Random Brainstorm on batteries for smartphones - HTC EVO 3D

So I fell alseep on the couch and woke up to a thunderstorm at 4am in the morning . Now that I am unable to sleep a idea slams into me like an 18 wheeler . Its a known fact one of the issues surrounding smartphones this day and age is battery life or lack there of . From the earlier beginings flip phones had a battery life of several days , bare in mind these phones just did basic text and calls . But none the less end users got used to long battery life of a phone . Now to the brain storm . What if the approach manufacturers are taking is incorrect ? Every smart phone I see on the market has a battery that is inserted into the phone and then a cover or back plate is then applied . With Motorola's Razr they have proved a thin phone is possible using a battery designed similar to the iphone . Question and proposed Idea , Why not use the tech used in the razor to create a super thin phone but , make the connector to the battery similar to say a plug in and receptical but in fixed locations . What Im driving at is make the battery cover "the battery" that litterally snaps onto the phone. Yes you will increase thickness of the phone slightly but the area a normal battery cover takes should more than increase the size of the battery past the 1750mah mark quite easily . The only downside to this brainstorm is either battery backs would become generic or price of phones would skyrocket due to the battery back being different for so many phone . Anyone elses thoughts or ideas on this ?

Interesting brainstorm... My old LG EnV2 was like that and it's battery lasted a couple of days lol

you know they keep making these phones thinner and I have been saying for a while that I wished they would use the smaller technology to make room for a bigger battery .
I don't need a 3mm thick phone but a smart phone that does not require daily charging would be great .

Love the idea and Motorola is heading in the right direction , but in talking with friends with iphones, they do the same as i do....charge the phone when they go to bed and take it off when they wake up....I think the best result would be for manufacturers to work on their kernels and how the processors work instead of worrying who can put the most RAM or the fastest processor or the most features into their phone.I can agree with what you say about the old phones ,my backup phone is a Samsung ultra touch and it lasts for 3 days without a charge
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I would love more battery life, but..I don't get the people that hate to charge daily. Where the heck are you people sleeping that doesn't have electricity?!?
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SouthernEvo said:
The only downside to this brainstorm is either battery backs would become generic or price of phones would skyrocket due to the battery back being different for so many phone . Anyone elses thoughts or ideas on this ?
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This. Plus the battery would block the antenna rf and reduce surface area for placing it elsewhere. A lot of the phones shove antennas in that cover. Oddly not the 3D which could be the reason our reception is generally bad.

Rippley05 said:
I would love more battery life, but..I don't get the people that hate to charge daily. Where the heck are you people sleeping that doesn't have electricity?!?
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I want to know to not only that everyone works where they can't plug it in? And if you don't should probably be off I know construction workers kind of special when it comes to this.
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they should just update battery mhzs..thatll be much better and no bulk

zonyl said:
This. Plus the battery would block the antenna rf and reduce surface area for placing it elsewhere. A lot of the phones shove antennas in that cover. Oddly not the 3D which could be the reason our reception is generally bad.
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From a design perspective I dont think this would be an issue . Iphones place the antenna on the outter edge of the phone itself. so making the back of the phone a battery itself shouldnt interfer with the antennas in this configuration

damagethem said:
they should just update battery mhzs..thatll be much better and no bulk
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in a sence this is what the brainstorm is about . The phone itself would already be made ultra thin (example Moto Razr) the back being made of a battery would only increase the thickness of the phone by say the typical thickness of our current battery (example) . From a design and engineering standpoint I dont see why this route hasnt been taken as of yet .

ckoadiyn said:
I want to know to not only that everyone works where they can't plug it in? And if you don't should probably be off I know construction workers kind of special when it comes to this.
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I think it comes from my previous example of life with flip phones . I can relate personally when I had an EVO 4G with the 3500mah battery . To have a smartphone you never worry about plugging in is a freedom that is hard to explain . I feel the best way to put this is , remember when fuel was only 1.29 a gallon and then prices inched up alittle . People didnt like it raised hell about it but in the end people just accepted it .This cycle continued till we are at the current price of fuel 3.09-to whatever . The cycle is only reflected once again here in the smartphone world. We were used to phones that lasted days , then phones advanced , ok they last a day now we accepted that . Some cases phones dont last a day we accept that and move on . I guess what Im trying to say is we keep accepting it for what it is when there really should be no reason to accept that situation with phones .

Additional thought , Example Samsung Galaxy S 4G touch , The phone is ridiculously thin . What if the whole back of the phone was a battery(except the location of the camera etc etc) . The phone itself is a monster with its size . The surface area of the back of that phone with a battery back the thickness of say our current battery , you know it would easily be over a 2000mah battery . Phones are already progressing to being wider and bigger (to me almost on the verge or being micro tablets) they are already big in a sense . Adding two millimeters thickness to the back of it is not gonna make the phone that much thicker in relation to an already super thin phone (SGS2)

SouthernEvo said:
What Im driving at is make the battery cover "the battery" that litterally snaps onto the phone.
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Like this: http://www.phonesuit.com/iphone-battery-case-phonesuit-elite-4?gclid=COCT8NWevqwCFY2b7QodtCmunw
Friend of mine has an iPhone, the case is the battery.

Its not the size of the battery, its the technology in the battery. I wish someone would engineer a compacitor to replace the whole setup. That way we could charge up almost instantly and use our phone for hours.
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cajones42 said:
Its not the size of the battery, its the technology in the battery. I wish someone would engineer a compacitor to replace the whole setup. That way we could charge up almost instantly and use our phone for hours.
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Ive been saying it for a while now....Nothing with batteries will change until the tech behind it does...I think weve milked lithium ion for all its worth , time for a change...

