I'm getting a Flyer from Best Buy in a couple of weeks and was wondering are some of them shipping with S-OFF???
I doubt any unopened units are S-OFF. You might get an open box that has been returned that way. Why do you ask?
DigitalMD said:
I doubt any unopened units are S-OFF. You might get an open box that has been returned that way. Why do you ask?
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I thought I read somewhere that some of them shipped with S-OFF. Maybe they meant not in North America. I have the EVO 4G so I know what needs to be done on it.
Maybe with unlocked bootloader but I don't think with native S-off.
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Yeah, don't confuse S-off with Unlock, they are not the same, S-OFF allows flashing of the radio and other protected firmware. Unlock allows for root, but not for flashing the radio.
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It's been a couple months. Any update to S-Off for 1.50 version users?
The current update below
Status:no update.
I know it's a ***** to wait.
It won't happen. Sorry but EVO 3d days blow.
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life64x said:
The current update below
Status:no update.
I know it's a ***** to wait.
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Funny but is the truth
from my shooter rocking myns ROM
Ics is suppose to come with unlocked bootloader what I read maybe wrong
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blazerboy567 said:
Ics is suppose to come with unlocked bootloader what I read maybe wrong
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I doubt anything is ever going to come with an unlocked bootloader. People could mess up their phones and say it happened during an OTA. They won't be able to tell if it was really during an OTA or they did it themselves since the person would have S-OFF either way. They would either have to cancel their warranty or not have phones with unlocked bootloaders.
I understand the wait, but at least some word from Rev; 'hey guys still working on the 1.50 hboot unlock...' .
Here is what pisses me off royally. See, HTC is requiring users to sign a electronic document that bypasses the Magnuson Moss Act; requires manufactures to prove that the alteration is what caused the warranty claim. Ie, car owner comes to the dealership because engine blew. Dealership notices that owner put on aftermarket exhaust, dealership will not warranty the engine. HTC is technically bypassing all that stating that rooting your phone, you are opting out of any factory or extended warranty. Ie, phone no turny on, HTC > You = po3ned . Sure they'll take a look at it, only to tell you that it is now going to cost you $xxx.xx to fix it.
Its odd that they say unlock the phone but all they do is unlock the mmc protection to the file system and still void parts of the warranty.
The boot partition where the kernel lives is still protected and unflashable without using the work around.
Seems to me they are benefiting from this "unlock" more than anyone.
first of all htc never said that.
second we deal with sprint, not htc.
lafester said:
first of all htc never said that.
second we deal with sprint, not htc.
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You make a very good point, but I have one word for you; partnership. If you go back and read HTC and Sprint's Terms and Agreements it states that by agreeing to the T&A you are allowing the sharing of information. If Sprint says that by agreeing to the unlock you void the 'manufacture's' warranty, then you are doing just that by agreeing to the unlock.
But again, I applaud you for thinking outside the box. For once some people are beginning to see behind the facade.
You can flash everything but radios , correct me if I'm wrong
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lafester said:
first of all htc never said that.
second we deal with sprint, not htc.
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Htc never said what? Did you even read the thing you agreed to when you went to use their "unlock"?
The manufacturer 1 year warranty is done with HTC not Sprint
Or are you talking about something ibcompletely missed.....
ktrotter11 said:
You can flash everything but radios , correct me if I'm wrong
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Or kernels. But you can use fasboot...
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Got my Amaze a couple days ago and im loving it! But im reading reports on HTCdev and not having a way to install custom roms by locking the bootloader. I came from a Xperia X10 and loved custom roms i looked through some here and they look even better, but this bummed me out is there any news on this? Im reading reports of work-arounds?
There's nothing we can do about it right now. The HTC Dev only has Amaze 4G - T-Mobile in it's list. I'm worried small networks like wind and mobilicity won't bother giving us that option.. I got mine from mobilicity for $499, I would've gotten it from telus if there wasn't much price difference.. Telus has more chances of getting added to the list..
