you to the point of wanting to flush your own puppy. Stay tuned!!"
Are We Not Phones?
We are EVO.
ARE WE NOT PHONES?!
3DEVO!
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Lol tryin to get famous? From xda lol? I could give 2 sh!t$ about that. I have a goddamn life you obviously must not.....i tell you what hop out of this thread and start scrollin down genera and Q&A. Everyones complain root did somethin to there phone
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Lol tryin to get famous? From xda lol? I could give 2 sh!t$ about that. I have a goddamn life you obviously must not.....i tell you what hop out of this thread and start scrollin down genera and Q&A. Everyones complain root did somethin to there phone
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Hey dude, it was a joke... I read your post and that is how it looked to me.
And really?... basing the success of something on a DEVELOPERS forum's Q&A section?
I can pull up every single phones Q&A section and get just as many, probably more issues in the general dates of when they where first rooted/cracked/jailbroken.
Soooooo, chill buddy.
OK guys listen well...
Remember this post?
Apparently not... as you all seem to keep acting like little kids.
I saw yet another locked thread when I logged on today.
As it stands I don't care who is or is not lying, who is or is not a troll, and or who is or is not right. I don't, I simply don't...
If you have issues with someone, just ignore them or stay away from their posts, twitter feeds or websites as the case may be. It would be so much better for us all that way.
Now I don't mind a bit of off topic discussion and threads, but all I am seeing lately is bashing, arguing and trolling.
Let me lay a little something on you... Nobody is owed anything. No Dev owes you ROMs, root, or anything else. Vice versa, no user owes a Dev anything for their work. (paid market apps excluded) The rooting community is a hobby based entity. We work on respect and a mutual love of the platform. Donations are voluntary but a good idea. (It makes Devs feel appreciated)
Another thing... Drama... It kills the community. It runs off users and Devs alike. It creates a hostile environment that no one wants to deal with. When a device looses Devs it can be a death nail to the further development for that device, and when we don't even have a perm root exploit, loosing top Devs is the worst scenario imaginable.
It is getting so bad that even I am getting aggravated, and I could stay calm even with someone punching me in the face...
It is so bad I am giving serious consideration to jumping ship to the Nexus... An (in my opinion) inferior device to the Rezound, just to get away from most of the drama.
Come on people, get your f***ing acts together, and your heads out of your a**es.
Sorry if I come off as a jerk, but something needs to be said/done about all this.
Internet drama...dun dun dun
And how about no more Nexus threads too?
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And how about no more Nexus threads too?
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Eh... its a valid topic to compare phones... but it can get out of hand.
There's always going to be drama no matter what you do and what you say. As much as we would like everyone to grow the F up, that's just not going to happen. Internet forum trolls are here to stay, and frankly this thread is probably giving them what they want... More attention! Sure you can jump ship and go to the Nexus, but I'm pretty damn positive there will be drama there too. Best thing you can do is just ignore the ****, nothing you say or do is going to change what's happening on this forum.
Threads will be closed, another will be opened and get trolled, and probably closed again. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride till S-off happens. I also have alot of popcorn ready!
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There's always going to be drama no matter what you do and what you say. As much as we would like everyone to grow the F up, that's just not going to happen. Internet forum trolls are here to stay, and frankly this thread is probably giving them what they want... More attention! Sure you can jump ship and go to the Nexus, but I'm pretty damn positive there will be drama there too. Best thing you can do is just ignore the ****, nothing you say or do is going to change what's happening on this forum.
Threads will be closed, another will be opened and get trolled, and probably closed again. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride till S-off happens. I also have alot of popcorn ready!
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
Something irked me today... I am just getting sick of the he said she said crap, and other nonsense.
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Eh... its a valid topic to compare phones... but it can get out of hand.
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Agreed, but there's plenty of threads already, no need for more (and by now pretty much all the comparisons have been made and all one needs to do is read). Especially when they're just for the drama, and there have certainly been those here.
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
Something irked me today... I am just getting sick of the he said she said crap, and other nonsense.
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I understand how you feel man. It's just that some people think they're entitled to everything and they want it now. If they don't get it right away then they start having hissy fits. They think they're big and bad and on the top of the world sitting behind their keyboards. Just makes me wonder how they make it through daily life. Best thing really is just to ignore them, don't feed the trolls and eventually they will go away. Sure they'll continue to post and hope to bait a person into a response, but if everyone keeps at it they'll go elsewhere.
