Hey Guys!
So after reading a post on G+ from +Dan Morrill which I am to new to link to I just had to ask if anyone is aware of when/if ICS will be available in the DX2 or, and more importantly, if anyone is going to begin work on it now that the source is available. Now, I'm not an expert with ROMs but I am an experienced programmer so I don't know exactly how huge of a step this is in getting the version of the OS on the DX2, but it seems to me pretty important.
Just checking in,
bericp1
There is a slight chance that we might see it in an official release from motorola but that won't be more likely till next year if at all. Yes the source might be out today but we'll only see ics elements incorporated into a rom but not the actual 4.0 experience because of the locked bootloader. We need access to the kernel which our cheesecake friends are looking hard for.
I'm pretty sure we'll get it. When is a whole different question... when you look at the X2's hardware, there seems to be no reason it shouldn't get it. However, knowing how IT works, specifically software engineering, the age old problem of Faster, Cheaper, and More Effecient makes the DX2, Atrix, Photon, and Electrify look unlikely to receive it for a long while(although since those guys have access to the boot loader, it's a moot point) .
Long story short: meh, at least it's a fun phone with good battery life.
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hi guys,
I know this has been asked already, but all I see are very old threads and a lot has changed since.
Since the Galaxy SII and sensation are available now, so my question is should I buy an Atrix or should i look for other options. I am asking this question here as most of the people are using Atrix and can better tell how the phone is. If given a second chance will you buy Atrix again ?
It really depends on the money you want to spend. I got the Atrix for $99 on contract, so it was attractive to me. The higher res display was also a plus for me. When the GB update comes it'll be nice to have the 1080p recording. Also the lapdock function works fantastically for me. I travel a lot and it's nice to be able to use my phone as a laptop and charge it at the same time.
But the Galaxy S2 has a slightly faster CPU, same RAM and the display is leagues ahead in color reproduction. Seriously, looking at them is sort of unnerving because of the ridiculously bright colors.
Otherwise I'm sure they're fairly comparable.
Decide for yourself, then you can't come back here and complain to us when you're not happy.
well i have had most of the latest android phones out there at the moment and currently have the Atrix.
Things i like about it are...
1. The size, i find that the 4" screen and overall size of the phone are perfect for me, fits great in the hand and i can select most things with one hand.
2. Screen quality is great..more 'natural' than the galaxy s2, just a shame they didnt coat the screen in the same way to resist fingerprints
3. Call quality is excellent, audio quality through headphones i find to be really good (i use Klipsch x10) and it sounds great.
4. External speaker is one of the best ive known on a phone, better than the iphone 4 and galaxy s2...yes ive owned both.
5. notification led....many of the current android phones seem to leave this out but im glad the Atrix has one as its really useful.
Things i dont like....
1. 2.2 Froyo....really, along with moto-blur nearly ruin a great phone. The phone really dosent perform like a 2 core phone. However, this can be improved by using an alternative launcher like ADW ex....thats what i am using and makes scrolling between screens much smoother and less laggy.
2. The wait for gingerbread.....Motorola could be onto a big fail like sony ericcson did when they brought out the xperia x10 with android 1.6...it had everything going for it then they slaughterd it with 1.6! crazy!
Other than the fact that it is let down by having froyo i like everything else about the phone..infact i probably find it worse than others might because i have owned the galaxy s2 quite recently (sold because it was too big for me to hold in one hand) and that phone is fantastic. Very smooth and very quick...this really is where the Atrix should be
Just my view of course...
will i stick with the Atrix?.......well if gingerbread comes out in the next couple of weeks then there is every chance...if not....well i like the look of the xperia neo
these are the facts
this phone is awesome
it sucks in the same respect bc nobody, wants to dev for it, i have not seen a single anything in the last 6 months, and finally we get a leaked buggy build from hongkong and an unlocked bl
id say 90% of atrix script kiddies on here suck
, all they do is ***** about release dates, and when is cyanogen coming, and when someone finally releases something, they troll the boards just ripping the guy a new a**hole
this phone is great but if you like modding your phone and flashing custom roms
this phone will never be there in my opinion,
and it doesnt even need an xda portal bc nothing is being developed, just gingerbread skins
and questions being asked over and over and over.
