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im having a dilemma on what really should i get.. i've always wanted the mini pro because of its physical keyboard and it works best for me because i use sms most of the time, but the problem is the noise problem and the cases of unresponsive screen and capacitive buttons which SE has not resolved or did have a response yet. On the other hand after checking the ray forums, it seems that the ray among all the 2011 phones of SE has the least defect or almost perfect due to very few problems encountered..
please help me.. which i should i go for?
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brapicoco said:
im having a dilemma on what really should i get.. i've always wanted the mini pro because of its physical keyboard and it works best for me because i use sms most of the time, but the problem is the noise problem and the cases of unresponsive screen and capacitive buttons which SE has not resolved or did have a response yet. On the other hand after checking the ray forums, it seems that the ray among all the 2011 phones of SE has the least defect or almost perfect due to very few problems encountered..
please help me.. which i should i go for?
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Go for xperia mini pro. There is only noise problem. The capacitive buttons have no problem and the screen is super responsive. It'll play and win games even before you touch it.
Titan Nettix said:
Go for xperia mini pro. There is only noise problem. The capacitive buttons have no problem and the screen is super responsive. It'll play and win games even before you touch it.
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Mini nonpro
I was in your same situation, and I just bought the Ray... it's damnly sexy XD and the screen is fantastic. I had an x10 mini pro, the lack of the physical keyboard isn't that big problem, I suggest you to buy the Ray, I can't stop watching it, wiht the screen off is a cool item to see on your board, thin, fast, and cool ^^
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Xperia Ray. Had it for 2 weeks. Haven't had any problems with it.
The screen is also super responsive, contrary to what some have been saying.
wwwong said:
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Xperia Ray. Had it for 2 weeks. Haven't had any problems with it.
The screen is also super responsive, contrary to what some have been saying.
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The lack of the screen responsiveness (for someone) is caused by the damnly strong screen protector (and almost invisible) already sticked on the screen, if u remove it it becomes really responsive, but it's wery well applied, so isn't that bad. Every protector I sticked myself on my phones wasn't the best to look (and in less than a week I had to remove it cause the angles didn't stay down )
sry 4 my bad english XD
@Ray users
How is Ray's battery life?? Is it 1200mAh like the mini/mini pro or more??
Because I think that battery life is really important.
I believe that the only disadvantage of the mini/mini pro is the battery life. :/
lately i've been considering the ray but still my heart says go for the mini pro, but will SE fix the noise problem? how about the battery life? which has the greater one? because my x8's battery life really sucks and there are reported issues of the mini pro having a poor battery life. Battery life is very important to me
the battery of the ray is 1500mAh, and its life is really good, not epic but still better than the most of android devices, it's a huge battery for a so thin device, so, it gets my approvation ^^ (the galaxyS2 has got a 1600mAh battery...)
First i got the Mini Pro because i thought writing with the hardware keyboard would be easier. To be honest, at least for me, that wasn't the case. It's 1/3 heavier than the Ray and the shape gives my fingers pain while holding it in portrait mode. As noted, the battery life is also shorter.
I ended up buying the Ray and ever since i didn't even look at the Mini until i found a use for it again; testing the unlock bootloader option (using test point method) which leaves DRM intact. Now the Mini lays in some corner again until SE brings the 2.3.4 update to germany.
Hope that helped.
Ray, its got high res display thinner bigger screen and better camera
Sent from my ST15i using XDA App
The Ray is WAY better phone than the mini
My only concern is the lack of auto-flash (light on or oight off only) but I guess the Arc's camera software could be transplanted to the Ray (crosses fingers)
guy i have the same problem. i cant decide wether to buy the xperia ray or the xperia mini(not pro). yet i own a k750i which has a perfect size for me. i dont know wether the mini is too small or the ray is too big. and the ray is very small. does it have a good handling? is the batterylife of the ray better than that of the mini? and will it give an update for the ray so that it has a flashlight for the camera? which phone woul you prefer.
thx for ur advices.
Ray = Better phone
Mini Pro = Small & Keyboard
Depends what you need. I hate bigass phones so Mini Pro is my choice
xperia mini pro
As my tagline,,, + for xperia mini pro - for xperia ray,,, i choose the xperia mini pro just because the fitur on it's phone is same as ray,,, it has 1ghz processor,,, bravia engine,,, 5 mp camera,,, it has secondary too hey it's cool man,,, different is the display,,, xperia mini pro only has 3" display but the phone has qwerty keyboard,,, so not too big problem i think,,,
sorry for my bad english
empilempul said:
As my tagline,,, + for xperia mini pro - for xperia ray,,, i choose the xperia mini pro just because the fitur on it's phone is same as ray,,, it has 1ghz processor,,, bravia engine,,, 5 mp camera,,, it has secondary too hey it's cool man,,, different is the display,,, xperia mini pro only has 3" display but the phone has qwerty keyboard,,, so not too big problem i think,,,
sorry for my bad english
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The Xperia Rays camera is 8MP, not 5 and the exmor sensor takes amazing videos at night even in VGA mode!!!