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
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I think once s-off is achieved things will calm down and the trolls will find somewhere else to bother people. That's how it was with the EVO 3D forum.
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I was thinking of doing the same thing as the OP, jumping ship to the Nexus. But then I remembered, wait a minute self, the Nexus sucks.
mustbepbs said:
I was thinking of doing the same thing as the OP, jumping ship to the Nexus. But then I remembered, wait a minute self, the Nexus sucks.
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Cosiggity
Sent from a Rezound, crappie camera included.
Hmmm
blestsol said:
Cosiggity
Sent from a Rezound, crappie camera included.
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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LOL, yea that cracks me up everytime I see it (and hardly seems necessary).
The Rezound may not have the worlds best camera, but it's not half bad for a camera phone....
~John
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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Hehehe, I had been thinking the same thing seeing his/her sig in other threads. Not to go OT, but the camera on this phone is soooo much better than my last htc phone. It's NOT a DSLR, but it certainly does a hella good job on image quality for a phone camera. I'm not conplaining..lol .
As for the trolls...bashers...dramateers.. and those well known HUTA's (Head Up Their A**es) ... It will never end. They love fuel, and all people like you and me do is refill the tank. Sure, there were much better times when everything was nicer and most of the posts were filled with posituve and/or constructive feedback. This is the same way all over the internet. But there is no sense in blowing up and attacking those who cause the trouble because it does absolutely no goid at all. I know... I've done this myself and it gets me nowhere. The best thing you can do is to always try and encourage positive feedback. Not everyone will like every commend, post or idea... Not everyone will agree on one thing. Best things to not be doing is bragging too much about something or attacking and/or making fun of something someonevow.s...eg.. like their phone.. or hating on something they said. Im no mod in here, but it's just straight out common sense. Some people just wantvto get a rise out of others and those others just can't resist torpedoing that trolls sorry arse with some smarta** comment to get them going even mote.... Admit it, many of us have done it. Some things will never change... And this, is one of them. Thats what mods are for. But everyone here can make their life a little easier by not contributing to the source... / .... Fuel .
Pro-tip: You don't need to read drama filled threads. You don't need to read any thread actually. You have the choice to come to the forum, check for any thread titles indicating root has been achieved, and if you don't see them then either go away, or read only threads that have titles which interest you. Plain and simple.
I don't know why everyone on the internet feels that every single god damn thread in every forum MUST adhere to their own views of how threads should progress. If people want to *****/troll/libel/lie/cry/etc., then who are you to tell them not to? If you don't like it, DON'T READ IT!!! Plus, it's a PHONE. How do you not have anything else in your life going on that makes forums on phones completely irritate you to the point where you feel the need to tell people to not express their opinion? I'm assuming you're a Marine, which means you have probably sacrificed your life at some point to give US citizens the right to ***** and moan to their hearts desire. But that doesn't give you the right to tell people how to act.
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Pro-tip: You don't need to read drama filled threads. You don't need to read any thread actually. You have the choice to come to the forum, check for any thread titles indicating root has been achieved, and if you don't see them then either go away, or read only threads that have titles which interest you. Plain and simple.
I don't know why everyone on the internet feels that every single god damn thread in every forum MUST adhere to their own views of how threads should progress. If people want to *****/troll/libel/lie/cry/etc., then who are you to tell them not to? If you don't like it, DON'T READ IT!!! Plus, it's a PHONE. How do you not have anything else in your life going on that makes forums on phones completely irritate you to the point where you feel the need to tell people to not express their opinion? I'm assuming you're a Marine, which means you have probably sacrificed your life at some point to give US citizens the right to ***** and moan to their hearts desire. But that doesn't give you the right to tell people how to act.
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I've shared this same idea before, about people just not reading it and keeping it moving. But I do know sometimes you just can't help it.
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nm... was trying to add some levity but decided it's best to leave it alone.
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but the camera on this phone is soooo much better than my last htc phone. It's NOT a DSLR, but it certainly does a hella good job on image quality for a phone camera. I'm not conplaining..lol .
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LOL-I'm not complaining either.
I am a pro-photographer & own four Canon DSLR's which are awesome, but the Rezound camera certainly comes in handy when it's all I have with me.
To put in your sig that it's crappy just seems kinda stupid to me, it's better than 99% of the other camera phones......