I'm surprised that no one posted this in this thread, but it looks like Lithium ion batteries might be around a bit longer:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/16/researchers-increase-charging-capacity-speed-of-lithium-ion-bat/
I can't wait. 3d makes the 4g look like the battery life was great.

Fazulka said:
I'm surprised that no one posted this in this thread, but it looks like Lithium ion batteries might be around a bit longer:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/16/researchers-increase-charging-capacity-speed-of-lithium-ion-bat/
I can't wait. 3d makes the 4g look like the battery life was great.
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If it works as described(remains to be seen) then that would be a major improvement....Wonder how long it takes to go from discovery to full working consumer ready product?

Rippley05 said:
I would love more battery life, but..I don't get the people that hate to charge daily. Where the heck are you people sleeping that doesn't have electricity?!?
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Nowhere, I bought a solar charger/battery from One Sale A day for $5. LOL, works pretty well and the whole unit is only about 3/4 the size of the evo 3d battery.

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Highest mAh Battery That Fits Stock Case

Anybody came across a good one?
Also interested in this as well.
Looks like a 2100 or 2500 will fit in our phones. Problem now is finding a battery that actually has that capacity mAh in it.
oohaylima said:
Looks like a 2100 or 2500 will fit in our phones. Problem now is finding a battery that actually has that capacity mAh in it.
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Which will be very hard to do, let me know if you find anything worth mentioning and I will as well as I am currently in the same boat and am looking to purchase the highest capacity battery available for stock cover and am doing some research myself
Seido innocell 1900 mah Slim extended battery. Works like a charm however not much more batterylife then the stock battery but atleast its better in the long run
http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-Innocell-1900mAh-Extended-Battery/dp/B005C31CJ8
37 bucks
Ughh i cant find the site now, but I was searching around the other day and I saw a 2100 mah one... Dont know if is a good one but I saw it if Im not going crazy... Jeje... Will update if I find it...
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sad to say the innocell is the biggest one possible
I have a 2500mah in mine. It lasts a little bit longer than stock, but not as much as you would think..
Anker 1900, lasts much longer than stock on my phone
Barshalen said:
I have a 2500mah in mine. It lasts a little bit longer than stock, but not as much as you would think..
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Link?
Mr Paul said:
Anker 1900, lasts much longer than stock on my phone
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I have one in my 3D... It's much better than stock. U can find them cheap on ebay
+1 on the Anker 1900
http://www.amazon.com/1900mah-Batte...-purpose/dp/B005B3RFTU/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_0
Will this fit the stock battery cover?
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Here's an 1850mA for pretty cheap:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Red-1850mAh-...ccessories&hash=item3f1085d481#ht_2446wt_1101
or this one but it does not fit the stock case:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/3980-mAh-ACE...719309?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3376dfef0d
Personnelly, I spent $10 and bought 4 spare batteries and a battery charger and I just replace on the go.
Most of these batteries they sell on Ebay are overrated in the actual mah capacity they claim. There is a way to check the mah with a meter and a small load and a timer but to me its too much trouble.
Some are good some are not. You are essentially buying a pig in a poke. They are cheap, not doubt about that.
Here is a lot I bought out of china. They sold these in a lot of 10 for $39.00 with free shipping. Took about two weeks for me to get them.
So, that's about $4.00 each. They seem fine.
http://www.dhgate.com/new-li-ion-ph...r-htc/p-ff808081321fe6450132294c18783c3d.html
As long as you don't charge them, they will have a long shelf life. Once you charge them then you should use them by cycling.
I only use 2 for now, rotating them out. If you play games or watch movies, the battery drains fast. I know its a pain to pop the back off and swap em but at least you can do it.
The new EVO 4G LTE, does not come with a removable battery. Once you run it down, it has to go on the charger. One feature I don't like about it. However, I think HTC is moving in that direction on all their future phones.
I like being able to change the battery. I used to listen with headset all day at work with my phone in my shirt pocket at the factory. I would have to swap out two to three batteries a day. I had a stack of them on another HTC phone I had.
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Does anyone have an answer for my question?
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zcink said:
The new EVO 4G LTE, does not come with a removable battery. Once you run it down, it has to go on the charger. One feature I don't like about it. However, I think HTC is moving in that direction on all their future phones. .
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I really hope your wrong. Although I wouldn't doubt it. Real stupid move. I'm gonna say it might really hurt them financially. This is one of the many reasons I've stayed away from that i-crap out there. I would have been one of the first on the waiting list to get the new evo 4g from sprint. I've been following that phone a long time. No quad core and lack of being able to replace a battery, no thanks.
I like extended batteries no matter how good the stock one is. My evo 3d stock battery is way better than when I had my evo 4g with stock battery. I'm rooted and runnin swagged out with the kernel it came with. I get 1-3 days of battery life with my stock evo3 battery. Can't wait till the end of the week for my new ext battery to get here. I'm really hoping I see 2-5 days or more. Not many phones will do that. Not even those precious i-devices those sheep love.
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Does anyone have an answer for my question?
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I'm going to guess and say they will fit just fine. I have the same charger and their pic shows it being flush with the top of the chatter. Plus it doesn't come with a extended battery back cover. Factory evo 3d batteries are 1730mah and those are 1900mah. Not much difference there. Its not like its a 2500-4000mah battery.
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fredrick1213 said:
http://www.amazon.com/1900mah-Batte...-purpose/dp/B005B3RFTU/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_0
Will this fit the stock battery cover?
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Yes, I did say the Anker 1900 fits fine and is a better than stock battery
blwnv8 said:
I really hope your wrong. Although I wouldn't doubt it. Real stupid move.
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There is no being wrong about it. The phone is out. This is easy to prove.
I've played with it. The HTC rep at Radio Shack had one.
The battery life is tremendously good on the phone especially giving the size of the screen. However, like I say when its dead or almost there, it has to be on the charger. You cannot simple just swap in a fresh battery. Ain't happening on that phone. And I agree, big mistake for HTC - I reckon they're counting on the fact they've add enough bells and whistles to get you to overlook this.
I've always had an idea for a battery. Why can't they make a battery like a capacitor. Where it would charge up in like a nano second and discharge very slowly as needed on demand. That way, when you need to charge it, you'd just walk over the charger, zap it for 2 seconds and unplug it --- good to go for another few days.
Also what every happened to fuel cell powered cell phones? They told us that one fuel cell would power the phone for 20 to 30 years without ever charging. Science fiction I guess.
Even the new film type screens they're working on will require power. Even if you can get the screen as thin as a dollar bill and flexible, its still going to require a battery.

