Motorola Droid Razr DAC? - Motorola Droid RAZR

Hi All,
I've doing a lot of research on DAC for this phone and still cannot find an answer!?
I was going for Samsung GS2 originally, but found out it has crappy Yamaha DAC running inside. So I'm thinking getting this phone or the upcoming Nexus hoping for a better listening pleasure..
Does anyone knows what DAC is this phone using??
Thanks in advance for the replies

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-RAZR-Teardown/7048/3 lists most internal parts for the RAZR. The phone has great audio quality for movies/music, tbh I wouldn't even worry about it.

Having both the International RAZR & GSII, RAZR trumps the SII for audio quality by a fair margin. Surprisingly, the audio 'enhancement' options that are so often terrible on phones aren't unbearable. I'd not read anything about them prior to getting the device, so their existence and decency were both nice surprises.
Sent from my Motorola RAZR

Quoting onslaught86.
I've tested SGS2 vs RAZR vs ATRIX and I can say, I can't hear any really noticeable difference between RAZR and ATRIX, while SGS2 is a little crappier.
Anyway, RAZR's sound output seems good. The speaker is really, really, really loud... and with my earpiece the music experience is good. Obviously it's not comparable to my X-Fi, but anyway, hey! It's a PDA!

zetsumeikuro said:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-RAZR-Teardown/7048/3 lists most internal parts for the RAZR. The phone has great audio quality for movies/music, tbh I wouldn't even worry about it.
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That is a crazy website!
Thanks for sharing that site!
(Or am I the only one who doesn't about that site!? )

ShiraiwaRiku said:
That is a crazy website!
Thanks for sharing that site!
(Or am I the only one who doesn't about that site!? )
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No problem! I think's it's been up for awhile.

looks like this phone is using ST Ericsson CPCAP 6556002
which I have no knowledge on it what so ever
but from fellow users' experiences, I guess it's not bad?
thanks for all the replies guys

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S3 Audio Quality

Hey all!
Just wanted to share my opinion ...
I personally think after using S3 for about a Week now, that S3's Audio Quality "is far superior in Comparison to an iPhone or hTc Beats".
I've used these both.
Does someone else thinks the same, or is it my Love for S3 which makes me believe this ???
(Headset Sound)
Sent from my Samsung*I9300*Galaxy S III
mustafa.millwala said:
Hey all!
Just wanted to share my opinion ...
I personally think after using S3 for about a Week now, that S3's Audio Quality "is far superior in Comparison to an iPhone or hTc Beats".
I've used these both.
Does someone else thinks the same, or is it my Love for S3 which makes me believe this ???
Sent from my Samsung*I9300*Galaxy S III
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As per other SGS3 audio posts try reading them many say not loud enough .
Personally i will not disagree with your viewpoint .
jje
I love the quality but don't think it goes loud enough; its noticeably more quiet than my S2.
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You could give franco's kernel a try, he has boosted the volume significantly and it sounds great without impacting the audio quality.
Highly recommend it, and the bonus of better battery life too
Olywa
Like I've said before, listen to a Nokia N95 speaker or headphones and you'll realise how poor S3 really is.
Michael_P said:
Like I've said before, listen to a Nokia N95 speaker or headphones and you'll realise how poor S3 really is.
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If you listen to an Xperia X8 it is better then the nokia and the s3 speaker you can actually almost hear the bass lol..
Meemo23 said:
If you listen to an Xperia X8 it is better then the nokia and the s3 speaker you can actually almost hear the bass lol..
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Yeah I have heard plenty SE and a few Motorola phones that put shame to Samsung phones.