For now I'm just wondering if anyone has some knowledge on this, can we change the CID (Carrier ID) on our wind, telus or mobilicity phones so that we can trick the htc dev website into thinking that it's a T-Mobile phone? jussayin'
the only way you can do that is by changing ur phone's IMEI but nobody gonna tell you how to do it because they end up in prison.
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But what if I do it for a lilll bit of time and change it as soon as i unlock my phones bootloader and then revert it back to it's original IMEI. That shouldn't hurt anyone
the only way to change it to a tmobile cid would require having s-off so no such luck i would say sell the amaze that you have for what you can get or return it it just came out for wind and import a tmobile amaze it has penta band suport so it will do 4g on all the networks up there
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the only way to change it to a tmobile cid would require having s-off so no such luck i would say sell the amaze that you have for what you can get or return it it just came out for wind and import a tmobile amaze it has penta band suport so it will do 4g on all the networks up there
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Can't return it, got it in a promotion And I don't want to get into the hassle of selling and buying another again cause I sold Galaxy SII to get this phone added 100$ on top of that to get this So I'm outta of luck for now.
Do you think there's any chance there'll be a 2nd method of unlocking the bootloader in the future other than the official HTC method?
If you get the unlock code from Wind/Mobilocity and unlock it for any network you should have no problem selling it for $400+ on eBay or XDA Marketplace and being able to pick up a T-Mobile one unlocked for $420-$450.
I unlocked my Telus amaze even though it's "not supported". Have you tried?
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Snargaflab said:
I unlocked my Telus amaze even though it's "not supported". Have you tried?
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I tried it tonight with the WIND variant of the Amaze 4G no go, like the others I cant return mine either so for the moment we are stuck hoping eventually HTCDev adds our version and mobilicity's to the list of supported devices. I have prodded them through all avenues I can think of who knows maybe if enough of us make a nuisance of ourselves they might take pity on us
One can still root the phone and install the clockworkmod and 3rd party rom.
how? isnt it just a temp root?
Amaze costs me 569 bucks because I bought it full price. That's with taxes, but yeah you could get like 450 bucks if you sell, its practically a new phone
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I got my Amaze from a Telus customer for cheap. Used the HTCDev site and unlocked it without issue. Running great with Mobilicity now.
Is getting it unlocked the main issue people are having? Cause I have yet to install custom roms, but from what I can see I shouldn't have any issues?
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I got my Amaze from a Telus customer for cheap. Used the HTCDev site and unlocked it without issue. Running great with Mobilicity now.
Is getting it unlocked the main issue people are having? Cause I have yet to install custom roms, but from what I can see I shouldn't have any issues?
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Same here. Bought from someone on Telus unlocked and using on Mobi. I can install any rom.
I bought the htc amaze wind version from a guy on craigslist and it was already rooted and running energy rom
Edit: FFS, this was a dead topic. Please lock/close/something.
So S-On and unlocked has the image of being unable to flash radios, and also have the bad rap that you can't flash kernels without going through fastboot......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689824
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1692367
Whats that? kernels flashed directly from recovery on S-ON Devices which are unlocked....(still trying to confirm this one as showp and faux over in one x still list it in the instructions of their kernels)...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26987841&postcount=966
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
Oh you want to flash your little radios all day long?.....
Just an example people shouldn't worry too much about S-On devices....development always prevails.
would more than welcome any RD or ERD to chime in on this too and explain it a little more or dispute it if they see fit.
lil more talk on it kinda...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639972&page=99
I was wondering this myself. Thanks for the references
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So S-On and unlocked has the image of being unable to flash radios, and also have the bad rap that you can't flash kernels without going through fastboot......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689824
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1692367
Whats that? kernels flashed directly from recovery on S-ON Devices which are unlocked....(still trying to confirm this one as showp and faux over in one x still list it in the instructions of their kernels)...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26987841&postcount=966
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
Oh you want to flash your little radios all day long?.....
