Anyone has try using flyer to play a 720p video? Does it lag or having some delay on frame?
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Depends on where the source of the file is. 1080 chokes, 720 is fine.
If on the device (internal or external sd cad), it works fine... You will have to downmix the audio to stereo before transferring as the built in player doesn't do it for you, 5.1 AAC and 5.1 AC3 don't work... No sound. ..or use a third party application. The only one I have been able to find that can handle 5.1 is Dice Player. It software decodes at a cost of some video quality. No dropped frames, but artifacts galore. Moboplayer and the built in player don't artifact the video but the sound problem.... Also Dice is a pay app and I don't use my Flyer for video much anyway (have a HTPC for that).
If streaming over wifi on your home network, same prerequisite for the downmix applies. Also, I would recommend an 802.11n router. 802.11g tends to lag out on the larger files (>4gb)
If streaming over the Internet, the lag will depend on the internet connection itself.
Probably a bit longer of an answer than you were intending, but hope this helps.
That was a good detailed answer.
The short answer is that yes the Flyer can handle 720p playback and just like any other tablet as long as the format matches the accelerated HW CODECs, it works fine. Like any other tablet, feed it something strange and it won't playback smoothly.
It was so detail.. thank you very much..
Btw, I am using flyer to watch 720p rmvb format.. anyway.
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shaun'yeap said:
It was so detail.. thank you very much..
Btw, I am using flyer to watch 720p rmvb format.. anyway.
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So, the Flyer does not natively support RMVB video. If you are not getting good playback I would convert to one of the native formats. if you can.
.3gp, .3g2, .mp4,
.wmv (Windows Media Video 9)
.avi (MP4 ASP and MP3)
.xvid (MP4 ASP and MP3)
kardain said:
Depends on where the source of the file is. 1080 chokes, 720 is fine.
If on the device (internal or external sd cad), it works fine... You will have to downmix the audio to stereo before transferring as the built in player doesn't do it for you, 5.1 AAC and 5.1 AC3 don't work... No sound. ..or use a third party application. The only one I have been able to find that can handle 5.1 is Dice Player. It software decodes at a cost of some video quality. No dropped frames, but artifacts galore. Moboplayer and the built in player don't artifact the video but the sound problem.... Also Dice is a pay app and I don't use my Flyer for video much anyway (have a HTPC for that).
If streaming over wifi on your home network, same prerequisite for the downmix applies. Also, I would recommend an 802.11n router. 802.11g tends to lag out on the larger files (>4gb)
If streaming over the Internet, the lag will depend on the internet connection itself.
Probably a bit longer of an answer than you were intending, but hope this helps.
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The BS Player does a good job for me. No lag issues thus far with using 720 files that I have viewed.
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I know this may not be the perfect thread to ask, but what I found on XDA has been inconsequential.
Do you guys manage to feed >4GB video files (as the 720p videos tend to be) to the Flyer? How? I've tried and got "file too large for the operating system"
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I know this may not be the perfect thread to ask, but what I found on XDA has been inconsequential.
Do you guys manage to feed >4GB video files (as the 720p videos tend to be) to the Flyer? How? I've tried and got "file too large for the operating system"
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I have several Bluray rips (of discs I own) on a NAS, LAN is gigabit ethernet and wifi is 802.11n. Each rip weighs in between 9-10gb after a mild compression from 1080p to 720p (1080p + nvidia ion2 + linux + xbmc = fail). The rips are MP4 with AAC audio.
The nas is set up to serve the files over upnp and/or samba. So, I used upnplay (https://market.android.com/details?id=cx.hoohol.silanoid&hl=en) to locate the file and it asks to open with a video player.
No errors given as it is streaming over the LAN instead of playing off the device.
However, if you are planning on playing the files straight off the Flyer, handbrake can reduce it further to a 2gb file with 2.0 audio, no discernable video loss on the 7" screen.
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On edit: was browsing around and found a reference for Skifta (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skifta.android.app) as a upnp client. Using it instead of upnplay somehow downmixes 5.1 to 2.0 on Moboplayer (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil). One issue is that Skifta doesn't support landscape, but it's only a minor annoyance.
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DigitalMD said:
So, the Flyer does not natively support RMVB video. If you are not getting good playback I would convert to one of the native formats. if you can.
