NFC on Photon - Motorola Photon 4G

I came across this article on engadget that says NFC hardware can be embedded on a SIM card. May be something to look in to.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/17/sim-based-nfc-gains-global-support-from-45-mobile-carriers-all/

That would be cool. To bad the Nexus series is the only set of phones to have it built in

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Bought a HTC Hero g3 from china

My question is its not a 3G phone and I have AT&T here in the states. Will flashing a new ROM add 3G capabilities or is that a hardware issue?
Also can Technologists kernel be added to a stock Hero? Or do I need a custom rom?
Believe it or not, I am not new, played with HTC touch for 1 year and love xda. But still need my hand held for android yet..
I believe the problem is that the GSM here in the states uses a different radio frequency that the hardware isn't capable of switching to...that the rest of the world uses. You might want to confirm what bands China uses compared to EU and US GSM but I know the EU ones don't have full 3G here due to that issue.
yeah the Telus Hero in Canada works on AT&T's 3g but not the EU one.
Ok, well it came today and, well I now have a Tiger WG3 clone in my hands. I will send it back, but wondering how could I check the OS on it? The browsing I did has suggested its android based?
Is there something like TKE explore that will allow me to see the internals??
If this is what you've got, you've been had.
This isn't a Hero, and never will be a Hero. It doesn't/won't run Android.
Sorry!
Dave
Dave,
That looks like it for sure. Did you have one to play around with? I will send it back, but want to explore the insides abit if I can find a program to work with it.
Thanks for the reply.
No, I didn't buy one of those, but I did buy an iPhone mini "clone" because I wanted to try out the "dual sim" side of the phone. Unfortunately, it was a steam pile of dingos kidneys, and judging by the UI of the "Tiger WG3", it comes from the same family!
Hope you get your money back!
Dave
Thank god i found this post - i was about to get a tiger gw3 due to it being a dual sim phone and a hero look alike, so its true - those phones just has a pile of dingos kidneys inside.
thank you
HTC Hero Clone Running WinMo 6.5 Won't Detect SIM
Erased and put in the Q & A section instead. Sorry for putting it in the wrong place.
is that really a FM Aerial on the top of the phone?
I think you can buy HTC Hero G3 Android from china sourcinggate.com/htc-hero-g3-android-wifi-quadband-gps-smart-mobile-phone-white-p-12548.html
liupingbbs said:
I think you can buy HTC Hero G3 Android from china souxxx.com/htc-hero-g3-android-wifi-quadband-gps-smart-mobile-phone-white-p-12548.html
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[Q] Where's the FM radio?