so in conclusion buy the gs2 if you like roms go to that thread , theres a ton
and if you like a great phone thats small and has a high resolution, and will probably never see a custom rom, but is stable, buy the atrix
seanzscreams said:
these are the facts
this phone is awesome
it sucks in the same respect bc nobody, wants to dev for it, i have not seen a single anything in the last 6 months, and finally we get a leaked buggy build from hongkong and an unlocked bl
id say 90% of atrix script kiddies on here suck
, all they do is ***** about release dates, and when is cyanogen coming, and when someone finally releases something, they troll the boards just ripping the guy a new a**hole
this phone is great but if you like modding your phone and flashing custom roms
this phone will never be there in my opinion,
and it doesnt even need an xda portal bc nothing is being developed, just gingerbread skins
and questions being asked over and over and over.
so in conclusion buy the gs2 if you like roms go to that thread , theres a ton
and if you like a great phone thats small and has a high resolution, and will probably never see a custom rom, but is stable, buy the atrix
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wohooo..that is like too much of hatred.
Let me put in some facts regarding the development in this one:-
The BL has just been unlocked and custom roms are being worked on, you need to follow the devs on twitter and check out the Atrix dev section on Rootzwiki, just go the irc chat and find out more.
Official GB should be released soon, if it is not then an Atrix has already been donated to the CM team and CM should come out for the Atrix.
The leaked 2.3.4 build has nearly been perfected and AFAIK it is fit for daily use.
thanks for all the suggestions. I am quite fond of flashing ROMs. I bought a HD2 just because of its ability for modifications. since there isn't much work being done on moding Atrix, I guess I'll have to opt for Galaxy SII (btw I didn't like it due to its size)
There is a ton of development going on now for the Atrix. The last couple of weeks has been insane as far as that goes. Official Gingerbread 2.3.4 is rumored to come out this month. There is a leaked version that is pretty stable out now. The boot-loader is now FINALLY unlock-able so DEVs are going to and have already started new Kernels and ROMs. Choice is yours though.
Nah..don't bother with the stupid 2.3.4 Chinese leak. Its buggy and some limited functionality. Don't really see the point of flashing to the leak 2.3.4 update then reflashing it with the official 2.3.4 update. Flash much!?
Buy the Atrix when the official 2.3.4 comes out and check back XDA after a couple of months when fully functional roms and themes comes out. No need to frustrate urself and end up like the other idiots who can't read and flashed 2.3.4 and screwed up. Alot of that been happening lately.
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Ok, please don't blast me, and I am not starting this thread to start a fight. I just really want some advice. I love the rezound, and I would like to get it over the Gnex as I don't like a lot of things about the Nex. However, I had the TB, and now the Bionic and I just don't want to be waiting on a never ending cycle to get to the lastest software(IE 4.0, 5.0 etc.) The reason I say this, is I know like with the TB it seems like the Devs have to build a whole new RIL in order to get the software to work with the hardware(at least in the GB and now the ICS update for the TB) and I don't want to have to wait for the same thing when JB comes out at the end of the year, but I also don't want to upgrade again in 6-9 months. I hope I have made my dilemma clear. I would like to know if you, as rezound owners, think this may happen, as I may just jump (regretfully) to the Gnex.
Also, Let me make this clear, I am in NO WAY degrading the Devs work here or else where, I am just impatient. And don't want to wait for many months for fully working roms that may or may not come. But there are a few main things I REALLY like on ICS, but the current build are just so buggy on my current devices that it's not worth using as a DD. Please don't think this is me fussing, or anything of the sort, it's just I'm looking for advice. Thanks.
The current ICS builds are pretty good. The devs did a great job with them.
As to your question about JB, only time will tell. I don't think that anyone has an answer to that.
I've had both BAMF's and Scott's ROMs on my Rezound, they are both very stable. The only thing HTC has said about the update regarding the Rezound is that it'll come later this year. It is not listed in the first batch of phones.
