Juice Defender free? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Ok so ive been using JD for months and months. Ive heard lots of mixed reviews on it, opinions please?

http://www.google.com/cse?q=juicede...59-1#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=juicedefender&gsc.page=1
My opinion is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349714

I never liked it and it didn't seem like it did all too much for me. I do use Juice Plotter though.

Why not just the system built-in power saving

More than anything else I like about juice defender (though I'm using ultimate) is wifi management. Auto shuts off wifi when I'm out of range, but every so often turns it on for a few seconds to see if there's any known networks nearby, if not it immediately shuts it off again. It's rare I ever have to manually turn my wifi on or off.
And I have noticed better battery life with auto sync shut off when the screen if off. I have it set to check every 20 minutes.
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Well whats your opinion since you have been using for months and months?

I know it wasn't directed at me but I have used it for months. And I like it alot. It doesn't get in the way. If it's bothering you then it's not set up right. I like knowing autosync apps only run once every 20 minutes instead of continously. And I regularly am happy when I look at my phone and it's either connected to a network I know or off.
As far as how much it extends my battery, i don't know. I have a 3500mah battery. Makes it hard to figure out how much smaller tweaks do when the battery lasts beyond all day already.
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The main problem I had, even with Juice defender ultimate, was that background apps like trillian or irc don't work even when the app enable is on... enabling and disabling juice defender was a pain in the ass, and I barely saw any extra battery life. Sometimes the settings would reset, and the app takes a long time to load to re-enable it... The only thing that I do like about it is the nighttime schedule where it disables all traffic during certain hours of the night (keeps me asleep) however, there are plenty of other apps that do that, and JD is not worth it.

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[Q] Managing the Poor Battery