The Moto spec sheets say there is one. Is this like Zork, where you have to look under a grating in a dark closet? I've used headphones but didn't see any "radio" options happen.
I cannot find anything about a FM radio in the official Motorola atrix specs...but I also would like to have a fm radio
fm radio
Yes there is an FM radio but you can't use it just yet. There is an app called CMP Connected Media Player that Motorola is working on but not released yet. There is a leaked version out there that connects to the FM receiver but it is not working (yet). Maybe they haven't enabled that feature yet, or maybe AT&T is blocking it because they want you to pay for their radio service, we don't know yet. I installed CMP and it is only half completed so it's probably best to wait for the official release whenever that will be. CMP uses the SAME icon and title as the current installed music player, so when you install it you will have 2 identical music app icons....like I said it may be better to just wait until the official release.
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Yes there is an FM radio but you can't use it just yet. There is an app called CMP Connected Media Player that Motorola is working on but not released yet. There is a leaked version out there that connects to the FM receiver but it is not working (yet). Maybe they haven't enabled that feature yet, or maybe AT&T is blocking it because they want you to pay for their radio service, we don't know yet. I installed CMP and it is only half completed so it's probably best to wait for the official release whenever that will be. CMP uses the SAME icon and title as the current installed music player, so when you install it you will have 2 identical music app icons....like I said it may be better to just wait until the official release.
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Any info on when it might be released?
Thanks, Panflute. Some things I'll meddle with, but resist the temptation to meddle for FM radio right now. I've got a chip full of MP3 stuffed in there that can keep me happy for a long time, and I'd like to explore the full range of lockups and lapses (Huh, was someone trying to use me as a phone?!) first.
The phone seems to get lost every once in a while, but that seems to be an Android thing, I'm guessing some tasks (like connecting to Google) sometimes take 100% CPU utilization and just don't bother telling the user to "wait please".
The Atrix has an FM chip inside that is true, but also the Milestone 2 has one and there is still no working fm app for that phone. Motorola only seems to activate the fm radio on there lower priced phones. I don't know why. In Motorolas specs list is nothing to find about a working fm radio. But something officially about the fm radio would change my mind.
Looks like someone has figured it here by updating Connected Music Player:
url://fabdroid.com/goodies/Motorola...er_1.0.179.apk
GhostXtreme said:
Looks like someone has figured it here by updating Connected Music Player:
url://fabdroid.com/goodies/Motorola...er_1.0.179.apk
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Had to rename to .apk extension, but fm radio still does not work...
"but fm radio still does not work..."
Forgive me if this is obvious...But you know the FM radios only work if you have a headset plugged in? They use the headset wire as the FM antenna. I'd expect the hardware won't "run" the radio unless it detects earbuds are plugged in.
Rred said:
"but fm radio still does not work..."
Forgive me if this is obvious...But you know the FM radios only work if you have a headset plugged in? They use the headset wire as the FM antenna. I'd expect the hardware won't "run" the radio unless it detects earbuds are plugged in.
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Yes my headset was plugged in, the app won't open without the headset, unfortunately it's not working...
I just tried it, doesn't seem to work yet. I have headphones in and it says it's playing, but there no sound.
I have to disagree with just waiting for Motorola to unlock this feature. The dev community had to unlock it for the Droid 2 as well...
I wonder why Motorola can advertise that the Atrix has the FM Radio with RDS, but their only service provider for now which is AT&T does not mention it at all.
I really don't want to blame anyone, but I miss this feature very much. One of the main reasons I purchased the Atrix is because I wouldn't be losing any existing features of my older phone.
Does anyone know the status of the Motorola Connected Music Player app?
Just wondering if anyone knows if there's been any progress on this.
It's gone now.
the broadcom chip on the phone supports fm radio but there isn't an application that has been developed to use it.
so unless some dev has ample knowledge of the broadcom chip and develops a new app for it, we won't get support.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/330308#330308
"I wonder why Motorola can advertise that the Atrix has the FM Radio with RDS, but their only service provider for now which is AT&T does not mention it at all."
That's an easy one to answer. If you buy an Atrix from Motorola, you can get it with the FM radio working. Oh, wait, that's right, Moto doesn't sell any of them.
So you buy it from AT&T, who has all their phones built/configured "OEM" just for AT&T's own specs, and funny thing, you get what AT&T advertises: No radio.
And that's the way the game is played. Buy it from Moto, you're entitled to a radio. Buy it from AT&T, you're not. Unless someone can convince the FTC or another agency that kneecapping hardware is an unfair trade practice that falls under their regulation.
Rred said:
"I wonder why Motorola can advertise that the Atrix has the FM Radio with RDS, but their only service provider for now which is AT&T does not mention it at all."
That's an easy one to answer. If you buy an Atrix from Motorola, you can get it with the FM radio working. Oh, wait, that's right, Moto doesn't sell any of them.
So you buy it from AT&T, who has all their phones built/configured "OEM" just for AT&T's own specs, and funny thing, you get what AT&T advertises: No radio.
And that's the way the game is played. Buy it from Moto, you're entitled to a radio. Buy it from AT&T, you're not. Unless someone can convince the FTC or another agency that kneecapping hardware is an unfair trade practice that falls under their regulation.
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But that doesn't make any sense, you just stated buy it from Moto, I'm entitled to radio, but just above that you say Moto doesn't sell any of them. So my conclusion would be I can't purchase one with an FM Radio working out of the box. If this is the case, it would definitely be false advertising.
My lawyer senses were tingling. I'm not that kind of attorney, but I'm pretty sure there's no false advertising here. Did AT&T tell you you were getting a radio? Sucks, yes. Actionable, no.
"But that doesn't make any sense, you just stated buy it from Moto, I'm entitled to radio, but just above that you say Moto doesn't sell any of them. So my conclusion would be I can't purchase one with an FM Radio working out of the box. If this is the case, it would definitely be false advertising."
What's false? Who's advertising? Think about it, your conclusion is correct. YOU can't purchase one, at this time, with a working radio. Or perhaps you could, if you bought one directly from Moto. AT&T probably has some exclusive with them, but no doubt you could order a hundred thousand phones after that runs out, and have them FM radio function implemented for you. Ohyeah, wholesale, retail, there are all kinds of markets and Moto never has, AFAIK, sold phone directly retail. If AT&T or some other carrier chooses to kneecap the product, or just supports a partial feature set...well, what's false about that, as long as they tell you what they are or aren't delivering?
Is it, perhaps, what some of us would opine "ungentlemenly conduct" or "not the best behavior" ? Or perhaps, bordering on "smarmy" ? Does the phrase "What WHERE they THINKING?" come to mind?
Well...if it was, that still doesn't necessarily make it false or illegal. Heck, the cellcos are allowed to charge 1000x more for SMS than they do for voice calling time, and that's not illegal. So, this one wants you to pay for data rates and get your music by the byte, rather than for free. Sadly, that's the way capitalism works. Or, not so sadly, when you're the capitalist.<G>
I'd suspect there's good pocket change to be made by any programmer who can sell a little applet to enable the radio. Like the Chinese ideogram, or the tarot card, that has two meanings: Chaos, and opportunity. All the same, no?
Now, if Moto had only released the Atrix in a ruggedized body, like the T-Mob Defy! Who knows, maybe in six months time. With an FM radio. And supporting the data bands from BOTH carriers. <G>

