[Q] No way to root the SII without increasing the flash counter ? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone,
I read a lot of threads but I didn't find any tutorial in here that explains how to root the S2 without increasing the flash counter.. Well I found one but it was concerning the AT&T version. I guess if you can do it on the AT&T version there must be a way to do on the international version but I didn't find anything...
I don't wanna take any risks with the warranty and I heard the usb thingy doesn't work on the latest firmwares.
So is there any way at the moment to root the international S2 without changing the flash counter ?
Thanks a lot !

You can always just downgrade the bootloader and the USB Jig will work.

I updated to the latest fw with new bootloader, i then flashed the old bootloader back onto phone and then reset counter with usb jig. The old bootloader can be found on the site, just can't remember where at the minute
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You could root with zergrush for a basic root. Then if you want custom kernels without starting the counter you could install the first one by using dd to install a zImage that includes CWM. After that only upgrade from CWM and you will never start the counter.

Hey thanks for your replies.
I read so many threads and never heard about zergrush. I think a lot of people just want the easiest way to root their phone without voiding the warranty period. No custom roms, no clockworkmod thingy and so on. I really wonder why complicated methods are sticked when an easy and probably safer one exists. So here is the method :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
I still have a question left, why do we have to install su and busy box ?
Thanks.

Thomas1 said:
Hey thanks for your replies.
I read so many threads and never heard about zergrush. I think a lot of people just want the easiest way to root their phone without voiding the warranty period. No custom roms, no clockworkmod thingy and so on. I really wonder why complicated methods are sticked when an easy and probably safer one exists. So here is the method :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
I still have a question left, why do we have to install su and busy box ?
Thanks.
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You should probably read this: http://www.androidcentral.com/rooting-it-me-some-qa

ctomgee said:
You should probably read this: ]
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Thanks ! I knew what rooting meant but I thought all you needed to do is to be able to change a specific setting in the deep body of android .
I guess busybox is needed for su to work right ?

Thomas1 said:
Thanks ! I knew what rooting meant but I thought all you needed to do is to be able to change a specific setting in the deep body of android .
I guess busybox is needed for su to work right ?
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No, other way around. Busybox will need root. But busybox is VERY useful; if you are a linux user, it provides many higher level linux commands not otherwise available in android.

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UnRoot Samsung Galaxy s2? Can this be done please?

Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
jameslfc5 said:
Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
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Moved to General. Please don't open threads to ask questions in development.
You can unroot. Stock ROMs exist here which can be flashed via ODIN, and which will remove root. If you are on O2 UK branded ROM, it is also available.
To reset the number of "unsigned" ROMs flashed though, you need to use a USB Jig (which is a resistor and a USB plug).
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064894 for re-branding and unrooting an O2 model, and another thread is somewhere for restoring the stock firmware for a non branded one.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522 to reset the counter in download mode.
jameslfc5 said:
Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
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Current problem with rooting is that there is a counter for number of flashed custom kernels inside the phone. When you root, that number goes up. No info yet on how to reset the counter, so it's possible that it could affect your warranty. (Unlikely, but possible) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522 - Kind of difficult though, hopefully an easier way comes along!
Unrooting would be done by flashing back a stock Samsung kernel/rom.
Advantages to rooting are currently:
1) Removing system apps that you can't remove normally.
2) Run certain apps that require root. (Not many of these, really)
3) Modify the framework.apk which let's you do things like skin some of the UI, such as changing battery meters and that.
RyanZA said:
Current problem with rooting is that there is a counter for number of flashed custom kernels inside the phone. When you root, that number goes up. No info yet on how to reset the counter, so it's possible that it could affect your warranty. (Unlikely, but possible)
Unrooting would be done by flashing back a stock Samsung kernel/rom.
Advantages to rooting are currently:
1) Removing system apps that you can't remove normally.
2) Run certain apps that require root. (Not many of these, really)
3) Modify the framework.apk which let's you do things like skin some of the UI, such as changing battery meters and that.
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Eh? You can reset the counter now mate
Shove a USB Jig from an SGS 1 into the USB port and it should reset and remove the yellow warning, even telling you that a custom kernel is an original binary... See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522
Thanks for your replies everyone
What is the best method to use to root, which is the easiest to reverse?
Thank you so much!
jameslfc5 said:
Thanks for your replies everyone
What is the best method to use to root, which is the easiest to reverse?
Thank you so much!
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One method to root. Thread is stuck on development area.
One method to unroot. Thread is in development. You flash stock rom via odin and then reset counter with a jig
pulser_g2 said:
One method to root. Thread is stuck on development area.
One method to unroot. Thread is in development. You flash stock rom via odin and then reset counter with a jig
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Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
jameslfc5 said:
Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
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You can buy a jig online or make one. It's a single resistor and a usb connector. Solder them together correctly and done
Difficulty to someone with the slightest electronics experience is zero. I'm going to pop one together tomorrow and it will likely take about 4 minutes, most of which waiting on soldering equipment to heat up.
jameslfc5 said:
Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
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I can't find the unroot thread?
Also what is the method to stop Samsung from knowing it has been rooted?
Sorry for all the questions, I am coming for an iPhone and a jailbreak and understand all that perfectly fine, just trying to get my head around android
jameslfc5 said:
I can't find the unroot thread?
Also what is the method to stop Samsung from knowing it has been rooted?
Sorry for all the questions, I am coming for an iPhone and a jailbreak and understand all that perfectly fine, just trying to get my head around android
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Unroot - just flash one of the stock ROMs.
Stop samsung knowing of the flash? It's the "reset counter" thread.
Just a Question...
If i just Root the Stock ROM without flashing any other Custom roms as I can live with stock.. will that have any effect on Flash Counters?.. I dont want to void warranty ...So i can flash stock rom again..
If I flash stock roms.. counters will run or will not be effected?
will not be affected.
I have a question,
I rooted my device and now i have to send it in for service.
I have flashed in a stock rom and reseted the counter but when i check my info in settings it says
[email protected]#2
I have tried with super one click but i only get
Getting model...
GT-I9100
OK 0,03s
Getting version...
XWKF3
OK 0,02s
Not supported!
FAILED
Any ideas how to get rid of the [email protected] in the end of the info?
ringe123 said:
I have a question,
I rooted my device and now i have to send it in for service.
I have flashed in a stock rom and reseted the counter but when i check my info in settings it says
[email protected]#2
I have tried with super one click but i only get
Getting model...
GT-I9100
OK 0,03s
Getting version...
XWKF3
OK 0,02s
Not supported!
FAILED
Any ideas how to get rid of the [email protected] in the end of the info?
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That has nothing to do with root on your phone
I'm not sure but I think it is related to the build machine used to build the kernel.
You unroot by downloading the latest official firmware for you region/carrier. If that is done then you're fine.
Ok, since i downloaded the KF3 rom from this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 thread it should be fine to turn the phone in for service, without they come back to me and say my root ruined my menubutton which have stopped working
ringe123 said:
Ok, since i downloaded the KF3 rom from this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 thread it should be fine to turn the phone in for service, without they come back to me and say my root ruined my menubutton which have stopped working
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well, there is a counter counting how many insecure kernels have been downloaded, you need the USB-jig to reset that, but in many cases the service centers doesn't check this at service.
I have already reseted the counter with a usb-jig and i have no yellow triangle or anything like that so it looks like everything is stock exept the kernel version.
hopefully they won´t even check it and repair it under warranty.
Sorry to bump thread. I flashed to stock firmware with odin3 but I think it is still rooted because the unlock tool, which requires phone to be rooted, still works. How do I unroot?
Flash full stock firmware = unroot if used the Chainfire CWM and Root method .
jje
What is "flash one of the stock roms"?
I already rooted my Galaxy S2 now I would like to unroot it (I add certain programs for superuser, so that I would be able to run them as root while unrooted).
What rom should I get? Considering my kernel is XWKDD-CL16 ...

Is this right?