.3gp, .3g2, .mp4,
.wmv (Windows Media Video 9)
.avi (MP4 ASP and MP3)
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yea, actually I don't need the 720p, just the video original is that size. I watch it by Flyer because I can watch it while travelling. Am too lazy to convert.. haha.. So I would need to find a video converter =) anyway thank..
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The BS Player does a good job for me. No lag issues thus far with using 720 files that I have viewed.
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I will have a try. thank=)
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I know this may not be the perfect thread to ask, but what I found on XDA has been inconsequential.
Do you guys manage to feed >4GB video files (as the 720p videos tend to be) to the Flyer? How? I've tried and got "file too large for the operating system"
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I'm not sure about this. My video is about 500-750MB, it might be compress by rmvb format. And Flyer has a hard time to play it.
Well problem is, for some formats the player has to do conversion on the fly and that degrades performance. That's why you may need to covert first. Yes its no fun and it takes time, but you can then guarantee lag free playback
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yea, actually I don't need the 720p, just the video original is that size. I watch it by Flyer because I can watch it while travelling. Am too lazy to convert.. haha.. So I would need to find a video converter =) anyway thank..
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It will take me a few hours to test while a raw Bluray rip reencodes, but I think I have a Handbrake profile to convert the video to a format that is both small in file size and playable on the Flyer with no lag and little visual degradation (using the built in player)...
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I just picked up my gtablet yesterday and have been spending my time installing tnt lite and installing several apps. I bought it because when I go on trips I wanted something that could browse the net, and play videos. I installed RockPlayer and put a 720p mkv file onto the machine, however playback is very choppy and its almost like the device cannot handle it. I know that several people have gotten 1080p to work good, and I am wondering if there is a setting that needs to be enabled to make 720p work better? I did some digging and saw that someone said to edit a line in the build.prop file (set the media.stagefright.enable from true to false), but I cannot edit my build.prop file. And I am not entirely sure that this will fix the problem. Are 720p videos playable on this machine?
What profile did you render the movies in? Try changing the MKV extension to AVI... Sometimes some renderers treat containers differently even though they are using the same codecs.
just tried to rename the extension from .mkv to .avi and still same choppiness and eventually the videos stops playing all together. I am not sure what rendering is, but the file is encoded AAC 2.0 H264
h264 is not the issue, it's what profile its encoded in
I have this in my FAQ section (in my sig). h264 is supported, but the Tegra 2 cannot handle h264 encoded in high profile. It can handle main profile.
This is confusing to people. So, what I would recommend is to download the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and it will show you how your videos are encoded.
As for container support, I think MP4 plays a little better than MKV, but Rockplayer (in the Market) seems to be able to handle MKV and using hardware acceleration. Again, as long as it's h264 main profile.
This is not just an issue with the GTab - all the Tegra 2 devices will have this issue as its a limitation of the chipset, or so I've read. Vega, Folio, even the mysterious Adam will probably have this same limitation.
Reference on h264 and main / high profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Yeah, that's the tricky part. I haven't been able to figure that out yet, although granted I haven't put much time into it. I think these "profiles" depend on how you encode and which tool you use.
If you try the Tron Legacy trailers, they are 1080p but main profile. A good example of how nice videos can look on it, when encoded the right way.
I have to play around more with something like ffmpeg to see if I can pin this down. Another reason for transcoding is to keep the sizes down, since we have the 4GB FAT32 file size limitation to deal with. Yuk.
I've incoded a 1080p high profile to main. sound was in and out then tryed a few things and lost sound. Video played great anyways.
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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Could be a lower screen resolution that full 720p (not all 720p's are alike).
I also read today that Tegra 2 720p should work in high profile, but 1080p definitely does not. But, Android itself might be limiting even 720p, so it's a crap shoot.
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
Ok, makes sense. I do the same thing using upnplay and my server. Thought you were wanting them on the tablet.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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A two hour 720p movie runs ~4GB, so it's close to the limit in FAT32. And you could easily go over the limit when encoding, which would require you to break the file up. Annoying.
The problem here is that none of the vendors want to agree on a replacement file system for portable devices (wow, no surprise there). MS wants exFAT, the open source community would prefer EXT3/4, and I assume Apple would prefer HFS+.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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First rule of Usenet.....
