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What happened to Nonsensikal??????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745603
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Not sure.. he relased 10.1 then the next day the forum stated removed. Some info would be nice, but i haven't seen anything all week till you posted this.
Weird, he has had by far, IMO, the best ROM I have used.
He pull the rom off of XDA for "personal reasons". No idea what that exactly entails.
http://androidforums.com/eris-all-t...ensikal-blue-vanilla-black-3.html#post1763864
It's a mystery ... Google Nonsensikal and you can still find his rom.
Listy said he's moved on. No more rom making. 10.1 was his last, he's now doing apps and other things and I believe he is getting a new device. It's a shame but eventually all our devs and porters will go.
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Really workshed, going to be an ass about it??? I use XDA for 99% of my android info.
Thanks Fender for the update....
56K said:
Really workshed, going to be an ass about it??? I use XDA for 99% of my android info.
Thanks Fender for the update....
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I didnt see anything "ass" like about workshed's post ... I think he was just telling you it is still out there available for download.
56K said:
Really workshed, going to be an ass about it??? I use XDA for 99% of my android info.
Thanks Fender for the update....
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Really 56k, over sensitive much? How's that being an ass? If he wanted us to know the details, which I do as he PM'd me about it, then he would have stated why in his thread before he removed it, but he didn't right? lol, so without mentioning the other forum, or directly linking to it, I suggested using google...
Grow up.
workshed said:
Really 56k, over sensitive much? How's that being an ass? If he wanted us to know the details, which I do as he PM'd me about it, then he would have stated why in his thread before he removed it, but he didn't right? lol, so without mentioning the other forum, or directly linking to it, I suggested using google...
Grow up.
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I asked a question, and you answered it like an ass. That is all. Fender answered it, very well.
Who cares if you mention another forum. Most people come here will continue to come here.
Moving on....
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I asked a question, and you answered it like an ass. That is all. Fender answered it, very well.
Who cares if you mention another forum. Most people come here will continue to come here.
Moving on....
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Like I said... lol
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I asked a question, and you answered it like an ass. That is all. Fender answered it, very well.
Who cares if you mention another forum. Most people come here will continue to come here.
Moving on....
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MY opinion...you come off looking like an ass here ....
56K said:
I asked a question, and you answered it like an ass. That is all. Fender answered it, very well.
Who cares if you mention another forum. Most people come here will continue to come here.
Moving on....
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come on man , lighten up ,, people cuzing issues around here is one of the reasons devs leaves ,,TRUST Me!!! when i first started this there were a few people who gave me **** for doing nuthing but makin a rom WHICH i dont even use cuz i dont use the phone for personal use , i have my droid x for that
bottom line we cant make eveyone happy and sometimes its just best to move on as he did ,, not sayin thats y he left but people have pushed me towards the door
....hope we don't lose any more developers. Our phone is discontinued and I've got another year left on my contract. I just read a forum that we're no longer get ANY OTA's. If you downgrade, you must flash back up.
Just curious, why'd the ShadowRom guys leave? I know there was some disagreement about linking to their site, but hell I'll download their rom, sign it (for amon ra people) and post to XDA if that's the only issue. I like to flash and experiment. I want as many options as possible for our EOL devices.
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He pull the rom off of XDA for "personal reasons". No idea what that exactly entails.
http://androidforums.com/eris-all-t...ensikal-blue-vanilla-black-3.html#post1763864
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Thanks for the update. Hopefully we still have devs around for a little while longer.. like the other guy stated.. i still have a year left till an upgrade.. lol.. and factory just doesn't cut it with an Eris
Hmm
This happens more often than I care to count. I hate, that for whatever reason, developers keep leaving.
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This happens more often than I care to count. I hate, that for whatever reason, developers keep leaving.
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It is the nature of the beast. These fancy pocket computers we have now just don't seem to last long before there's something that is so much more capable out there. And when you sell your current phone and add the 1 or 2 year discounts up, it's hard not to move on.
Besides... There are more up and coming devs than you probably realize. It takes time to learn this stuff.
Oh here we go again. Internet argument. Grabs popcorn
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Y'all talk about this like it's the end of the world. Look at all the old WinMo phones that still have active development here! What about the G1? That was the first Android phone ever sold commercially. And it's running CM6!
They've even ported over the Hero rom to it with HTC Sense.
Now the down side is our phone is CDMA which means we have several continents of potential developers who don't have our device, but we do have our non-identical twin brother the Sprint Hero which shares 90% of its hardware with the Eris. And the Hero has a pretty active development community. (One reason may be is that Sprint traditionally has lower credit requirements than Verizon and it is easier for people to get phones through them)
Anyway, we have Kaos,Tazz, Conap and a few others others who are churning out stuff left and right for our phones still. Nothing to worry about IMO.
We got Froyo which arrived despite Verizon and HTC saying it just wouldn't work. They also said Android 2 would never fit on a G1 and now they've got Froyo. Apps2SD, Cache2Cache and other great ideas will keep our main memory clear for more stuff. If Kaos continues development on his tool to boot roms from SD cards, we have virtually unlimited storage capacity for bigger and better things.
I am not mad at him leaving and I know i can try another rom, just seemed like his has been by far the fastest and most stable.
Not sure what happened behind the scenes, but maybe he will come back.
His v10.1 was top knotch and super fast.
For the whole month of waiting for S-off the only thing that was going on in here was people complaing and bashing other people. Well now that we have S-off it seems every thread is someone having problems with there phone after they rooted it. It seems to me this is why sprint and htc dont want us toying with these phones. Rooting a phone is suppose to make it better correct? It seeme to me its making the phones worst
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what are you talking about? There's always problems, if you don't wanna read them then stay out the QnA section since that's what there for
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For the whole month of waiting for S-off the only thing that was going on in here was people complaing and bashing other people. Well now that we have S-off it seems every thread is someone having problems with there phone after they rooted it. It seems to me this is why sprint and htc dont want us toying with these phones. Rooting a phone is suppose to make it better correct? It seeme to me its making the phones worst
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welcome to rooting for me
YES its worth it 1000000000%
The forum is usually a place for questions, consumption & troubleshooting. I can post a thread about how happy I am if anyone cares. : p
But yeah that would be why you see what you see.
