Attention for battery issuses...
Recently my phone started acting weird...like my battery charging to full in more than 4 and a half hours...discharging quickly then in 6 hours...or sometimes i noticed my battery percentage struck at a level(example at 95%) and the charge not going up from 95% even after connecting charger for more than a hour..
What happened. .
Since i am a 4 year old Lg mobile customer(started with THE VERY FIRST OPTIMUS-GT540) i knew the service centre executives very well..when i decided to pay em a visit and explained my problem...they checked my battery,charger,and its cable. After that they took my phone and told me that IT WAS NOT BATTERY PROBLEM...RATHER THAN THE CHARGE PORT PROBLEM. .
EVERY L9 OWNER CAN CHECK IT...
there is a major design defect in every L9.as you can see, .the charge pin is placed way past (inside the phone ) from the actual charging pin hole in L9 body...which is rare considering in every phone the charging pin is placed right next to outermost part of hole created in the phones body...
OKAY...BUT WHATS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT. ..
the problem is ..since i/o port or charging port is way inside...so it is eventually going to get screwed faster by multiple insertion of charging cable into it(for charging your phone Lol) that means its a major defect and because of this design flaw...your charging pin is going to become wreck very sooner as compared to other mobile devices(depends upon your usage too...mine got f##kd in 4 months due to heavy usage). So if you are experiencing any problems related to battery like i did...dont blame the poor lithium ion fellow...instead get your port replaced...
#Note..ive been given an appointment of wednesday to change it for free..(in warranty) normally it costs around $15 in India.
#May your phone remain intact as long as it belongs to you...
Tmobile has no idea what about any port defect, neither did the LG rep I talked to.
this is total b.s.
No bs! My old LG (P970) already had the.same problem. Many devices had broken USB ports, but of course it either takes a lot time, or a rough/intense usage, to break that thing.
Just my 2 cents.
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N00BY0815 said:
No bs! My old LG (P970) already had the.same problem. Many devices had broken USB ports, but of course it either takes a lot time, or a rough/intense usage, to break that thing.
Just my 2 cents.
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Can the port be replaced for a reasonable fee or the phone is dead if that occurs?
people break their ports because they treat them poorly. to say the l9 has a major design flaw is laughable. sure there are problems with individual handsets but to make users think their bad battery life is a result of the port being a design flaw and just to get it replaced is foolish. usually when i see port problems at work it's because the people are idiots and damage it themselves or dump liquid on it, get stuff jammed in there. i feel like the l9 is well above average in this regard, in fact at least on my handset the port feels better than most devices i've had my hands on. treat your things well and they will work like they should.
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people break their ports because they treat them poorly. to say the l9 has a major design flaw is laughable. sure there are problems with individual handsets but to make users think their bad battery life is a result of the port being a design flaw and just to get it replaced is foolish. usually when i see port problems at work it's because the people are idiots and damage it themselves or dump liquid on it, get stuff jammed in there. i feel like the l9 is well above average in this regard, in fact at least on my handset the port feels better than most devices i've had my hands on. treat your things well and they will work like they should.
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I see your point, but I feel differently. Yes there are lots of idiots, who damage their ports, but I think it is a design flaw concerning all micro USB ports in general.
My port e.g doesnt seem to be straight. Sometimes i gotta fiddle a little, till I get the cable in. Did you ever try to get the cable in, when it was dark? It s pretty sure, you ll try it the wrong way around.
Iphone port is a perfect example, of what it should look and be like.
Oh and battery drain probably really has got nothing to do with it.
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Tmobile has no idea what about any port defect, neither did the LG rep I talked to.
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port is not defective...but the way it is placed inside the phone body makes its wear and tear a lot to happen than other phones...its not a company agreed defect..but the port gets ripped off a lot faster due to its deep placing..that's all.
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this is total b.s.
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suit yourself. .i dont want any money or a single like..(dont care...even my signature says so...)
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Can the port be replaced for a reasonable fee or the phone is dead if that occurs?
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if under warranty it should be placed without charging a single dollar...at least in india it happens that way..