"According to HTC, we can expect to see the updates begin to roll out by the end of March for the original Sensation, Sensation 4G, Sensation XE, followed shortly there after by the Sensation XL. The following batch of devices will include the Rezound and Incredible S, but there is no time frame listed for that device other than, “later this year."
-Quoted from droid-life.com
I don't mean as much for ics as it appears to be currently working well on the device. I'm not shy about flashing. I'm just worried that the next version jelly bean may miss the device and it will be left to the devs to get it up and running. But that's been even harder on them recently, Atleast with my experience with the tbolt, as they have to built the Ril from the ground up, or so I understand. So I don't want to be stuck on current software. I'm not saying it will happen, I just want advice on whether I should take the chance with the rezound. I do really like the device.
It was my understanding that Jelly Bean was more like a Honeycomb release...
The operating system's next version jelly bean will be optimized for tablets
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Oh, I hadn't seen that. Thanks for the heads up.
Hello All,
I want to start off with a very big thank you to everyone in this community, everyone here has been very helpful to someone who is a general noob to HTC-Android devices (last HTC I owned was a TPII).
With that out of the way, I've had my Rezound for about a week and I love this phone. It feels great in the hand, has a gorgeous screen that is second to none, and an amazing camera that I'm happy to walk around with in case I need to grab a quick picture of something. Truly, this is a top notch device.
The problem I'm having is that after a week of owning this phone, I'm ready to leave stock. I was settled on CleanROM ICS for the time being until CM9 came out, but then I did some reading looking into CM9 which brought up a few questions.
1) What is S-Off and why is it important? Coming from a Droid X, I thought the important thing was an unlocked Bootloader. Why are other HTC Phones "S-Offed" and this one isn't? How does this affect ROM Development? Does this hurt the chances of CM9 making it to the Rezond (very hard to tell because they have not announced CM9 device support other than the G-Nex)?
2) What is the RIL and why is it important? This seems to be a problem amongst developers.
The main reason I bought this phone over the G-Nex was the SD-Card slot, the camera, and the screen. If development of an AOSP or AOKP is going to be lackluster because of the issues above, I still have one week to return the device and go back to my X for the time being. I will admit, I'm loving 4G, but I'm going to have this device for 2 years; I need to make sure I can get as much as I can out of this device.
Thank you as always for your answers!
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1) What is S-Off and why is it important? Coming from a Droid X, I thought the important thing was an unlocked Bootloader. Why are other HTC Phones "S-Offed" and this one isn't? How does this affect ROM Development? Does this hurt the chances of CM9 making it to the Rezond (very hard to tell because they have not announced CM9 device support other than the G-Nex)?
2) What is the RIL and why is it important? This seems to be a problem amongst developers.
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The 2 questions you have are very related. What it means, from what I understand, is custom radio developments. Also referring to your first question and your concern, that's what we are waiting on. To not rely on a leak for custom roms and to get an official OTA to base the roms off of, which refers back to your 2nd question if this device can't get s-off capability. We already have a way to flash custom kernels & roms, so at this time, s-off would just add the functionality of creating a custom radio.
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The 2 questions you have are very related. What it means, from what I understand, is custom radio developments. Also referring to your first question and your concern, that's what we are waiting on. To not rely on a leak for custom roms and to get an official OTA to base the roms off of, which refers back to your 2nd question if this device can't get s-off capability. We already have a way to flash custom kernels & roms, so at this time, s-off would just add the functionality of creating a custom radio.
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So what makes custom radios important?
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So what makes custom radios important?
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it's more of nodding radios and not creating them. the only advantage is possibly better signal(depending on location,prl and tower) which leads to better voice quality but since this is high end as it is it might not even make a better difference even with possible data speed increases.
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it's more of nodding radios and not creating them. the only advantage is possibly better signal(depending on location,prl and tower) which leads to better voice quality but since this is high end as it is it might not even make a better difference even with possible data speed increases.
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It sounds to me like an excuse not to develop on this device if this is really something stopping us from a solid AOSP or AOKP build.