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Yup problems will be there no matter what but i preffer this threads then stuff about another phone or some problems with the phone itself, love root
And we would have less if people will read more thread or the whole description of how to root and what really is
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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what are you talking about? There's always problems, if you don't wanna read them then stay out the QnA section since that's what there for
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Yea there were some minor problems before root but now look...people losing 4g not being able to send and recieve messages. Web not working. Some batteries got better some peoples phones wont turn on at all lol. But the funny thing is. All these problems people are having from rooting if they dont get fixed there gona go into sprint store complaining.
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Im not lookin to start trouble or discredit the devs who busted there asses to get s-off. But im sure alot of people wanna root dont bc they see all these problems.
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Yea there were some minor problems before root but now look...people losing 4g not being able to send and recieve messages. Web not working. Some batteries got better some peoples phones wont turn on at all lol. But the funny thing is. All these problems people are having from rooting if they dont get fixed there gona go into sprint store complaining.
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I dunno, the "no calls/txt/data" is a problem that is hit-or-miss when you do a hands-free-activation....root or not. It happened to me, took me under 2 minutes to have fixed by Sprint, who did it happily.
People losing 4G? I don't think this network is robust enough to blame that on root...and even if that is in an area with a rock solid 4G signal I still think there may be some user intervention at play that isn't the fault of getting s-off all by it self.
The funky "turning on, or not, or plugged in, or not, or take out battery, or sdcard, or both, or not" problems were there from the begining...I used to think it was only certain phones, but, I think it's all phones in certain conditions. Being s-off and rooted gives us the ability to put the phone into more conditions where that may or may not happen.
...and as far as battery performance is concerned it's nearly impossible to prove that it ISN'T user/application related. I'm not saying it definitely IS their fault, but, it's impossible to prove that...so many conditions vary for your phone so frequently every day even if yours do not that battery life claims are nearly impossible to prove and impossible to refute based on any changed variable all by itself....not to mention a near 100% chance of someone else reporting the exact opposite condition.
...aside from my data going slow after hands-free-activation (which is fixed in 2 minutes) I have experienced none of these problems after rooting...okay, I take that back, I have experienced the "sometimes it turns on while plugged in, sometimes it doesn't"...but, it did that before s-off/root as well.
...and let's not forget that the s-off hack likely has nothing to do with these issues. I have the eng hboot...non-hacked. Just the way god intended. If it is from anything it would be from the rooting of the ROM, which I still doubt.
Honestly, compared to the initial period after the s-off/root exploits releases for other devices this doesn't seem out of the ordinary at all...and no offense meant, but, are you new to this?
EDIT: Oh yeah, to answer your question....yes, s-off and rooting were VERY worth it to me. Now bring on the AOSP
No way. I hate having a better phone
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I want to root my phone. The advantage far outweight the disadvantage? I am going to wait 1 more week.
Oh, I dont have any insurance on my new 3D phone.
Two words: User error. The problems you see are because people do not know what they are doing. Simple as that. Rooting your phone does nothing but give you permission to be able to do what you want to do with "your" phone.
No offense OP. But you sound like a news reporter trying desperately to make a name for himself by finding some giant issue in something that has mostly only brought joy to everyone.
"TONIGHT!!. Jon Andersen goes on localtion to uncover the truth behind...PUPPIES!. what he finds may disgust you to the point of wanting to flush your own puppy. Stay tuned!!"
Are We Not Phones?
We are EVO.
ARE WE NOT PHONES?!
3DEVO!
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Two words: User error. The problems you see are because people do not know what they are doing. Simple as that. Rooting your phone does nothing but give you permission to be able to do what you want to do with "your" phone.
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Yeah, that's a really good point. I think that Sprint in general has probably been taking in a lot of new users, likely mostly smartphone users, because of the unlimited data thing...and the fact that Sprint actually has the most compelling collection of smartphones right this second IMHO. Sadly I'm thinking about jumping ship since this signal is just useless to me in most places now, and that's to say nothing of the over-loaded network.
...not to mention the droves of E4G defectors who were following the developers, and the larger and more frequent droves of defectors from every phone from the last generation that want the developer support that the E4G had but they definitely did not see...and then there are all of the people who finally got off of their contract from Heros and Moments from when they were still hot items....
...so, yeah, there is just so many goddamned people in here that I'd be surprised if there weren't more complaints on average. Contrast this to the NookColor forum where there are far more actual tricky problems but nobody blames the root method for them missing a step or not understanding a process...not to mention how god damned civil it is around there.
Yeah, good call...
I dont need to explain myself. You, do not know what the hell you are talking about.
How is improving your phone worse? People ***** when the phone is not rooted..and people ***** when the phone is rooted.
Worst troll post ever.....
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For the whole month of waiting for S-off the only thing that was going on in here was people complaing and bashing other people. Well now that we have S-off it seems every thread is someone having problems with there phone after they rooted it. It seems to me this is why sprint and htc dont want us toying with these phones. Rooting a phone is suppose to make it better correct? It seeme to me its making the phones worst
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To me it was worth it. However I've noticed many issues are because folks don't read, can't follow instructions, make changes without knowing WHAT they are doing.
Sorry but if you don't know what changes you're making, what issues they cause, how to fix, how to undo what you screwed up, then they shouldn't be rooting, flashing and changing settings.
By "you" I don't necessarily mean you, but more of a "folks in general".
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Yeah, that's a really good point. I think that Sprint in general has probably been taking in a lot of new users, likely mostly smartphone users, because of the unlimited data thing...and the fact that Sprint actually has the most compelling collection of smartphones right this second IMHO. Sadly I'm thinking about jumping ship since this signal is just useless to me in most places now, and that's to say nothing of the over-loaded network.
...not to mention the droves of E4G defectors who were following the developers, and the larger and more frequent droves of defectors from every phone from the last generation that want the developer support that the E4G had but they definitely did not see...and then there are all of the people who finally got off of their contract from Heros and Moments from when they were still hot items....
...so, yeah, there is just so many goddamned people in here that I'd be surprised if there weren't more complaints on average. Contrast this to the NookColor forum where there are far more actual tricky problems but nobody blames the root method for them missing a step or not understanding a process...not to mention how god damned civil it is around there.
Yeah, good call...
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Agree with everything you said Dan.
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Compusmurf said:
To me it was worth it. However I've noticed many issues are because folks don't read, can't follow instructions, make changes without knowing WHAT they are doing.