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people break their ports because they treat them poorly. to say the l9 has a major design flaw is laughable. sure there are problems with individual handsets but to make users think their bad battery life is a result of the port being a design flaw and just to get it replaced is foolish. usually when i see port problems at work it's because the people are idiots and damage it themselves or dump liquid on it, get stuff jammed in there. i feel like the l9 is well above average in this regard, in fact at least on my handset the port feels better than most devices i've had my hands on. treat your things well and they will work like they should.
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please read carefully...i said if your charge gets stuck at a level example 95% even if u connected charger for a while or your phone disconnects/reconnects from charge when given a little tap...then its a i/o port defect..if this defect persists in your phone...then your BATTERY wont be charged in less than 3 hours..and will give erratic battery life response. .rest known...every machine performs different to its master.i hope u understand
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please read carefully...i said if your charge gets stuck at a level example 95% even if u connected charger for a while or your phone disconnects/reconnects from charge when given a little tap...then its a i/o port defect..if this defect persists in your phone...then your BATTERY wont be charged in less than 3 hours..and will give erratic battery life response. .rest known...every machine performs different to its master.i hope u understand
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I'm still trying to figure out how the recessed port causes battery life to suffer?
My port isn't broken, charges fine, but battery life was cut by 3/4 seemingly overnight.
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I'm still trying to figure out how the recessed port causes battery life to suffer?
My port isn't broken, charges fine, but battery life was cut by 3/4 seemingly overnight.
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Maybe something like a shortcut? Which causes to drain the battery faster?
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I'm still trying to figure out how the recessed port causes battery life to suffer?
My port isn't broken, charges fine, but battery life was cut by 3/4 seemingly overnight.
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visit your service centre..get ur BATTERY replaced for free,,,ive changed my battery 2 times in 4 months. .without paying a single dime...and again goin to get a new one for free...
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visit your service centre..get ur BATTERY replaced for free,,,ive changed my battery 2 times in 4 months. .without paying a single dime...and again goin to get a new one for free...
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It's not the battery. I have 3 currently and all drain incredibly quickly.
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visit your service centre..get ur BATTERY replaced for free,,,ive changed my battery 2 times in 4 months. .without paying a single dime...and again goin to get a new one for free...
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Why do you need to replace the battery so often? An average L9 battery lasts 1 day easily on CM and 1.5/2 days on stock.
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Why do you need to replace the battery so often? An average L9 battery lasts 1 day easily on CM and 1.5/2 days on stock.
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if u can get a brand new battery for free..wont you be going for it irrespective of the fact that ur battery is a month old,,,
and 1.5/2 days on stock...? i guess youre talking bout using phone in airplane mode and listening music in headphones only...mine lasts around 6 hours max...at 2g net and video watching..
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if u can get a brand new battery for free..wont you be going for it irrespective of the fact that ur battery is a month old,,,
and 1.5/2 days on stock...? i guess youre talking bout using phone in airplane mode and listening music in headphones only...mine lasts around 6 hours max...at 2g net and video watching..
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Nope. Mine lasts for 15-16hours on 3G with 30minutes of gaming, 1hour music.. and 4.5hr screen on total.
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Nope. Mine lasts for 15-16hours on 3G with 30minutes of gaming, 1hour music.. and 4.5hr screen on total.
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how do you do that..? please elaborate...
you have to actually TEST the battery to see if it's good. i work with Cadex 7400ER.. google it. its a commercial analyzer. People get rid of good batteries all the time. I have a box at work with good smartphone batteries.. most samsung. I took a good hard look at my device and i couldnt find anything to support your statement devil, sorry. I get days on my battery.. on 10g, 20d, and CM 10.1 and 10.2. Sometimes had to get some wakelocks under control but no big deal after that. The phone model i've seen the most port problems on is the Samsung Galaxy S 2 Epic 4g Sprint. love you guys.