Enough with the battery

I am tired of people hating on this phone for the battery size. Why can't we wait until the phone is actually out to judge the battery? The battery is barely smaller than the S3 and really how much more battery can the extra pixels use? Sure it will not hang with the Maxx but no one else is either. Also, people please quit comparing this to the Note 2. I don't think the Note and S3 are competitors because they are different products. This aligns with the S3 not the Note 2.Yes it has a bigger screen but the width and thickness are almost the same and the height is not much different.
gbmitchell said:
I am tired of people hating on this phone for the battery size. Why can't we wait until the phone is actually out to judge the battery? The battery is barely smaller than the S3 and really how much more battery can the extra pixels use? Sure it will not hang with the Maxx but no one else is either. Also, people please quit comparing this to the Note 2. I don't think the Note and S3 are competitors because they are different products. This aligns with the S3 not the Note 2.Yes it has a bigger screen but the width and thickness are almost the same and the height is not much different.
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I couldn't agree more. From what some others have posted that have actually used it, it seems like it does pretty good on battery life.
Not to mention its posted usage time (from VZW) is roughly double that of the Rezound, which I didn't think was horrible by any means.
tehknics said:
I couldn't agree more. From what some others have posted that have actually used it, it seems like it does pretty good on battery life.
Not to mention its posted usage time (from VZW) is roughly double that of the Rezound, which I didn't think was horrible by any means.
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gbmitchell said:
I am tired of people hating on this phone for the battery size. Why can't we wait until the phone is actually out to judge the battery? The battery is barely smaller than the S3 and really how much more battery can the extra pixels use? Sure it will not hang with the Maxx but no one else is either. Also, people please quit comparing this to the Note 2. I don't think the Note and S3 are competitors because they are different products. This aligns with the S3 not the Note 2.Yes it has a bigger screen but the width and thickness are almost the same and the height is not much different.
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that is sooo true could not of said it better
I made a full day on sunday with out a charge. Unplug the phone around 7:00 and plug it back in around 8:00 with about 25% of battery life.
I agree about the battery. I'd prefer form factor rather than a huge extended battery. Plus cheap plasticky removable back covers (shot at my gs3, lol) tend to creak and moan after time and I prefer rigidity in my device.
I may be alone here, but I had a Thunderbolt, and didn't even really mind the battery life on it ( really really really really ****ty, haha). I really don't care about battery life.
PS - and the few reviews I've watched so far all say that the brightness levels are quite a bit down on it at max brightness, probably how they manage to squeeze battery life out longer. That and coupled with an extremely efficient power management system andprocessor......engineering at its finest I actually recall people making the exact same battery life predictions when we actually jumped to qHD and even 720p screens, and they were hardly effected.
I agree its not the battery but the internal storage that is the fatal flaw here. New hd games are over 2 gigs each. and those arent even at 1080P. so you can only load 4 games on your device before its full, that is amazing that a company would be so blatantly stupid as to do this. they deserve the market share they have 1% and dropping.
chakra said:
I agree its not the battery but the internal storage that is the fatal flaw here. New hd games are over 2 gigs each. and those arent even at 1080P. so you can only load 4 games on your device before its full, that is amazing that a company would be so blatantly stupid as to do this. they deserve the market share they have 1% and dropping.
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You have now posted that on several different threads, nearly word-for-word. Chill out man! As much as I agree with you about the limited storage, you are just coming off as a two-year-old throwing a fit.
mattjacobson said:
You have now posted that on several different threads, nearly word-for-word. Chill out man! As much as I agree with you about the limited storage, you are just coming off as a two-year-old throwing a fit.
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ya thanks I am hoping that HTC will be checking these forums and maybe get their head out of their a** and do the right thing for their company.
Using the business model that killed Nokia's business and ignoring the new sucsesfull model that apple and samsung are using is a very bad move. Maybe just maybe they can figure it out and become the success I know that they could be. or maybe thats just wishful thinking on my part, but thanks
chakra said:
ya thanks I am hoping that HTC will be checking these forums and maybe get their head out of their a** and do the right thing for their company.
Using the business model that killed Nokia's business and ignoring the new sucsesfull model that apple and samsung are using is a very bad move. Maybe just maybe they can figure it out and become the success I know that they could be. or maybe thats just wishful thinking on my part, but thanks
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Apple sells a poop ton of phones. They do not have storage expansion. Their best seller is their 16 gb model. HTC specs devices based on what Verizon wants. Google has also ditched expansion on the Nexus line.
There are reasons this is going on. Would I prefer 32 or 64, sure but it is not as easy as, oh let's put more storage in.
chakra said:
ya thanks I am hoping that HTC will be checking these forums and maybe get their head out of their a** and do the right thing for their company.
Using the business model that killed Nokia's business and ignoring the new sucsesfull model that apple and samsung are using is a very bad move. Maybe just maybe they can figure it out and become the success I know that they could be. or maybe thats just wishful thinking on my part, but thanks
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Vote with your wallet then. Multiple posts of almost exactly the same complaint word for word by a single user, before the device even comes out, when the device is already being on the manufacturing line, does not mean a thing to even a forum user working for HTC genuinely interested in feedback. It's just whining and tantrum throwing at that point.
Look, I load tons of music and podcasts onto my incredible 2, using a 64gb mini SD to compensate. I'm still going to get this phone, because I'm realizing that I regularly clean out my **** even when I don't need to or probably never need to. I'll complain about storage space and cloud storage when I get into that problem, but I have never had that issue and have never gone beyond a net 5-7gb on my phone. It doesn't take any effort to press the delete button to remove old podcasts I don't listen back to, or switch out music to the playlist I want, from either the cloud or by local transfer.