Sorry but if you don't know what changes you're making, what issues they cause, how to fix, how to undo what you screwed up, then they shouldn't be rooting, flashing and changing settings.
By "you" I don't necessarily mean you, but more of a "folks in general".
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Thanks these are the types of non bashing answers i was simply lookin for
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No offense OP. But you sound like a news reporter trying desperately to make a name for himself by finding some giant issue in something that has mostly only brought joy to everyone.
"TONIGHT!!. Jon Andersen goes on localtion to uncover the truth behind...PUPPIES!. what he finds may disgust you to the point of wanting to flush your own puppy. Stay tuned!!"
Are We Not Phones?
We are EVO.
ARE WE NOT PHONES?!
3DEVO!
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Lol tryin to get famous? From xda lol? I could give 2 sh!t$ about that. I have a goddamn life you obviously must not.....i tell you what hop out of this thread and start scrollin down genera and Q&A. Everyones complain root did somethin to there phone
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Lol tryin to get famous? From xda lol? I could give 2 sh!t$ about that. I have a goddamn life you obviously must not.....i tell you what hop out of this thread and start scrollin down genera and Q&A. Everyones complain root did somethin to there phone
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Hey dude, it was a joke... I read your post and that is how it looked to me.
And really?... basing the success of something on a DEVELOPERS forum's Q&A section?
I can pull up every single phones Q&A section and get just as many, probably more issues in the general dates of when they where first rooted/cracked/jailbroken.
Soooooo, chill buddy.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/11/ice-cream-sandwich-samsung-galaxy-s2-lg-optimus-3d/
LG optimus 3d and SGS2 has ICS ports.....
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/11/ice-cream-sandwich-samsung-galaxy-s2-lg-optimus-3d/
LG optimus 3d and SGS2 has ICS ports.....
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the EVO 4G has an alpha build also...
It's not beating us if it's not usable, and alphas are not generally usable.
I'm guessing LG and Samsung actually releases their source code as they should unlike HTC
We actually have a ics port that boots as well. The devs just don't want to reliese something that completely doesn't work besides boot
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I hope evo 3d gsm also get the ics port
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Just say it gosh lmao our devs are perfectionists......
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Maybe some are, and maybe some want to release stuff for prestige, or some other motivating factor, but its my personal opinion that we have a very select number that are actually good at what they do and are true perfectionists.
I'll tell you another thing I think, my opinion, not trying to offend anyone, but the evo portion of the community is bad. No developer wants to develop hundreds of hours of labor to I thankless bunch of snot nosed, cruel bunch of assholes the community has. There are so many people here that launch unprovoked attacks against members that haven't done anything. There is only so much you can give to the community when all someone does is take take take, flame flame flame. How can some of you be so cruel to your fellow xda brethren, or just people in general? I really am sorry your mothers didn't love you enough, or maybe you got diddled as a child, or were so socially inept that you were tormented. Treating other people like garbage isn't going to fill those holes. Get yourself a good therapist, and come back when you know how the rest if us operate.
Anyway, it has severely hindered the desire to develop. I know I won't be developing anything for the evo because of it. When I get my next device we'll see how that community behaves. Sorry for the rant, but I'm entitled to my thoughts and opinions, I'm sure it will resonate for some, and others won't give two ****s in a turkey ****.
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Maybe some are, and maybe some want to release stuff for prestige, or some other motivating factor, but its my personal opinion that we have a very select number that are actually good at what they do and are true perfectionists.
I'll tell you another thing I think, my opinion, not trying to offend anyone, but the evo portion of the community is bad. No developer wants to develop hundreds of hours of labor to I thankless bunch of snot nosed, cruel bunch of assholes the community has. There are so many people here that launch unprovoked attacks against members that haven't done anything. There is only so much you can give to the community when all someone does is take take take, flame flame flame. How can some of you be so cruel to your fellow xda brethren, or just people in general? I really am sorry your mothers didn't love you enough, or maybe you got diddled as a child, or were so socially inept that you were tormented. Treating other people like garbage isn't going to fill those holes. Get yourself a good therapist, and come back when you know how the rest if us operate.
Anyway, it has severely hindered the desire to develop. I know I won't be developing anything for the evo because of it. When I get my next device we'll see how that community behaves. Sorry for the rant, but I'm entitled to my thoughts and opinions, I'm sure it will resonate for some, and others won't give two ****s in a turkey ****.
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Sounds like your the spokeswoman for the devs....
I see you blatantly mouthed your ignorant opinions and hypocritical ideas of the actions in this community... Our mothers didn't love us enough?
Get a therapist?
Wow how can you say that about people when you seem so "enlightened" and morally above most of us....
Lay off the wacky tabacky chief...
As for your "teaser" to the next device community.... It's a open forum ..... No other forum is a clean flame free environment... I suggest you take a look around the WHOLE of xda... (sub forums,marketplace,general,ect,ect,....)
I think there is more good than bad and your the kind of thing/person that looks at negative instead of positive..
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Sad Panda said:
Maybe some are, and maybe some want to release stuff for prestige, or some other motivating factor, but its my personal opinion that we have a very select number that are actually good at what they do and are true perfectionists.
I'll tell you another thing I think, my opinion, not trying to offend anyone, but the evo portion of the community is bad. No developer wants to develop hundreds of hours of labor to I thankless bunch of snot nosed, cruel bunch of assholes the community has. There are so many people here that launch unprovoked attacks against members that haven't done anything. There is only so much you can give to the community when all someone does is take take take, flame flame flame. How can some of you be so cruel to your fellow xda brethren, or just people in general? I really am sorry your mothers didn't love you enough, or maybe you got diddled as a child, or were so socially inept that you were tormented. Treating other people like garbage isn't going to fill those holes. Get yourself a good therapist, and come back when you know how the rest if us operate.
Anyway, it has severely hindered the desire to develop. I know I won't be developing anything for the evo because of it. When I get my next device we'll see how that community behaves. Sorry for the rant, but I'm entitled to my thoughts and opinions, I'm sure it will resonate for some, and others won't give two ****s in a turkey ****.
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I agree with about half of this. I think in your efforts though you should have risen above and not flamed the flamers. Your right some people are just plain out rude though! Which scares the devs away. Some people also don't realize that questions are only natural. Newbs will he newbs. Now some people might be lazy and not wanna read but sometimes threads just get crazy and hard to follow.