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So I fell alseep on the couch and woke up to a thunderstorm at 4am in the morning . Now that I am unable to sleep a idea slams into me like an 18 wheeler . Its a known fact one of the issues surrounding smartphones this day and age is battery life or lack there of . From the earlier beginings flip phones had a battery life of several days , bare in mind these phones just did basic text and calls . But none the less end users got used to long battery life of a phone . Now to the brain storm . What if the approach manufacturers are taking is incorrect ? Every smart phone I see on the market has a battery that is inserted into the phone and then a cover or back plate is then applied . With Motorola's Razr they have proved a thin phone is possible using a battery designed similar to the iphone . Question and proposed Idea , Why not use the tech used in the razor to create a super thin phone but , make the connector to the battery similar to say a plug in and receptical but in fixed locations . What Im driving at is make the battery cover "the battery" that litterally snaps onto the phone. Yes you will increase thickness of the phone slightly but the area a normal battery cover takes should more than increase the size of the battery past the 1750mah mark quite easily . The only downside to this brainstorm is either battery backs would become generic or price of phones would skyrocket due to the battery back being different for so many phone . Anyone elses thoughts or ideas on this ?
Interesting brainstorm... My old LG EnV2 was like that and it's battery lasted a couple of days lol
you know they keep making these phones thinner and I have been saying for a while that I wished they would use the smaller technology to make room for a bigger battery .
I don't need a 3mm thick phone but a smart phone that does not require daily charging would be great .
Love the idea and Motorola is heading in the right direction , but in talking with friends with iphones, they do the same as i do....charge the phone when they go to bed and take it off when they wake up....I think the best result would be for manufacturers to work on their kernels and how the processors work instead of worrying who can put the most RAM or the fastest processor or the most features into their phone.I can agree with what you say about the old phones ,my backup phone is a Samsung ultra touch and it lasts for 3 days without a charge
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I would love more battery life, but..I don't get the people that hate to charge daily. Where the heck are you people sleeping that doesn't have electricity?!?
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The only downside to this brainstorm is either battery backs would become generic or price of phones would skyrocket due to the battery back being different for so many phone . Anyone elses thoughts or ideas on this ?
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This. Plus the battery would block the antenna rf and reduce surface area for placing it elsewhere. A lot of the phones shove antennas in that cover. Oddly not the 3D which could be the reason our reception is generally bad.
Rippley05 said:
I would love more battery life, but..I don't get the people that hate to charge daily. Where the heck are you people sleeping that doesn't have electricity?!?
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I want to know to not only that everyone works where they can't plug it in? And if you don't should probably be off I know construction workers kind of special when it comes to this.
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they should just update battery mhzs..thatll be much better and no bulk
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This. Plus the battery would block the antenna rf and reduce surface area for placing it elsewhere. A lot of the phones shove antennas in that cover. Oddly not the 3D which could be the reason our reception is generally bad.
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From a design perspective I dont think this would be an issue . Iphones place the antenna on the outter edge of the phone itself. so making the back of the phone a battery itself shouldnt interfer with the antennas in this configuration
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they should just update battery mhzs..thatll be much better and no bulk
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in a sence this is what the brainstorm is about . The phone itself would already be made ultra thin (example Moto Razr) the back being made of a battery would only increase the thickness of the phone by say the typical thickness of our current battery (example) . From a design and engineering standpoint I dont see why this route hasnt been taken as of yet .
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I want to know to not only that everyone works where they can't plug it in? And if you don't should probably be off I know construction workers kind of special when it comes to this.
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I think it comes from my previous example of life with flip phones . I can relate personally when I had an EVO 4G with the 3500mah battery . To have a smartphone you never worry about plugging in is a freedom that is hard to explain . I feel the best way to put this is , remember when fuel was only 1.29 a gallon and then prices inched up alittle . People didnt like it raised hell about it but in the end people just accepted it .This cycle continued till we are at the current price of fuel 3.09-to whatever . The cycle is only reflected once again here in the smartphone world. We were used to phones that lasted days , then phones advanced , ok they last a day now we accepted that . Some cases phones dont last a day we accept that and move on . I guess what Im trying to say is we keep accepting it for what it is when there really should be no reason to accept that situation with phones .