Hi, I got my galaxy s2 in the post a week ago, but it was second hand, apparently unwanted upgrade. Anyway, is this an official kernal please, as I haven't seen it on any other device on YouTube when watching a meriad of reviews. So I have attached a screen shot of the kernal version. By the way this should be a sim free UK modal. I know this is random, but I have stupidly got my self a bit worried, could someone help me please? Thanks very much
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Here is the photo
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It looks like they've possibly upped the kernel, but definitely rooted it. I very seriously doubt there's anything to worry about though. Looks like someone did the work for you
Nothing wrong there, you're rooted. If you're worried you could flash a different kernel! Easy as pie if you follow the threads available
Hi, but root checker says that I don't have root same with set cpu. Also, can i update it ota, to the new 2.3.4 when it comes out officially please? Also, I rooted my old htc desire, and then I wanted to root my galaxy s2 when ever here was a stableish nightly for ice cream sandwich, but will the fact it hasn't got an official kernel obscure me from flashing using odin to flash roms, other kenels and installing custom recovery, or because it says it isn't rooted, will it obscure be from rooting. Also are there any risks please? I am new to galaxy s2, I am used to the simplify of rooting the desire. thanks, also how do you know it's rooted?
Thanks very much for your help
johncmolyneux said:
It looks like they've possibly upped the kernel, but definitely rooted it. I very seriously doubt there's anything to worry about though. Looks like someone did the work for you
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Also, could you please be able to tell be, where in the procedure of rooting is my phone to be able to root, flash if someone has started the work for me please? I am just scared that if I start to mess around with trying to root it, and if someone has started the rooting the process, I might brick it. I don't know if I have explained this very well.
I should have done this before, but when it is so long I didn't think it would work, but I typed in the kernel in the search box and it came up with this, I think it may be stock and completely normal after all: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14593753
I got mine from Orange and the kernel was KE2. I think that KE7 is an official firmware, but the "root" in the name suggests it's already been rooted. Have a look in your apps for CWM or Superuser. If they're there then it's probably Chainfire's root that has been applied. If not then maybe they just flashed a stock kernel before sending it to you.
Either way, following the instructions in Chainfire's root thread will not brick your device (as long as you do follow the instructions )
It's actually quite hard to brick it. You really need to start pulling cables or stopping odin when you're flashing to do that.
johncmolyneux said:
I got mine from Orange and the kernel was KE2. I think that KE7 is an official firmware, but the "root" in the name suggests it's already been rooted. Have a look in your apps for CWM or Superuser. If they're there then it's probably Chainfire's root that has been applied. If not then maybe they just flashed a stock kernel before sending it to you.
Either way, following the instructions in Chainfire's root thread will not brick your device (as long as you do follow the instructions )
It's actually quite hard to brick it. You really need to start pulling cables or stopping odin when you're flashing to do that.
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Or if you start flashing Samsung Galaxy S 1 files onto your Samsung Galaxy S 2 like some people...
my brand new phone from vodafone australia was kernel dukf4 with [email protected] in the title, but it was most certainly not a rooted device.
I am now on ke7, rooted, no dramas. dont have cwm or rom, phone does not seem to need it for my lifestyle.

Easier Root with no flash

Not sure if everyone has seen this but it appears there is a new method to root our devices without requiring us to flash. New exploit has already been incorporated into SuperOneClick. I haven't tried yet but will be soon. Anyone else see / use this and can verify?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I haven't used the SuperOneClick method, but I used this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
which seems to be based off the same ZergRush method & it worked perfectly.
Vpr2006 said:
I haven't used the SuperOneClick method, but I used this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
which seems to be based off the same ZergRush method & it worked perfectly.
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Correct. The developer of SuperOneClick simply incorporated the ZergRush method.
I just bit the bullet and successfully rooted by SG2 this morning with SuperOneClick. Thus this is a quick and easy method to root instead of flashing. No knock against any of the developers here as they all should be commended for identifying how to root our SG2s months ago. For me I am not ready to flash my SG2 as I just got it and really want to play with it a while stock to learn the ins and outs and then identify the best rom that I think has the features that I feel are lacking.
However again, this is now a quick and easy method for all with just one button click to gain root.
Rooting
cbb77 said:
Correct. The developer of SuperOneClick simply incorporated the ZergRush method.
I just bit the bullet and successfully rooted by SG2 this morning with SuperOneClick. Thus this is a quick and easy method to root instead of flashing. No knock against any of the developers here as they all should be commended for identifying how to root our SG2s months ago. For me I am not ready to flash my SG2 as I just got it and really want to play with it a while stock to learn the ins and outs and then identify the best rom that I think has the features that I feel are lacking.
However again, this is now a quick and easy method for all with just one button click to gain root.
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I really see no point in rooting at all unless you want to use stock firmware.
All custom roms are pre-rooted so if you are going to flash a custom
rom there really is no need to root the phone in the first place.
Once you have the CWM Recovery Kernel flashed, simply flash the
custom rom of your choice (zipfile) and you will have instant root.
Misterjunky said:
I really see no point in rooting at all unless you want to use stock firmware.
All custom roms are pre-rooted so if you are going to flash a custom
rom there really is no need to root the phone in the first place.
Once you have the CWM Recovery Kernel flashed, simply flash the
custom rom of your choice (zipfile) and you will have instant root.
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Root enables many Root apps such as TiBu and allows making system changes. Not everyone want a custom rom.

[Q] Amaze 4g ICS Rooting?