~John
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LOL-I'm not complaining either.
I am a pro-photographer & own four Canon DSLR's which are awesome, but the Rezound camera certainly comes in handy when it's all I have with me.
To put in your sig that it's crappy just seems kinda stupid to me, it's better than 99% of the other camera phones......
~John
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Great opinion there, you think it's stupid but I've used the epic touch camera and im bitter after being spoiled. Kinda stupid to not see someone has a different experience. Sorry my signature seems to be getting under your skin with your rezound pride.
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Am I the only one that is sick of HTC lagging on releasing source code. I'm so tired of them dragging their sorry asses around with slow code releases for our phones. The whole thing is so stupid.
First we have the stupid 1.5 Hboot problem. What a pain in the ass. All so a few thousand people can't properly tinker with the device, which they paid good money for. That is so weak. And from a company that is supposed to be dev friendly. Right. All they are is annoying the most loyal customers they have.
Next we have the lack of source code for the newest kernel, 2.17.651.5. Without this code, the entire developer section is divided. We want the features from the established roms, but we can't have them along with the new OTA updates without your code. Just release it already. We are not going to sell it or start our own phone companies for F sake. We can't even use our cameras properly since you gave us botched camera code compared to other similar phones. Only god knows why you would do that.
PLEASE, if an HTC rep reads this, please help the community out. Give us the complete tools to unlock our phones, and the code to customize our phones as we see fit. We all promise to not break them and return them for one of the millions you already have sitting around the world. We already bought your stupid phone(s). Now give us the tools to make them better.
Thank you.
ps
When you release the update for ICS, please give us the option to run with or without Sense. Some of us love it, some of us hate it. But let it be our choice. Perhaps you could make Sense a bundle of widgets on top of ICS. I don't care how you do it, just do it right for a change.
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+1...
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I agree....
Yess, agree wit this!
Yup. Give me stock, HTC
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Serren said:
Am I the only one that is sick of HTC lagging on releasing source code. I'm so tired of them dragging their sorry asses around with slow code releases for our phones. The whole thing is so stupid.
First we have the stupid 1.5 Hboot problem. What a pain in the ass. All so a few thousand people can't properly tinker with the device, which they paid good money for. That is so weak. And from a company that is supposed to be dev friendly. Right. All they are is annoying the most loyal customers they have.
Next we have the lack of source code for the newest kernel, 2.17.651.5. Without this code, the entire developer section is divided. We want the features from the established roms, but we can't have them along with the new OTA updates without your code. Just release it already. We are not going to sell it or start our own phone companies for F sake. We can't even use our cameras properly since you gave us botched camera code compared to other similar phones. Only god knows why you would do that.
PLEASE, if an HTC rep reads this, please help the community out. Give us the complete tools to unlock our phones, and the code to customize our phones as we see fit. We all promise to not break them and return them for one of the millions you already have sitting around the world. We already bought your stupid phone(s). Now give us the tools to make them better.
Thank you.
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When you release the update for ICS, please give us the option to run with or without Sense. Some of us love it, some of us hate it. But let it be our choice. Perhaps you could make Sense a bundle of widgets on top of ICS. I don't care how you do it, just do it right for a change.
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Great post. I agree 100%.
That post sums up the reasons why I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. And when all the people who come to me for help with their phones ask for advice (which is several times per week), I will make sure I tell them all to get a Samsung or Motorola. I won't be recommending anymore HTC devices.
WatermelonSlim said:
Great post. I agree 100%.
That post sums up the reasons why I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. And when all the people who come to me for help with their phones ask for advice (which is several times per week), I will make sure I tell them all to get a Samsung or Motorola. I won't be recommending anymore HTC devices.
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Why are you still here?
Sell your phone if you don't like it.. or how the manufacturer release update/source
I'm sure the photon/ET4G forums need your wisdom and advice
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Why are you still here?
Sell your phone if you don't like it.. or how the manufacturer release update/source
I'm sure the photon/ET4G forums need your wisdom and advice
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Why are reading this thread? You knew what you would find when you openend it.
I'm still here because I own an Evo 3D, why the heck do you think I'm still here? Dumbass.
I don't believe that other manufactures are that much better. I guess try one and see. With that said I feel as though source should be released THE SAME TIME AS the update or with in a week. None of this 30 day/when we get to it crap.
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Why are reading this thread? You knew what you would find when you openend it.