Just picked this up for my girlfriend. I currently have an Incredible, rooted with CM. She will not (or at least I havent convinced her to) let me root at this point.
What are some ways/apps to help manage the battery?? Connecting to Wifi at work will help the 3G/4G search drain but I need to take it further.
I'm looking for all suggestions, from sync setup to brightness setup to animations to apps.
Set the screen to automatically turn off after 15-30 seconds, use the LTE on/off app to disable 4G by forcing 3G only unless you need the extra speed (assuming you even have 4G where you are), don't use dynamic themes, limit how often apps sync data, set the screen brightness to automatic, and use a task killer to manually kill (don't use auto-kill unless there is an auto-kill whitelist as most apps don't need it) stubborn apps that want to constantly run in the background.
If and when she is willing to let you root it, then use SetCPU to underclock when the screen is off and freeze (or rename) the built in apps that she doesn't use as many of them will not only run on boot but will keep reloading themselves if killed.
Using all of that, I can get over 30 hours on standby assuming fairly light usage (a few hours of talking via bluetooth). Of course, with heavy usage (such as with streaming video like the tv.com or epix apps) the battery life is much lower.
elpeterson said:
Just picked this up for my girlfriend. I currently have an Incredible, rooted with CM. She will not (or at least I havent convinced her to) let me root at this point.
What are some ways/apps to help manage the battery?? Connecting to Wifi at work will help the 3G/4G search drain but I need to take it further.
I'm looking for all suggestions, from sync setup to brightness setup to animations to apps.
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Use juice defender from the market to turn off 4G while the screen is off. This added about 4 hours of battery life to my phone, standard battery.
Juice defender and green power are both great apps. As far as killing tasks, I've read that killing tasks can actually decrease your battery life because of how android handles the tasks and ram.
Androids tries to keep as many apps in ram to make loading faster, and if you kill all apps, the system will start loading them again, using more of your cpu, therefore decreasing barry life and slowing the phone down. Android had a very good and smart task manager built in to the os.
That is my understanding. If I am wrong, please correct me.
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If you can't root, the next best option is a spare or extended battery. Apps like Juice Defender help a little, but no software can replace a real battery. I used JD until I bought some batteries on ebay.
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Tell her to either let you root it, or you will sell the TB and get her a WP7 phone...
orkillakilla said:
Juice defender and green power are both great apps. As far as killing tasks, I've read that killing tasks can actually decrease your battery life because of how android handles the tasks and ram.
Androids tries to keep as many apps in ram to make loading faster, and if you kill all apps, the system will start loading them again, using more of your cpu, therefore decreasing barry life and slowing the phone down. Android had a very good and smart task manager built in to the os.
That is my understanding. If I am wrong, please correct me.
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It can, but there are also quite a few apps that will keep consuming lots of CPU cycles in the background. Some games are like this as well as some of the video streaming apps.
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It can, but there are also quite a few apps that will keep consuming lots of CPU cycles in the background. Some games are like this as well as some of the video streaming apps.
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This is true. Autostarts (in the market) prevents such apps from running in the background & draining battery.
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my phone is rooted, bloat removed, cm7 installed - i had this weird issue last night where i was charged up to 100% went to bed and phone was dead in the AM. apparently it died about 5 hours in. I looked at the battery info and saw that nothing was running, but the phone kept going "awake" intermittently. Looking at spare parts for the detailed abttery info i didn;'t see anything that was holding wake locks...
Not sure what the issue was. Doesn't seem to be happening anymore
elpeterson said:
Just picked this up for my girlfriend. I currently have an Incredible, rooted with CM. She will not (or at least I havent convinced her to) let me root at this point.
What are some ways/apps to help manage the battery?? Connecting to Wifi at work will help the 3G/4G search drain but I need to take it further.
I'm looking for all suggestions, from sync setup to brightness setup to animations to apps.
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Turn off wifi when its not available.. scanning for it can drain your battery quite a lot. Obviously turn 4g seach off if you are not near a 4g area. I have my screen turned down to about 30-40% and it stays there(its quite bright at that % anyways). Dont use any task killing programs.. android OS has a very nifty task killer program on it already where it prioritizes what tasks stay running or don't. I have heard good things about juice defender you might want to check it out. Turn off sync for all apps and put the manual sync widget on your screen and that will also save some battery. Those should help some but a big one which killed my battery before I rooted was the bloatware apps that HTC puts on the phone. Blockbuster runs something in the background that will kill your battery. It is called PMVtpServiceStart force stop it in running processes and open up blockbuster then install the latest update and then force close it again and blockbuster. That should stop it from running. However you have to do this every time you reboot. Those are all my suggestions.. maybe buy a car charger if you drive a lot. I have one and its nifty to just plug it in whenever I drive to get a little bit more power! Good luck on your phone. PM me if you have any more questions.
i loved juice defender and used to recommend it to everyone, but a week or so ago, i had an issue to where my 3G stopped working altogether. I could still turn my 4G on, and force 3G to come on to check for software updates, but then it would go back off. After 24 hrs of no 3G, i uninstalled Juice defender, and after a couple of reboots, 3G came back on.
I guess there is no way to prove for sure if it was juice defender, but i feel that it was. If you are willing to take the risk, i was able to get 1.6 to 1.8 times more battery life out of juice defender.
sundar2012 said:
my phone is rooted, bloat removed, cm7 installed - i had this weird issue last night where i was charged up to 100% went to bed and phone was dead in the AM. apparently it died about 5 hours in. I looked at the battery info and saw that nothing was running, but the phone kept going "awake" intermittently. Looking at spare parts for the detailed abttery info i didn;'t see anything that was holding wake locks...
Not sure what the issue was. Doesn't seem to be happening anymore
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might be a problem with the charging cable, and the phone would connect and disconnect and so it would wake constantly, had this before
yisroelg1 said:
might be a problem with the charging cable, and the phone would connect and disconnect and so it would wake constantly, had this before
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It wasn't plugged in at the time.
Schedonnardus said:
i loved juice defender and used to recommend it to everyone, but a week or so ago, i had an issue to where my 3G stopped working altogether. I could still turn my 4G on, and force 3G to come on to check for software updates, but then it would go back off. After 24 hrs of no 3G, i uninstalled Juice defender, and after a couple of reboots, 3G came back on.
I guess there is no way to prove for sure if it was juice defender, but i feel that it was. If you are willing to take the risk, i was able to get 1.6 to 1.8 times more battery life out of juice defender.
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can juice defender control 4g?
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can juice defender control 4g?
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i'm not sure, i typically had my 4g turned off unless i had a big download or was streaming/using mobile hotspot. It would automatically shut the 3G off when the screen was locked, but then one day the 3G just wouldn't come back on. I went into the wireless network settings and flipped the LTE back on, and that worked fine. With my work, I am in/out of 3G-4G coverage, so having just 4G is unacceptable. After uninstalling juice defender and restarting several times, it came back on. Could have been a coincidence, could have been the MR2 radio, could have been a combo, i don't know.
Does the TB continue to search for 4G when the screen is off? Or does the 4G only drain your battery when you're actually connected to it?

