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http://news.yahoo.com/smartphone-spying-204933867.html
This sucks but it does not suprise me. Should be a law suit.
Hopefully this will be deemed illegal. I've not looked at Motorola's and Google's user agreements closely but if it isn't in there I sure as hell didn't agree to this.
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Verizon and Rogers don’t use Carrier IQ, Vodafone and O2 “don’t collect info”
"and they’re now joined by iPhone users who discovered pieces of Carrier IQ code in all current models."
I've read that installing a custom ROM would get rid of this (if it had it at all). I installed the app that checks to see if it's installed on your phone and it wasn't on mine. Not that I don't trust Verizon (but I don't trust Verizon). I can't post links yet, but google Carrier IQ and look for "Carrier IQ: How To Find It..." article at techcrunch.com. That has the link to the app that will check your phone to see if you have. But like Alan Wolfe posted, Verizon "says" they don't install it, but still handy to check friend's phones.
Yea Vz did say there not using Carrier IQ, I don't trust them either.
I would not put it past them to use some other way to spy on it's user's.
The app is right here on XDA and Developer is one of are own.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/carrier-iq-sues-treve/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559&postcount=110
ImgBurn said:
Yea Vz did say there not using Carrier IQ, I don't trust them either.
I would not put it past them to use some other way to spy on it's user's.
The app is right here on XDA and Developer is one of are own.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/carrier-iq-sues-treve/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559&postcount=110
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Thanks for posting those links....I would've if I could've
Supercurio posted a CARRIER IQ detection app in the market. Seems like verizon has not been lying to us.
I would longer to think that verizon its watching us some other way though. Maybe they have their own proprietary way of doing so?
I wouldn't doubt VZW has stuff on our phones or are trying to get stuff on our phones. Who knows, maybe moto is in on it too. Its a game between users and carriers, going back and forth, they make it, we root it, they patch the root, we find another way and get bl unlocked, they patch both, we start again. In my mind its almost fun haha
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IDMA.DROID.X2
I agree with the fun factor. But for me the
fun end's when they start spying and stealing
my personal information. What's the point of
having password's, firewall's , anti-virus etc.
When they (meaning Moto,Google,Verizon,
Comcast, Micro$oft,AOL,Apple and on & on)
have full access to everything on your phone,
PC.
And it's bad enough they have access to all
this but to store and build data base's that they
sell or get compromised is totally unacceptable.
But that's just My opinion I could be wrong
Probably why our bootloaders are locked. Something in the kernel? </tinfoilhat>
Yeah, its a little far over the line, but the rooting and bootloaders is kinda fun. But VZW doesn't use caller IQ or what ever it is. So until we find out for sure VZW/moto is or isn't spying on us, I don't really care. I'm not mad about the latest spying thing because it doesn't effect me. I still wouldnt put it past them though.
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The harassing of TrevE by CIQ is every bit as disgusting as their product deployment.
Not on me, Verizon doesnt have carrier IQ
Good day!
Situation: have a broken (beyond repair) droid 2 global that was unlocked with a code and a new droid 2 global, that has been lying in my wardrobe for already 1 year because I am outside US and do not have Verizon contract to give them a call for the code.
Tried purchasing codes (don't work), tried looking up friends on the web with Verizon account (nobody agrees to help, which is actually stupid as I will never come to US to make some fraud against helper..) - not luck..
And recently came up with a interesting idea - what if I take out the gsm-module from a broken droid and put it into the locked one?.. Anybody has knowledge where Motorola imprints the IMEI - to the module or to the mainboard?..
Could be an option to swap imei's in the module but assume Motorola's are not as easy as HTC's to crack..
Please don't tell me about some legal consequences, I am not in US to be afraid of some big brother following me. I need to know an answer if it is technically possible.
Thanks in advance for ideas and help!
Michael
Changing the IMEI is illegal in most countries, you know? (in any circumstance)
RoberGalarga said:
Changing the IMEI is illegal in most countries, you know? (in any circumstance)
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I know that you most likely read about it on the web.. I am not discussing that, I prefer to have my judgement based on reality.
Could you comment on the point raised in the question? If not - thanks for letting me know and stopping by
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I know that you most likely read about it on the web.. I am not discussing that, I prefer to have my judgement based on reality.