Additional thought , Example Samsung Galaxy S 4G touch , The phone is ridiculously thin . What if the whole back of the phone was a battery(except the location of the camera etc etc) . The phone itself is a monster with its size . The surface area of the back of that phone with a battery back the thickness of say our current battery , you know it would easily be over a 2000mah battery . Phones are already progressing to being wider and bigger (to me almost on the verge or being micro tablets) they are already big in a sense . Adding two millimeters thickness to the back of it is not gonna make the phone that much thicker in relation to an already super thin phone (SGS2)
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What Im driving at is make the battery cover "the battery" that litterally snaps onto the phone.
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Like this: http://www.phonesuit.com/iphone-battery-case-phonesuit-elite-4?gclid=COCT8NWevqwCFY2b7QodtCmunw
Friend of mine has an iPhone, the case is the battery.
Its not the size of the battery, its the technology in the battery. I wish someone would engineer a compacitor to replace the whole setup. That way we could charge up almost instantly and use our phone for hours.
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Its not the size of the battery, its the technology in the battery. I wish someone would engineer a compacitor to replace the whole setup. That way we could charge up almost instantly and use our phone for hours.
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Ive been saying it for a while now....Nothing with batteries will change until the tech behind it does...I think weve milked lithium ion for all its worth , time for a change...
I'm surprised that no one posted this in this thread, but it looks like Lithium ion batteries might be around a bit longer:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/16/researchers-increase-charging-capacity-speed-of-lithium-ion-bat/
I can't wait. 3d makes the 4g look like the battery life was great.
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I'm surprised that no one posted this in this thread, but it looks like Lithium ion batteries might be around a bit longer:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/16/researchers-increase-charging-capacity-speed-of-lithium-ion-bat/
I can't wait. 3d makes the 4g look like the battery life was great.
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If it works as described(remains to be seen) then that would be a major improvement....Wonder how long it takes to go from discovery to full working consumer ready product?
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Nowhere, I bought a solar charger/battery from One Sale A day for $5. LOL, works pretty well and the whole unit is only about 3/4 the size of the evo 3d battery.
Amazing. Just when I've got enough stuff turned off that the phone is only ten or fifteen degrees above room temp, it turns out that it's not charging anyway.
Right now the only way my phone will charge is if I turn it off.
Maybe this is because I took the leak and went back to GB. I was convinced that all the power being lost to heat was the reason it wouldn't charge. Now, not so much.
I have pretty much everything turned off, and the phone's not actually using any juice. But it still isn't taking power unless I actually shut the device off.
The next leak can't get here soon enough. And I wish I meant that in a much better way.
Right now I'm glad I'm not one of those people who remembers every day of their life. Because I can't wait to forget the day I ruined my perfectly good Rezound with that leak.
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Amazing. Just when I've got enough stuff turned off that the phone is only ten or fifteen degrees above room temp, it turns out that it's not charging anyway.
Right now the only way my phone will charge is if I turn it off.
Maybe this is because I took the leak and went back to GB. I was convinced that all the power being lost to heat was the reason it wouldn't charge. Now, not so much.
I have pretty much everything turned off, and the phone's not actually using any juice. But it still isn't taking power unless I actually shut the device off.
The next leak can't get here soon enough. And I wish I meant that in a much better way.
Right now I'm glad I'm not one of those people who remembers every day of their life. Because I can't wait to forget the day I ruined my perfectly good Rezound with that leak.
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Maybe it's just a bad phone ? Sure alot of people seem to be having some heat and battery issues, but just as many do not. There are so many variables between phones, unfortunately you probably got a borderline phone which can't tolerate the new software .
It sounds like you have a lot more issues than the leak is causing. The battery life complaint I could see. I've upgraded thirty phones and had two that had a decrease in battery life and this seems to be about normal for what I see on the forums. But the charging issue, that's a different story. I don't think the next leak is going to repair that any more than flashing the leaked RUU again would, but that might be what your phone needs.
It sounds like you think the leaked firmware has mucked up your charging.
What voltage/battery are you using?