I'm still here because I own an Evo 3D, why the heck do you think I'm still here? Dumbass.
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No need to start the childish name calling...
My point is simple sell it if you don't like it... Then tell your boy friend and all your chums you think HTC is bollocks...
Complaining about it isn't getting you far on xda...
Reverting to your childish ways I can tell you don't know how to handle your self when sarcasm and questions are directed at you...rather than name calling a simple "i own it,and I'm gonna make sure everyone knows I hate it" answer would have sufficed...
And I'm the dumbass.... Lol
Atleast I know when to let things go and move on..
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yeah this gets kinda old but does anyone really spit out their kernel source in a timely manner besides Google?
I remember this guy running at the mouth talking about HTC delays last year.
http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2011/12/24/
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No need to start the childish name calling...
My point is simple sell it if you don't like it... Then tell your boy friend and all your chums you think HTC is bollocks...
Complaining about it isn't getting you far on xda...
Reverting to your childish ways I can tell you don't know how to handle your self when sarcasm and questions are directed at you...rather than name calling a simple "i own it,and I'm gonna make sure everyone knows I hate it" answer would have sufficed...
And I'm the dumbass.... Lol
Atleast I know when to let things go and move on..
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You came in here and made an entire post dedicated to me, and then say you know how to let things go and move on?
lol, dumbass
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You came in here and made an entire post dedicated to me, and then say you know how to let things go and move on?
lol, dumbass
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I am talking about the phone... Let the EVO 3d go... And move on... Obviously you have nothing good to say about it..
Dedicated to you? Not so much... A question to you.. yes I'm sorry do I need to ask your permission to talk to you first?
I can see from your previous posts/arguments you have reason NOT to sell your phone and move on...
With that I will move on as the only thing you know how to do is bicker over a question...I wish you the best and hope you over come your personality complex
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I am talking about the phone... Let the EVO 3d go... And move on... Obviously you have nothing good to say about it..
Dedicated to you? Not so much... A question to you.. yes I'm sorry do I need to ask your permission to talk to you first?
I can see from your previous posts/arguments you have reason NOT to sell your phone and move on...
With that I will move on as the only thing you know how to do is bicker over a question...I wish you the best and hope you over come your personality complex
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You asked what I am still doing here. In a thread that was not started by me, with several other replies, every single one of them *****ing about HTC, you decided to ask ME what I'm still doing here. So I told you, I have an Evo 3d, why the heck do you think I'm still here?
Why don't I sell it? Because there isn't another 3D phone on Sprint at the moment and I got stuck in a 2 year contract when I bought this phone. Common sense.
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I am talking about the phone... Let the EVO 3d go... And move on... Obviously you have nothing good to say about it..
Dedicated to you? Not so much... A question to you.. yes I'm sorry do I need to ask your permission to talk to you first?
I can see from your previous posts/arguments you have reason NOT to sell your phone and move on...
With that I will move on as the only thing you know how to do is bicker over a question...I wish you the best and hope you over come your personality complex
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I agree with him - this phone is "meh" AT BEST as long as HTC does business this way. I'm constantly checking my contract end date because I'm going to bail unless HTC changes things. Unfortunately, it's probably going to be a sammy. Oh I almost forgot to ask - please bugger off.
WatermelonSlim said:
Great post. I agree 100%.
That post sums up the reasons why I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. And when all the people who come to me for help with their phones ask for advice (which is several times per week), I will make sure I tell them all to get a Samsung or Motorola. I won't be recommending anymore HTC devices.
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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I agree with him - this phone is "meh" AT BEST as long as HTC does business this way. I'm constantly checking my contract end date because I'm going to bail unless HTC changes things. Unfortunately, it's probably going to be a sammy. Oh I almost forgot to ask - please bugger off.
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how quick does Sammy release their source code????
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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I haven't seen it. I'm hoping now that google owns them things will change. I won't be buying one of their phones until they are unlockable though, so it doesn't matter.
Samsung is a viable alternative though. Fully unlockable on day 1 and source.code released in a timely manner.
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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Yeah Motorola aren't saints either, matter fact, all of these phone manufacturers are no good, its just a matter of picking your poison when choosing a manufacturer & phone. Had 3 Samsung phones (Moment, Epic, & Nexus S 4G), but I chose to stick with HTC because of the huge dev community behind it, & I'm at peace with that choice.