Just an example people shouldn't worry too much about S-On devices....development always prevails.
would more than welcome any RD or ERD to chime in on this too and explain it a little more or dispute it if they see fit.
lil more talk on it kinda...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1639972&page=99
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Where is that guy watermelonslim.....I could use a good laugh
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swaze said:
Where is that guy watermelonslim.....I could use a good laugh
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hahahahahaha good times there. lol
"i wanna flash my radios tho..."
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hahahahahaha good times there. lol
"i wanna flash my radios tho..."
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I can PM him and tell him to come on over LOL
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I agree, for now there's little benefit of having s-off. For me, I prefer not to have my device listed in htc's database as being unlocked.
More importantly however, once there are other updates such as radios, and other low level updates, the process to update will become more convoluted I think. You'll have to run relock (I think), then ruu, then unlock again, then restore.
With S-off, you simply flash the new radio or other update and it's a done deal.
Wouldn't s-off be necessary for switching between carriers? Since LTE wouldn't be available until 2013 for some markets why not save a few dollars.
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StonePure said:
Wouldn't s-off be necessary for switching between carriers? Since LTE wouldn't be available until 2013 for some markets why not save a few dollars.
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your not switching b/w carriers with this device....even with S-Off....hardware is not there to work on the other freq, esp other LTE ones....
Well that reinforces why I am sticking with my OG EVO 4g on Virgin, I just can't stand to pay $90 mo for the same service at $35 mo.
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Interesting... thanks! I needed to know this!
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I just like having s-off lol but with dev unlock improved it doesn't matter as much now
I typed too soon... Someone may have already have this beauty on cricket. If that is the case s-off isn't necessary.
Ok off to buy this beauty before they alter it somehow - besides I can gift it off to girlfriend if it can't be done.
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I care about my warranty. No other reason.
Evo_Shift said:
I care about my warranty. No other reason.
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Are you sending your phone to HTC for warranty issues because "most" device "fixing" happens at the Sprint store level OR through Asurion and they don't hold root/HTC Dev unlock against you.
Saving your HTC warranty is practically a moot point..... but as always, to each, his own. I'm sure you won't see anyone knocking you for going your own road.
I don't waste money on insurance. Once I've had the phone a couple weeks and know it doesn't have any defects i don't care but in the first few weeks i do.
I didn't realize sprint didn't care about unlocking though. I am surprised people are always so concerned with unrooting when bringing their phones in for issues in that case.
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I don't waste money on insurance. Once I've had the phone a couple weeks and know it doesn't have any defects i don't care but in the first few weeks i do.
I didn't realize sprint didn't care about unlocking though. I am surprised people are always so concerned with unrooting when bringing their phones in for issues in that case.
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I'm not talking about insurance, Sprint can't (shouldn't) turn you away for warranty issues of any kind (*within the warranty period). If you remove TEP, $8 and soon to be $11, which includes the ERP (Equipment Replacement Program) and the ESRP (Equipment Service & Replacement Program) you can still pay in store for a repair and avoid having to go through, what I'm sure would be, a painful warranty claim with HTC. I actually don't even think HTC would not honor their warranty if you use the Unlock and need a "hardware" warranty claim having absolutely nothing to do with rooting the device. Who knows though.... I do know, if you have no insurance or the ESRP at minimum, you'll be looking at a charge or the HTC direct route. I would recommend at least the $4 a month ESRP as we know how speakers and screens can be (at least in the past) the weakest links and need replacement.
As for the rooted devices being ok (this is very new and the worry before was pretty real), you can read an article and see the internal memo here http://www.androrev.com/2012/04/17/...-provide-customer-support-for-rooted-devices/. With that said, I'll never voluntarily take my rooted device in, they don't need know that info!
I never s on my device I just unroot lol o and take my sdcard out just in case but you have to be brave to not take your sd card out if you have personal things on there.
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Well that reinforces why I am sticking with my OG EVO 4g on Virgin, I just can't stand to pay $90 mo for the same service at $35 mo.
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Ohhhhh you ment carrier as in cricket or Virgin...gotcha. yeah dunno if SOFF would be req for that on here still or not.