Your argument that a single, specific game being 2gb means that a phone with four games would be full, with no room for photos, videos, music, etc. Is facetious. I understand that concern, but if you word it in such a way that you are illustrating an unrealistic scenario it masks your actual, genuine concern and probably annoys readers more than it informs them. It's fear mongering.
Edit: regarding the battery: this is what happens when people half heartedly gain knowledge of something. It's like the megapixel race. They look at the number and claim that bigger is better without understanding how the technology as a whole works and interacts.
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Having been running this phone for about 2 days now, I can tell you the battery is just fine and will last you well into the night.
I do not have specific numbers to post, as I am not a battery fiend, but I was at the press conference yesterday and looked at the phones being used to demo the screen. These phones had been on battery, showing HD video for 2-3 hours and were between 90 and 95% still.
That should tell you the batter is just fine.
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dsb9938 said:
Having been running this phone for about 2 days now, I can tell you the battery is just fine and will last you well into the night.
I do not have specific numbers to post, as I am not a battery fiend, but I was at the press conference yesterday and looked at the phones being used to demo the screen. These phones had been on battery, showing HD video for 2-3 hours and were between 90 and 95% still.
That should tell you the batter is just fine.
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these phone has charging connected in show.
The phone can show HD video for 2 hours and battery can keep 90% still probably after 10 years maybe possible.
Battery phone give a few and I'll tell you all about it.
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NorthlandAZ said:
Battery phone give a few and I'll tell you all about it.
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Ok what I did was, I turn on keep on always first. I started with Pandora for a few hours and then start a movie from Google Cloud in HD. After the movie I went to the store and one of my kids plug the phone into the charger as you can see for about 10 to 15 mins (sorry about that). I returned and started to play some music from Google cloud again for about an hour. I then moved on to Netflix for a movie. No WiFi, screen on full time and streaming music and videos. Yeah I like the battery, not sure how much data I just ate up!!!!!! But it was a fun test for you all.
Sorry forgot about this part. I was asked around noon to start the test thats why you see wifi on from 7 or 8am to noon So when I started I had around 83% of battery.
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Having been running this phone for about 2 days now, I can tell you the battery is just fine and will last you well into the night.
I do not have specific numbers to post, as I am not a battery fiend, but I was at the press conference yesterday and looked at the phones being used to demo the screen. These phones had been on battery, showing HD video for 2-3 hours and were between 90 and 95% still.
That should tell you the batter is just fine.
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There's no way this phone (or any phone) can do that. This phone's onscreen time is only about 3 hours I've heard - there's no way it's 20-60 hours. It really is too bad that they didn't release (or at least announce) a maxx like version with more rom and battery that costs $100 more. That shouldn't be complicated to do and I think the Razr Maxx has proven it's worthwhile. Battery life wise I'd want to know how it does while running an intense app before buying one of these, because in a year there may be apps that push all 4 cores.
No need to have a tantrum since we don't have many experiences yet. Also, this is an Android not THE iphone. We do have choices, remember? If battery life bothers someone so much, get the Maxx HD (or the Note2 if it isn't too big for them).
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Battery phone give a few and I'll tell you all about it.
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If this is right, I'm seeing about 3 hours of cumulative Screen On Time. And you still had 30% left.
that's better that my GN LTE which gets 1 hr screen on time with 40% left.
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these phone has charging connected in show.
The phone can show HD video for 2 hours and battery can keep 90% still probably after 10 years maybe possible.
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No, they did not. Which was the whole damned point.
Did you post that just to be rude?
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flaring afro said:
There's no way this phone (or any phone) can do that. This phone's onscreen time is only about 3 hours I've heard - there's no way it's 20-60 hours. It really is too bad that they didn't release (or at least announce) a maxx like version with more rom and battery that costs $100 more. That shouldn't be complicated to do and I think the Razr Maxx has proven it's worthwhile. Battery life wise I'd want to know how it does while running an intense app before buying one of these, because in a year there may be apps that push all 4 cores.
No need to have a tantrum since we don't have many experiences yet. Also, this is an Android not THE iphone. We do have choices, remember? If battery life bothers someone so much, get the Maxx HD (or the Note2 if it isn't too big for them).
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Tantrum? Dunno where yo got that. I was simply posting what I saw.
As for whether or not you believe it, that's up to you.
But I can tell you, after having an Incredible, a Thunderbolt, a Rezound, and now this. The battery is the most impressive part to me.
I have never had an HTC phone last so long.
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No, they did not. Which was the whole damned point.
Did you post that just to be rude?
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I post because you give wrong info.
No phone in this world can play video for 2 hours only drop 5~10% battery. Wrong info will cause unexperienced peole take wrong purchase decision.
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Tantrum? Dunno where yo got that. I was simply posting what I saw.
As for whether or not you believe it, that's up to you.
But I can tell you, after having an Incredible, a Thunderbolt, a Rezound, and now this. The battery is the most impressive part to me.
I have never had an HTC phone last so long.
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I wish more people would be open to this thought, especially coming from someone like yourself, not to mention your first hand experience. It seems that just because it's a certain # of mAh that it is automatically no good. :screwy:
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Droid DNA Case w/ Built in Charging?