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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how quick does Sammy release their source code????
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Now thats a positive for Sammy, I seen them release source code BEFORE carriers release OTA's!
Hey there, I'm just wondering why there is no idea like this anywhere...
What would be if all owners of a MOTO RAZR will donate some money into a pot on XDA or somewhere else. The first developer who'll get this device unlocked, will get this whole pot...
I mean, for any developer who isn't interested in unlocking the RAZR will perhaps be interested...
Okay, someone is already working on a Bootloader bypass, but in my opinion it would be better to get another competitor, so perhaps the unlocking will get faster.
What do you think about?
How much would you donate for an unlocked bootloader?
I would pay 20€ for an unlocked bootloader...
This...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519448
send him a pm and ask him why he have not released it.
I dont even think we will see a unlocked bootloader for RAZR unfortunatley
Yeah I know that, so that's the reason why I started this thread.
I've got 20 on it
Sent from my ICE RAZR while my gnex sits on Ice
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Yeah I know that, so that's the reason why I started this thread.
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Yes well we have not seen anything or heard anything from him and he is not willing to share his work to other developers so I hope someone else will take the time to unlock the bootloader, unfortunatley that seems a little far-fetched atm.
Let's hope ICS will unlock our BL
I am starting to think that kholk is just a big mouth :-(((
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I am starting to think that kholk is just a big mouth :-(((
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In my point of view he is. Well he got atleast a free RAZR from droidrzr forum.
well I dont have mind donating if it's for real
You donate for something that exists, not for something that does not.
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In my point of view he is. Well he got atleast a free RAZR from droidrzr forum.
well I dont have mind donating if it's for real
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Exactly... I was one of those standing on his side and trusting that what he says is real but I am slowly changing my mind... If his unlock is real, I don't understand why he don't want to share his work with the other developers to speed up the development - it simply stinks..
I have no problem to pay him for the working unlock if he is keeping his secret for that reason but at this moment he has a free razr and we have absolutely nothing (except 2 posts in the thread) - no proof, no video, nothing....
Anyway - I am definitely FOR donating money for a developer who unlocks the bootloader if there is no unlock made by motorola after the official ics is released...
I for one will donate $50. Gentleman's word.
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Put me in for 20
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Why you guys Don't understand that the Razr's bootloader cannot be unlocked because it is secured by 2 efuses. It just can be bypassed (maybe), or a New unlocked one can be flashed by Moto.
//Sent from Razr//
Can you seriously stop romdroid. you're annoying - trolling every single thread that mentions his name, posting on every single page, as if your opinion will have a greater effect on people if they read it every half an hour. Wow.
MAYBE BEFORE YOU TRY AND SLANDER SOMEONE, LOOK AT THE WORK THEY'VE ALREADY DONE.
Look at how Kholk has already released so much. He leaked the GSM ICS. His team made the Arctic ROM. He made WebtopMOD. Countless kernels for countless devices.
http://pastebin.com/vuVfaQ7U should be a big one. You can see the bypassed bootloader at work.
Maybe you should take a look at mbm who had already done substantial work on the Bionic's kexec.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1466402.html
He also said back in January that progress would be a lot faster if someone else could help him out or he got another phone. Else he'd need a lot of time. Now kholk is helping him out. Do the math.
http://mmlogs.doshaska.net/#milestone-modding/2012-01-30.html
If you can't take a sip of the true tea and put a sock in it until you hear from them, then I suggest you just leave the forums in the mean time and monitor Android Police for a little bit waiting for news. We don't need negative nancies like you pissing the few Devs that actually do work for our phones off. GOOD DAY.
[TSON] said:
Can you seriously stop romdroid. you're annoying - trolling every single thread that mentions his name, posting on every single page, as if your opinion will have a greater effect on people if they read it every half an hour. Wow.
MAYBE BEFORE YOU TRY AND SLANDER SOMEONE, LOOK AT THE WORK THEY'VE ALREADY DONE.
Look at how Kholk has already released so much. He leaked the GSM ICS. His team made the Arctic ROM. He made WebtopMOD. Countless kernels for countless devices.
http://pastebin.com/vuVfaQ7U should be a big one. You can see the bypassed bootloader at work.