When I originally responded I thought you meant like ATT or VZ b/c you mentioned LTE bands and they are completely different there for those on top of ATT being gsm...
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Ohhhhh you ment carrier as in cricket or Virgin...gotcha. yeah dunno if SOFF would be req for that on here still or not.
When I originally responded I thought you meant like ATT or VZ b/c you mentioned LTE bands and they are completely different there for those on top of ATT being gsm...
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Does anyone know if we can change splash screens on this phone with S-ON? I only ask because i know on the 3d we couldnt do kernels thru recovery but we can now, i didnt know if it would be possible or not.
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Hey does anyone know of a method that gives soff for the dna? You guys unlocking using the unlock bootloader site do realize that there are methods better than that on other similar devices. When i got my evo lte i used a method that gave root and soff and i never unlocked anything. Think im gonna wait a few and give it time.
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thetunicakid said:
Hey does anyone know of a method that gives soff for the dna? You guys unlocking using the unlock bootloader site do realize that there are methods better than that on other similar devices. When i got my evo lte i used a method that gave root and soff and i never unlocked anything. Think im gonna wait a few and give it time.
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obviously s-off is preferable to dev unlock
however, in lieu of no current s-off method, dev unlock is better than nothing
They will find one. They always do.
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however, in lieu of no current s-off method, dev unlock is better than nothing
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Has it been confirmed that the DNA will be unlockable on HTCdev? It's up to the carrier and after what VZW pulled with the SGS3 it'll be interesting to see their approach to voluntarily allowing the DNA to be unlocked. It'll be equally interesting to see their approach to warranty service if they do allow it to be unlocked. The One XL folks lucked out and were able to get S-OFF themselves. The equally bright devs on the One X forum haven't had the same luck and it wasn't for lack of trying.
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Has it been confirmed that the DNA will be unlockable on HTCdev? It's up to the carrier and after what VZW pulled with the SGS3 it'll be interesting to see their approach to voluntarily allowing the DNA to be unlocked. It'll be equally interesting to see their approach to warranty service if they do allow it to be unlocked. The One XL folks lucked out and were able to get S-OFF themselves. The equally bright devs on the One X forum haven't had the same luck and it wasn't for lack of trying.
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I dev unlocked my rezound and had no problems getting a replacement when memory failed. I think they threaten it, but verizon doesn't care for exchanges. HTC though, might.
I don't know actually. I might get this phone.
BarryH_GEG said:
Has it been confirmed that the DNA will be unlockable on HTCdev? It's up to the carrier and after what VZW pulled with the SGS3 it'll be interesting to see their approach to voluntarily allowing the DNA to be unlocked. It'll be equally interesting to see their approach to warranty service if they do allow it to be unlocked. The One XL folks lucked out and were able to get S-OFF themselves. The equally bright devs on the One X forum haven't had the same luck and it wasn't for lack of trying.
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One xl does not have s-off. In fact, no modern HTC phones withOUT sdcard have soff yet.
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I plan to return my EVO tomorrow to avoid ETF. My question is, is it ok if I leave my EVO S-off and Unlocked?
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I plan to return my EVO tomorrow to avoid ETF. My question is, is it ok if I leave my EVO S-off and Unlocked?
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not clear as to how you're avoiding an ETF by returning a year-old phone, but in any case: it seems unnecessarily risky to return your phone S-OFF and unlocked, as it's considered a violation of your warranty.
you could easily return it to locked and S-ON status, why not take half an hour and do it real quick?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38424514
No sent it to me and ill send mine to u. That way ihave s-off since cant seem get there.
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not clear as to how you're avoiding an ETF by returning a year-old phone, but in any case: it seems unnecessarily risky to return your phone S-OFF and unlocked, as it's considered a violation of your warranty.
you could easily return it to locked and S-ON status, why not take half an hour and do it real quick?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38424514
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They waived the ETF using the old No Coverage trick.Ported my number to Tmo a week ago and bought the One.
Thanks for the link tho.