Does such a thing exist? The battery life on the DNA is killing me, I am considering trading this back to VZW for the Galaxy S3 since I'm still in my 14 day trial.
Basically I'm looking for a case that you "charge" and doubles as a case and a charger, once the charge on the case runs out, it goes back to the battery.
EchoX860 said:
Does such a thing exist? The battery life on the DNA is killing me, I am considering trading this back to VZW for the Galaxy S3 since I'm still in my 14 day trial.
Basically I'm looking for a case that you "charge" and doubles as a case and a charger, once the charge on the case runs out, it goes back to the battery.
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Sounds like you have a faulty device. My battery life has been nothing but excellent compared to my Galaxy Nexus. Also, the SGS III is going to get about the same battery life as the DNA.
Download the GSAM Battery app and see what is eating up your battery.
I would also love to find something like this case here http://www.mophie.com/mophie-juice-pack-PRO-iPhone-4-battery-case-p/2175_jppro-ip4-org.htm. I am coming from the Rezound myself where I always had 3 Extended batteries with me in case I killed the battery. I do think the DNA gets alot better batery life then the Rezound, however I still have to charge it 3 or 4 times in a day. I would love it if there was a case like this build for the DNA.
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I would also love to find something like this case here http://www.mophie.com/mophie-juice-pack-PRO-iPhone-4-battery-case-p/2175_jppro-ip4-org.htm. I am coming from the Rezound myself where I always had 3 Extended batteries with me in case I killed the battery. I do think the DNA gets alot better batery life then the Rezound, however I still have to charge it 3 or 4 times in a day. I would love it if there was a case like this build for the DNA.
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3-4 times a day? May I ask what you're doing that requires that? I can push 13-15 hours off the charger with 5-6 hours of screen time on.
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I would also love to find something like this case here http://www.mophie.com/mophie-juice-pack-PRO-iPhone-4-battery-case-p/2175_jppro-ip4-org.htm. I am coming from the Rezound myself where I always had 3 Extended batteries with me in case I killed the battery. I do think the DNA gets alot better batery life then the Rezound, however I still have to charge it 3 or 4 times in a day. I would love it if there was a case like this build for the DNA.
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Somethings wrong with your phone if you have to charge it 4 times in a day. There aren't enough hours in a day for that to be necessary. Even if you don't sleep and never put your phone down.
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I don't need to charge my phone that often, its just I never like the idea of having by battery below 50% just in case I need to go somewhere spur of the moment where I may not be able to charge my phone either of a wall charger or car charger. I also love to play various games on my phone a lot throughout the day to waste time, play a lot YouTube for my kids, I stream all of my music since there is a huge lack of storage on this device & also have to rely on Dropbox for all of my pictures and videos. I know that I could probably get away with letting my phone go down to around 15% or so and then charging it fully and then go on about my day from there, however I just never know when I may have to leave.
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I also would like to find a battery case for the HTC DNA similar to PowerSkins Battery Cases. Not because the battery is horrible on the HTC DNA but because I want to put my mind at ease for when I don't have my charger because I'm in a different car and I need to navigate to a place I've never been or something else that takes a lot of power. People see me as a computer geek and as so expect me to be able to whatever on my phone at a moments notice. Which sucks when we are at a checkout and need to use someone elses number for a pin and my battery is dead.
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I also would like to find a battery case for the HTC DNA similar to PowerSkins Battery Cases. Not because the battery is horrible on the HTC DNA but because I want to put my mind at ease for when I don't have my charger because I'm in a different car and I need to navigate to a place I've never been or something else that takes a lot of power. People see me as a computer geek and as so expect me to be able to whatever on my phone at a moments notice. Which sucks when we are at a checkout and need to use someone elses number for a pin and my battery is dead.
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Why don't you just get a small external battery pack?
This is another reason I want something like this. I always hate tje fact that there are all kinds of accessories like this for the darn iPhone, however there using anything close for android.
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I don't need to charge my phone that often, its just I never like the idea of having by battery below 50% just in case I need to go somewhere spur of the moment where I may not be able to charge my phone either of a wall charger or car charger. I also love to play various games on my phone a lot throughout the day to waste time, play a lot YouTube for my kids, I stream all of my music since there is a huge lack of storage on this device & also have to rely on Dropbox for all of my pictures and videos. I know that I could probably get away with letting my phone go down to around 15% or so and then charging it fully and then go on about my day from there, however I just never know when I may have to leave.
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I don't believe this is the typical way to guage a battery's life span. Basically what you are saying is that you would need to charge your battery from empty twice a day. Given the amount of use put on your phone that is extremely good. That's about 10 hours of screen on time and there are very few phones that come close to that. The note2 being the one exception I can think of off the top of my head. It's not a problem with your phone it's a symptom of how you use it.
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Why don't you just get a small external battery pack?
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I've been thinking of getting the PowerSkin PoP'n though I just found out about it today. I might spring for it if I have a serious issue. It would triple the size of my phone when in use.
Lol damn u need to lay off the porn man..lol but seriously I can got 20hrs off my phone from lite to moderate use.r u on a custom Rom? If so try battery calibration
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KyJelly69 said:
I don't believe this is the typical way to guage a battery's life span. Basically what you are saying is that you would need to charge your battery from empty twice a day. Given the amount of use put on your phone that is extremely good. That's about 10 hours of screen on time and there are very few phones that come close to that. The note2 being the one exception I can think of off the top of my head. It's not a problem with your phone it's a symptom of how you use it.
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Don't get me wrong here, I am not trying to talk down the battery performane of the DNA. I am just rough on my phones and have always been. I don' ever remember getting a full day use out of a smart phone except for when I used the EVO 3D with a Seidio 4,000 MAh extended battery. I have always been the kind of person that doesnt feel like I should limit use or features on my device just to conserve battery drain, I do know that this is all my choice and I have to deal with it. I am just looking for a good battery case or an external battery pack like this one http://www.amazon.com/13000mAh-External-Portable-Blackberry-Motorola/dp/B008AQLHFI.
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Does such a thing exist? The battery life on the DNA is killing me, I am considering trading this back to VZW for the Galaxy S3 since I'm still in my 14 day trial.
Basically I'm looking for a case that you "charge" and doubles as a case and a charger, once the charge on the case runs out, it goes back to the battery.
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Ironic, my DNA gets a few more hours of battery than my S3 does. Just to warn you so you don't start this same thread in the S3 forum....
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I've also been wondering about who made some nice mophie style juicepack cases. I loved them on my iphone, I barely used it, but when I needed it certain days it was really nice to have. I'll be getting my girlfriend a DNA, and I know it's something she's been wanting also since our late poodle (RIP lil Oscar) at the top half of the one for her iphone.
I actually get about 12 hours of hard usage, with very light I've seen 30. I haven't seen better battery life on anything I've owned.
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If u barely touch ya phone I'm sure ull get that battery life. In those 12 to 30 hour days what's your screen on time? If it's a hour or 2 then all that mean is the phone is good at not draining while idol which means nothing to me.
Daswolven said:
I actually get about 12 hours of hard usage, with very light I've seen 30. I haven't seen better battery life on anything I've owned.
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Sooooo does anybody have a lead on a charging case?
I don't think it exists for this phone closest thing your going to get is a portable battery bank which can be plugged into the device to charge it but that's about it.
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If u barely touch ya phone I'm sure ull get that battery life. In those 12 to 30 hour days what's your screen on time? If it's a hour or 2 then all that mean is the phone is good at not draining while idol which means nothing to me.
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I get an average of 3-4 hours screen on time per charge and that's usually stretched over 12-15 hours...
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Attention for every fellow xdaian with battery problem in LG L9