For example I saw several people ask about viruses 3.5 rom. From what I saw everything in his op was about eternity 3.0. No one wanted to answer a few simple questions. And half of them.got flamed. They spent more time typing there flame then it would have been to answer the question.
I wish I could have answered the peoples questions but I was in there same boat. I was trying to find my own answers but I was searching from work on my phone.
I work sixty hours a week. So I struggle to spend half my time on viruses website.like I used to and find it to be impossible to keep up sometimes. Svn logs really help though! I love myn and the crew because there religious with those things. And xrepinsporex I hope I spelled that right has a website hosting svn roms that saved my life.
Hopefully someday well have a community as strong as those members. Its those guys that have made my XDA experience the best it could possibly be.
I rambled here. Sorry lol
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It couldn't be any easier for my point to be made. Without mentioning a single person specifically you verbally attack me? Do you feel the need to demonstrate your superiority or something? Well whatever it is, I would be interested to hear your thoughts. I'm not sure what makes respond to me in that matter, because I'm quite sure I have never said a single thing about you.
You have your right to speak your mind and say whatever you want to me or about me, in fact I would feel better if you did, because I would like to know if there is something I need to apologize for. You shouldn't feel any generalized post by me has anything to do with you.
I will say one negative thing though. A post like yours is extremely hypocritical. You can justify your response to me, but I am not entitled to my expression? That's a load of ****.
As for me preaching; sorry if it offends you, but the same actions I just complained about offend me. Furthermore, I would like to hear how I said anything about being more moral than anyone. I do my fair share of immoral, unethical behavior. I can tell you for certain, I never am intentionally cruel to anyone. I even hold no ill feeling towards you.
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I agree with about half of this. I think in your efforts though you should have risen above and not flamed the flamers. Your right some people are just plain out rude though! Which scares the devs away. Some people also don't realize that questions are only natural. Newbs will he newbs. Now some people might be lazy and not wanna read but sometimes threads just get crazy and hard to follow.
For example I saw several people ask about viruses 3.5 rom. From what I saw everything in his op was about eternity 3.0. No one wanted to answer a few simple questions. And half of them.got flamed. They spent more time typing there flame then it would have been to answer the question.
I wish I could have answered the peoples questions but I was in there same boat. I was trying to find my own answers but I was searching from work on my phone.
I work sixty hours a week. So I struggle to spend half my time on viruses website.like I used to and find it to be impossible to keep up sometimes. Svn logs really help though! I love myn and the crew because there religious with those things. And xrepinsporex I hope I spelled that right has a website hosting svn roms that saved my life.
Hopefully someday well have a community as strong as those members. Its those guys that have made my XDA experience the best it could possibly be.
I rambled here. Sorry lol
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Your response is all I am asking for in a lot of my soap box rants. You said you disagreed with me, you were kind, not disrespectful, and were still capable of voicing your opinion. I do not write understand what you mean about the flaming, that's never my intention. If there is an example floating around like that I am sorry, it wasn't intentional
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Is this negativity because I said "some of you guys"? I was trying to imply people that read it in the future, not you guys as in this post
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It couldn't be any easier for my point to be made. Without mentioning a single person specifically you verbally attack me? Do you feel the need to demonstrate your superiority or something? Well whatever it is, I would be interested to hear your thoughts. I'm not sure what makes respond to me in that matter, because I'm quite sure I have never said a single thing about you.
You have your right to speak your mind and say whatever you want to me or about me, in fact I would feel better if you did, because I would like to know if there is something I need to apologize for. You shouldn't feel any generalized post by me has anything to do with you.
I will say one negative thing though. A post like yours is extremely hypocritical. You can justify your response to me, but I am not entitled to my expression? That's a load of ****.
As for me preaching; sorry if it offends you, but the same actions I just complained about offend me. Furthermore, I would like to hear how I said anything about being more moral than anyone. I do my fair share of immoral, unethical behavior. I can tell you for certain, I never am intentionally cruel to anyone. I even hold no ill feeling towards you.
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Your response is all I am asking for in a lot of my soap box rants. You said you disagreed with me, you were kind, not disrespectful, and were still capable of voicing your opinion. I do not write understand what you mean about the flaming, that's never my intention. If there is an example floating around like that I am sorry, it wasn't intentional
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Is this negativity because I said "some of you guys"? I was trying to imply people that read it in the future, not you guys as in this post
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No man I wasn't pointing anyone in specific out in my post lol I don't want angry death threats ;-p
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Hahaha
OP: Talking about ICS Ports
Thread: Flame war about flame wars
Oh XDA, your cycles of garbage and ineptitude cause me such bittersweet joy!
Lol I think it was a valid point. When you aren't getting paid to develop, there has to be some other motivation to share your innovation with others. Would you share your peanut butter and jelly sandwich with someone that was a bully? That's all I'm saying.
The evo 3D is still a valid piece of hardware. It may be a little slower to get ics though. The holidays coming up doesn't help either, there are so many other things to worry about.
The way I look at is that... Why should the devs release it?
First of all, there are way too many people here who bi**ch about little things not working.
Second of all, the TOUCHSCREEN doesn't work. There will be a bunch of people whining and complaining and asking why they released it without even having a touchscreen. When they have clearly stated that it doesn't work.
I think it would just be a huge cluster f**k if they released what they do have, which would slow down development even more.
I want ICS just as much as the next person but I'll either wait quietly until they release it or until I can do it myself. Everyone just needs to be patient and a little more respectful if the developers decisions.
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There was an ics port made for the evo 3d a lot of the functionality worked. Only a few problems but it was still alpha release.
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There was an ics port made for the evo 3d a lot of the functionality worked. Only a few problems but it was still alpha release.
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As far I know we never even got touch working?
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There was an ics port made for the evo 3d a lot of the functionality worked. Only a few problems but it was still alpha release.
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I believe that was an SDK port. The only thing that will get us anywhere is a build from the source. This one guy was trying to get a bootable ROM and said he was close, but that probably wont be released until touchscreen is working which won't be soon.
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I had it installed and the touch screen was working fine.
Those Nazis gosh darn them straight to heck!
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I had it installed and the touch screen was working fine.
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Care to share ?