Do you have another around that you can test?
When it is charging does it say USB or AC?
It might be better in the long run to see if Vzw will give you a refurb.
I have the big HTC battery, about 2.8 Amps. When charging, it always says USB, even when the USB is plugged into a wall adapter.
And yes, I didn't have these problems when I ran the GB release, but I also know that restoring my GB apparently did not restore all files. For example, I had to replace my WiFi module from another package in order to get rid of the WiFi error.
If you are within warranty I would call up HTC parts and accessories and explain your charging issue. I think they will be willing to send you a replacement battery to see if it fixes your issue. Some or many have had issues with the 3.8v batteries, when I rma'd mine they sent me a 3.7v. It is relatively quick and painless.... unlike sending it to PCD repair.
*hmm maybe you consider the "big HTC battery" the extended battery; my extended is 3.7v and stock replacement is 3.7v for reference.
Got a new phone and the battery still is hot and drains fast
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Got a new phone and the battery still is hot and drains fast
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Running stock ? Otherwise it would be smarter to run a replacement on stock for a week or so to verify the hardware is working properly.seems like a lot of quality issues with the resound that is being blamed on the leaks without making sure its a good phone to start with.
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Got a new phone and the battery still is hot and drains fast
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MY Rezound just runs hot compared to my inc2. it seems that many have the same thing happeneing.
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Running stock ? Otherwise it would be smarter to run a replacement on stock for a week or so to verify the hardware is working properly.seems like a lot of quality issues with the resound that is being blamed on the leaks without making sure its a good phone to start with.
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Still running stock everything (new phone not refurb) and prolly will do another exchange tomorrow, because the drain and heat is that bad
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hopefully you wont have a problem exchanging your phone
Well I had hoped that this day wouldn't come,
But.... My TrueSmart has stopped working.
Not sure what the issue is..... I went to turn it on this morning like I always do... (I turn it off at night).
Pushed the "on" button and got no response from the watch. So I pulled the battery, put it back in, watch will flash white for a few sec and then be dead.
I swapped in the other battery I have... same thing.... So I thought that somehow the batteries drained themselves... so I connect it to charge and there is NO indication that it is charging... Left it for a while to see if it would come alive...
Nothing.
Very disappointing.
I was actually enjoying the watch very much looking forward to what the Devs were coming up with next. Pretty bummed out.
I guess I will put it in a drawer and one day when Laurent Le Pen opens a repair center I might be able to get it fixed.
Back to wearing my Pebble I guess.
Such a shame.... it was a nice piece of tech that started many conversations when people saw it.
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I would not give up and still try to revive it. If the battery it's very low it will take some time and several tries before the watch will show signs of life. And the connectors of the dock may not be perfectly working, or even the cable may be faulty. I find it hard to think that the watch just stopped working out of nowhere.
If the battery drops below a certain level the watch will never charge it. The part of the firmware that is supposed to prevent this........doesn't work. The only option is to use an external charger but there may be a fire risk.
The battery situation sounds like it may be accurate as I did drain the battery the other day.
So if my only way to try and get a charge into the battery is to remove it and put it in a stand alone charger, what charger should I use?
D.
That's the problem most likely.
What Loki said is true, many users reported that and even XDA review said same.
It would be great if someone knows for a external charger on ebay we buy and use if that happens.
Even there's a way to charge battery with a stripped wires on usb charger - that's something you shouldn't do if you don't know what are you doing...
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What battery level percentage is this? I've used mine down to about 10% and it's recharged fine before.
I think you have to let it run right out.
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What battery level percentage is this? I've used mine down to about 10% and it's recharged fine before.
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Well...probably ~ 0%.
The trick is to never let TS turn off by itself because of the battery level is too low...
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Well...probably ~ 0%.
The trick is to never let TS turn off by itself because of the battery level is too low...
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I have let my TS run out by itself several times already, and it charges fine even after that. But it's noted that this is a bad idea..
Anyway, the batteries that came with my watch was about 70% charged from the box, so it sounds unlikely that the other battery that OP tried is completely drained as well. My guess is that there is something else wrong with the watch.