What apps do you use to help with battery life?

I currently have JuiceDefender Ultimate (Waiting on CyanogenMod port because it works best with it) No-Frills-CPU Control and Autokiller Memory Optimizer.
Phone is rooted
Personally, I dont use anything extra and my phone gets GREAT battery life
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Why would you use those programs I'm sure they kill battery life faster I have lots of sync'd accounts on my phone and keep it on high performance and I get 16+ hours of battery with phone games and more if I turn on my custom battery setting from the stock battery manager I have gotten almost 2 days of life. You need to reevaluate bro battery on this phone is sick I even have an extra battery and have never had to use it.
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abrcrmdl23 said:
Why would you use those programs I'm sure they kill battery life faster I have lots of sync'd accounts on my phone and keep it on high performance and I get 16+ hours of battery with phone games and more if I turn on my custom battery setting from the stock battery manager I have gotten almost 2 days of life. You need to reevaluate bro battery on this phone is sick I even have an extra battery and have never had to use it.
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I used my phone moderately with some email usage, calls and a few games and i got about 13 hours of battery life and had about 6% battery juice left to spare. How are you getting som much battery life? Did you do anything with the Sprint Bloatware? Did you uninstall some apps or freeze the. P
Thanks in advance....
I use Y5 to auto enable/disable my WiFi connections. Keeps the phone on Wifi as much as possible and I don't have to mess with it.
Juice defender does that. Before I had wifi constantly on, gps, 4g and battery wasnt what id expect. I mean ive never had it die on me yet but close. No frills controls clock speed depending on how much I need. Since ive installed juice and no frills battery is way better.
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depends on what im doing. If i plan to be using my phone in and out of my pocket alot, ill have juice defender turned on.
if i know im going to be talking alot that day, texting and not much need for internet, then ill just leave my 3g widget off for mobile network.
other then that, the phone has great battery life.
I must say, on my evo i got super annal about having full charge and wanting to keep charging it all the time. I swear id get an uneasy feeling in my stomach if it went below 50%. when i first got this phone and had the 10% marks instead of the 1% marks, my brain about blew up and i didnt know what to do! lol
but now ive began to like the 10% marks bc im not as annal about wanting to plug my phone in bc now i dont see the amount it dropped in the last few minutes.
in all.. i guess this phone was made for me, or like the windows 7 people "my name is logan, and i invented the photon"
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I currently have JuiceDefender Ultimate (Waiting on CyanogenMod port because it works best with it) No-Frills-CPU Control and Autokiller Memory Optimizer.
Phone is rooted
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I'm in the same boat as you. I've been using/trying juice defender and have it set on balanced. It says I save about 1.5% every day. I have to email accounts syncing, text about 50 a day and use about 10min of internet and I was down to 40% in 9hrs. This was with out make a phone call today. Juice defender doesn't seem to really help anything.
I use an app called Brightness Profiles from the Market. Used it on my old HTC Hero as well. Its a precise, quick and easy way to manually control the screen brightness. Most of the time indoors I have brightness set to 0 or 10% which is plenty bright for me and saves a ton of battery.
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I use an app called Brightness Profiles from the Market. Used it on my old HTC Hero as well. Its a precise, quick and easy way to manually control the screen brightness. Most of the time indoors I have brightness set to 0 or 10% which is plenty bright for me and saves a ton of battery.
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I was just noticing the brightness of the Photon's screen last night just before fallin asleep. My evo on 0% was DARK in a dark room, but at 100% in the sun you couldnt see. The photon seems to be in a different ballpark. 0% it still looks super bright and 100% is WOW a light in the sky.
when i look at when my battery is being drained the most, its def when that screen is on. i think a rom or theme with black/night colors will def help out because the bright colors of white are probably not any aid to the battery conservation.
yesterday i kept juice defender off all day. got 14 hours and 37 minutes till it hit the 30% mark and the icon changed colors. i had about 2 hours of web surfing, about 3 hours of total call time, and about 150 texts and almost a dozen MMS. (buddy just picked up a new chocolate lab puppy )