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Okay I'm doing the Madagascar penguin "you didn't see anything gesture" now. LOL.
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japhule said:
It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
G Tab supports H.264 1080p main and high profiles
Detailed specs on what Audio and Video formats G Tablet supports are listed in the manual downloadable from the Viewsonic web site.
But in a few words - it does support up to 1080p, both baseline, high, and main profiles for H.264 with certain limitations for each, and MPEG4 simple profile.
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
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My entire system is redundant. I have my windows 7 share as well as my htpc/nas running tversity, orb and audiogalaxy (music only). Everything is shared in every way. First I try just streaming the file through Windows 7 dlna, which generally works fine. I too use Upnplay. If something doesn't work (very rare) I move to looking for it through Tversity which attempts to detect the dlna device and scale it so it works. I've never needed to use Orb on the GTab since I really got everything up and running, Orb is for when I actually am on the road and want to watch sth. from my home network. PlayOn may actually work as well - it has a free mode which allows you to use it to share files on the local network using VLC codecs.
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I'd like to add to this conversation with, I hope, clarification of how to get higher definition video playback working on the GTab.
I've tried four video files that are 720P or 1080P. None of them works well in Movies, DoubleTwist, Rockplayer, or VitalPlayer.
G Tablet, TnT 4.21, OE kernel. Market fix. Various apps.
Videos all playing from /SDCARD
Here is some more information about those videos, using Mediainfo:
Touring Car race:
720P MPEG-4 50FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 3 ref frames)
AAC Stereo
Big Buck Bunny:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/
1080P OpenDML AVI 12Mbps 24FPS MPEG-4 Visual ([email protected])
AC-3 audio
Audi R8:
720P AVC Matroska 800Kbps 29.970FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 2 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Donington LG demo:
1080P BDAV M2TS 35.5Mbps 29.970fps AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC /3 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Are all of these simply too much for me to get away with playing on the GTab? I've played most, if not all of these, using a Broadcom 70012 Crystal HD decoder card on a Dell Mini 9 (Atom N270) with few problems.
Thanks for the help.
Can the Flyer play high-profile .mkv movies?
Also, can you transfer a 5-8 GB movie file to the Flyer and play it flawlessly?
The Playbook does NFTS storage so you can play 6 - 8 GB movie files. I don't know if the Flyer can do NFTS or not.
you mean, you'd like to know if you can format your SD card as a NTFS drive, and copy large video files on it?
No it won't play. I tried loading 720 mkv and it doesn't play. But the SD card is supported.
I tried to with an app downloaded from the market, it does play with sounds, but the picture is not that great.
I am using Plex to play all my videos (all file types including mkv). Plex re-encodes on the fly, saving you from having to re-encode your video for your specific device.
When I had my Transformer, I was not happy with the quality of the video. But on the Flyer's 7" screen its acceptable.
I need to set up a remote server so I can watch my vids remotely away from home.
kilofox said:
I am using Plex to play all my videos (all file types including mkv). Plex re-encodes on the fly, saving you from having to re-encode your video for your specific device.
When I had my Transformer, I was not happy with the quality of the video. But on the Flyer's 7" screen its acceptable.
I need to set up a remote server so I can watch my vids remotely away from home.
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:O i'm gonna try it, thanks for the info
Using Plex Remotely
Using this guide below, I was able to remotely access my Plex Media Server with my Flyer tethered to my HTC Thunderbolt.
http://wiki.plexapp.com/index.php/Plex_Android#Enabling_Android_from_outside_of_your_home_network
Of note: To test your remote connection, make sure your Flyer is not connected to your home wifi network. In my case I tethered my Flyer to my Thunderbolt.
It works beautifully I might add.
Earthbrain said:
Can the Flyer play high-profile .mkv movies?
Also, can you transfer a 5-8 GB movie file to the Flyer and play it flawlessly?
The Playbook does NFTS storage so you can play 6 - 8 GB movie files. I don't know if the Flyer can do NFTS or not.
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just bought a flyer yesterday and i tried a 720p mkv (Naruto episode) and I dowloaded mobo player and it played OK. I think there was a bit of a lag but its hard to tell.