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I have let my TS run out by itself several times already, and it charges fine even after that. But it's noted that this is a bad idea..
Anyway, the batteries that came with my watch was about 70% charged from the box, so it sounds unlikely that the other battery that OP tried is completely drained as well. My guess is that there is something else wrong with the watch.
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Could be....
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Well...probably ~ 0%.
The trick is to never let TS turn off by itself because of the battery level is too low...
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I use my TS without cell signal and I've found if I turn off the device and don't use it for a while then power it back on the clock and date will be out of sync until you turn on a data connection. This leads me to suspect it draws no power from the battery to retain these settings when the device is off, which would make sense about why it has this issue? I know for sure Samsung phones etc they display the battery percentage without the reserve to prevent such an issue happening on their devices. As Loki mentioned broken firmware maybe something could be written to prevent this or even to just show the percentage differently.
The time/date issue is because they removed the back up battery (to save space) that keeps the time on all normal sized phones.
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The time/date issue is because they removed the back up battery (to save space) that keeps the time on all normal sized phones.
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My galaxy note tablet has this problem.... it runs down fast and then just looses all date and time lol...
I think the issue is my batteries....
I was doing some experimenting today and with some fiddling around I got the watch to respond....
Battery #1 was 8% and then in about 2 min of being connected to the charger was reporting 55%
Battery #2 won't even do anything....
So, I am convinced that the issue is the batteries and not the watch.
Laurent has contacted me and provided a way to get my watch replaced, but it will require me to send it back and then wait for a replacement to be sent
Rather than going through all of this just yet, I wanted to see if I could solve it first.
So, if I wanted to get a replacement battery on my own, any ideas where I could get one from?
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no idea. maybe see if anyone near your area also had a TS and is willing to loan you a spare battery for a beer? haha
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watchdog service that prevents the battery from draining completely does not work on any of the firmware that Dees, Adam myself and other tested. So even if the battery is the best battery in the universe, an Omate can kill it. I even went so far as to test it with a Motorola battery and it killed that too.
Yeah. It looks like the batteries are toast.
I managed to get one to charge to 100% and was able to use the watch for about 30 min then it died. No signs of life and can't get it to charge again.
I really wish I could source a replacement battery to make sure it is the battery and not the watch so I don't waste the time and money sending it back.
The shipping cost to mail it back is crazy from Canada.
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"Omate - something new..."
It surly is... ?
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Yeah. It looks like the batteries are toast.
I managed to get one to charge to 100% and was able to use the watch for about 30 min then it died. No signs of life and can't get it to charge again.
I really wish I could source a replacement battery to make sure it is the battery and not the watch so I don't waste the time and money sending it back.
The shipping cost to mail it back is crazy from Canada.
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We should get them to tell us a model number so we can source OEM's. What's the motorola battery model Loki tried with his?
Mines run down completely a number of times without issue but I think I'll have Tasker cut it at 5% from now on.
When I got my G5 (Verizon VS987) I also got a spare battery and charging dock as a promotional extra.
The charging dock is connected to the USB port on my PC. When I swap batteries I put the discharged one in the charging dock and remove it when the lights indicate it's fully charged. If I don't swap batteries for a few days I'll stick it back into the charging dock for the few minutes it takes to bring it back to full charge.
Now I notice one battery is swollen, as if from charging too fast or ???
It still fits into the phone with some difficulty but it does fit.
I'm wondering if I should discard it or keep using it, wondering if it can damage the phone?
Any thoughts?
Do not use the swollen battery any more. Do not toss it in regular trash either - find an authorized battery recycling operation in your area. If you can't locate one immediately, store the battery in a dry, cool spot with electrical tape over the contacts until you can dispose of it properly. Continued use may cause the battery to fail and catch fire and/or explode.
Batteries can swell due to overcharging, but also wear and tear aging with frequent full charge cycles. If you've been using the battery daily for about a year it is not uncommon for it to show such signs of wear. Failure rates are also more common with cheaper, off-brand batteries that aren't made as well to begin with. Buy a replacement battery and make sure it is OEM quality.