Considering the RAZR MAXX, some doubts

Hi all, I have been an avid Motorola User. I started 2 years and a half ago with a Milestone then about 6 months ago I got an Atrix 4G. now I have to renew my contract and they are giving me the option to upgrade my cellphone. I can get either a Razr MAXX, a Galaxy Nexxus or a SGSIII for about 1/3 of the regular price, that would be about $4,000 MXN. It may not be so cheap, but I have the money and I am actually considering it.
Currently I have CM9 on my Atrix and what I do most is listen to music, check e-mail, browse the internet and about 2 hrs of calling per day. Since I got to have my 32GB SD Card, GN is out.
Since I do not really do a gaming on my cellphone nor any other processor intensive task, benchmarks are not a big concern to me. But I do have some things I'd like my phone to have:
Ultra smooth scrolling and launcher
Being able to playback .ogg and .mkv (it is important that it is capable of doing mkv smoothly)
Have the option to swith songs with volume rocker ala CM
Be able to last at least 1 day of battery (something I have troubles with on my Atrix 4G with CM9)
Have a very clear call, to be able to clearly and loudly hear the other side and have a good mic.
So how does the RAZR go against the SGSIII on that? I know that the MAXX is clearly a winner on the battery department and probably too on the call part, but what are your opinions? Is there a way to have the song change with volume rocker on the MAXX? Will it eventually get CM9, or is there a ROM with this feature?
Thanks,
Gustavo
Hi Gustavo, I can help with call quality and battery. Hopefully other folks will jump in to answer the other questions.
The Razr Maxx is a solid, reliable phone. It's one of few smartphones I've used that:
* Has never dropped a call
* I can always hear the other party (on calls) loud and clear
* The person on the other end of the call routinely hears me well -- no voice cutout or break-up.
Battery life is very good. I generally charge my Maxx every night but could easily go 2 days without charging. That's using 4G/3G cellular data only (I don't normally use wifi).
Hope this helps!
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Hi Gustavo, I can help with call quality and battery. Hopefully other folks will jump in to answer the other questions.
The Razr Maxx is a solid, reliable phone. It's one of few smartphones I've used that:
* Has never dropped a call
* I can always hear the other party (on calls) loud and clear
* The person on the other end of the call routinely hears me well -- no voice cutout or break-up.
Battery life is very good. I generally charge my Maxx every night but could easily go 2 days without charging. That's using 4G/3G cellular data only (I don't normally use wifi).
Hope this helps!
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Thanks! It is good to hear that, I am inclining more towards the Razr since I have heard there are some quality issues with the SGSIII calls.
I have Nova launcher on my Maxx, it's excellent! Battery life is out of the discussion, I think. Since you are not a benchmark buff, and are already on the Motorola boat I'd say get the Maxx. Got mine and only paid $600.00 MXN, my wife got the standard RAZR and paid $400.00 (They ran out of the Maxx variant). I watch a lot of videos, but never bother to see the type. For music I have Player Pro, love it though I wouldn't know about the rocker button function.
I have tried dozens of phones with the primary purpose of finding the phone with the very best outgoing call quality and microphone. The RAZR and Defy tie for the very best currently available, although I don't think the Defy is still in production. Samsung phones are without a doubt absolute crap as far as intelligibility at the other end goes.I have complained about this numerous times, obviously the complaints have fallen on deaf ears.
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I have tried dozens of phones with the primary purpose of finding the phone with the very best outgoing call quality and microphone. The RAZR and Defy tie for the very best currently available, although I don't think the Defy is still in production. Samsung phones are without a doubt absolute crap as far as intelligibility at the other end goes.I have complained about this numerous times, obviously the complaints have fallen on deaf ears.
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Thanks for the input, my dad used to have the original latin american SGS and the phone call quality was terrible, I wondered if that changed, but apparently not.
By the way does anyone know if there is a way of doing the volume rocker to change song thing?
i use a bt headset, se mw600
surprisingly, it is more capatible with the RAZR than with my old xperia,
since i never get the lcd on the headset to display song title properly.
the voice control is still a bit rusty, get confused From time to time, comparing to ios`s siri, but the battery really beats anything else.
sent from my fat RAZR
gusbeto37 said:
Thanks for the input, my dad used to have the original latin american SGS and the phone call quality was terrible, I wondered if that changed, but apparently not.
By the way does anyone know if there is a way of doing the volume rocker to change song thing?
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There are cm9 and aokp based roms for the razr that have that option.
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Maxx or s iii