Attention for battery issuses...
Recently my phone started acting weird...like my battery charging to full in more than 4 and a half hours...discharging quickly then in 6 hours...or sometimes i noticed my battery percentage struck at a level(example at 95%) and the charge not going up from 95% even after connecting charger for more than a hour..
What happened. .
Since i am a 4 year old Lg mobile customer(started with THE VERY FIRST OPTIMUS-GT540) i knew the service centre executives very well..when i decided to pay em a visit and explained my problem...they checked my battery,charger,and its cable. After that they took my phone and told me that IT WAS NOT BATTERY PROBLEM...RATHER THAN THE CHARGE PORT PROBLEM. .
EVERY L9 OWNER CAN CHECK IT...
there is a major design defect in every L9.as you can see, .the charge pin is placed way past (inside the phone ) from the actual charging pin hole in L9 body...which is rare considering in every phone the charging pin is placed right next to outermost part of hole created in the phones body...
OKAY...BUT WHATS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT. ..
the problem is ..since i/o port or charging port is way inside...so it is eventually going to get screwed faster by multiple insertion of charging cable into it(for charging your phone Lol) that means its a major defect and because of this design flaw...your charging pin is going to become wreck very sooner as compared to other mobile devices(depends upon your usage too...mine got f##kd in 4 months due to heavy usage). So if you are experiencing any problems related to battery like i did...dont blame the poor lithium ion fellow...instead get your port replaced...
#Note..ive been given an appointment of wednesday to change it for free..(in warranty) normally it costs around $15 in India.
#May your phone remain intact as long as it belongs to you...
Tmobile has no idea what about any port defect, neither did the LG rep I talked to.
this is total b.s.
No bs! My old LG (P970) already had the.same problem. Many devices had broken USB ports, but of course it either takes a lot time, or a rough/intense usage, to break that thing.
Just my 2 cents.
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N00BY0815 said:
No bs! My old LG (P970) already had the.same problem. Many devices had broken USB ports, but of course it either takes a lot time, or a rough/intense usage, to break that thing.
Just my 2 cents.
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Can the port be replaced for a reasonable fee or the phone is dead if that occurs?
people break their ports because they treat them poorly. to say the l9 has a major design flaw is laughable. sure there are problems with individual handsets but to make users think their bad battery life is a result of the port being a design flaw and just to get it replaced is foolish. usually when i see port problems at work it's because the people are idiots and damage it themselves or dump liquid on it, get stuff jammed in there. i feel like the l9 is well above average in this regard, in fact at least on my handset the port feels better than most devices i've had my hands on. treat your things well and they will work like they should.
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people break their ports because they treat them poorly. to say the l9 has a major design flaw is laughable. sure there are problems with individual handsets but to make users think their bad battery life is a result of the port being a design flaw and just to get it replaced is foolish. usually when i see port problems at work it's because the people are idiots and damage it themselves or dump liquid on it, get stuff jammed in there. i feel like the l9 is well above average in this regard, in fact at least on my handset the port feels better than most devices i've had my hands on. treat your things well and they will work like they should.
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I see your point, but I feel differently. Yes there are lots of idiots, who damage their ports, but I think it is a design flaw concerning all micro USB ports in general.
My port e.g doesnt seem to be straight. Sometimes i gotta fiddle a little, till I get the cable in. Did you ever try to get the cable in, when it was dark? It s pretty sure, you ll try it the wrong way around.
Iphone port is a perfect example, of what it should look and be like.
Oh and battery drain probably really has got nothing to do with it.
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Tmobile has no idea what about any port defect, neither did the LG rep I talked to.
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port is not defective...but the way it is placed inside the phone body makes its wear and tear a lot to happen than other phones...its not a company agreed defect..but the port gets ripped off a lot faster due to its deep placing..that's all.
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this is total b.s.
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suit yourself. .i dont want any money or a single like..(dont care...even my signature says so...)
kirakun said:
Can the port be replaced for a reasonable fee or the phone is dead if that occurs?
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if under warranty it should be placed without charging a single dollar...at least in india it happens that way..