Maybe you should take a look at mbm who had already done substantial work on the Bionic's kexec.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1466402.html
He also said back in January that progress would be a lot faster if someone else could help him out or he got another phone. Else he'd need a lot of time. Now kholk is helping him out. Do the math.
http://mmlogs.doshaska.net/#milestone-modding/2012-01-30.html
If you can't take a sip of the true tea and put a sock in it until you hear from them, then I suggest you just leave the forums in the mean time and monitor Android Police for a little bit waiting for news. We don't need negative nancies like you pissing the few Devs that actually do work for our phones off. GOOD DAY.
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Take a chill pill and stop buttlicking. I wont belive it untill it's out. I have nothing personal against kholk or any other developer
well it seems that kholk is not cheating us cause in his archives in the eternity project forum there is a kexec_load.ko
http://www.eternityproject.eu/downloads/
But we don't know the instructions to appropiate load another kernel.....
I'm putting $20 on the pot! Let's see this coming!
Sent from my XT910 using XDA
romdroid. said:
Take a chill pill and stop buttlicking. I wont belive it untill it's out. I have nothing personal against kholk or any other developer
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You clearly do have a personal vendetta/are trolling. There's not a thread about this on XDA where you haven't "shared your opinion" at least twice. And used the word buttlicking.
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You clearly do have a personal vendetta/are trolling. There's not a thread about this on XDA where you haven't "shared your opinion" at least twice. And used the word buttlicking.
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+1
I truly don't get some people on xda..... why do people demand when they don't know how much work it actually takes .... If you're so impatient and wouldn't believe until you see it romdroid and anyone else why don't you go learn some programming then try do what these devs are doing..... or you can donate to them so they can work more as this is not their life(they have jobs,family...etc) They are people afterall like you. It's a hobby for most devs...... If not wait patiently like everyone else and be grateful a site like xda exist with awesome devs and roms, etc..... If not stick to stock and crappy motorola support. You can just have an android phone like most people and not know a site like xda exist or what rooting is..... afterall you made a choice to be on xda so stick to the rules(not all are written)......
My opinion but seriously i think you're the one in need of the chill pill here.....
I can understand the rage and the excitation of waiting for so much time. I've felt the same on my old HD2 times.
Now, as a developer, I can understand why no developer wants to talk with the mass or say anything about his upcoming work.
Guys, I don't wanna talk like a badass, and I'll continue to write my posts like I've always did since I've started here as a normal user (yeah, years ago I was a total n00b): give yourself more selfcontrol. I've learnt from my errors in the past when doing almost the same: do the same!
Instead of hitting the "Thanks" button, I'd like to say that here.
Thanks [TSON] and everyone else trying to calm down the users here: like you said in other posts, the only results the people can have insulting and/or misrespecting the developers are delays or worst.
P.S.: The file linked by cgomezparra isn't for the RAZR!
[TSON] said:
Can you seriously stop romdroid. you're annoying - trolling every single thread that mentions his name, posting on every single page, as if your opinion will have a greater effect on people if they read it every half an hour. Wow.
MAYBE BEFORE YOU TRY AND SLANDER SOMEONE, LOOK AT THE WORK THEY'VE ALREADY DONE.
Look at how Kholk has already released so much. He leaked the GSM ICS. His team made the Arctic ROM. He made WebtopMOD. Countless kernels for countless devices.
http://pastebin.com/vuVfaQ7U should be a big one. You can see the bypassed bootloader at work.
Maybe you should take a look at mbm who had already done substantial work on the Bionic's kexec.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1466402.html
He also said back in January that progress would be a lot faster if someone else could help him out or he got another phone. Else he'd need a lot of time. Now kholk is helping him out. Do the math.
http://mmlogs.doshaska.net/#milestone-modding/2012-01-30.html
If you can't take a sip of the true tea and put a sock in it until you hear from them, then I suggest you just leave the forums in the mean time and monitor Android Police for a little bit waiting for news. We don't need negative nancies like you pissing the few Devs that actually do work for our phones off. GOOD DAY.
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Whats wrong with you? I have never pissed anyone, I just said the truth. Nobody from us can unlock the bootloader because it is a hardware problem. It just can be bypassed or Moto can unlock it. The bootloader's signature is encrypted and it would be very difficult to decrypt. But bypassing the bootloader is another thing which is possible.
I have never doubted on the Eternity Project's work, you've just asserted that. If you can't accept the opinion of other people maybe then you should leave the forums and take the “chill pill“ by yourself. Good day!
//Sent from Razr//