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just bought a flyer yesterday and i tried a 720p mkv (Naruto episode) and I dowloaded mobo player and it played OK. I think there was a bit of a lag but its hard to tell.
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I've read the vplayer and rockplayer should support MKVs. Supposedly you can get a cable for 1080p HDMI playback on an external source. I have not tried any of the above.
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I've read the vplayer and rockplayer should support MKVs. Supposedly you can get a cable for 1080p HDMI playback on an external source. I have not tried any of the above.
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Maybe you can connect in 1080p but from what I've read the chipset does not support 1080p video decoding.
vplayer and rockplayer would not play back 720p mkvs for me. it would play 720p avi.
I cant remember which one it was, but one of the video players i tried would play them back on "software decoding" (as opposed to "hardware decoding"), but it didn't look good.
Try Moboplayer. It plays back 720p mkvs for me. Its not super smooth but its the lowest frame drops i've seen.
Hello, I have recently encountered issues with regards to 1080p video playback.
Being aware that the TF201 has 4 cores, I had expected smooth playback with no lag.
When playing media files from my Plex media server, the 1080p video files play flawlessly. Though when playing the exact same files locally from the Transformer's directory, the video plays with extreme lag and jittery.
Video Players Tested with (Results in Lag) : MX Video Player, MoboPlayer
Anyone know a possible solution?
Thanks In Advance.
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Hello, I have recently encountered issues with regards to 1080p video playback.
Being aware that the TF201 has 4 cores, I had expected smooth playback with no lag.
When playing media files from my Plex media server, the 1080p video files play flawlessly. Though when playing the exact same files locally from the Transformer's directory, the video plays with extreme lag and jittery.
Video Players Tested with (Results in Lag) : MX Video Player, MoboPlayer
Anyone know a possible solution?
Thanks In Advance.
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Try different decoding type...
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Try different decoding type...
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Could you recommend any alternatives?
I've tried both software and hardware, still no solution.
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I'd use bsplayer. I found it better handling large files, particularly mkv files or hi res video.
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I'd use bsplayer. I found it better handling large files, particularly mkv files or hi res video.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try
Are you using an SD card to play your video files? using a class 6 or lower card may cause studdering in HD video files. You'll want a class 10 card.
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Are you using an SD card to play your video files? using a class 6 or lower card may cause studdering in HD video files. You'll want a class 10 card.
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I'm playing directly from the transformer's internal storage.
My Class 10 microSD still needs a week to come in. @[email protected]
Would playing from the internal storage result in playback lag?
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Could you recommend any alternatives?
I've tried both software and hardware, still no solution.
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Is Plex transcoding for you? Perhaps check the settings there and try to match for local playback.
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Is Plex transcoding for you? Perhaps check the settings there and try to match for local playback.
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Plex's playback is via DirectPlay
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I'd use bsplayer. I found it better handling large files, particularly mkv files or hi res video.
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The playback is much more smooth, but the video and audio always end up out of sync
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I'm playing directly from the transformer's internal storage.
My Class 10 microSD still needs a week to come in. @[email protected]
Would playing from the internal storage result in playback lag?
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It shouldn't. Usually internal flash storage is a lot faster than removable flash storage. I doubt ASUS would go cheap and use cheap flash storage on their device.
Do you know what type of video format you are playing? mkv is a video container, which usually hold h.264 video files and 5.1 digital sound format, but can be different.
Ask Andyx over in his thread, "what would you like to know about the prime" . He might can help you. It should be able to play 1080p files flawlessly as it's been tested as so by a few members here that have it and major reviewers. It might be your encoding. It should play with no lag or issues from internal storage or SD card. Actually been tested by major reviewer, I think Anadtech or technobuffalo, to play just as flawlessly from SD card than from internal storage.
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Ask Andyx over in his thread, "what would you like to know about the prime" . He might can help you. It should be able to play 1080p files flawlessly as it's been tested as so by a few members here that have it and major reviewers. It might be your encoding. It should play with no lag or issues from internal storage or SD card. Actually been tested by major reviewer, I think Anadtech or technobuffalo, to play just as flawlessly from SD card than from internal storage.
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Not sure
The video is an MKV file
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x1080 29.97fps [Video]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz stereo [Audio]
Size: 1.5 - 2.1GB each?