so im impressed. i def agree, looks like juice defender is not a good fit for the phone yet. the toggling radios on and off probably kills alot of power.
I have to agree, Juice Defender doesn't seem to be doing much. I get around 1.47-1.6 with JuiceDefender.
Other than that I run SetCPU with my profiles set up.
I some times when I am at work use a custom battery setting which pots screen at lowest and disables data during peak hours after 45 minutes of inactivity. It works great especially when I am at work and have some longer breaks between checking my phone. I also work and live right next to a sprint tower so I always have great coverage.
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I still need to use juice defender ultimate for about a week to get a good history from it but right now im at almost 19hrs to full battery drain.
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Juice Defender, 36-38 hours before switching to 2nd battery.
Set to sync all every 1 hour. Twitter, corporate mail, 2 gmails, corp calender, contacts, etc.
The main difference is I set the screen to off in Juice Defender under toggles, not to trigger the data on just because I pulled the phone out and turned the screen on, doesn't mean I want to get on the web. I can easily pull up local info w/o that. In the morning, and in the evening, wifi is on for 30 mins or less each time to download podcasts on doggcatcher.
Lots of texts, calls , 150+ emails delivered a day, plenty of app usage, plenty of google.com searches. Maybe 1-2 app updates a day. Audio and video usage around 3-4 hrs daily.
I can go to work at 7:20 in the morning, get off at 5-5:30, and my batt stats are 75% left. Am usually sitting at 60-65% left by that 12th hour.
Can you let me know what your exact juice defender settings are? I have ultimate juice defender and am lucky to get 8 hrs per charge,
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Can you let me know what your exact juice defender settings are? I have ultimate juice defender and am lucky to get 8 hrs per charge,
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That's because you actually use your phone. These people who claim 30+ hrs of battery just have it sitting around most of the day not doing anything on it...very minimal use. For people who bought a smart phone to actually use the "smart" features of it, they will see anywhere between 8 -15, of good use. Keep in mind these phone are only rated for 7-8 hrs of continuous use, max. I say, use it how you want, don't cripple your phone with auto killers and apps that turn your data off, that's the whole point of your smart phone is to consume and transmit data. Use it how its meant to be used and enjoy it!
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If you have root I would say autokiller memory optimizer. Has some cool features.
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Zor Omega said:
That's because you actually use your phone. These people who claim 30+ hrs of battery just have it sitting around most of the day not doing anything on it...very minimal use. For people who bought a smart phone to actually use the "smart" features of it, they will see anywhere between 8 -15, of good use. Keep in mind these phone are only rated for 7-8 hrs of continuous use, max. I say, use it how you want, don't cripple your phone with auto killers and apps that turn your data off, that's the whole point of your smart phone is to consume and transmit data. Use it how its meant to be used and enjoy it!
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Well said. My advice is just find a cheep aftermarket battery and keep it handy just in case.
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Why buy juice defender when the photon has these features built in. Just go to battery mode and chose "Maximum battery saver". After 15 mins it will turn off all syncing activity. Also when you're not using your phone turn off syncing completely it really helps your phone last 10-15 hours easily. I'm a very heavy user so while I'm at work I just turn off sync! Plus I also received a replacement battery from Motorola because my original battery had problems. I couldn't get more than 8 hours with the first battery (maybe defective) so they sent new one.
I agree with the post on people claiming 20-30 hrs.. they flat out dont google and drool over theyre screen all day.. like most others do though.. that is why batt life is always always will be a huge issue!
Nothing ever really will help kernels.. roms ...juice def..undervolting.. it really
dont make the huge diff people expect..
Samsung has about the best batt life youll find on an android device.. with the exception of a few devices.. dual core affects alot more than a noticeable benifit!
Only real option to date is a EXTENDED BATTERY!
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Juice Defender