I've had this happen once before with a Motorola V3 battery so you see how long ago that was!
I believe it's the USB port allowing charging at a faster rate than the factory charger? Two requirements, the charge must be from a USB port and the battery must be very discharged.
The swollen battery is genuine LG, sent direct from LG, whatever quality that might be. Both the swollen Motorola batteries continued to work just fine in the V3, the LG battery works but is VERY difficult to remove and is now out of the phone forever.
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I've had this happen once before with a Motorola V3 battery so you see how long ago that was!
I believe it's the USB port allowing charging at a faster rate than the factory charger? Two requirements, the charge must be from a USB port and the battery must be very discharged.
The swollen battery is genuine LG, sent direct from LG, whatever quality that might be. Both the swollen Motorola batteries continued to work just fine in the V3, the LG battery works but is VERY difficult to remove and is now out of the phone forever.
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It's not a problem of faster charging, but overcharging. The longer and more often a battery is charged 100% and left there, the quicker it wears out. If the battery is about a year old with daily use like this, a bit of swelling isn't unexpected.
There is no immediate threat from swelling but it is the start of failure if allowed to continue use. You surely don't want it expanding inside the phone from heat until it gets stuck and/or cause GPS, volume or other contacts to mess up by expanding the frame, etc.
Batteries aren't too expensive so order another one.
Not sure I agree, evidence seems to point to heat as the culprit since the battery wasn't charged that often.
Anyway, OEM batteries are available on eBay for under $12 and one should arrive Monday.
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Not sure I agree, evidence seems to point to heat as the culprit since the battery wasn't charged that often.
Anyway, OEM batteries are available on eBay for under $12 and one should arrive Monday.
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I wonder if those are legit LG made.
Yup, why wouldn't it be? It's a unique battery for an obsolete phone, everyone that has any quantity is dumping them. The one I'm getting is from an "overstock" dealer.
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Yup, why wouldn't it be? It's a unique battery for an obsolete phone, everyone that has any quantity is dumping them. The one I'm getting is from an "overstock" dealer.
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Yeah I was just curious. Will buy few myself that's not a bad deal at all. Yeah I can't blame people, this will be my last LG phone. Great specs and price, but build quality trash.
Sad part I know 3 people with LG V20 who are also having build quality issues. Speaker going on all of them and this is a common issue.
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Yeah I was just curious. Will buy few myself that's not a bad deal at all. Yeah I can't blame people, this will be my last LG phone. Great specs and price, but build quality trash.
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I guess I've been lucky, I've had very few problems. I really miss an unlocked bootloader and a rooted phone with a custom ROM but this seems to do the job other than about 90% of the "wonderful" features being stuff I don't want, don't use and would delete if the phone was rooted..
I really wanted the removable battery and the SD card, I think LG is my only option for both isn't it?
I have no idea what (or IF) my next phone will be, maybe I'll drag out my old Motorola V3 and use it? <G>
Seriously, no kidding, it's been all downhill since my BlackBerry Bold.
I bought two spares batteries, one from Ebay with the external charge case that looks genuine but the battery lasts about 20-25% less than the original battery and a second one from Aliexpress that lasts half the time of the original battery. The one from Ebay ways the same as the original, the one from Aliexpress is lighter.
On both the batteries the green heatshrink is not exactly the same color as the original one.
So I think none of those batteries you can buy from those sites will have the same capacity as a original battery from a official reseller.
The one I got seems to be OEM, I suspect the ones you got were just old, I can't imagine anyone making an aftermarket battery for such a low sales volume phone.
I believe any battery you get will be 3 - 4 years old before you get it, that may be why the one I got took almost 40 hours to reach full charge.
So far it seems it will last as long as the original but who knows?
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took almost 40 hours to reach full charge
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You have some abnormal batteries, cables, and/or chargers...
No, all working as they should.
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It's really nice to know this still happens...