I currently have a RAZR maxx and I'm being offered by Verizon to switch to the s iii because of problems with recent replacement phones.
2 questions.
1. Is this a smart move? Newer phone less battery.
2. I have a very old cheap unlimited data plan. I am scared of loosing it. Could that happen? I have lost a text plan this way in the past.
Thanks in advance.
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Is it an upgrade or replacement?
Upgrade will lose your plan.
Replacement will not.
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mtunender said:
I currently have a RAZR maxx and I'm being offered by Verizon to switch to the s iii because of problems with recent replacement phones.
2 questions.
1. Is this a smart move? Newer phone less battery.
2. I have a very old cheap unlimited data plan. I am scared of loosing it. Could that happen? I have lost a text plan this way in the past.
Thanks in advance.
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1. If you are like me the less battery part will hurt way to much (granted i am running custom and it crazy battery life).
Came from an s3. I'd take the maxx any day of the week
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I was on a Maxx and loved it. Switched to an S3 and liked it a lot. However I never found the love for the s3 that I had for the Maxx, so I sold it and picked up a cheap Bionic. This has been fun, but later today I am switching back to the Maxx and I'm excited. It is the phone for me.
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S III of cause ! ! !
Look the S III is a better phone by far but the fact that you have a Maxx and you've already experienced such good battery life on a smartphone switching to the S III or any smartphone in fact is going to be "poor" battery life in comparison.
If your looking at getting the S III you'll have to sacrifice battery life, but, in return your getting a Quad Core, better screen and camera, official Jellybean and way better development...
hmm
I own both and switch back and forth. If the MAXX was easily ROMable it would be no contest. I miss Jellybean when I use my MAXX and I miss the battery and radio when I use my S3. Both are great phones. One is hindered by a lousy radio and a small battery, the other is locked and un customizable. I tend to use the MAXX more since I live in a bit of a low lying area and get poor signal to begin with.
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I own both and switch back and forth. If the MAXX was easily ROMable it would be no contest. I miss Jellybean when I use my MAXX and I miss the battery and radio when I use my S3. Both are great phones. One is hindered by a lousy radio and a small battery, the other is locked and un customizable. I tend to use the MAXX more since I live in a bit of a low lying area and get poor signal to begin with.
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since you have both, could you do a voice quality test for what you sound like to others, that is, the quality of the microphone and sound compression algorithms on each Phone? This is an easy test, just read a few sentences into voicemail with each phone and then play back to hear which is most intelligible.
The Maxx has a great battery life. I had the Maxx for a good while and now I have the S3. I don't regret my move at all. Battery life isn't an issue for me. I don't live on my phone anymore since I got home internet now. Wireless Radio is the same as I got on my Maxx. I work in a fringed area and was surprised my S3 was working just as good getting all my calls and texts. The Wi-Fi range on the S3 is a lot better than it was on my Maxx. It's more consistent holding the Wi-Fi and is able to find Wi-Fi farther away than my Maxx did. The S3 camera is the best I've ever used. Picture and video quality are soooooooo nice compared to Motorola's camera work. Their crap sucks. Motorola don't make the best cameras. And I love the camera features on the S3. No shutter lag is great. I use my camera like everyday or every other day. The software is pretty easy to use on the S3 and I love it. The display is amazing. I was like stunned coming from the Maxx to an HD Super Amoled. I think the S3 is perfect sized for my hands and the way I use my phone. I do watch movies and youtube on there so that screen is nice for that.
I use to rock the Razr, then switched to Razr Maxx so I won't knock it too much. I don't regret changing to the S3 at all but everything is a personal preference on how you use your phone. The bottom line for me was I needed a better camera and it's nice to be back on a bigger screen and I like the new touchwiz by Samsung. It's nice to have toggles when you pull down the notification bar. The Motorola ICS UI is cool but was too plain for my taste. Keep in mind this is just my experience. I can't say it will be the same for someone else that made the same switch or vise versa.