I'm really torn. I want a Sense-less ICS ROM, but I really love this phone. I have a week left before I can return it. I suppose worst case I could steal my wife's upgrade in May and give her this phone if we don't see development start picking up.
Unrelated, I'm starting to think this device will never see a solid 5.0 build. CM9 isn't even out of beta and official device support is still showing CM7 devices.
I guess it's a tough decision. At least my wife is willing to take this phone.
The radio isn't the issue. The RIL in android is. I don't know of any android devices that have needed modded radios in order to get AOSP working. There is a working build of MIUI with 4G working... but it seems like the dev wants to get it perfect before he releases it. Once that is done we should be able to get CM9.
But by all means though, if you don't like sense, get a nexus. It is possible nothing will ever be released though so don't hinge your plans on it.
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The radio isn't the issue. The RIL in android is. I don't know of any android devices that have needed modded radios in order to get AOSP working. There is a working build of MIUI with 4G working... but it seems like the dev wants to get it perfect before he releases it. Once that is done we should be able to get CM9.
But by all means though, if you don't like sense, get a nexus. It is possible nothing will ever be released though so don't hinge your plans on it.
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So con247- Do you think there is a chance that an ASOP ril will never be developed?
I guess my question is- how is the rezound>RIL>sense different than rezound>RIL>ASOP? If that makes sense?
It is possible it won't ever happen, but I have 99% faith it will be completed soonish.
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It sounds to me like an excuse not to develop on this device if this is really something stopping us from a solid AOSP or AOKP build.
I'm really torn. I want a Sense-less ICS ROM, but I really love this phone. I have a week left before I can return it. I suppose worst case I could steal my wife's upgrade in May and give her this phone if we don't see development start picking up.
Unrelated, I'm starting to think this device will never see a solid 5.0 build. CM9 isn't even out of beta and official device support is still showing CM7 devices.
I guess it's a tough decision. At least my wife is willing to take this phone.
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Seems like an odd thing to buy a phone on the expectation of AOSP. I'm pretty sure we will see a solid AOSP ROM before long though. Not sure how development is going to pick up much more than it is. We have a ton of great ROMs that these awesome devs have been working on tirelessly since before the unlock was even announced. It's only been four months since the phone came out. The development has been moving at breakneck speed! The lack of flashing unsigned radios has no bearing on ROM developing. Con is dead on. Patience folks.
But after doing some searching here it appears that:
- if the Photon is on 2.3.4 it's usable, rootable, and even possible to unlock the bootloader allowing for most any ROM in the development subforum and even updating/upgrading to the KDDI radio to make GSM usage possible here in the US
- if the Photon is on 2.3.5 it's basically dead in the water and practically no mods at all are possible (I'm saying practically no mods, because some do exist) until hopefully someone discovers a root or unlocking method for the bootloader
For all the Q&A things and FAQs etc, it sure seems pretty logical that somewhere, in big banner font that's bolded and italicized that if you have a 2.3.4 Photon MAKE SURE YOU DON'T TAKE THE OTA UPDATE TO 2.3.5. Wonder why that oh-so-simple yet oh-so-valuable piece of information isn't just slammed in people's faces right from the gitgo.
Am I correct in my appraisal of 2.3.4 vs 2.3.5 'cause it's pretty tough to locate a Photon with 2.3.4 on it anymore, the one I just found on craigslist is cheap ($50 with all the original stuff including box too) but it's 2.3.5. I know that's still a fantastic price for a solid Motorola Photon that works without any known issues (even has an 8GB microSD card in it), and I know that Motorola keeps saying they'll be coming out with an official ICS for the Photon (later this year), but... even for $50 is it worth it to get a Photon if I can't do anything but run it pure stock until... well, a miracle happens?
Any info is appreciated, opinions and suggestions too.
Yeah, that's the short version. You are correct.
I think I'd buy it at $50 regardless. If/when the official ICS shows up you'll be glad you did.