I guess Google really let us down on this one. Not just battery issues but Nexus 6P as a whole. I was a nexus fanboy to say the least, but the kind of "support" Google showed for their flagship is embarrassing.
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It's really nice to know this still happens...
I guess Google really let us down on this one. Not just battery issues but Nexus 6P as a whole. I was a nexus fanboy to say the least, but the kind of "support" Google showed for their flagship is embarrassing.
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You have a bad battery, replace it and your good to go........ It's been discussed for months......... not a software issue
All phone batteries go bad over time, the 6p just manifests it by dieing early. My wife's LG G4 scaled her % properly but she just got bad screen on time. A bad battery is a bad battery......
inspire4gfreak said:
It's really nice to know this still happens...
I guess Google really let us down on this one. Not just battery issues but Nexus 6P as a whole. I was a nexus fanboy to say the least, but the kind of "support" Google showed for their flagship is embarrassing.
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My phone started shutting down with the battery as high as 40%. I went to the Google store website, chatted with a support rep, and though I was technically out of warranty, they set up an RMA without any argument. My new phone arrived 2 days later, I transferred the data from my old one, and dropped it in the mailbox in the package the new one came in. My new 6p's battery life is great.
All in all, it was one of the better experiences I've had with any company's customer support. Heck, I even got a spare AC adapter and USB C cable out of it.
I don't know if it is hardware or software anymore. I replaced my battery in mid July with a Cameron Sino battery. During the eclipse this week, I had my phone taking time lapse photos (not directly at the sun). Shortly after the eclipse, I noticed my phone was off. I booted it back up, and checked the battery. I saw the same battery drop off at about 25%. My phone still had 18% after boot up.
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I don't know if it is hardware or software anymore. I replaced my battery in mid July with a Cameron Sino battery. During the eclipse this week, I had my phone taking time lapse photos (not directly at the sun). Shortly after the eclipse, I noticed my phone was off. I booted it back up, and checked the battery. I saw the same battery drop off at about 25%. My phone still had 18% after boot up.
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And what is your battery capacity using Accubattery? CS batteries do have a good rep, but it's possible you got a dud or a knock off. Test it and see.
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You have a bad battery, replace it and your good to go........ It's been discussed for months......... not a software issue
All phone batteries go bad over time, the 6p just manifests it by dieing early. My wife's LG G4 scaled her % properly but she just got bad screen on time. A bad battery is a bad battery......
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Yes, I am aware that phone batteries get old and go bad. But I think false reporting how much juice do I have left is a software issue. It gets annoying when you don't know if your phone will turn off at 15% or 25-30%. In the last few months I stop touching it when it comes down to 30%, just to be sure.
I read about people that ordered new battery on eBay, along with all necessary tools for replacing it in the same package. I don't have a possibility for RMA in my country, I bought my 6P on eBay too, so that's probably a way to go for me.
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It's really nice to know this still happens...
I guess Google really let us down on this one. Not just battery issues but Nexus 6P as a whole. I was a nexus fanboy to say the least, but the kind of "support" Google showed for their flagship is embarrassing.
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Looks like you are watching a whole bunch of Cat Videos.
Software cannot always work around hardware issues. Many different phones with other OS's do exactly the same when there is a battery issue (iOS is one which does exactly the same). If you have no warranty, then getting the battery replaced yourself is the only real option as it is hardware, not software at fault.
I'm convinced the processor is destroying the battery.. too much heat, too much drain
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Too much charging is more likely a culprit. See lots of people charging phones to 100% several times a day when it has not really discharged that much. That will do more damage to a battery than anything.
That didn't go how you thought it would now did it OP?
The Nexus 6p is just really sensitive not sure what the battery does that makes it reboot. My first replacement battery gave me issues but the second one was fine. The only problem with the cheap ones is temp sensor doesn't work. But I don't feel its a huge loss. My suggestion buy a new battery the phones great. ?
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That didn't go how you thought it would now did it OP?
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How did he think it would go? I agree with the op, in the long run this phone has been disappointing. Google knows it, which is why they're still replacing them 2 years after the fact and there's a class action lawsuit pending.
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