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people break their ports because they treat them poorly. to say the l9 has a major design flaw is laughable. sure there are problems with individual handsets but to make users think their bad battery life is a result of the port being a design flaw and just to get it replaced is foolish. usually when i see port problems at work it's because the people are idiots and damage it themselves or dump liquid on it, get stuff jammed in there. i feel like the l9 is well above average in this regard, in fact at least on my handset the port feels better than most devices i've had my hands on. treat your things well and they will work like they should.
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please read carefully...i said if your charge gets stuck at a level example 95% even if u connected charger for a while or your phone disconnects/reconnects from charge when given a little tap...then its a i/o port defect..if this defect persists in your phone...then your BATTERY wont be charged in less than 3 hours..and will give erratic battery life response. .rest known...every machine performs different to its master.i hope u understand
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please read carefully...i said if your charge gets stuck at a level example 95% even if u connected charger for a while or your phone disconnects/reconnects from charge when given a little tap...then its a i/o port defect..if this defect persists in your phone...then your BATTERY wont be charged in less than 3 hours..and will give erratic battery life response. .rest known...every machine performs different to its master.i hope u understand
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I'm still trying to figure out how the recessed port causes battery life to suffer?
My port isn't broken, charges fine, but battery life was cut by 3/4 seemingly overnight.
eSZee said:
I'm still trying to figure out how the recessed port causes battery life to suffer?
My port isn't broken, charges fine, but battery life was cut by 3/4 seemingly overnight.
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Maybe something like a shortcut? Which causes to drain the battery faster?
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I'm still trying to figure out how the recessed port causes battery life to suffer?
My port isn't broken, charges fine, but battery life was cut by 3/4 seemingly overnight.
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visit your service centre..get ur BATTERY replaced for free,,,ive changed my battery 2 times in 4 months. .without paying a single dime...and again goin to get a new one for free...
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visit your service centre..get ur BATTERY replaced for free,,,ive changed my battery 2 times in 4 months. .without paying a single dime...and again goin to get a new one for free...
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It's not the battery. I have 3 currently and all drain incredibly quickly.
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visit your service centre..get ur BATTERY replaced for free,,,ive changed my battery 2 times in 4 months. .without paying a single dime...and again goin to get a new one for free...
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Why do you need to replace the battery so often? An average L9 battery lasts 1 day easily on CM and 1.5/2 days on stock.
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Why do you need to replace the battery so often? An average L9 battery lasts 1 day easily on CM and 1.5/2 days on stock.
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if u can get a brand new battery for free..wont you be going for it irrespective of the fact that ur battery is a month old,,,
and 1.5/2 days on stock...? i guess youre talking bout using phone in airplane mode and listening music in headphones only...mine lasts around 6 hours max...at 2g net and video watching..
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if u can get a brand new battery for free..wont you be going for it irrespective of the fact that ur battery is a month old,,,
and 1.5/2 days on stock...? i guess youre talking bout using phone in airplane mode and listening music in headphones only...mine lasts around 6 hours max...at 2g net and video watching..
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Nope. Mine lasts for 15-16hours on 3G with 30minutes of gaming, 1hour music.. and 4.5hr screen on total.
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Nope. Mine lasts for 15-16hours on 3G with 30minutes of gaming, 1hour music.. and 4.5hr screen on total.
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how do you do that..? please elaborate...
you have to actually TEST the battery to see if it's good. i work with Cadex 7400ER.. google it. its a commercial analyzer. People get rid of good batteries all the time. I have a box at work with good smartphone batteries.. most samsung. I took a good hard look at my device and i couldnt find anything to support your statement devil, sorry. I get days on my battery.. on 10g, 20d, and CM 10.1 and 10.2. Sometimes had to get some wakelocks under control but no big deal after that. The phone model i've seen the most port problems on is the Samsung Galaxy S 2 Epic 4g Sprint. love you guys.