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To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
gaad0701 said:
To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Yeah, it is definitely a possibility that that is the case. The whole reason I posted this is because it has been so long since we heard anything from either of them.
Perhaps they have been PMing instead of going at it in a thread since it was such a heated discussion before.
I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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true, but I'm also thinking that this may be possible, that this could be the way to unlock the bootloader without having to buy another phone. Maybe i'm being too optimistic about this, but that's just how I feel, and how I was raised. Maybe this has to do with me being screwed over by a girl I was in love with because she moved onto her "high school sweetheart," and me wearing my heart on my sleeve, but that's just life. I'm trying to get the best out of my phone until I can upgrade to the GNex or the next best thing, but as of right now, I'm going to see this to the end and if that means I'm going to get hurt again "over a phone" then so be it. I'm going into this to optimistic, too involved, but oh well, that's me not you.
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I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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It was in the BBB Complaint thread by Litetaker on page 11, it goes off for about 9 pages and then gets back on topic.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Because of that 1% nobody knows if she is right or wrong. NOBODY. You cannot say she is wrong without knowing the facts yourself and why not hold onto that glimmer of hope, if you read the original post I did ask for opinions, but I did not ask for your opinion on the validity of threads.
I see that you agree that this is most likely false, but it was taking up a lot of space in a different thread and I for one am interested enough to try to find out more.
I told everyone I am willing to attempt all of the tests once the soak/actuall update come out so if we can unlock the bootloader before that even happens I would be in heaven, I hate Moto Blur....
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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You are correct, I am hoping she is right and that it is an exe and we can somehow apply it to the X2.
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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Lol man I did not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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Lol man I did not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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I hear you, I am so tired of this things lag and other massive issues
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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I sent her a PM this morning, hopefully we get an answer sometime today.
"I'm getting too old for this ****".
Its been almost a year since release and they've been yanking us around. The only way I'll have an unlocked phone anytime soon is if I get a free one from my complaint to BBB.
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Dunno who that coulda been
I may have gone a little overboard with the flaming, but she hit a nerve. Not getting into it again, just wanted to apologize.
Nah, I'm kidding. Good riddance.
Even ignoring the insults between myself and her, I don't think it's debatable at this point whether or not she's a troll (or equally possible: horribly, horribly confused).
I think my summary from that thread summed it up pretty efficiently.
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So let me recap.
We have an illiterate Droid Razr owner posting on the Droid X2 forums about talking on the phone with a Verizon representative about an unlocked bootloader (even though Verizon doesn't do jack **** with android) for their phone, which is a Razr, even though she claims it will work for an X2 (actually she hasnt, she just posts about it in the X2 forums. The ****?). This person tells us that the unlock our phones, and it will come alongside an ICS distro at the end of April.
Okay, cool, I didn't believe a word of it, but that at least is a possibility worth considering. That is, until they posted more information.
So as we ask her more about why she's in our forums and why the Verizon rep would have this information (keep in mind, a rep would never have this information if even Motorola reps don't), and she drops a bombshell: she's got an unlocked bootloader. OUT OF ****ING NOWHERE. Not ONCE before this did she care to mention she was unlocked. This contradicts everything she said before this; why does she have it now if it's coming at the end of April.
Alright, let's move on.
So apparently, she found this bootloader unlock on the Verizon site. Again, this contradicts her own story in more ways than I care to mention. Not only that, but Verizon would NOT be in possession of such a tool. It's not as if they even know how to work with Android; they are a service provider!
And finally, she presents us with a file she claims she found on the Verizon site (which she did not) and that it will allow us to unlock our bootloader by entering (this is what I could decipher) a series of ones and then a string of 7 random numbers and letters.
K. I don't know why anyone is still trying. This is worthless. It seems I'm the only voice of reason whenever people try to troll us. This is what, the third time? Fourth? I can't remember.
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Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
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Are you serious you post a thread asking for peoples opinions on this and then you want me to not post because you don't like my opinion, or because it isn't what you intended for people to post? What you posted in your thread left this open for discussion. My opinion is its complete BS. Like someone said if we get an unlocked boot loader someone will have the tool or the means and post it. Not dance around answers and complain about migraines. Why even feed into it?
Also yes I do have a gnex but I still have my x2 and use it frequently at home. I too want an unlocked bootloader.
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Hey guys no offense or anything, but none of the founding guys at Team BAMF really gives a damn about anything anyone thinks. We are a group of friends who enjoy tinkering with stuff when time permits. We all have careers, hobbies, and most importantly families and lives.
What we do stand by is what we all think is the spirit of what Android represents. If Joelz or others loosely associated with Team BAMF did shady things as you suggest with phones/donations etc. then please show me. Too put it bluntly, we don't play that **** and neither does XDA. If that's the case, we will handle that real quick. We can't handle things we don't know about.
And the last thing.. I didn't read all the thread because to be honest it looked like a bunch of cry baby BS about five pages in, but not everyone wants 10000 of cherry picked features from the same three roms with a different name slapped on it. We don't operate on the premise that everyone will like us. People that have been around in the Android scene will know us and most likely have nice things to say. The ones that need their egos stroked and asses kissed will not. Regardless, BAMF's work is a hobby, and released only for the people who enjoy it, who we consider friends and fellow Android enthusiasts looking to stray away from the masses.
To the few in here defending, thanks for taking the time to get the facts. To the people here *****ing.. Feel free to carry on with your mindless bashing on an internet forum of people you don't even know, and who would most definitely put a boot in your ass in real life.. :good:
I'll bet we could still go into the rezound forum and dig up one of his old threads for pokemon rom and show where he was accused of putting out failed ROMs and agreeing be did. Probably can find the thread of him trying to sell it. Probably can show people complaining it was taking 2+months for updates. Probably can find the donatuon thread in the GS3 section that showed the protest overall this and him agreeing to not do that with the GS3 then to fail at releasing anything there.
See he lucks out as mods will protect him because he never asks for a donated device. Someone always comes in and praises him and says how great he is, he comes in and says he will do XYZ if he gets the phone and then tada phone given, a few failed releases and he is gone. He never actually breaks XDA rules but that doesn't mean he doesn't con people.
More than once he said he would do all kinds of things for said device he is going to get. He gets the device and then oh but he doesn't have time because of school. If he doesn't have time he should say so and not have people give him a phone.
