Hi guys
Can anyone tell me if I have a Tab and have not applied the TW-update(still on vanilla android), will I be able to get ICS when it releases or do I have to wait for Samsung to release their update?
Yes, you will never get ICS if you don't apply Touchwiz. This is because the IP address of the registration number will conflict with the binary of the update MD5 sum.
Just kidding, but a silly question demands a silly answer. Yes, you can get the ICS update, but if you're waiting for the OTA update, it will come from Samsung and probably have Touchwiz baked in (and will probably not happen for a few months). Get a custom ICS ROM when they become available.
Thanks for the reply
My wording might have been a bit off/stupid.
To clarify
If I don't apply the TW-update (keep vanilla android) will I be able to apply ICS when Google release it (sometime soon hopefully) or will I still have to wait for Samsung to do their tweaks first
or
am I dependent on Samsung either way
i think you will probably get a ics ROM sooner in one of the forums of development. Otherwise you will have to wait for quite some time...
Seeing how utterly corrupt the last OTA i downloaded from samsung (the 3.2) was. I rooted and installed a custom rom, and damn it was worth it. Even if samsung pushed out a ISC early, i'd still not download it from them.
tstlii1y78 said:
Thanks for the reply
My wording might have been a bit off/stupid.
To clarify
If I don't apply the TW-update (keep vanilla android) will I be able to apply ICS when Google release it (sometime soon hopefully) or will I still have to wait for Samsung to do their tweaks first
or
am I dependent on Samsung either way
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Google doesn't support Samsung devices. Google provides Samsung with Android, but Samsung pushes the updates. Samsung will probably modify the update with Touchwiz before they send out the OTA.
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Looks like the Telus website is ready for the Gingerbread 2.3 update...
Durr: add https and www . telusmobility.com/en/ON/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Fascinate/how-to-002921.shtml
Now if only they'd actually release it
From the page:
As of July 2011, a new firmware version is available for the Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate 3G+. Before you update your smartphone, you need to know your current firmware version.
From the Home screen, tap Applications.
Tap Settings.
Select About phone.
You don't need an upgrade if the:
Firmware version is 2.3.3
Build number is GINGERBREAD.LKF9.
Interesting...the actual update page still says update to 2.2 and takes you to a page about updating to 2.2...of course a couple of weeks ago the update page listed 2.3 but had a dead link...so maybe its actually going to happen in our lifetime
have you tried connecting to kies to see if there's anything there??
Theres a new version of kies on samsung apps today but it didn't get me gingerbread yet. new version is Kies_2.0.2.11071_128_2
Yea.. I updated Kies and still nothing.. hopefully soon.. I grow anxious
I've been totally OCD about update checks lately. I'm driving myself nuts
I was the same way when i first say the update now for 2.3.4 on the update page a few weeks ago...gave up when they switched it back to a link to the 2.2 update...now i think it will be back to a nightly check
interesting, kies is suddenly only reporting my current firmware version and not saying that it's the current one... but not offering anything new yet, hopefully it's a sign of a release and not just a glitch
Fallen0ne said:
interesting, kies is suddenly only reporting my current firmware version and not saying that it's the current one... but not offering anything new yet, hopefully it's a sign of a release and not just a glitch
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Yea.. I noticed that too. I suspect that the server it checks is just not responding, but... fingers crossed
Just checked again.. back to normal. Hopes dashed. :/
That makes me a saaaaaaaaaaaaaad panda
I think they just like toying with us
They're mean now that bell has the SII, it might be time to loose telus.
wow
Been waiting for this myself - checked the NS page and there is an annoucement to get the latest as well. Hopefully I don't have to unroot or disable lagfix before trying ... might disable the lagfix regardless though since that appears to be best practice with any ROM.
Tried but also getting the 'you have the latest firmware' message ... doh!
I gave it a shot, I'm running Bionix-V 1.3.1, and it came up with the message "incompatible device" looks like you'll have to downgrade to the stock rom anyways
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jpmccarthy said:
Been waiting for this myself - checked the NS page and there is an annoucement to get the latest as well. Hopefully I don't have to unroot or disable lagfix before trying ... might disable the lagfix regardless though since that appears to be best practice with any ROM.