No NFC at launch ? (I9100)

Here in Sweden there is rumour that SGS2 I9100 will not have NFC at launch.
NFC will come later and the SGS2 without NFC cant upgrade to NFC.
For me it sounds like a totally stupid idea.
What do you think ?
Have you read anything about it in any other country ?
moparman said:
Here in Sweden there is rumour that SGS2 I9100 will not have NFC at launch.
NFC will come later and the SGS2 without NFC cant upgrade to NFC.
For me it sounds like a totally stupid idea.
What do you think ?
Have you read anything about it in any other country ?
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Well I don't know about Sweden but in Ireland, support for NFC is pretty scarce (read inexistent) so no harm really...
Same here...Just a few project and i think i have SGS3 before NFC is big here..
But i still hope NFC is in SGS2
I want the best heh
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Same here...Just a few project and i think i have SGS3 before NFC is big here..
But i still hope NFC is in SGS2
I want the best heh
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Here in Finland we hardly have color TV's, so the lack of NFC is not a problem.
Doesn't bother me much if they have NFC. In India there is no support what so ever and I think it will be years until it does.
Although I would still appreciate the technology within the phone. I travel a lot, and it would make it easier to conduct fast transactions.
Clove have confirmed (in the comments) that the UK version will have NFC:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/14/...-confirmed-exynos-chip-quad-band-3g/#comments
No NFC would be a big deal for me -- sure, it's not popular yet, but getting phones with NFC on board will be key to making it popular in the future. Google are also pushing NFC heavily:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/14/google-expands-nfc-check-ins-clutters-more-restaurant-windows/
It doesn't really matter if you really need NFC you can buy one of these SD-cards http://www.nearfieldcommunicationsworld.com/2009/01/12/3485/tyfone-puts-nfc-into-microsd-cards/ they have built-in NFC
i find NFC totally useless at this point
i've had the Nexus S for aprox 6 mth already, and i still have not found a SINGLE place that will offer NFC anything,
i'll be happy to see an add via NFC, but not even so.
i'll say we'll need at least 2 more years before the public sector, and market includes more NFC stuff.
i'll be interested to use my phone to pay for items via NFC
but NONE store supports that yet.
again... NFC is too green, there is no market at all for it yet.
in 2 years time we'll probably be at SGS 3 or SGS 4 already
Agree, especially in locations that NFC requires data transfers, most stores wont be able to offer it in India. I could see some retailers doing it but it cannot be expected that EVERYONE will go crazy over NFC and buy a $700 device to utilize it.
In sweden Samsung has confirmed on facebook that SGS2 launch without NFC.
And that they will launch one version with NFC later.
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I cant wait.
Lucky me that i live in north of sweden.
It will take years before NFC is here
And Germany? Any news?
Do want have NFC...
okorn_ said:
And Germany? Any news?
Do want have NFC...
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If it doesn't has NFC (ordered @ amazon.de) the price has to get lower!
I want ALL features for this price atm.
scorp1on1899 said:
If it doesn't has NFC (ordered @ amazon.de) the price has to get lower!
I want ALL features for this price atm.
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totally my opinion
As I said in the swedish swedroid forum I want NFC. Why pay same price as an device without... I totally agree with scorp1on1899
It might be that for certain carriers branded S2 will be delivered w/o NFC since the carriers THEMSELVES integrate NFC on their SIM-Card.
So speaking about NFC or not NFC: this is a tiny chip with a value of 1-2 .- € !
troed said:
It might be that for certain carriers branded S2 will be delivered w/o NFC since the carriers THEMSELVES integrate NFC on their SIM-Card.
So speaking about NFC or not NFC: this is a tiny chip with a value of 1-2 .- € !
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What? NFC on the SIM-Card?
Never!
Isn't NFC a hardware-feature in the phone
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What? NFC on the SIM-Card?
Never!
Isn't NFC a hardware-feature in the phone
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NFC can be implemented via SIM card if the carrier wants to and also via SD card. Where the chip is located within the device is mostly meaningless.
Death666Angel said:
NFC can be implemented via SIM card if the carrier wants to and also via SD card. Where the chip is located within the device is mostly meaningless.
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Hä? Really?
And how can the device read NFC-Information like buying traintickets, etc.?
With the Sim-Card or SD-Card???
scorp1on1899 said:
What? NFC on the SIM-Card?
Never!
Isn't NFC a hardware-feature in the phone
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The phone can read the sim/sd-card, thus the NFC chip on the card. As long as the phone is prepared (in terms of hardware) to read NFC chips from sim/sd-cards, I don't see any problems.
I'm not an expert but I think that technically it should be possible to put NFC chips in cards like sd or simcards.
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The phone can read the sim/sd-card, thus the NFC chip on the card. As long as the phone is prepared (in terms of hardware) to read NFC chips from sim/sd-cards, I don't see any problems.
I'm not an expert but I think that technically it should be possible to put NFC chips in cards like sd or simcards.
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I don't think so .. you would need a new interface for the cardreader .. maybe something like mhl for the usb-port (standart-micro-usb isnt able to put out video as hdmi does) and i don't think this will be integrated ..
NFC will be integrated into the phone .. or not
but for sure not in the sd/sim card
Edit: Ok maybe it could work, according to some pages i found on google .. but still appears weird to me