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The Maxx has a great battery life. I had the Maxx for a good while and now I have the S3. I don't regret my move at all. Battery life isn't an issue for me. I don't live on my phone anymore since I got home internet now. Wireless Radio is the same as I got on my Maxx. I work in a fringed area and was surprised my S3 was working just as good getting all my calls and texts. The Wi-Fi range on the S3 is a lot better than it was on my Maxx. It's more consistent holding the Wi-Fi and is able to find Wi-Fi farther away than my Maxx did. The S3 camera is the best I've ever used. Picture and video quality are soooooooo nice compared to Motorola's camera work. Their crap sucks. Motorola don't make the best cameras. And I love the camera features on the S3. No shutter lag is great. I use my camera like everyday or every other day. The software is pretty easy to use on the S3 and I love it. The display is amazing. I was like stunned coming from the Maxx to an HD Super Amoled. I think the S3 is perfect sized for my hands and the way I use my phone. I do watch movies and youtube on there so that screen is nice for that.
I use to rock the Razr, then switched to Razr Maxx so I won't knock it too much. I don't regret changing to the S3 at all but everything is a personal preference on how you use your phone. The bottom line for me was I needed a better camera and it's nice to be back on a bigger screen and I like the new touchwiz by Samsung. It's nice to have toggles when you pull down the notification bar. The Motorola ICS UI is cool but was too plain for my taste. Keep in mind this is just my experience. I can't say it will be the same for someone else that made the same switch or vise versa.
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I'm always stunned at the thousands and thousands of detailed reviews and forum posts like this one that never mention, even in passing, how well the phone works as a TELEPHONE. As in, what does it SOUND like. I'm feeling so old now.
iolinux333 said:
I'm always stunned at the thousands and thousands of detailed reviews and forum posts like this one that never mention, even in passing, how well the phone works as a TELEPHONE. As in, what does it SOUND like. I'm feeling so old now.
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As a Telephone, MY GS3 works perfect. I can hear my callers well, I receive all my calls, texts, and voicemails in real time and not a day or two late like when I was on Sprint with the Epic 4G Touch (Sprint's S2). I can truly say it's my best cell phone I've owned to date. All the other cool stuff is just a bonus
I was a little skeptical because my S2 had a horrible wireless radio. That made me move to Verizon and get a Motorola (Known for good wireless radios). It was good and all but I see nothing less on my S3. Maybe the state I live in just happens to have great towers? Maybe I just got a S3 that doesn't have radio problems. I've read a lot of people had wireless radio problems with the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, then some had the problem with the S3, so I wasn't sure if I wanted to make the move back to a Samsung phone. But I did it and it's been a great ride so far. I can't wait for the official Jelly Bean update (when ever Verizon gets that to us lol).
I have an S3, and I am dreaming about the Razd Maxx HD, but since I'm irish, I cant get it here. So that leaves me 3 options.
1., I can stay with S3, and live with that
2., I can switch to Note2, and check how that works out for me. Never had such a huge device, I'm afraid it looks silly when I hold it to my ears.
3., I can buy a Razr Maxx, model from last year, because I really want a good battery life.
which one you suggest for me?
Aylarth said:
I have an S3, and I am dreaming about the Razd Maxx HD, but since I'm irish, I cant get it here. So that leaves me 3 options.
1., I can stay with S3, and live with that
2., I can switch to Note2, and check how that works out for me. Never had such a huge device, I'm afraid it looks silly when I hold it to my ears.
3., I can buy a Razr Maxx, model from last year, because I really want a good battery life.
which one you suggest for me?
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I roll with the S3 and I think it kicks the crap out of anything else that's dual core processor. I use to have the Razr Maxx. It doesn't even compare. Only thing better on the Maxx is the battery life. So far the most I've seen out of the S3 battery is a tad over 6 hours of "screen on time" at 13 percent battery left. But that's with 4G off for the most part. My Verizon 3G is fast enough or else I'm connected to Wi-Fi.
The Note 2 looks nice if you don't mind the size. I'm not really a stylus person with my phone so I wouldn't get the Note 2 but it's all a preference.
There's no reason to go to the Maxx. You can get extended batteries for the S3 and most likely the Note 2 since they both have removable backs. The Razr HD is cool. The S3 does have occasional lag on the dual core variants, I can't lie about that but it's nothing compared to the lag I had on my previous Maxx. The lag on that Razr annoyed the crap out of me. I seen some reviews saying it's not much different on the Razr HD. Now if you have the S3 with the quad core processor, I assume it doesn't lag much at all but I can't really say since I've never played with one.
Why are you dreaming for the Razr HD? Besides a step up in battery it seems to be a step down from the GS3 in my opinion. I've read some people rag on the GS3 wireless radio not being good for them but I have no problems with mines. My wireless radio see's nothing less than I did with my Razr Maxx. The Wi-Fi range is better on the S3.