Could you comment on the point raised in the question? If not - thanks for letting me know and stopping by
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Did you succeed to change the IMEI? I have a similar situation too.
Thanks!
I've got an LG Optimus T (T-Mobile Optimus One) that's fully bricked and I can't find anyone in the area to assist saving this device. I contacted several of the cell phone ripoff shops here in town and they all say they "know a guy that can do it but doesn't work for us" but they won't put me in direct contact with this so-called genius and I'm stuck for a solution.
Also... I was kinda hoping someone might be able to help for no charge - I honestly don't have the cash to save this phone but I can't afford another one either. If I had the cash I'd just get another phone, duh, but I'm between a rock and a hard place so, figured I'd ask and see what happens. I know people expect hard cash for most everything these days, but I could use a break and it'll be good Karma back on you if you can help.
It's the only Android phone I have and I'd love to get it functional once more.
Mods: I couldn't think of any other place to ask the question so, if this is off-limits or going against any rules (that I'm not presently aware of) feel free to delete it outright instead of just locking it.
Contact me by PM if you're able to help, and my Wife and I appreciate any assistance possible.
Hello guys,
Thanks to our devs, the device didn't die on android development-wise but it's starting to show its age with new software releases. I always wanted to have an unlocked bootloader solution for xt910 and xt912 but there have never been one. I waited for an official solution from motorola but they never cared. If we start a bounty for xt910 bootloader unlock, we might have a small chance to unlock it. I will happily donate 50$ for this cause. If we can collect some $$$$, some crackers on the good side might be interested with this.
XT910 & XT912 BOOTLOADER UNLOCK BOUNTY FROM the DEVICE COMMUNITY !
BOUNTY GOAL : 1000 USD ! Collected amount 270 USD, Remaining amount. 730 USD.
DONORS LIST
The one who unlocks the bootloader of retail droid razr and razr omap4 devices and offers a solution for the users will claim his bounty money from the donors immediately. If the donors don't die before they see that the bootloader could be unlocked with their devices, donors and users will pay for development efforts instantly.
Semseddin 50 usd
Crumplet 40 usd
nandeh 25 usd
tydiamond 15usd
pepcisko 50 usd
Firex2 40 usd
neo.amk 50 usd
Ok let's try this again...
Please keep things on topic here and resist the urge to share opinions that are not on-topic with the OP
Semseddin said:
Hello guys,
Thanks to our devs, the device didn't die on android development-wise but it's starting to show its age with new software releases. I always wanted to have an unlocked bootloader solution for xt910 and xt912 but there have never been one. I waited for an official solution from motorola but they never cared. If we start a bounty for xt910 bootloader unlock, we might have a small chance to unlock it. I will happily donate 50$ for this cause. If we can collect some $$$$, some crackers on the good side might be interested with this.
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Well, new start with a better post no anger anymore.
I would suggest that we first do some research about the possibilities before starting a bounty. Another question might be if money is really needed to do this - just want to say that there might be a way without paying money - and if there is success many people will be lucky to throw some $$$$.
As a first step I will invite Ravi into this discussion who found a possible way to perform an unlock. It's still very hard for sure and we will need some really skilled people like Hash code to throw in their mind , but maybe it's worth a try.
And Semseddin, never mind, let's just forget that last conversation
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Ok dtrail1, lets forget about last conversation and be in peace.
I thought bounty money could be interesting for some people to take the job seriously and work on to deliver a bootloader unlock solution. However i would appriciate a free solution as well, i would still donate to that hero
Semseddin said:
Ok dtrail1, lets forget about last conversation and be in peace.
I thought bounty money could be interesting for some people to take the job seriously and work on to deliver a bootloader unlock solution. However i would appriciate a free solution as well, i would still donate to that hero
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Have you called VZW/moto in reference to this topic? I am positive you will get a legit response... You will know if such is possible as well as any concerns involving said "efuse" May or may not be a possibility on certain xt912/10. Although lately seems the impossible has became possible...
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1droidmod said:
Have you called VZW/moto in reference to this topic? I am positive you will get a legit response... You will know if such is possible as well as any concerns involving said "efuse" May or may not be a possibility on certain xt912/10. Although lately seems the impossible has became possible...