Google wallet app?

Google just launched the google wallet app on Nexus s 4g, i was wondering if anyone can get the apk http://www.google.com/wallet/
Our phones don't have the NFC chip in it. Too bad though, I would like to try it out. I read somewhere a company is going to build nfc chips inside of a micro sd card... We'll see.
What? Hero is evolving... Hero evolved into EVO 3D!
I would think it would make more sense for NFC chips to be embedded in the SIM card. Of course that won't help those carriers that don't use SIMs, but they should just get with the times!

[Q] Wireless Charging for Galaxy Note 2?

Hello,
i'm new to the site (well actual posting in forums)
so, I have one quick question,
do they have wireless capabilities?
because when i went to verizon wireelss website, and customer support chat online and asked if they have one, (like 2 days ago)
4 out of 4 people said "yes they have wireless charging capability.
1 said "yes"
2 said "yes", but need receiver that goes to back of cover (which I found online when i searched through)
3 said "yes", but only some mats/pads work with the device.
4 said "yes", all mats/pads will work on. --> and i asked this person if I have to do anything to actual device for it work, and said "no".
so, is it true that Galaxy Note 2 has wireless charging ability without doing anything to actual device (for verizon)?
I don't think the vzw variant supports it(without modification), but I may be wrong.
No it doesn't, it doesn't even have the pins on the motherboard like the Sprint version which is covered by plastic like Verizon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDSyjl_2CXo
Doesn't seem too hard if you know what you are doing... most ppl don't so yea :crying:
Verizon workers don't know anything.
lol ok, i just bought the galaxy note 2 from verizon store, well last night.
I actually went in and told them if GALAXY NOTE 2 has wireless charging capability,
they said 'YES'.
i asked if i could see back cover to double check.
there is no pins for it.
oh well, it didn't had the wireless charging pins, but I found other important part.
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lol ok, i just bought the galaxy note 2 from verizon store, well last night.
I actually went in and told them if GALAXY NOTE 2 has wireless charging capability,
they said 'YES'.
i asked if i could see back cover to double check.
there is no pins for it.
oh well, it didn't had the wireless charging pins, but I found other important part.
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Like IamPro stated, they don't have the ability right out of the box, but you can add it pretty easily.
But yeah, when I went into the local Verizon store to check out the GN2 a couple weeks ago, one of the chicks there tried to get me to buy the Razr M. She said "it was designed to look just like an iPhone" (wtf really?), and then a guy that works there tried to get me to buy the DNA and said that it had a 4.1" screen. Like wtf, how do you not know the devices you're selling??

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