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I gave it a shot, I'm running Bionix-V 1.3.1, and it came up with the message "incompatible device" looks like you'll have to downgrade to the stock rom anyways
out of curiosity, why not just install one of the many custom gingerbread roms out there? they're no longer the bug-ridden hack-fest they were a few months ago. seeing as some of you already are rooted or running a custom rom, i'm interested to know why wait for stock?
i do understand some people prefer to keep their phones in stock and i respect their decision.
edit: i'm personally running Darky's Rom 10.2 on my T959D. Tried CM7 (nightly 67) before as well, and although that was a headache to set up on my fascinate, it was also nice to see the differences between a samsung and aosp rom.
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out of curiosity, why not just install one of the many custom gingerbread roms out there? they're no longer the bug-ridden hack-fest they were a few months ago. seeing as some of you already are rooted or running a custom rom, i'm interested to know why wait for stock?
i do understand some people prefer to keep their phones in stock and i respect their decision.
edit: i'm personally running Darky's Rom 10.2 on my T959D. Tried CM7 (nightly 67) before as well, and although that was a headache to set up on my fascinate, it was also nice to see the differences between a samsung and aosp rom.
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How is Darky's any issues running it on a T959D?? Did you follow any particulr guide when installing?
How To for Darky's?
Japots said:
out of curiosity, why not just install one of the many custom gingerbread roms out there? they're no longer the bug-ridden hack-fest they were a few months ago. seeing as some of you already are rooted or running a custom rom, i'm interested to know why wait for stock?
i do understand some people prefer to keep their phones in stock and i respect their decision.
edit: i'm personally running Darky's Rom 10.2 on my T959D. Tried CM7 (nightly 67) before as well, and although that was a headache to set up on my fascinate, it was also nice to see the differences between a samsung and aosp rom.
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Second that - what has made me gun shy is that the Telus Fascinate is actually more like a vibrant or i9000 - so custom ROMs have some risk.
That being said heard so many great things about Darky's - would love a how to from someone with our phone and how it is working ...
Heard from Samsung
Apparently not ready but its weeks away, not months.
I'm thinking of buying a tab but don't like that samsung has "branded" the OS now with touchwiz, is it possible to android, without samsung stuff, so as to get the updates ota when they're released? For example 3.2 is released but haven't made it to galaxy 10.1 yet?
Does one need to root the tablet to do this?
Are there any nice how-tos?
Buying a tablet or waiting for google to release their own depends on if this is possible.
Thanks for any help!
Dashu2 said:
I'm thinking of buying a tab but don't like that samsung has "branded" the OS now with touchwiz, is it possible to android, without samsung stuff, so as to get the updates ota when they're released? For example 3.2 is released but haven't made it to galaxy 10.1 yet?
Does one need to root the tablet to do this?
Are there any nice how-tos?
Buying a tablet or waiting for google to release their own depends on if this is possible.
Thanks for any help!
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Yes you have to root to get 3.2 honeycomb. Right now some developers are developing vanilla 3.2 ROM for Gtab 10.1. And each time an update is released for honeycomb we have to wait for the developers to update their ROM, so that we can flash the ROM.
Another thing is that honey comb wont be seeing much updates as IceCream sandwich is just about to be released.
If you want to get updates directly from Google then you have to buy a Google Experience Device. but right now there is no pure google experience tablet (AFAIK).
I think I'm looking for the same thing, I want a 10.1 tab but without the Touchwiz mods..
But just to confirm that I understand you correctly, If I purchase one of these tablets it would be possible to de-brand it and remove the Samsung bloatware/Touchwiz stuff and thus run the basic stock Android by using one of the ROMS posted throughout the forums, which I'm assuming is limited to 3.1 as you say 3.2 is in development, not that version makes any difference to myself.
dc10555 said:
I think I'm looking for the same thing, I want a 10.1 tab but without the Touchwiz mods..
But just to confirm that I understand you correctly, If I purchase one of these tablets it would be possible to de-brand it and remove the Samsung bloatware/Touchwiz stuff and thus run the basic stock Android by using one of the ROMS posted throughout the forums, which I'm assuming is limited to 3.1 as you say 3.2 is in development, not that version makes any difference to myself.