I got the Xperia Ray on the firt release date, and I throughly love this phone.
Wish there were custom ROMS for it out here though, would love to see what the devs can do with this little BEAST.
Only regret I have is that I should have chosen White rather than Pink.... I thought it looked more red at the time lol. Love the Phone non-the-less!!!
I had an X10 mini pro before the Ray, the thinness and the lightness of the ray makes it really confortable, where the mini pro wasn't much cause of its soap-size and weight
LordSnow said:
I had an X10 mini pro before the Ray, the thinness and the lightness of the ray makes it really confortable, where the mini pro wasn't much cause of its soap-size and weight
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Lordsnow have you tested vignette or any third-party app to enable auto-flash ??
gtrab said:
Lordsnow have you tested vignette or any third-party app to enable auto-flash ??
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yup, but still isn't a real flash, the light is low. I'm looking 4 an apk with "superbrightness" or something similar^^ just to see if our led can do more light
LordSnow said:
yup, but still isn't a real flash, the light is low. I'm looking 4 an apk with "superbrightness" or something similar^^ just to see if our led can do more light
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Thanks for your reply, please keep me posted !!
I have a crush on this phone, even w/o a keyboard I find it sleek and head-turner
A chick magnet
I have the x10 and a desire z, I ended carrying the D Z only due to the autoflash and QWERTY, but this Ray looks sleek
Hello all! I am really wondering about the camera quality of the new Neo V comparing to the normal Neo. As far as I understood, the Neo V has 5 MP while the Neo has 8 MP. Well 5 or 8 I don't care or contrary if the qaulity of the 5 MP is very good, no need for 8 MP.
Unfortunately it seams that nobody thinks it is necessary to make a test. Often in the specs, which are obviously copied from the Neo, they are mentioning wrongly 8 MP.
If somebody could tell me his experience or drive me to a review It would be highly appreciated!
I would buy the normal Neo but it is for my girlfriend and she insist on a white phone. The Neo in white would be perfect but I guess this does not exist?!
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Hello all! I am really wondering about the camera quality of the new Neo V comparing to the normal Neo. As far as I understood, the Neo V has 5 MP while the Neo has 8 MP. Well 5 or 8 I don't care or contrary if the qaulity of the 5 MP is very good, no need for 8 MP.
Unfortunately it seams that nobody thinks it is necessary to make a test. Often in the specs, which are obviously copied from the Neo, they are mentioning wrongly 8 MP.
If somebody could tell me his experience or drive me to a review It would be highly appreciated!
I would buy the normal Neo but it is for my girlfriend and she insist on a white phone. The Neo in white would be perfect but I guess this does not exist?!
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I think it has the same 5mp sensor as the Xperia Mini (pro), so I maybe you should search for reviews of those phones.
But the quality of xperia mini pro is very poor xD
Cam pix quality is not good here...lots of noise in pix
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neo v(5mp) camera cannot be compared to NEO(8mp) but i am pretty sure that it is better than MINI PRO
Xperia Neo camera is very good. The picture quality is very nice. About the sensor of the camera, it could be better of course.
Anyway, the problem of most cameras even the 2-3-5 Mpix ones is the compression of the saved picture. The Xperia Neo compression of *.jpeg is quite high, the pictures are less than 1MB in 8Mpix mode. If you use a better app for the camera (like 360camera) you will see the real quality of the camera, never mind the 8Mpix.
Thanks for the feed back. So I guess the photo quality is not really amazing.
Is there any chance to get the normal Neo in white??
hapid said:
Thanks for the feed back. So I guess the photo quality is not really amazing.
Is there any chance to get the normal Neo in white??
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buy a Neo and then buy a white housing like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Ho...15i-Xperia-Neo-L-/310322539361#ht_1061wt_1037
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buy a Neo and then buy a white housing
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I head this idea as well, you think that that the housing is compatible? Can somebody confirm this? Thank you!
Why not just get a Silver Neo? Close enough to white and imho the best look for the Neo.
With the normal neo, you only can zoom in with 6mp, so it it isn't that big of a difference
silver color is the best for neo & neo v , it looks highlighted around the dark black screen
Based on the mode you select the configuration of the pixel is decided on neo , it is changed to 5mp for some of the modes
Hi,
I am coming from Xperia X10i, and I am planning to buy neo v, just want to know how is it "in call volume" quality, I know its specs are same are Neo and Arc except Camera and Screen, beside that, how is it in general use comparing it with X10i.
Thank you
Xahid
Finally I bought Neo V, and I really like it, the build quality is great, sound is really impressive as compared to X10i, time to play
Thanks everyone who reply
One more member in your Neo V community
If you get money at your disposal then buy the Arc or Arc S
~Amazing Phones
Or else buy the Neo as it has a 8Mp camera and a sensor that the Neo V lacks
Thanks for the reply, but doesn't help !
The in call volume is pretty decent on my Neo V
On comparing the Neo V to X10
The Neo V is a win win
512Mb ram as to 320Mb of X10
HD video recording
Although the screen size of X10 is larger
Now, Thanks for the Answer.