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Not sure
The video is an MKV file
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x1080 29.97fps [Video]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz stereo [Audio]
Size: 1.5 - 2.1GB each?
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The file AndyX played on his YouTube vid was 1080P MKV file also. Which played with no issues. I'd say run these same stats by him to compare to what he ran in his video. There's another guy here to that ran a high quality video test. His thread is called something like you got questions, I got questions. Those 2 and candy are the only ones it's seems that have a prime also already that might can help.
The only thing I can think is that the file is encoded using some odd parameters that do not jive with the Prime and the reason it works with Plex is because it's doing some kind of decoding, even if on a lower level.
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The only thing I can think is that the file is encoded using some odd parameters that do not jive with the Prime and the reason it works with Plex is because it's doing some kind of decoding, even if on a lower level.
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I'd go with that. I've seen some nutty as a fruit cake parameters on mkv's I've shared from friends. one of them just will not convert in handbrake, it looks like crap and yet played natively as an mkv file it looks fine. when I delved into the frame encoding etc it was bizarre.
I'd go with a grotty mkv file over the prime having an issue here.
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Hello, I have recently encountered issues with regards to 1080p video playback.
Being aware that the TF201 has 4 cores, I had expected smooth playback with no lag.
When playing media files from my Plex media server, the 1080p video files play flawlessly. Though when playing the exact same files locally from the Transformer's directory, the video plays with extreme lag and jittery.
Video Players Tested with (Results in Lag) : MX Video Player, MoboPlayer
Anyone know a possible solution?
Thanks In Advance.
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On MX player, did you try all 3 coding options ( HW, SW, SW fast)? If so, try dice player trial. Almost like mx, but they have their own codecs to download.
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On MX player, did you try all 3 coding options ( HW, SW, SW fast)? If so, try dice player trial. Almost like mx, but they have their own codecs to download.
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Dice Player on the Market should do the trick. Works really well and plays everything I throw at it, but the "Paid" version seems to be missing from the Market at the moment due to Google Checkout issues with the developer.
Anand did a really good review testing all kinds of video codecs. He was able to play 1080p H.264 high profile streams at up to 40Mbps just fine using DicePlayer.
Video Playback: Blu-ray Quality in a Tablet
wtf, same old problems? The only reason I sold my old one and upgraded was because I thought the thing was a beast and could crunch through any video format without re encoding.
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Needless to say, I'm pretty pissed at ASUS right now.
I need this tablet before I go on my trip on Jan 2.
They pretty much said they would deliver on time and have learned from the original release. NOPE.
They originally promised that the keyboard would work with newer generations. NOPE.
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wtf, same old problems? The only reason I sold my old one and upgraded was because I thought the thing was a beast and could crunch through any video format without re encoding.
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Technically speaking, it can, the only reason why I am currently unable to do so is perhaps due to software issues. Playback is perfectly fine via media servers, but I encounter issues when playing back the same videos in local storage.
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It appears there is an audio issue with RockPlayer and Hardware Decoding on our device. After contacting the developers, they will be releasing a version with SW audio support while using hardware for video to fix this. Expected within one month. Post will be updated once released.
DicePlayer has been recommended as an alternative as it has HW decode and native SAMBA support, however it does not appear to handle hardware decoding for as many formats as RockPlayer (watch for SW in the upper left).
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Hi all,
While going through the Accessory Guide post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377669) I realized there was an odd recommendation on video playback using Emit Free. With our devices there is no need for transcoding like you would have to do on an iPad, but it's still not "easy" to get full 1080P playback over the network.
With root, you can install cifs drivers that are pretty efficient, but without it, many times video stutters. I tested a large combination of File Managers that mounted CIFS/SAMBA shares and Video Players to see which performed best.
From File Manager HD and Astro to MXPlayer and XYPlayer nearly all of them had stuttering issues with 1080P video, and lag when seeking in 720P video. Below is where I ended up, which entailed perfect 1080P playback, with zero lag when seeking (tested on high bitrate MKV and AVI w/ AC3 and DTS audio samples).