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I roll with the S3 and I think it kicks the crap out of anything else that's dual core processor. I use to have the Razr Maxx. It doesn't even compare. Only thing better on the Maxx is the battery life. So far the most I've seen out of the S3 battery is a tad over 6 hours of "screen on time" at 13 percent battery left. But that's with 4G off for the most part. My Verizon 3G is fast enough or else I'm connected to Wi-Fi.
The Note 2 looks nice if you don't mind the size. I'm not really a stylus person with my phone so I wouldn't get the Note 2 but it's all a preference.
There's no reason to go to the Maxx. You can get extended batteries for the S3 and most likely the Note 2 since they both have removable backs. The Razr HD is cool. The S3 does have occasional lag on the dual core variants, I can't lie about that but it's nothing compared to the lag I had on my previous Maxx. The lag on that Razr annoyed the crap out of me. I seen some reviews saying it's not much different on the Razr HD. Now if you have the S3 with the quad core processor, I assume it doesn't lag much at all but I can't really say since I've never played with one.
Why are you dreaming for the Razr HD? Besides a step up in battery it seems to be a step down from the GS3 in my opinion. I've read some people rag on the GS3 wireless radio not being good for them but I have no problems with mines. My wireless radio see's nothing less than I did with my Razr Maxx. The Wi-Fi range is better on the S3.
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The droid RAZR HD maxx scores much higher than the gs3 in quadrant (I know its kind of inconsistent but its something) and since there will most likely be a custom ROM on the device I doubt there would be much lag. I never see lag on my RAZR maxx and it scores relatively low on quadrant.
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prsterero said:
The droid RAZR HD maxx scores much higher than the gs3 in quadrant (I know its kind of inconsistent but its something) and since there will most likely be a custom ROM on the device I doubt there would be much lag. I never see lag on my RAZR maxx and it scores relatively low on quadrant.
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I care more about actual day to day performance. Quadrant doesn't mean much to me. Not to knock it or anything I just don't really care much for it. I've had both so I can truly speak on both. There's less lag on the GS3 and the phone is much better overall to me. Obviously you can't compare battery life. Nothing beats the Maxx/Maxx HD stock battery. When it comes to extended batteries there are some bigger ones than 3,300 mAh for the S3.
You've never seen lag on the stock 211 ICS build for the Razr Maxx? That's pretty cool. With the lag issue I'm more referring to the stock builds of each phone. I'm not talking about custom roms or any over/under clocking.
Thanks for your contribution guys!
I am using a lot of tethering on my phone, so I can create a hotspot for my wifi-only tablet. Thats why the battery is a big deal for me. Other than that, I am using the phone for calls, texts, and sometimes for photos, but I can live without the last one. My GS3 is the european version so yea, it has quad core processor and no lag so far, even though WANAM is cool, I've had some troubles with his rom and with every bigger sized roms too if its about lagging. With HyperLight/HyperGalaxy ROM I have no lag at all, so thats my daily driver atm.
Why don't you just get extended batteries for when you do tethering? There's a good amount out there for the S3, at least in the USA there is. You should look up on ordering some if they got'em over there. I
Thank Me Later said:
As a Telephone, MY GS3 works perfect. I can hear my callers well, I receive all my calls, texts, and voicemails in real time and not a day or two late like when I was on Sprint with the Epic 4G Touch (Sprint's S2). I can truly say it's my best cell phone I've owned to date. All the other cool stuff is just a bonus
I was a little skeptical because my S2 had a horrible wireless radio. That made me move to Verizon and get a Motorola (Known for good wireless radios). It was good and all but I see nothing less on my S3. Maybe the state I live in just happens to have great towers? Maybe I just got a S3 that doesn't have radio problems. I've read a lot of people had wireless radio problems with the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, then some had the problem with the S3, so I wasn't sure if I wanted to make the move back to a Samsung phone. But I did it and it's been a great ride so far. I can't wait for the official Jelly Bean update (when ever Verizon gets that to us lol).
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Thanks for telling us how others sound to you. Could you comment on how you sound to others? My experience has been that Motorola phones have always had far superior microphones and compression algorithms so I sound much clearer to the person I'm talking to, whereas Samsung phones have been ****e in comparison.
I sound fine to people I talk to. I never asked them to rank it like 1 - 10 but they say they can hear me good. There's nothing wrong with call quality or wireless radio on my S3. The 4G is actually faster on my S3 when I ran speed test app.