Cheers
I don't have anything to really compare it too since it's my first smartphone (by the new definition of smartphone) but the Neo's reception and call clarity are great.
I'd get an original Arc, it's only €50 more expensive than the Neo, and it's thinner and it has a bigger screen. Or wait till January, maybe they will present a successor,
I only had the X10i for a few weeks before it bricked, but IMO the only downside of the neo is that it has a smaller screen. However, it is much easier to grip than the X10i even with a large hand.
The Arc/Arc S is thinner, but you lose the front camera and the face has a tendency to develop cracks. Of course, the neo V has a smaller camera, but it shouldn't be too bad at taking pictures.
hello! my friend bought xperia arc yesterday and i just updated it now to the latest firmware (2.3.4) and yes it does have sweep panorama function now.
I'm not really impressed with the form of the xperia arc, yes it has a big screen, but i'm having trouble holding the phone it's too big for me and it's not the type of phone that you can comfortably put inside your pocket.
I am also planning to buy xperia neo but with neo v around, it is so confusing.
One thing is for sure neo v is cheaper. But i like the red color of neo! SDCard is not an issue to me.
My only question is:
Does 3 mega pixels really make a difference?
.... sorry to hi-jack the thread! peace!
twistergear said:
hello! my friend bought xperia arc yesterday and i just updated it now to the latest firmware (2.3.4) and yes it does have sweep panorama function now.
I'm not really impressed with the form of the xperia arc, yes it has a big screen, but i'm having trouble holding the phone it's too big for me and it's not the type of phone that you can comfortably put inside your pocket.
I am also planning to buy xperia neo but with neo v around, it is so confusing.
One thing is for sure neo v is cheaper. But i like the red color of neo! SDCard is not an issue to me.
My only question is:
Does 3 mega pixels really make a difference?
.... sorry to hi-jack the thread! peace!
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Try and make a photo with tour friends phone, and look for someone with a 5MP camera phone and see for yourself.
SGS (5MP) vs. SGSII (8MP)
here they compare the Arc's (similar) camera to the HTC Desire Z
It's not just the MP difference. The neo has a Exmor R sensor, which allows for better low-light shots.
The Neo V is just Sony's way of making more people buy their flag ship model (The Arc/S) they screwed up when they released the Neo because it was soooo close to the Arc in Specs with the advantage of the front camera many people decided to buy the cheaper Neo instead for that extra feature alone.. the quick fix was to release a new Arc (the S with a slightly more powerful processor) and the Neo V with a 5MP non exmor-R sensor.. SE is trying to phaze out the Neo and pretend it never existed.. in a lot of countries only the Neo V is available now.
I bought the Neo because of the size, the 8mp Exmor-R Sensor, the front camera (for skype video calling) USB OTG (Thumb drives and usb keyboards etc) and HDMI (for playing angry birds on a 42" screen with a mouse!) I wouldn't buy a Neo V (Crap camera) and I wouldn't buy an Arc or Arc S (no front camera) even the new Ray is missing HDMI.. i don't know what sony is thinking.. but the Neo was the only phone they make with everything you could need... and now it is pretty much gone, glad I got mine when I did... just hope they continue to support it
Kiwi
There's still the Pro as well.
SCHUMI_4EVER said:
There's still the Pro as well.
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But that's at least €50 more expensive, and thicker and heavier.
But it has everything you could want aside from dual core processing power. HDMI, check, 8MP Exmor R sensor, check, hardware shutter, check, hardware qwerty, check, front cam, check. It's as close as a phone currently comes to being the best of all worlds. Not having to compromise is worth the premium and slightly increased size and weight in my book.
GSMArena tested the Neo V, also it's camera.
And the Neo too. You could compare them there.
About to buy one of these 2 similarly named phones and was wondering which is better. I'm not talking about specs as the non-X10 wins there, but actual day to day usage.
Any input greatly appreciated.
I have x10 mini pro, and my sister has mini pro.
From the two I would suggest the later.
My sister's mini pro battery lasts longer.
It has a bigger screen without the phone itself being bigger (at least not noticeably bigger).
The keyboard keys are softer to type (I find x10 mini pro's keys a little too hard).
More apps in the market for the mini pro (due to greater resolution and ics).
And it takes better photos (that, or I'm not as good in taking photos).
x10 mini pro is cheaper.
My sister's keyboard keys have been worn out more than mine (I think that they were matte, now they are not)
In general I'm jealous of my sister's mini pro, if that helps.
Haha yep jealousy is a giveaway! I appreciate your input..
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Hi,
Both Xperia Neo(MT15) And Xperia Arc S (LT18) has the 8MP Exmor r Sensor.
I have tested the both cams, But Arc S Picture quality is Better. Im Not sure why is that. Neo @ICS 4.0.4 , Arc S @GB
Neo Pictures are bit misty looking. Arc S pics are very sharp.
Can anyone give there opinion on this.
Thank you.
Maybe the settings are different.
I'm pretty satisfied with the picture quality.
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