1. Install ES File Explorer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.estrongs.android.pop
ES File Explorer is a file manager that supports CIFS/SAMBA mounts (these are the shared folders on your Windows, Mac, or Linux PC). Once open, swipe right to access the network shares. I recommend turning on "Detail" mode in the settings, so you can see file sizes and permissions, too. The advantage of ES File Explorer over other managers I tried is that the CIFS implementation has been optimized very well, and was the best at streaming the file data to the video player from a speed and bandwidth perspective.
2. Install RockPlayer Lite: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.redirectin.rockplayer.android.unified.lite
RockPlayer is a great player that includes hardware acceleration, much like MXPlayer. The difference here is that like ES File Explorer, RockPlayer seems better optimized for network file handling. With other players in combination with ES File Explorer, there were still lag issues during seek. RockPlayer has none of these issues.
Be sure to enable HW acceleration in Rockplayer
Also ensure app mode is set to "stretched" instead of "zoomed"
Any questions, or other options, feel free to post below.
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Thanks!
Ben
i tried your suggestion.
yeah it gets rid of the lag but:
- there is no sound for most of my hd mkv videos
- subtitles dont show for mkv files
nice to see that the tfp actually does have the power to play these smoothly though!
I have been using ES File explorer and it does help with the streaming. However, I have not gotten a streaming video to play thru the whole movie/show. Seems every 10 or 30mins (differs), it will quit playing. I've tried the same setup on my Galaxy Nexus and don't have issues. I guess I can try Rock Player. I guess no one else has this issue? I've seen it mentioned once or twice while reading the boards but no answers. I thought maybe it was on my end and somehow the wifi was dropping, but if it is...its not displaying it.
I use dice player. It has native ability to open network shares and plays HD MKV files over wifi without lag or stutter.
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I use dice player. It has native ability to open network shares and plays HD MKV files over wifi without lag or stutter.
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can it transcode dts audio or any multichannel audio? any program i have tried plays fine but there is no audio
tried it , unfortunally no sound on most of my mkv's.
Dice player does a better job, way more codecs supported and equal network performance, rockplayer seems to build up a bigger buffer, at the beginning it may look like its more stable but after a while both are laging .. (high profile 1080)
what's up with all the lagging ? wifi performance not good enough or is the SOC not capable of streaming and decoding all at once? no problems from sdcard ..
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can it transcode dts audio or any multichannel audio? any program i have tried plays fine but there is no audio
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Dice player works great with mkv movies with DTS and AC3 audio on my TF201. Dice player is the best way to stream movie using a NAS Imo.
tested with dlink dns-323 and stock tf201.
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tried it , unfortunally no sound on most of my mkv's.
Dice player does a better job, way more codecs supported and equal network performance, rockplayer seems to build up a bigger buffer, at the beginning it may look like its more stable but after a while both are laging .. (high profile 1080)
what's up with all the lagging ? wifi performance not good enough or is the SOC not capable of streaming and decoding all at once? no problems from sdcard ..
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Wifi performance is the issue for me. If i'm sitting next to the router 1080p plays fine. If I go to other rooms(even adjacent rooms) then it will stutter periodically. It really impairs one of the primary uses that I wanted the Transformer Prime for. As of now I use Plex to transcode to a smaller bitrate
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tried it , unfortunally no sound on most of my mkv's.
Dice player does a better job, way more codecs supported and equal network performance, rockplayer seems to build up a bigger buffer, at the beginning it may look like its more stable but after a while both are laging .. (high profile 1080)
what's up with all the lagging ? wifi performance not good enough or is the SOC not capable of streaming and decoding all at once? no problems from sdcard ..
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Interesting, I've had the exact opposite impressions with Rockplayer having more HW decoding support. In any event, I'm stupid for not testing audio.
I've updated the first post based on discussions with the developers of Rockplayer, and will do a re-work of this guide focusing on both solutions once it is released and we can test.
Thanks,
Ben
I haven't tried Rockplayer. However, I get excellent results with Diceplayer. I stream all 720p and most 1080p .mkv using estrongs file explorer. Some 1080p will get lag. Just depends on the bit rate your 1080p video is encoded at, and your WIFI connection speed.
I actually just run an entire home PC with Win 7 Ultimate on it for my movie collection. I just RJ45 it right to my Wireless router. That way I can stream all of my movies to any device in my home. I have quite a few WDTV lives hooked up to all my tv's in my house. So it works out great.