Moved to a Nexus 4, but I'm keeping my Atrix

After the fustercluck that Motorola gave us, I decided to never again be at the end of the software update curve.
I love my Nexus 4. But, damn it, the sound sucks. I use V-Moda LP2s and it's like a 5/6 out of 10. The Atrix (with CM7.2) has louder sound, better dynamic range, and the bass is full on better! I actually realized that the Atrix is hands down the best media player I've had in a long time.
So I'm keeping it. As much as I hated to use it as a daily driver, it will serve its purpose as my music player. That is until CM10.1 is released for the Mako (Nexus 4) and I am hoping it at the very least reproduces the same sound quality as the Atrix.
Makes me wonder what the sound ship is on the Nexus 4, and on the Atrix and how they compare to each other. Anyone have any ideas?
Our Atrix has a WM9803L DAC chipset, a Wolfson model which is the same in some other nVidia T2 AP20H SoC whereas the Nexus 4 uses Qualcomm's own WCD9310 DAC chipset, also included in other S4 Pro SoC (e.g. in SGS3's US version).
I hope that it'll help you on your research.
Thanks, I appreciate that a lot.
Moved to the Nexus a while back and came around here to see what was up. Seems pretty dead.
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You mean internal DSPs on each phone? Nexus' speaker always used to suck but I heard nothing wrong about speakers.
Following u Soon!!
I moved forward to the SGSII a while back, but I'm still a proud Atrix owner.
Most phones I eventually sell, but my Atrix is definitely a backup keeper...
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Do you mean through the speakers or the headphone jack?
I've moved across to the Lumia 920 (and love it) but the sound quality out of the Atrix does beat it, especially when connecting a headphone into the headphone jack. The speaker loudness are similar but the Atrix does sound better still. I'll too be using it to sit in my car as a music device.
I was going to get on a Nexus 4 but I don't want to support Google after the Atrix debacle. SG2 gets JB, while we're stuck on Gingerbread even though Google owns Motorola. What a joke. WP8 is much nicer to use anyway.
devize said:
Do you mean through the speakers or the headphone jack?
I've moved across to the Lumia 920 (and love it) but the sound quality out of the Atrix does beat it, especially when connecting a headphone into the headphone jack. The speaker loudness are similar but the Atrix does sound better still. I'll too be using it to sit in my car as a music device.
I was going to get on a Nexus 4 but I don't want to support Google after the Atrix debacle. SG2 gets JB, while we're stuck on Gingerbread even though Google owns Motorola. What a joke. WP8 is much nicer to use anyway.
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Didn't notice I was clear. Definitely the headphone jack. Audio is just so much better, and CM7.2 just adds that extra serving of bass and dynamic range (via the DSP) that puts the audio far into the lead.
On Stock, the Atrix ties with the iPhone 4S, but the DSP on CM7.2 is fab! Hoping to recreate this experience with other devices, but from the looks of it, the Snapdragon Pro 4 Audio Chip sucks. And this chip is on a lot of new phones, it's on that new Sony Xperia Z too.
i've always had nokia phones so the atrix was my first foray into android. i do have to say paired up with my sony mdr7506, the atrix is a pretty damn good media player, probably besting every nokia i've had.
I've enjoyed *most* of my timeline with this Atrix, except of course for the face slap Motorola gave it & stopped updates waaayyy too early. And my next potential phone is probably the N4.
Right now though I'm waiting in hopes the XDA developers manage success in building a stable Olympus ICS/JB kernel for the Atrix. If they succeed that'll probably keep me in Atrix heaven for quite a while longer
Atrix love
I really loved my Atrix HW wise, SW wise... not so much. Thank god for rooting and custom kernels!
BTW, a friend got the Atrix 2 a while back, and he swapped it for an Atrix 4G.
NordicMan said:
I've enjoyed *most* of my timeline with this Atrix, except of course for the face slap Motorola gave it & stopped updates waaayyy too early. And my next potential phone is probably the N4.
Right now though I'm waiting in hopes the XDA developers manage success in building a stable Olympus ICS/JB kernel for the Atrix. If they succeed that'll probably keep me in Atrix heaven for quite a while longer
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Yeah, frustrating to see development not going as fast as initially thought. Would love to keep Atrix longer.
i love my atrix 4g, and thanks to eprinter to the 10.1 almost working everything,i will keep my moto until it stop working
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Audio is just so much better, and CM7.2 just adds that extra serving of bass and dynamic range (via the DSP) that puts the audio far into the lead.
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Hi, have you tried Atrix on CM10.1? I'm just wondering if it can get any better than CM7.2...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060064
WalkerBR said:
Hi, have you tried Atrix on CM10.1? I'm just wondering if it can get any better than CM7.2...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060064
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Sorry for the late reply. I have since moved on to a Note 3 N9005, but the audio on the Motorola Atrix running CM7.2 is still #1 for me. NONE of the CM10.1 releases replicates the audio quality of the CM7.2 release. I don't know why, but that's it in my experience. I think Ill buy another Atrix as a backup media device / phone when it really comes down in price.
The.Opethian said:
Sorry for the late reply. I have since moved on to a Note 3 N9005, but the audio on the Motorola Atrix running CM7.2 is still #1 for me. NONE of the CM10.1 releases replicates the audio quality of the CM7.2 release. I don't know why, but that's it in my experience. I think Ill buy another Atrix as a backup media device / phone when it really comes down in price.
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50-70 bucks? What? Are we waiting for a nearly free device?
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50-70 bucks? What? Are we waiting for a nearly free device?
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Whoah! $50-$70? Where?!
At the moment it's still going for around £130 on eBay, which is the same price as a Moto G, well at least when the last time I checked that was the price!
I'll have a closer look...
Thats the cheapest price for a working A4G. I'll be picking up one myself later on this week (digitizer issues)
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I picked my A4g, for around $70 with free shipping, in eBay. Running the mokee MK42 ROM. Great phone, still waiting for my sim unlock code though. Coming from a blackberry and iPhone, the sound quality is mind blowing.
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Audio is far inferior to V20