battery case

Do battery cases exist in the nexus 6 world?
I've searched a lot and couldn't find any.
I've really had it with the battery life of this phone, a battery case would save me from going back a 6 plus.
Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
joshm.1219 said:
Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
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Thats in the eye of the beholder
Battery life when you use the phone is pretty bad IMO. It drops pretty fast once it gets below 50%. I highly doubt mods and tweeks will get you the battery life of the 6+, maybe closer to the note 4
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Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
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LOL @ nexus 6 as a Ferrari and the 6+ Hyundai. Get off your high horse sir.
I've been to the battery life thread in general. You're talking like there's some magic fix to make this phone match the 6+'s battery life, there isn't. I'm a very heavy user and I accept this phone's battery is average at best, that's why I was looking for a battery case.
LordGrahf said:
LOL @ nexus 6 as a Ferrari and the 6+ Hyundai. Get off your high horse sir.
I've been to the battery life thread in general. You're talking like there's some magic fix to make this phone match the 6+'s battery life, there isn't. I'm a very heavy user and I accept this phone's battery is average at best, that's why I was looking for a battery case.
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Lol stfu with the high horse stuff, you know you're trolling hard when you bring up an iPhone as your only other option on an Android development forum. As for the battery life, do a little research and educate yourself on how to manage efficiency, you can easily get more battery life than the typical 6+
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Lol stfu with the high horse stuff, you know you're trolling hard when you bring up an iPhone as your only other option on an Android development forum. As for the battery life, do a little research and educate yourself on how to manage efficiency, you can easily get more battery life than the typical 6+
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So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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Nah I'm still calm but I guess it is on me for feeding you trolls. That thread has a bunch of people with great battery life as well because they know how google works. As I said, you should try reading it.
PunishedSnake said:
Thats in the eye of the beholder
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Or the beer holder...
LordGrahf said:
So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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if you think battery life is bad with this device, then i dont recommend trying a LG G3 or LG G Flex 2, they have horrible battery life, like maybe 2 hours screen on time if your lucky. the G2 had the best IMO. so coming to the Nexus 6 was a pleasant surprise when i get around 4-5 hours of SOT
I'm pretty content with that battery life. Google made changes in 5.1 kernel to improve it some more by turning off a Qualcomm "feature" and just having the 4 cores on all the time. My wife has the 6+ with a mophie case. I personally don't see much difference in battery life between the 2 phones. We both come home from work with about the same amount of battery left. Mine is a little less when I have yo go to a part of the hospital that gets poor reception. I've never thought to myself. OMG I need to bring my cable to work. Just the other day I forgot to charge my phone over night and had 43% left. Plugged it into a 2.1 amp charger while I got ready for work. Hooked it up to my turbo charger in the car and voila. 90% by the time I made it to work 30 minutes later.
I get that the battery life can be piss poor. I haven't done any "optimizations". You can try rooting and installing Franco kernel or some other kernel if you want to give it a shot though. I feel like battery cases are for those worried about battery life while going camping or something. I would just turn on power save mode at that point.
Uhhh really want a battery case, and please don't tell me I don't need it, its my personal opinion.
Same here. I need a battery case, badly. Will get tomorrow a Nexus 6, atm using Note 3 with Zerolemon 10,000mAh battery. I guess I have to build my own, where are those 3D printers...
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Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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I just ordered a Anker 10,000mAh external battery and I will glue it to the phone protective cover. Let's see how it will work, the battery is smaller than the phone so it will only add some thickness and of course, weight.
traffas said:
Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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Sounds like you should stick to phones with a removable battery. Why would you get a phone with a 3220mah embedded battery when the ZL on your G3 wasn't enough? Even if a company did come out with a battery case, which isn't happening, it would never be anywhere near as big as that.
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Sounds like you should stick to phones with a removable battery. Why would you get a phone with a 3220mah embedded battery when the ZL on your G3 wasn't enough? Even if a company did come out with a battery case, which isn't happening, it would never be anywhere near as big as that.
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As someone who is eagerly waiting battery case I agree, if a G3 battery with ZL extended case is not sufficient neither will a battery case. Battery cases charge significantly slower than charging them through the wall. I had one for my m8 and Nexus 5.
md1008 said:
As someone who is eagerly waiting battery case I agree, if a G3 battery with ZL extended case is not sufficient neither will a battery case. Battery cases charge significantly slower than charging them through the wall. I had one for my m8 and Nexus 5.
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Not to mention you lose 30% of the capacity of the case just through the inefficiencies of USB charging. So he would need a ~7500mah battery case to really have a comparable capacity overall. Which has never been made before for any phone with an embedded battery AFAIK.
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Not to mention you lose 30% of the capacity of the case just through the inefficiencies of USB charging. So he would need a ~7500mah battery case to really have a comparable capacity overall. Which has never been made before for any phone with an embedded battery AFAIK.
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He said that he gets crap service, which does impact battery life. Perhaps looking into another carrier. Verizon and At&t tend to have better coverage. If the price is a deterrent then he should look into an MNVO and probably stick with the g3
I don't understand how people aren't able to get through a day on a single charge (unplugging around 8am) when I'm able to do it with ease working 8-10hrs while my phone is constantly searching and jumping between no signal and poor 3g/LTE. Having Wi-Fi helps but I'm able to get through the day without it while at work. It was no different with the Note 2, original Moto X, and G3 over the past 2 years.
If you're on the fringe of service areas, perhaps consider a range extender? If you get poor reception where you spend most of your time on a daily basis, perhaps consider a different carrier? It's unfair to complain about battery life because all phones will suffer if you're usually in areas where your carrier doesn't provide good coverage. Other than that, consider a different phone that better suits your needs (i.e. removable batteries) as suggested above or invest in a portable charger. I rarely ever need to use my portable charger but I always have it with me. With larger capacities in slimmer form factors at lower prices, there really is no excuse for a power user to not have one.

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