Plus once in awhile If a 1080p video isn't playing well on my prime. I convert it using airvideo. I have airvideo server running on the Win 7 server. (those that have an ipad 2 that is) Have this option. You simply load airvideo on your ipad 2. Select the .mkv you want to convert to .m4v and add it to quere. Airvideo has all the conversion and bitrate methods built in the program. So I don't have to mess with jumping on Win 7 machine. Loading a conversion program and blah blah. I have yet to find an Android program that compares to Airvideo. If someone has suggestion let me know. (Yes, I have tried PLEX). Just can't beat the Live Conversion and simple conversion in Airvideo.
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I have been using ES File explorer and it does help with the streaming. However, I have not gotten a streaming video to play thru the whole movie/show. Seems every 10 or 30mins (differs), it will quit playing. I've tried the same setup on my Galaxy Nexus and don't have issues. I guess I can try Rock Player. I guess no one else has this issue? I've seen it mentioned once or twice while reading the boards but no answers. I thought maybe it was on my end and somehow the wifi was dropping, but if it is...its not displaying it.
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Yeah i get the same thing happening to me randomly.
Using mx player and es file explorer, maybe 15 or 20 mins into watching, the player will just quit by itself. Doesnt happen always though, maybe twice for every 5 vids i play.
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I haven't tried Rockplayer. However, I get excellent results with Diceplayer. I stream all 720p and most 1080p .mkv using estrongs file explorer. Some 1080p will get lag. Just depends on the bit rate your 1080p video is encoded at, and your WIFI connection speed.
I actually just run an entire home PC with Win 7 Ultimate on it for my movie collection. I just RJ45 it right to my Wireless router. That way I can stream all of my movies to any device in my home. I have quite a few WDTV lives hooked up to all my tv's in my house. So it works out great.
Plus once in awhile If a 1080p video isn't playing well on my prime. I convert it using airvideo. I have airvideo server running on the Win 7 server. (those that have an ipad 2 that is) Have this option. You simply load airvideo on your ipad 2. Select the .mkv you want to convert to .m4v and add it to quere. Airvideo has all the conversion and bitrate methods built in the program. So I don't have to mess with jumping on Win 7 machine. Loading a conversion program and blah blah. I have yet to find an Android program that compares to Airvideo. If someone has suggestion let me know. (Yes, I have tried PLEX). Just can't beat the Live Conversion and simple conversion in Airvideo.
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I'm amazed you think going through all that is better than PLEX. With PLEX you just load the app and select the movie... Done. For bonus it also works when you're away from home and want to watch a movie even tethered through 3G
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I'm amazed you think going through all that is better than PLEX. With PLEX you just load the app and select the movie... Done. For bonus it also works when you're away from home and want to watch a movie even tethered through 3G
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Well, I will try Plex again. I haven't tried it in awhile. Alot of movies I don't have any problem with. Its only the high bit rate 1080p mkv's. I know Plex does Live conversion as well. Perhaps they have improved it since I last used it. One feature i did think was cool with plex was how it catagorized your movie collection for you.
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Well, I will try Plex again. I haven't tried it in awhile. Alot of movies I don't have any problem with. Its only the high bit rate 1080p mkv's. I know Plex does Live conversion as well. Perhaps they have improved it since I last used it. One feature i did think was cool with plex was how it catagorized your movie collection for you.
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Another nice thing about Plex is that you can choose not to do live transcoding and just stream the original video(silly wifi bandwidth allowing). But, that does bring me to my one complaint about Plex. You cannot directly stream the original video if it is mkv, it will always transcode.
In my experience:
If you want to avoid transcoding, then rooting + CIFS support really is the best, most efficient way, imho...plus, you're killing multiple birds with one stone, as file types not recognized by ES or other file explorers that support SAMBA, but which are supported by various apps on your tablet, will still work with whatever app you're using to interact with them.
Otherwise, this guide is good for playback without transcoding for some files. I'm able to stream some of my bluray and HD DVD rips (full bitrate mkv's with no down-sampling, de-rezzing, additional compression or detail removal) without transcoding, but high-bitrate titles such as The Empire Strikes Back hitch frequently. Don't know if that's a limitation of my wireless setup, tho).