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But after doing some searching here it appears that:
- if the Photon is on 2.3.4 it's usable, rootable, and even possible to unlock the bootloader allowing for most any ROM in the development subforum and even updating/upgrading to the KDDI radio to make GSM usage possible here in the US
- if the Photon is on 2.3.5 it's basically dead in the water and practically no mods at all are possible (I'm saying practically no mods, because some do exist) until hopefully someone discovers a root or unlocking method for the bootloader
For all the Q&A things and FAQs etc, it sure seems pretty logical that somewhere, in big banner font that's bolded and italicized that if you have a 2.3.4 Photon MAKE SURE YOU DON'T TAKE THE OTA UPDATE TO 2.3.5. Wonder why that oh-so-simple yet oh-so-valuable piece of information isn't just slammed in people's faces right from the gitgo.
Am I correct in my appraisal of 2.3.4 vs 2.3.5 'cause it's pretty tough to locate a Photon with 2.3.4 on it anymore, the one I just found on craigslist is cheap ($50 with all the original stuff including box too) but it's 2.3.5. I know that's still a fantastic price for a solid Motorola Photon that works without any known issues (even has an 8GB microSD card in it), and I know that Motorola keeps saying they'll be coming out with an official ICS for the Photon (later this year), but... even for $50 is it worth it to get a Photon if I can't do anything but run it pure stock until... well, a miracle happens?
Any info is appreciated, opinions and suggestions too.
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Hello and welcome. Yessir you are right on most everything. Except consider the fact that you still have the ability to use two great actively updated roms. Technically having a locked bootloader just prevents you from using a custom kernel. You can run any rom you want as long as its compatible with the stock kernel -- that means only blurbased roms. Granted youll be stuck in gingerbread, but Peetrs hybridrom is more or less a complete deblur so its just like running a clean aosp gingerbread rom. So given that, if moto releases official ics im positive someone will deblur that aswell, giving you a generally clean ics. Point is, youre not completely screwed intoanything using stock. But even if you were, stock is actually not bad at all and you can still root and mold it how you like. For 50 bucks? You wont be disappointed. And even if you are, you can get much more than 50 bucks off of it if you throw it on ebay.
Yah, I figured as much. The primary beef for me is it being 2.3.4 and having missed the opportunity to install that KDDI radio - I don't use Sprint so I had serious hope of getting it working with that T-Mobile $30/unlimited data plan (I live in Vegas and T-Mobile now finally covers that band here afaik, could be delayed but I'm pretty sure it's in effect now).
Since that's a non-option now, I'll still consider getting the Photon. I played with one a few weeks ago, was somewhat disappointed in some aspects, that Tegra 2 had so much potential but it's so weak by comparison. Irritates me to no end it lacks proper video decoding support for some of the stuff I use (MX Player can play most anything, but it's forced to use software decoding for some of the files I have because the Tegra 2 just won't do hardware decoding of some h.264 profiles and it really sucks).
But yeah, for $50 I suppose it's not a bad deal overall for a dual core smartphone these days. Would rather have an Atrix 2 like I did a few months ago but, can't find one of those under $150 these days. Doesn't stop me from scanning craigslist almost constantly, however.
Anyone know if we'll be getting a port of WebOS for the Atrix? I just recently saw that the Galaxy Nexus is getting the source code. I figured that probably this would be possible for the Atrix as well. I would love to get a working version of WebOS. After hearing that we won't be getting the ICS update, I have lost all faith in Motorola. Also, the fragmentation issue in Android seems so much larger now that it has finally happened to me. So, in conclusion, if you have any info on a project for porting WebOS or starting the port, let me know. Thanks ahead of time.
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/1910435/
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/1867223/
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/1386372/
Really no need for yet another thread on this.
Why would you want that?
I am just wondering, why would you want webos on your atrix. Try CM7 or MROM.
I would like a port of WebOS because I believe that it could be just a whole new experience. Away from the typical Google Apps Suite and Play store, and into a whole new environment. I've been wanting to try WebOS for a while. I just didn't want to pay for a new phone, especially when I've heard the battery life is terrible. However, if I could run it on my Atrix, it'd be like the best of both worlds (that being hardware AND software).
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This ^^