XT912 RaZR SpYdEr CDMA
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Well, there is still that efuse problem. But Motorola might be able to unlock it by RSA keys. But I don't believe in them...
I was taking to some others, and the most related solution could be a custom bootloader being loaded from sdcard. But therefor we need a way to bypass the signature check - as I know. But this is also the point where my knowledge stops and people like Hashcode (he told us privately) didn't have a further look at this. They spent about two years (and they are still spending time) for kexec. Maybe because they don't see another solution. But I don't know it exactly, That's why I invited him into this conversion, hope he will join soon (will ask him in hangout when he's online).
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@dtrail1- Lol, Verizion claims to have ZERO knowledge of subject and MOTO says to call your Carrier for unlock options!! Seems to me one or both are not being honest.. As VZW claims to not encourage this type of thing, he said best bet is to do web search.. And we know how that goes.. I am happy with safestrap and I know others are with bmm. I feel I have no need for this but... This is one of those things that is starting to bug me.. Only reason why I am even involved.. By the way, 4.3 Kernel kikn azzz.. Thanks again.
XT912 RaZR SpYdEr CDMA
I know you all will notice i don't post much if at all so my reliability on the matter will be in question but I just got done chatting with maureen from motorola and asked some questions about the future of the xt912. I asked whether we will see another upgrade (4.2 most likely but I asked about 4.3) and she said they are planning on upgrading the os for the razr but they are still on-going. I also mentioned the previous motorola stance on unlocked bootloaders on older phones and asked if they would be releasing info on that for the razr as well and she said it's also in the plans as well. I printed the chat but am having a hard time scanning as I'm at work. i will try to attach it as soon as possible but this info came straight from moto live assistance. the only other problem would be a timetable on this stuff.
@rhouse 1983 Cool, thanks... You got more out of them than I did.. :thumbup:
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rhouse1983 said:
I know you all will notice i don't post much if at all so my reliability on the matter will be in question but I just got done chatting with maureen from motorola and asked some questions about the future of the xt912. I asked whether we will see another upgrade (4.2 most likely but I asked about 4.3) and she said they are planning on upgrading the os for the razr but they are still on-going. I also mentioned the previous motorola stance on unlocked bootloaders on older phones and asked if they would be releasing info on that for the razr as well and she said it's also in the plans as well. I printed the chat but am having a hard time scanning as I'm at work. i will try to attach it as soon as possible but this info came straight from moto live assistance. the only other problem would be a timetable on this stuff.
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Are you sure they weren't talking about the HD versions? I have talked to them before and they weren't very straight forward I hope it truly is the xt912!! Please post the chat as soon as you can
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Big_Red77 said:
Are you sure they weren't talking about the HD versions? I have talked to them before and they weren't very straight forward I hope it truly is the xt912!! Please post the chat as soon as you can
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Yeah I'm sure because I said xt912 more than I said RAZR. I can't post chat til tomorrow morning but i printed it and will post a picture of it when I get to work. I've been rooting and romming for about 5 years but I've always preferred to be a bystander until now and I took the time to make sure I was saying which version of RAZR and upgrading its is from 4.1.2 to 4.2 and unlocking bootloader. Hopefully the lady wasn't just trying to get rid of me but I felt she was trying to help. I might try again with a different chat person tomorrow to confirm.
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chat with moto/4.2/unlocked bootloader
here's a photo of the printed version of the chat. i did print it prematurely but there wasn't much else said beyond my question for documentation which of course they were unable to provide. sorry if it's difficult to read. you can just open photo and zoom as i'm sure you all already know cuz you're tech smart so i don't know why i said that lol
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here's a photo of the printed version of the chat. i did print it prematurely but there wasn't much else said beyond my question for documentation which of course they were unable to provide. sorry if it's difficult to read. you can just open photo and zoom as i'm sure you all already know cuz you're tech smart so i don't know why i said that lol
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Thanks for that information!back in the days,before the official 4.1.2 update rolled out,i asked motorola support from Europe about unlocking our bootloaders,but didnt recieve an answer,only that they got my question and will have a look....so í´m really excited now :good:
Wow, that's awesome! I hope they follow through with it!