Tested back to back with my wife's V20 using the included AKG earbuds using a high fidelity flac file of the Allman Brothers song Old Friend, which is two acoustic guitars with strong vocals. Night and day, there was far more detail and less hiss using the V20. Tested also with hih quality flac files of Metallica and Andrea Bocelli. Same. Far more detail.
Used Poweramp Alpha with high fidelity output enabled. Nothing scientific, just back to hack.
I mostly like the Note 8 otherwise, but for sound quality alone I think I'll return for the V30 when it comes out. Haven't Used the S Pen hardly at all, which surprised me. For me, audio quality is important.
Just one man''s opinion.
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Tested back to back with my wife's V20 using the included AKG earbuds using a high fidelity flac file of the Allman Brothers song Old Friend, which is two acoustic guitars with strong vocals. Night and day, there was far more detail and less hiss using the V20. Tested also with hih quality flac files of Metallica and Andrea Bocelli. Same. Far more detail.
Used Poweramp Alpha with high fidelity output enabled. Nothing scientific, just back to hack.
I mostly like the Note 8 otherwise, but for sound quality alone I think I'll return for the V30 when it comes out. Haven't Used the S Pen hardly at all, which surprised me. For me, audio quality is important.
Just one man''s opinion.
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So what was your purpose of buying a Note then if you had no intention of using the pen? Seems you bought it for all the wrong reasons and decided to post here to get others to sway away from the Note 8.
Just information others might find useful sir. Not trying to sway anyone in any direction.
You are comparing a phone that was made for quality audio to a phone that wasn't.
Now, LG V20 stylus is inferior compared to the Notes.
"audio quality is important"... what the Note 8 could do was known before you ordered it. Sorry but all one had to do is search and then look at the history of Galaxy phones in regards to sound. For me the word 'NOTE" says it all. Now.. again for ME... MUSIC? Yeah.. not going with any phone
After my Note 7 Fiasco I got the LG v20. The sound was good on it. But I don't listen to anything on my phones anyway. The phone it's self was ok at best. The LG v30 will be the same. Lg is incapable of making a phone with the build quality like the Note. I can tell by looking at the v30 that it is going to feel cheap.
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Tested back to back with my wife's V20 using the included AKG earbuds using a high fidelity flac file of the Allman Brothers song Old Friend, which is two acoustic guitars with strong vocals. Night and day, there was far more detail and less hiss using the V20. Tested also with hih quality flac files of Metallica and Andrea Bocelli. Same. Far more detail.
Used Poweramp Alpha with high fidelity output enabled. Nothing scientific, just back to hack.
I mostly like the Note 8 otherwise, but for sound quality alone I think I'll return for the V30 when it comes out. Haven't Used the S Pen hardly at all, which surprised me. For me, audio quality is important.
Just one man''s opinion.
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Opinions are always welcome but your opinion is of the "duh really" variety. If you want the best sound get a V10, V20, or V30 when it arrives. For that matter I'll trade you my U11 straight up, if music is that important to you.
Enjoy your Note8.
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After my Note 7 Fiasco I got the LG v20. The sound was good on it. But I don't listen to anything on my phones anyway. The phone it's self was ok at best. The LG v30 will be the same. Lg is incapable of making a phone with the build quality like the Note. I can tell by looking at the v30 that it is going to feel cheap.
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Agreed, I got the LG V20 and regretted it quickly. Loved the audio, but not much else.
Wow. Harsh crowd. Sorry y'all were so offended. Was just sharing intel/opinion that might be useful to prospective buyers.
In any case, hope the discussion is useful to someone. It's still a stellar piece of engineering.
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tomplatz said:
Tested back to back with my wife's V20 using the included AKG earbuds using a high fidelity flac file of the Allman Brothers song Old Friend, which is two acoustic guitars with strong vocals. Night and day, there was far more detail and less hiss using the V20. Tested also with hih quality flac files of Metallica and Andrea Bocelli. Same. Far more detail.
Used Poweramp Alpha with high fidelity output enabled. Nothing scientific, just back to hack.
I mostly like the Note 8 otherwise, but for sound quality alone I think I'll return for the V30 when it comes out. Haven't Used the S Pen hardly at all, which surprised me. For me, audio quality is important.
Just one man''s opinion.
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Question...... How did u get hi-res? I had it on my note 4, but not on the note 8. Same apk even
See it's not there
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Wow. Harsh crowd. Sorry y'all were so offended. Was just sharing intel/opinion that might be useful to prospective buyers.
In any case, hope the discussion is useful to someone. It's still a stellar piece of engineering.
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It was kind of a given with the V20's quad-dac, but appreciated none the less
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I'm not sure, just downloaded v704 and ran. Also purchased poweramp unlocked, maybe that?
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I'm not sure, just downloaded v704 and ran. Also purchased poweramp unlocked, maybe that?
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I have 703, and same on the note 4. How did u get 704? I go on the poweramp website and go to download but there no link to click on.
704 is only available from the Poweramp forum. It's easy to find there.
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Wow. Harsh crowd. Sorry y'all were so offended. Was just sharing intel/opinion that might be useful to prospective buyers.
In any case, hope the discussion is useful to someone. It's still a stellar piece of engineering.
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Agreed, I got the LG V20 and regretted it quickly. Loved the audio, but not much else.
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I'm no the same boat...i actually got the v20 too after returning the note 7....i too wasn't too happy with the V20...i missed the note 7 camera and stylus. Can't wait to get the note 8...
but agree...the audio for the v20 was pretty good...
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tomplatz said:
Wow. Harsh crowd. Sorry y'all were so offended. Was just sharing intel/opinion that might be useful to prospective buyers.
In any case, hope the discussion is useful to someone. It's still a stellar piece of engineering.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Agreed, I got the LG V20 and regretted it quickly. Loved the audio, but not much else.
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I'm on the same boat...i actually got the v20 too after returning the note 7....i too wasn't too happy with the V20...i missed the note 7 camera and stylus. Can't wait to get the note 8...
but agree...the audio for the v20 was pretty good...
When I first receive my Note 8. I was despised with how it sounds.
I think you want to make your own adapt sound setting first. only then it sounds good. really good.
Listen with Tidal and Neuron. boy. it sounds so good!!
Adapt sound on note 8 is much more better than adapt sound on my last note 3
Yeah amhave to agree with everyone else. If audio is important, LG V10/30 is for you.
Comparing quad dacs to what Samsung offers is not an even match.
If audio is important, i would advise you to get a separate audio device. I have note 8 as my daily driver for work, personal and games. I own a DP-CM1X for audio with 2.5mm balanced cable to my im03.
intruda119 said:
Yeah amhave to agree with everyone else. If audio is important, LG V10/30 is for you.
Comparing quad dacs to what Samsung offers is not an even match.
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I have the Note FE, Note 8 and LG V20.
Note 8 is much better than the Note FE but no way as good as the V20 when you use 24 bit music (Lossless). But I believe most consumers use streaming services which use high but rate MP3s so most so consumers would be happy with the Note 8. I am not which is why I use a dedicated Sony NW ZX300 DAP.

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