Is anyone using it for their Prime and if so, what settings do you suggest?
Can't see a reason to bother. Battery life is pretty phenomenal without messing with it.
If you have a dock it's even better.
If you want better battery life, just turn off your wifi when you put it to sleep. The only thing that really eats up data is wifi and cell data (which we dont have)
Yeah, Juice Defender is not going to do anything for a non-3G/cellular device. JD works by shutting down the 3G antennas for periods of time, so it won't work if you don't have 3G.
I will say that I have learned to just leave my prime on power saving mode and let the internal core-switching take care of itself. I have the keyboard as well, and I only charge the pair a couple of times a week.
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I have being using Juice Defender on my Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 1 year by now and its doing a great job there, so once I got my hands on the Prime, I installed it there.
It didnt do any much difference, the Prime already manages the power surprisingly well. The battery lasts with me for about 2 days of heavy usage with torrent working most of the time.
But if you still wants to use it, I set the JD to the advanced mode, pretty much everything that come as default I didnt touch but I set to toggle the wireless at 10kbs/30 secs
The options that makes the big difference are Cell data stuff and we dont have it so not much what to do there anyway
I found setting the prime on power saving good enough though. IMHO what can help out the battery pushing it to last ever further is a custom firmware like Cyanogen which I hope to see it in the future. Or some small bug fixes from Asus.

Will the people that get awesome battery life share what they are running?

I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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All in my sig.
I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
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Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
1heffer said:
We're pretty close.
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SightSeeker said:
Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.

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One thing I found to save power that I don't really see posted anywhere is by using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=AutomateItPro.mainPackage&feature=more_from_developer#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEwMiwiQXV0b21hdGVJdFByby5tYWluUGFja2FnZSJd
I have it programed to turn off 3G/mobile data when it screen's off....unless I have a certain app running like say the browser. It will then keep data connected until the browser is closed, then the screen turned off. I then have it turn 3G/mobile data on as soon as I screen on again, so it's ready to rock instantly. I personally noticed a huge difference in my battery drain when not using the phone.
The app is pretty cool, you can program a ton of things. I have gps auto turn on when I use G-Maps or GasBuddy, then it auto turns off when I close those apps. Saves time and juice imo. Just figured I'd throw this out there.
nice app. isn't there a setting within the OS to do this, though? pretty sure there is.
either way, agreed. data usage can/will cause battery drain.
the real perp is your display, however. adjust your brightness settings, you will see significant battery improvements.
My display is set low, and all my other settings are set to be battery friendly. It's been awhile since I used the app. But after I had that setup, I noticed better life instantly. Went fishing today with the little guy, left the house with 100%. No phone usage for 2hrs, and it was still at 99%.
Can't you do this without the app tho
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If there's a way to set the phone to turn the radio off when screen is off, I'm unaware of that. I tried turning it on and off manually, but it got to be a pain turning it on and off all the time. I would end up just leaving it on. Now I don't even have to think about it, and it gets done everytime.
Sounds similar to Tasker, which is a little confusing to new users.
But as for your post, turning 3g off saves a TON of battery. I have to keep it on during the day to get emails for my job, but at night, I turn 3g off, and the phone will drop maybe 2% overnight with 3g off.
The CDMA version of the 3D has a setting in network that allows you to turn off your mobile network if the screen is off for 5+ minutes. The setting is "turn off always on mobile network". But the screens needs to be off 5 minutes before it will. This setting will not turn off wifi though.
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Lol silly kids, saving battery is for iPhones,lol, but seriously, I have 4g on all day and my battery doesn't drain any faster that it would with normal useage
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A2CKilla said:
Lol silly kids, saving battery is for iPhones,lol, but seriously, I have 4g on all day and my battery doesn't drain any faster that it would with normal useage
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Pix or it didn't happen. I have full bars with 4G and my battery drains a lot faster.
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If you wanted to save battery life without downloading anything you could just use the HTC widgets for mobile network, 4g, WiFi, and GPS. This method allows me to switch the settings on and off on the fly. I've also found that if you disable all GPS options it won't be running in the background and for apps that require it. And if I'm in one spot for a while I just use WiFi.

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