Anyone who was with the GS3 from day 1 knows I did more for that device than Joelz ever has, and I didn't do much.
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I'll bet we could still go into the rezound forum and dig up one of his old threads for pokemon rom and show where he was accused of putting out failed ROMs and agreeing be did. Probably can find the thread of him trying to sell it. Probably can show people complaining it was taking 2+months for updates. Probably can find the donatuon thread in the GS3 section that showed the protest overall this and him agreeing to not do that with the GS3 then to fail at releasing anything there.
See he lucks out as mods will protect him because he never asks for a donated device. Someone always comes in and praises him and says how great he is, he comes in and says he will do XYZ if he gets the phone and then tada phone given, a few failed releases and he is gone. He never actually breaks XDA rules but that doesn't mean he doesn't con people.
More than once he said he would do all kinds of things for said device he is going to get. He gets the device and then oh but he doesn't have time because of school. If he doesn't have time he should say so and not have people give him a phone.
Anyone who was with the GS3 from day 1 knows I did more for that device than Joelz ever has, and I didn't do much.
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Tis true. Making that first deodex stock rom was sickk. Hence why I support both parties. Bamf's name shouldn't be totally trashed because of only Joelz
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I'll bet we could still go into the rezound forum and dig up one of his old threads for pokemon rom and show where he was accused of putting out failed ROMs and agreeing be did. Probably can find the thread of him trying to sell it. Probably can show people complaining it was taking 2+months for updates. Probably can find the donatuon thread in the GS3 section that showed the protest overall this and him agreeing to not do that with the GS3 then to fail at releasing anything there.
See he lucks out as mods will protect him because he never asks for a donated device. Someone always comes in and praises him and says how great he is, he comes in and says he will do XYZ if he gets the phone and then tada phone given, a few failed releases and he is gone. He never actually breaks XDA rules but that doesn't mean he doesn't con people.
More than once he said he would do all kinds of things for said device he is going to get. He gets the device and then oh but he doesn't have time because of school. If he doesn't have time he should say so and not have people give him a phone.
Anyone who was with the GS3 from day 1 knows I did more for that device than Joelz ever has, and I didn't do much.
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Youre damned right you did more than he did, and yes I was there from day 1.
Thats partially where my distaste for him comes from, and thereby my distaste for BAMF because by not acting it gave the impression that they could give a **** about Joelz actions, as if they could care less that he was doing all that. Not saying that's the case, just the impression I was given, and still have since he is still a member, by the whole situation. The reason I am given that impression mainly is because I dont know how they haven't heard of this situation before, I thought there was another member of BAMF that posted with fair frequency on the threads on the S3 but I cannot remember for the life of me what his name was and may be wrong, and I dont know how they havent caught wind of it because it was a huge issue on the S3 forums and from what I understood it was on the rezound forums too. I know people can get busy and not have time to do everything they want or need to and that a lot of BAMF doesnt come to XDA because of the drama, on the same hand though the reason a lot of people dislike BAMF and the reason I have a terrible impression of the team is because of Joelz actions and how he was never reprimanded.
I also was given the impression that Joelz had more than a loose connection by how he and other spoke about his position in the team, he always talked how he was so high up in the team and was backed up.
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Tis true. Making that first deodex stock rom was sickk. Hence why I support both parties. Bamf's name shouldn't be totally trashed because of only Joelz
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Agreed but the reason a lot of people have bad opinions, and the reason I am put off by BAMF, is because their first interactions with BAMF was thru Joelz and his actions made the rest of the team look bad when he wasn't reprimanded.
Not saying its right, the impression I have gotten from the OP and adrynalyne is excellent, but thats the way humans read situations. If someone froma group does wrong while using the name of the group and isn't reprimanded or thrown out it looks bad.
I am not flaming BAMF with this post or any of my others, just to explain the reasoning behind the distaste that was caused by Joelz bad actions while using the BAMF name.
BTW I thought I recognized you from the S3 forums when I moved to the N2 but wasn't sure. Nice to see another name I recognize here!
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Hey guys no offense or anything, but none of the founding guys at Team BAMF really gives a damn about anything anyone thinks. We are a group of friends who enjoy tinkering with stuff when time permits. We all have careers, hobbies, and most importantly families and lives.
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You don't care what I think? /me cries :crying:
I miss you guys from my Rezound. It was always my go to Rom. Glad to see BAMF on the Note.
I'm excited to see the note with team Bamf! I don't know joelz and the whole situation. I know the original members from the thunderbolt and the Samsung Omnia back in winmo days.
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Im not quite understanding why people keep bring this up. Your beating a dead horse here! It has been a year since all the **** went down in the rezound forum, but yet it still keeps on coming up. I understand the animosity towards joelz in this forum, but quite honestly I couldnt give 2 ****s about it. Look, people donated, and he made a rom. Who is to say how many roms/updates are required to fulfill or payback for a donated device? As far as I know, there are no contacts here. I will say this, never in my day, has anyone come up to me and said "look, Ill buy you a welder if you do some work for me, and dont worry about a contact, I trust you." It doesnt work like that. I understand that majority of people on here are young and nieve to lifes bull****, but people need to move on and take this as a life lesson. I think mods should close down any donation threads on here to prevent any this from happening again. I like bamf, I think they put out a good product, as do the majority of the other devs on this forum. If joelz has done what everybody says he's done, it really shows his character and the mods should do something about it.
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Youre damned right you did more than he did, and yes I was there from day 1.
Thats partially where my distaste for him comes from, and thereby my distaste for BAMF because by not acting it gave the impression that they could give a **** about Joelz actions, as if they could care less that he was doing all that. Not saying that's the case, just the impression I was given, and still have since he is still a member, by the whole situation. The reason I am given that impression mainly is because I dont know how they haven't heard of this situation before, I thought there was another member of BAMF that posted with fair frequency on the threads on the S3 but I cannot remember for the life of me what his name was and may be wrong, and I dont know how they havent caught wind of it because it was a huge issue on the S3 forums and from what I understood it was on the rezound forums too. I know people can get busy and not have time to do everything they want or need to and that a lot of BAMF doesnt come to XDA because of the drama, on the same hand though the reason a lot of people dislike BAMF and the reason I have a terrible impression of the team is because of Joelz actions and how he was never reprimanded.