On the transcoding side:
Emit free works fine. It's a little easier, imho, to set up remote file sharing that even Plex is, if you have to set up port forwarding manually on your router, as the instructions are pretty explicit about which ports it's using and how to get it set up. And, it's free.
Plex works fine, and cross-compatibility between Ipad and Android on the Plex server side, along with the cataloging, support for file types such as .wtv, and the channels concept, is pretty damn cool imho. You have to look around if your setup falls outside the norm as far as port forwarding manually is concerned, but if you don't experience issues, getting set up with a myPlex account for remote streaming is pretty straightforward. Transcoding looks pretty stellar if you can support anything above 4 mbps on your wireless, and it doesn't take a lot of CPU horsepower to do live streaming, either. I have an older AMD processor in my HTPC, and I stream 1080i .wtv files all day long to both my Prime and my wife's Ipad with no or extremely little stutter, and all my bluray rips play without issue. .WTV files can be played back while they're being recorded, and while watching something else on the HTPC, too...oh, and combine this with a Windows Media Center control app, and you can basically watch live tv on the Prime...just browse the guide, set a show to record, and you can watch it almost immediately in Plex, while it's recording.
Last, but not least, Splashtop THD or whatever the newer version is, actually works pretty damn well on my office rig, which is nvidia-equipped. .wtv files work as well, but you have to set your machine to open them by default in WMP instead of Windows Media Center.
I've got quite a lot of movies and videos but some play better than others on my Android Tablet and some just don't play at all.
Does anybody know if there is a preferred file format for movies and videos because there are too many to choose from?
I just don't know which of the many options I should consider from AVI, Xvid, Divx, H.264 and any other flavour you can think of.
Cheers
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I've got quite a lot of movies and videos but some play better than others on my Android Tablet and some just don't play at all.
Does anybody know if there is a preferred file format for movies and videos because there are too many to choose from?
I just don't know which of the many options I should consider from AVI, Xvid, Divx, H.264 and any other flavour you can think of.
Cheers
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Use mx video player x) no need to convert
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If you want a format that any device will play including tv's with usb connectors, portable players as well as android devices then an avi video file with xvid compression and mpeg 3 audio is the most accepted and standard video format.
But if you just want videos on android then mx player should play pretty much anything.
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But if you just want videos on android then mx player should play pretty much anything.
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I wish i was as simple as throwing MX Player at everything but sadly some MP4 file formats play so bad that I get around 8-11 frames per second. Some other MP4 file
s work perfectly.
AVI files work a treat however its a bit of a lottery with MP4 files as I cant work out what kind they are.
My computers can do the number crunching to mask this problem but my lowly ASUS Pad TF300T struggles at times.
I should point out that I'm streaming the movies from a NAS box at the moment. I haven't tried running some of these movies from the internal hard drive.
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I wish i was as simple as throwing MX Player at everything but sadly some MP4 file formats play so bad that I get around 8-11 frames per second. Some other MP4 file
s work perfectly.
AVI files work a treat however its a bit of a lottery with MP4 files as I cant work out what kind they are.
My computers can do the number crunching to mask this problem but my lowly ASUS Pad TF300T struggles at times.
I should point out that I'm streaming the movies from a NAS box at the moment. I haven't tried running some of these movies from the internal hard drive.
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It could be the app your using to stream, I found some apps would stream pretty badly from my wireless hard drive.
Ideally you could play a problem file on your android from the device itself to check it plays fine and if it does you will probably have to convert to avi if they play better for streaming.
There are a couple of dlna apps you could try, can't recall the names as I watch videos via a usb stick on my tv now, but play store has a few. Alternatively if the app your using allows you to alter its buffer size you could increase it which would help.
If you have a windows pc you can install vlc media player and use it to see the codecs used in the problem videos. You may find they all have something in common maybe like ac3 audio. If so you can convert audio easily to something less processor intensive with pc freeware like virtualdubmod.
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MKV and MP4 have much advanced features than AVI/TS files.
If you use Diceplayer , MKV is the best format.
multiple audio track / embeded subtiles / no problems on HTTP streaming
but Diceplayer plays most of files without transcoding.
Try switching to full software rendering (video+audio) in MX video player instead of hardware rendering to get rid of chopping and out of sync audio. It'll use more battery but I haven't had a video yet that it didn't play.
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