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whoa, really looking forward, would be nice to experience some effort from moto side...
Not to be the downer here, but I would take that information with a grain of salt. Motorola has no reason to help such an old phone at this point. Why bother upgrading it and preventing people from buying the latest and greatest model? Think of it from moto's side...
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gtmaster303 said:
Not to be the downer here, but I would take that information with a grain of salt. Motorola has no reason to help such an old phone at this point. Why bother upgrading it and preventing people from buying the latest and greatest model? Think of it from moto's side...
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I have already!! How else are they going to give themselves 16million$ bonuses. By f*n the little guy of course:banghead:
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hit ThAnKs if I was helpful!!!
gtmaster303 said:
Not to be the downer here, but I would take that information with a grain of salt. Motorola has no reason to help such an old phone at this point. Why bother upgrading it and preventing people from buying the latest and greatest model? Think of it from moto's side...
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I don't believe they will do it, too much wing promises in the past. And their Hotline doesn't know about Motorolas plans - you can see that they whether always stop answering when it comes to specific topics or they tell you anything which turns out wrong later - this happened already a lot of times.
The only thing why they *could* unlock the bootloader: they did it for other old phones, like the Xoom, as soon as the vendors stop promoting it in example. But maybe or device will never be on that list because Moto cannot unlock it's own security lock (efuse)... We cannot know.
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Some interesting read,
[WIP] Disected Moto Files An inside look at the official motorola files by zeklandia.
Bionic bootloader unlocking discussion
Danth's approach is simply how to trick HS high security locked device to flash the mbmloader_ns.img which belongs to NS non secure unlocked device. I think he was right but unfortunately he couldn't come up with a solution for his time and efforts like others who tried. I find that whole thread interesting and informative.
Note: If you are using an HS (High Security) OMAP device, an extra step is required. First, build x-load.bin using the steps above. Then, download the MShield signing tool and use the commands below. Contact your TI representative to get access to this tool.
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source http://omappedia.org/wiki/Bootloader_Project
What do you think would happen if i try to flash mbmloader_ns.img to my locked device using the following fastboot commands ? I would definitly have done it if it had warranty, sadly when it's dead,i have no smartphone. lol
fastboot flash mbm allow-mbmloader-flashing-mbm.bin
fastboot flash mbmloader mbmloader_ns.bin
fastboot flash mbm mbm.bin
I'm trying to use a phone that will not boot up. I think that there's a good chance that reinstalling all of the original software on the phone will bring it back to operational. I could quickly jump in and follow some directions on the dozens or hundreds of sites out there providing instructions to do this, but I want some sort of guarantee that the software is legit and does not contain malware. Is there any assurance out there, or does everyone just cross their fingers and trust random strangers on the internet? Does Motorola provide any checksum hashes for their firmware, so that one can use them to verify the authenticity of so-called 'stock' software? Or is there a way to download the firmware directly from Motorola?
You cannot escape NSA ...deal with it
lummujaj said:
You cannot escape NSA ...deal with it
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Well, I can say "thanks for the bump", at least...
Depending on the device and carrier you should be able to get the stock os. Anything other then that is a leap of faith.
zelendel said:
Depending on the device and carrier you should be able to get the stock os. Anything other then that is a leap of faith.
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It's a Verizon Motorola Razr HD (XT926). I haven't tried going out to Verizon yet to see if they would flash it. I kind of figured they'd just be like "we can't do anything, but sell you a new phone", even though they could potentially reload the software -- there would just be no money in it for them. I have read where others having the same issue have said Verizon would not help them. It wouldn't hurt to try going to them, though. Do you know of any way I could do it, myself, in a way that would have a high confidence in security? Thanks for your response, zelendel.
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It's a Verizon Motorola Razr HD (XT926). I haven't tried going out to Verizon yet to see if they would flash it. I kind of figured they'd just be like "we can't do anything, but sell you a new phone", even though they could potentially reload the software -- there would just be no money in it for them. I have read where others having the same issue have said Verizon would not help them. It wouldn't hurt to try going to them, though. Do you know of any way I could do it, myself, in a way that would have a high confidence in security? Thanks for your response, zelendel.
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I'm sure the stock software is somewhere. You will just have to track it down either on vz site or moto