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Yes. You can install any non-touchwiz ROM in the dev section(Blazer is the only one i guess) or use the 3.1 stock ROM
Im a student and im planing on using my tab for classes (taking notes, etc). I found this really good app https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad but it says that galaxy 10.1 owners must root their device to install (touchscreen tune) https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vital&hl=en
I really need this app, but i don't know if once rooted I'll be able to update to ice cream sandwich or any other future updates. Can anyone tell me if I'll be able to update?? Any help will be great!
realmadrid1013 said:
Im a student and im planing on using my tab for classes (taking notes, etc). I found this really good app https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad but it says that galaxy 10.1 owners must root their device to install (touchscreen tune) https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vital&hl=en
I really need this app, but i don't know if once rooted I'll be able to update to ice cream sandwich or any other future updates. Can anyone tell me if I'll be able to update?? Any help will be great!
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If you root you will not get the OTA updates. CM9 will be out for rooted tabs way before the OTA update (not to mention that it will probably be vastly superior), so you'll get ICS, just not from Samsung...
I was able to update from 3.1 to 3.2 via Kies' after rooting. I just lost root, had to reroot... Though, honestly, I cannot fathom a reason to take an update loaded with tons of bloat when there are 100% better roms available here to flash in - and painlessley I might add.
Thanks for the answers, do you know if a rom for ics is abailable? and do uknow of any good roms?
realmadrid1013 said:
Thanks for the answers, do you know if a rom for ics is abailable? and do uknow of any good roms?
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No stable ICS ROMS yet - keep an eye in the Development section below for updates.
You have to match the ROM with your device. I have a wifi only Tab, so I use Galaxy Task V10.
there are ics roms....just have some bugs...
take a look: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425631
Hi everybody,
I'm new to the forum and would appreciate any help anyone could possibly offer me. I recently bought my Galaxy 10.1 and have been using it fairly contently for the past number of weeks. However I was recently looking to install Allshare and found that it was only available on version 3.2. So I entered 'Settings ->About tablet -> Software update -> Update. While trying to find updates I get the message 'Connection failed'. There is no problem with my internet connection as I am constantly online carrying out all other regular operations. When I connect using KIES, it doesn't propose any update to me.
I am living in Luxembourg and am wondering if that could be a problem considering the region of my device is 'XX', which does not include Luxembourg. But I would have expected another message, such as 'No update available'.
Any ideas anyone? Whatever I do, nothing seems to help. I'm open do any other options for updating my tab.
Thanks in advance,
Damien (Luxembourg)
Model number: GT-P7510
Android version: 3.1
Kernel version: 2.6.36.3 [email protected] #1
Build number: HMJ37.XXKFC P7510XXKFC
get a custom rom ASAP
Yes it seems you have a bad case of "wait for the manufacturer" problem. There is only one cure: get a custom rom. The trouble with the Tab 10.1, though is that there aren't any custom roms based on Honeycomb (3.x) (to my knowledge anyway) since the source was never released by Google. So your only hope is to jump straight up to a version of ICS (4.0), which are pretty early releases right now.
Having said that I have done it and pretty much everything works fine for me. Look in the Android development for KANG (make sure you get the right one, they are different for either the wifi or 3G one).
Other than that, have a howl at Samsung I guess.
divereigh said:
Yes it seems you have a bad case of "wait for the manufacturer" problem. There is only one cure: get a custom rom. The trouble with the Tab 10.1, though is that there aren't any custom roms based on Honeycomb (3.x) (to my knowledge anyway) since the source was never released by Google. So your only hope is to jump straight up to a version of ICS (4.0), which are pretty early releases right now.
Having said that I have done it and pretty much everything works fine for me. Look in the Android development for KANG (make sure you get the right one, they are different for either the wifi or 3G one).
Other than that, have a howl at Samsung I guess.
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Incorrect info. There are many custom roms based on HoneyComb 3.2 in the development [email protected] If you aren't sure when giving advice, don't give advice?
Roms based on official 3.2 Honeycomb. I just picked some of the most recent releases, there are quite a few more.
TASK650's "GALAXY TASK 13.1 Slim"(3.2) WIFI ONLYhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340064
10.Jan.2012][ROM][P75xx] ◄► Overcome 10.1 Series v2.2.0◄► Recovery v5.1.2.6 :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348533
BinDroid Gtab KL1 Wifi V3.4[Kernel]BinDroid Gtab WiFi TW V1|Onlinehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283555
stoney73 said:
Incorrect info. There are many custom roms based on HoneyComb 3.2 in the development [email protected] If you aren't sure when giving advice, don't give advice?