I also was given the impression that Joelz had more than a loose connection by how he and other spoke about his position in the team, he always talked how he was so high up in the team and was backed up.
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Agreed but the reason a lot of people have bad opinions, and the reason I am put off by BAMF, is because their first interactions with BAMF was thru Joelz and his actions made the rest of the team look bad when he wasn't reprimanded.
Not saying its right, the impression I have gotten from the OP and adrynalyne is excellent, but thats the way humans read situations. If someone froma group does wrong while using the name of the group and isn't reprimanded or thrown out it looks bad.
I am not flaming BAMF with this post or any of my others, just to explain the reasoning behind the distaste that was caused by Joelz bad actions while using the BAMF name.
BTW I thought I recognized you from the S3 forums when I moved to the N2 but wasn't sure. Nice to see another name I recognize here!
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Do you make assumptions like that in real life? None of us are his keeper. We are all grown men. He has always had different devices than me or the others. Again, show me some of what you are talking about. If these things are true, they will be handled because we don't play that ****.
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Do you make assumptions like that in real life? None of us are his keeper. We are all grown men. He has always had different devices than me or the others. Again, show me some of what you are talking about. If these things are true, they will be handled because we don't play that ****.
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Yes I actually do, im a grown man also and if I have a group and catch even the remotest wind that someone in my group is giving it a bad name I would research it until I found out the truth. Thats the way it goes in the real world, if someone is a member of your group and they misrepresent it then that goves the whole group a bad name when there are no reprimands.
As for researching it I am leaving it up to nosympathy for the time because last timr this discussion got brought up he had the threads from all the devices save where the only one I know how to find is the S3 thread. And honestly I dont know if the mods have deleted all the evidence yet or not, the deleted quite a bit of it while the conversation was in its prime. If nosympathy cant or doesnt want to look it up again I will look through the XDA post and see if there is anything left after the mods edited it.
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Bradh024 said:
Im not quite understanding why people keep bring this up. Your beating a dead horse here! It has been a year since all the **** went down in the rezound forum, but yet it still keeps on coming up. I understand the animosity towards joelz in this forum, but quite honestly I couldnt give 2 ****s about it. Look, people donated, and he made a rom. Who is to say how many roms/updates are required to fulfill or payback for a donated device? As far as I know, there are no contacts here. I will say this, never in my day, has anyone come up to me and said "look, Ill buy you a welder if you do some work for me, and dont worry about a contact, I trust you." It doesnt work like that. I understand that majority of people on here are young and nieve to lifes bull****, but people need to move on and take this as a life lesson. I think mods should close down any donation threads on here to prevent any this from happening again. I like bamf, I think they put out a good product, as do the majority of the other devs on this forum. If joelz has done what everybody says he's done, it really shows his character and the mods should do something about it.
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I agree with you about donation threads, they shoulsnt be allowed at all anymore on XDA thanks to all the bad **** thats happened.
As for him not being reprimanded, that is because the mods were on his side because technically he did not break XDAs rules, which need to be adjusted to move on with the times, on the subject and because one of them was a fan of Joelz.
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shangrila500 said:
Yes I actually do, im a grown man also and if I have a group and catch even the remotest wind that someone in my group is giving it a bad name I would research it until I found out the truth. Thats the way it goes in the real world, if someone is a member of your group and they misrepresent it then that goves the whole group a bad name when there are no reprimands.
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LOL. Like someone said above, he was given a phone and made a ROM for it. Did he promise to keep developing stuff for it? Did he lead people on? How the f do I know? I don't look through all the device threads on XDA. Do you paruse the RAZR threads? I sure as hell don't. Same with any other device I don't freaking have. You telling us is catching "The remotest wind".. Whatever that is. I will find out though. And after all this BS, it better be true and not some prima donna BS from some bored XDA members.
thatdudebutch said:
LOL. Like someone said above, he was given a phone and made a ROM for it. Did he promise to keep developing stuff for it? Did he lead people on? How the f do I know? I don't look through all the device threads on XDA. Do you paruse the RAZR threads? I sure as hell don't. Same with any other device I don't freaking have. You telling us is catching "The remotest wind".. Whatever that is. I will find out though. And after all this BS, it better be true and not some prima donna BS from some bored XDA members.
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No I dont monitor them all the time but as big as this was I find it hard to believe that word did not reach you. And the problem isnt that he stopped devlopment for the rom he made, the problem is is that he tricked people into donating because they wanted BAMF on their phones and then he never delivered. Thats not even the biggest issue, thats something thay happens every day that I overlook, the worst part was when he tried to sell the goddamned device before he had put out anything. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions. That was wiped off the thread as soon as it was posted though, I used to have a screen shot of that but after 5 or 6 HDD wipes it is long long gone. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms against Joelz, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions.
As for him promising to keep developing for it, yes he did many many times.
What I have tried to say nicely is that I find it hard to believe that a lot of hardcore BAMF lovers that donsted didnt post or email or whatever someone on your website to get some of your attention. It may nit have happened but I still find it hard to believe. If I had any experience with BAMF before I would have emailed one of you immediately but as this was my first experience I had no clue about your website until way way later.
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shangrila500 said:
No I dont monitor them all the time but as big as this was I find it hard to believe that word did not reach you. And the problem isnt that he stopped devlopment for the rom he made, the problem is is that he tricked people into donating because they wanted BAMF on their phones and then he never delivered. Thats not even the biggest issue, thats something thay happens every day that I overlook, the worst part was when he tried to sell the goddamned device before he had put out anything. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions. That was wiped off the thread as soon as it was posted though, I used to have a screen shot of that but after 5 or 6 HDD wipes it is long long gone. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms against Joelz, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions.
As for him promising to keep developing for it, yes he did many many times.
What I have tried to say nicely is that I find it hard to believe that a lot of hardcore BAMF lovers that donsted didnt post or email or whatever someone on your website to get some of your attention. It may nit have happened but I still find it hard to believe. If I had any experience with BAMF before I would have emailed one of you immediately but as this was my first experience I had no clue about your website until way way later.
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Nobody told us anything. That's why I find the whole thing far fetched. I just read the whole other thread about all this drama. Eris told you what the deal was. He's not a liar, and is a good friend. If he says Joel intentions were good and he did what he said he would do, then I have nothing further to add to the subject. None of us give a **** enough to lie. Show us something to the contrary about the situation and we can discuss further. Already wasted enough brain cells on these threads. Thanks for that.