Hi there,
I have yet to find a specific answer searching other threads, so I am posting here...
Is there a way to Root the updated Tmobile ICS update?
I thought about flashing another ROM like Cyano9, etc. but mostly I want to remove the crappy bloatware that is on the ICS update.
Obviouslly, I don't want to brick my device, but all I've seen on the forums are the Gingerbread versions of the root process...I've heard it won't cooperate with the same methods using it for ICS.
Thanks...
Same method to root for GB will work on ICS nothings changed.
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It's Better To Fail At Originality
Than To Succeed In Imitation.
-Mighty Healthy
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Ideas?
Hi there,
Thanks for the help...I suspected as much, but I needed to check from those who tried and succeeded. I was looking at the site theunlockr.com for a one step root. Is this for real?
One more question - I've rooted my old phones before, but I always new where to get the original Tmobile file in case I wanted to revert back to the original ROM...does anyone know where I can find the ICS Tmobile ROM just in case I root and either it doesn't work or I decide to return to bloatware-central?
For some reason, I am more nervous to root this phone than my older ones...I'm afraid of a brick...
Thanks again!:good:
jazzersaxman said:
Hi there,
Thanks for the help...I suspected as much, but I needed to check from those who tried and succeeded. I was looking at the site theunlockr.com for a one step root. Is this for real?
One more question - I've rooted my old phones before, but I always new where to get the original Tmobile file in case I wanted to revert back to the original ROM...does anyone know where I can find the ICS Tmobile ROM just in case I root and either it doesn't work or I decide to return to bloatware-central?
For some reason, I am more nervous to root this phone than my older ones...I'm afraid of a brick...
Thanks again!:good:
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The only rooting method that's gonna work is the version via hasoons tool.
1. Unlock your bootloader
2. flash a custom recovery
3. Install SuperSu.zip
Once you're s-on, which you are, you're safe from bricks, since you can't change the files that would cause a brick.
The stock tmobile ruu is available in the dev section in the stock ruu/ota thread.
Dark Nightmare said:
The only rooting method that's gonna work is the version via hasoons tool.
1. Unlock your bootloader
2. flash a custom recovery
3. Install SuperSu.zip
Once you're s-on, which you are, you're safe from bricks, since you can't change the files that would cause a brick.
The stock tmobile ruu is available in the dev section in the stock ruu/ota thread.
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just done this myself
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phone settings
Thanks again for the advice...seems simple enough...I was working with the toolkit, ad when trying to get the token ID the script says it can detect my device.
I have it plugged in using disk drive mode...is that correct?
jazzersaxman said:
Thanks again for the advice...seems simple enough...I was working with the toolkit, ad when trying to get the token ID the script says it can detect my device.
I have it plugged in using disk drive mode...is that correct?
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Did you turn usb debugging on? You can find this in settings>develop options.
oops
Dark Nightmare said:
Did you turn usb debugging on? You can find this in settings>develop options.
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No...that's what I realized I forgot...
jazzersaxman said:
No...that's what I realized I forgot...
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Everybody's happy now.:good:

[Q] Before Rooting question.

Ok, well i am relevantly new to this rooting method for the android devices; so after reading through threads on rooting i have read sections on unlocking bootloader, roms, kernels and stuff and my question is. Will i be able to root my phone without unlocking it just so i can access applications that need root to run? i have no plans in adding or using custom roms on my phone and was wondering will i still be able to update my phone though the official updates? cause i have read from some threads and posts that you will not be able to update it and was wondering is it mandatory for me to unlock the bootloader while rooting....... thanks in advance for the answer and help
No. Root can be obtained only after unlockong.
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hmm ok so i will need to bootload before rooting ha..... fine so how do i do the updates through roms.... if so where can i find them and are there any threads that shows how to use them.
I would recommend you not worry about how to flash ROMs quite yet. Once you obtain root, which isn't really hard, flashing ROMs will seem easy as pie. And to flash ROMs you need to flash a kernel, which is easily done with the rooting tool posted in the development section. Good luck.
dude could you tell like tell me how to root this device, cause i have been trying to root it for a while now and cant seem to do it..... i am following this thread to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39744013#post39744013....... and i cant pass through the "adb device" section as my device is not being detected and yes all my drives are upto date... so would be greatly appreciated if i could get some help.
decoy4444 said:
dude could you tell like tell me how to root this device, cause i have been trying to root it for a while now and cant seem to do it..... i am following this thread to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39744013#post39744013....... and i cant pass through the "adb device" section as my device is not being detected and yes all my drives are upto date... so would be greatly appreciated if i could get some help.
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At which step are you stuck? I will be glad to help you, you should have posted right in the thread.
I haven't gone through the mentioned guide above, and it might be all good, but I've followed this one instead when I first got my HOX+ (now I can do it blindfolded) and it was easy to follow and worked like a charm. Give it a shot.
Just an FYI (so you don't call us liars in the future when you switch devices), but not all root hacks require the bootloader to be unlocked, it depends on the device.

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