Roms based on official 3.2 Honeycomb. I just picked some of the most recent releases, there are quite a few more.
TASK650's "GALAXY TASK 13.1 Slim"(3.2) WIFI ONLYhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340064
10.Jan.2012][ROM][P75xx] ◄► Overcome 10.1 Series v2.2.0◄► Recovery v5.1.2.6 :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348533
BinDroid Gtab KL1 Wifi V3.4[Kernel]BinDroid Gtab WiFi TW V1|Onlinehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283555
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Ooops, my bad. Sorry. I just read somewhere that Google never released the source to Honeycomb so I assumed that there was not going to be an AOSP. Yes I should have checked before opening my mouth on that.
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Ooops, my bad. Sorry. I just read somewhere that Google never released the source to Honeycomb so I assumed that there was not going to be an AOSP. Yes I should have checked before opening my mouth on that.
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Sorry, didn't mean to come off all high and mighty, I blame it on the hangover.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using xda premium
And what if you download Samsung Kies on your PC and connect and update through it?
Samsung Kies is the official application by ... Samsung yeah (..) but it's not the world's most reliable application. Sometimes you might even have to install this more than once for it to recognize your Samsung device and update through it.
Maybe you already tried this, just ignore my comment then
I had something similar although my GT saw the update. After downloading it refused to install (update from approximately 13 MB). After reboot it ran the update to 13%, then rebooted and stated that it could not update. Same story when I tried to update through Kies. Trying to solve this one I flashed P7510XWKI2_P7510OXEKI1_SER through Odin on the tab and tried to update again. This time the update file was approximately 88 MB and got stuck after 9% and rebooted also telling me that it could not update. When trying to update through Kies it finally successfully updated. Maybe a bit much work (and tricky ) but it works.
stoney73 said:
Sorry, didn't mean to come off all high and mighty, I blame it on the hangover.
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Thanks for saying that. I appreciate it. It has renewed my desire to keep interacting on the forums (and learning more about what I am talking about).
Damian
I want to buy Galaxy S3 in a local store.
I can ask whatever ROM I want (they will install it for me).
Before I'm buying it, I need to verify one thing which is important to me.
I understand that if I have an original Samsung ROM then I can get an operating system update by the internet only - when it being released.
My question is, when Samsung will release the Android 4.2.x version for the S3 could I get it on my device by the internet?
Maybe I would have to install the official Samsung ROM for 4.1.x and only then get the update?
Thank you for your help.
Either u get ota update.
Or u use kies.
Or odin easiest method.
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psifasim said:
I want to buy Galaxy S3 in a local store.
I can ask whatever ROM I want (they will install it for me).
>> That will void Samsung warranty unless it official and not rooted .
I understand that if I have an original Samsung ROM then I can get an operating system update by the internet only - when it being released.
>>> YES as and when the update is released for the firmware you have .
My question is, when Samsung will release the Android 4.2.x version for the S3
>>>>Need to ask Samsung .
could I get it on my device by the internet?
>> Its all by the internet ??? KIES OTA or from XDA Developers forum .
BASICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
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Wrong section, post in QA
psifasim said:
I want to buy Galaxy S3 in a local store.
I can ask whatever ROM I want (they will install it for me).
Before I'm buying it, I need to verify one thing which is important to me.
I understand that if I have an original Samsung ROM then I can get an operating system update by the internet only - when it being released.
My question is, when Samsung will release the Android 4.2.x version for the S3 could I get it on my device by the internet?
Maybe I would have to install the official Samsung ROM for 4.1.x and only then get the update?
Thank you for your help.
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There are a few things that you need to know about Samsung updates:
1) Yes, Samsung will give you updates. You can update via the official Samsung KIES software, OTA (over-the-air), or through an unofficial ODIN software.
2) Samsung will never give you the latest updates as soon as they arrive. You will have to wait up to six months for an Android update.
3) Samsung will discontinue updates for phones that were released around 1.5 years before the new update is released. For example, if you buy the Galaxy S2, you will most probably not get the new Key Lime Pie (which will be released later this year). Similarly, for the Galaxy S3, you might not get the Android update scheduled for a 2014 release. You will get these updates if you buy a Nexus 4, on the other hand, or if you choose to install a custom ROM such as Cyanogenmod.