So look, anyone who knows us, knows we update when we feel like it. It may take a week, it may take 4 months. Frankly, we don't care, because as Butch says, we do it for us. It's a happy bonus that we share with everyone else. Hell, Paradigm was 6 months late to the party on the Nexus, and it worked from day one there.
If you want to blame anyone for not having a ROM on the Rezound or the S3, you can blame me. I am the one that determines whether they are ready for prime time, and neither one is. Joel has worked his ass off, but hit a brick wall on a feature I deem rather important (in-call volume). That is literally the only thing that kept the S3 ROM from being released. And it's not for lack of trying, he just doesn't know C++(nor do I) well enough to fix the issues.
You don't believe he's still actively working on it? The proof is right there in front of you. His bitbucket handle is boss. You want a ROM so you can shut up about him stealing your damn donated phone? I'll build one tonight. And it will have broken in-call volume. Will that please everyone?
I mean really, Joelz is a good guy, but he's a kid. When I was his age I was trying to get drunk and laid, not build ROMs from hundreds of thousands of lines of indecipherable source code. Until you can build your own, how about everyone just stfu.
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Nobody told us anything. That's why I find the whole thing far fetched. I just read the whole other thread about all this drama. Eris told you what the deal was. He's not a liar, and is a good friend. If he says Joel intentions were good and he did what he said he would do, then I have nothing further to add to the subject. None of us give a **** enough to lie. Show us something to the contrary about the situation and we can discuss further. Already wasted enough brain cells on these thread. Thanks for that.
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Ah so youre locking the thread so no one else can reply? Im still looking for unedited screenshots of the conversations seeing as how all the threads are heavily editited. But you dont care you want to call people out and then lock the thread because otherwise you look as bad as Joelz for not reprimanding him.
And you dont believe it when there are 2 people that have a huge problem in the N2 thread, go post in the d2vzw thread and see what happens. You'll get the normal crazies but there are a lot of people there still burnt.
And Eris said he found it hard to believe and Joelz had offered the phone to him for development. Not saying he is lying just that he wasnt there when it happened so how can he know?
And from what I can tell from just a little looking through the threads trying to find a screenshot I see something about Butch with BAMF pulling a bait and switch on the X2, would that happen to be you?
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erishasnobattery said:
So look, anyone who knows us, knows we update when we feel like it. It may take a week, it may take 4 months. Frankly, we don't care, because as Butch says, we do it for us. It's a happy bonus that we share with everyone else. Hell, Paradigm was 6 months late to the party on the Nexus, and it worked from day one there.
If you want to blame anyone for not having a ROM on the Rezound or the S3, you can blame me. I am the one that determines whether they are ready for prime time, and neither one is. Joel has worked his ass off, but hit a brick wall on a feature I deem rather important (in-call volume). That is literally the only thing that kept the S3 ROM from being released. And it's not for lack of trying, he just doesn't know C++(nor do I) well enough to fix the issues.
You don't believe he's still actively working on it? The proof is right there in front of you. His bitbucket handle is boss. You want a ROM so you can shut up about him stealing your damn donated phone? I'll build one tonight. And it will have broken in-call volume. Will that please everyone?
I mean really, Joelz is a good guy, but he's a kid. When I was his age I was trying to get drunk and laid, not build ROMs from hundreds of thousands of lines of indecipherable source code. Until you can build your own, how about everyone just stfu.
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Ahh yes, the infamous AOSP rom. What about the BAMF rom that he used as his ticket to getting the phone?
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There you go.. Happy now? Can we all go back to playing around with Android? Geez.
shangrila500 said:
Ah so youre locking the thread so no one else can reply? Im still looking for unedited screenshots of the conversations seeing as how all the threads are heavily editited. But you dont care you want to call people out and then lock the thread because otherwise you look as bad as Joelz for not reprimanding him.
And you dont believe it when there are 2 people that have a huge problem in the N2 thread, go post in the d2vzw thread and see what happens. You'll get the normal crazies but there are a lot of people there still burnt.
And Eris said he found it hard to believe and Joelz had offered the phone to him for development. Not saying he is lying just that he wasnt there when it happened so how can he know?
And from what I can tell from just a little looking through the threads trying to find a screenshot I see something about Butch with BAMF pulling a bait and switch on the X2, would that happen to be you?
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Ahh yes, the infamous AOSP rom. What about the BAMF rom that he used as his ticket to getting the phone?
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BAMF Paradigm was his ticket to the phone. Which is AOSP.
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thatdudebutch said:
There you go.. Happy now? Can we all go back to playing around with Android? Geez.
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Don't worry, im done talking to you. I was looking for proof until I came across that little tidbit about you on the X2, now I know no matter how much proof we show you you still wont do anything. I am not going to waste my breath or my time on you or your team anymore, no matter what happens you wont so anything. I have better things to do with my time than trying to prove something to a person that obviously doesn't give a ****.
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erishasnobattery said:
BAMF Paradigm was his ticket to the phone. Which is AOSP.
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Forgive me, seeing as how it is not BAMF Paradigm that has been posted but pure AOSP. From what o understand Paradigm has a few of BAMFs tweak and mods in it and what Joelz put out to begin with was nothing but AOSP without BAMFs tweaks.
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shangrila500 said:
Don't worry, im done talking to you. I was looking for proof until I came across that little tidbit about you on the X2, now I know no matter how much proof we show you you still wont do anything. I am not going to waste my breath or my time on you or your team anymore, no matter what happens you wont so anything. I have better things to do with my time than trying to prove something to a person that obviously doesn't give a ****.
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LOL. What because I decided blur was a horrible idea to mod, so by a show of hands we decided to contribute the device to CM so they could at least get those guys an AOSP ROM? You decide to "give up" on talking about it once Eris shows you proof. And to think I wasted time trying to understand your "problem." The problem is you. Don't worry, take your self serving holier than though attitude over to Rootzwiki with all the other cool teenagers. While you are at it put on your unicorn shirt, talk more ****, and contribute nothing to anything, which is apparent by a quick check of your profile.
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You've been here three years and never once CONTRIBUTED. Every thread is you asking for something. Locking this garbage thread now, since everything you touch seems to smell like ****. Have a good weekend.