Has anyone ever talked about or put it as a request to the Mods to split the Razr forum into sub-forums, like have a Razr GSM forum and a Razr CDMA forum? It gets very hard to read every single thread to tell if it is about gsm or cdma. If I may I would like to put this to the mods to help simplify this forum a little. Please.
Mods please, if possible this would help so much.
I too agree with this, as a new member. Separating the GSM phone from the CDMA version will stop issues like flashing the wrong rom, resulting in less threads started asking how to recover from a boot loop or other issues.
This would be a godsend, please make this happen, if CDMA and GSM seemd to tacky then name them Motorola DROID RAZR and Motorola RAZR
AndroidGreg said:
This would be a godsend, please make this happen, if CDMA and GSM seemd to tacky then name them Motorola DROID RAZR and Motorola RAZR
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It's nice to see someone using the correct names.
Just use the codename, Motorola Spyder. Then Subforum for each variant.
Motorola sure will reused Razr name in future device.
But reality is... with more sub-forum, it will create more fragmentations.
Android fragmentation is already bad. Now you all want to split this phone into sections.
The essential part of this phone is almost same, all run the same Application Processor(AP).
You suggestion is already taken into consideration. This is our suggestion in the mean time....
Mandatory Thread Title Requirements For Development Section
i have been using the droid x2 for about two years. it has a locked bootloader, and very limited abilities as far as flashing roms goes. kernels will be a new thing to me. i have noticed that in most rom install instructions, there are no specifications on what version to be on. lol not something i am used to.
could someone point me in the right direction for some reading material on the subject? this phone specifically? i understand a fair amount about being rooted and performing various things within recovery and android in general. i just want to make sure that before i go messing around with my s3, i know exactly what im doing. thanks in advance.
also, i have read a decent amount already, and it seems like this phone is fairly easy to brick,? also not something i am used to. the droid x2 with its locked bootloader was next to impossible to brick.
cant wait to join the ranks.! thanks again.
read as many threads in General as you can
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
i have been using the droid x2 for about two years. it has a locked bootloader, and very limited abilities as far as flashing roms goes. kernels will be a new thing to me. i have noticed that in most rom install instructions, there are no specifications on what version to be on. lol not something i am used to.
could someone point me in the right direction for some reading material on the subject? this phone specifically? i understand a fair amount about being rooted and performing various things within recovery and android in general. i just want to make sure that before i go messing around with my s3, i know exactly what im doing. thanks in advance.
also, i have read a decent amount already, and it seems like this phone is fairly easy to brick,? also not something i am used to. the droid x2 with its locked bootloader was next to impossible to brick.
cant wait to join the ranks.! thanks again.
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Good choice, mate!
Which S3 is it? I see you're in the USofA. There are several variants of S3 in the world. American/Canadian S3's are the Snapdragon variant, not the International variety, which is what this forum is for. If it is not the GT-I9300, anything you flash from here will definitely brick your phone.
Refer this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756338
We can only guide you further once this question is answered. Good luck!
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Good choice, mate!
Which S3 is it? I see you're in the USofA. There are several variants of S3 in the world. American/Canadian S3's are the Snapdragon variant, not the International variety, which is what this forum is for. If it is not the GT-I9300, anything you flash from here will definitely brick your phone.
Refer this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756338
We can only guide you further once this question is answered. Good luck!
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thank you sir. ! i guess i would be getting the non international version. :highfive:
international version has many developers than the other variants. once you start flashing custom roms or kernels or mods, there is no guarantee that your phone will not brick. flashing without damage to the phone depends on how you do that. goodluck.
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Yeah Make sure you're in the right forum for your phone. Follow that chart for your carrier.
Also if you happen to be getting T-Mobile,there is a new variant that has the LTE radio T999L which is a hardware difference and not a simple software upgrade. So if you did happen to get T-Mobile, hopefully you have the LTE variant.
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Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
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Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
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Click on your phone info.
Write down the last 3 digits if your build version.
If it is MJ7 enjoy your Samsung iphone or take the risk of Chinese infiltration with vroot.
If its anything else, type go to GOOGLE.COM and type in those 3 letters followed by the word "Root".
Good luck!
Doesn't get much simpler than that.. :sly:
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
asubiyyal said:
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
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You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
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You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
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Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
I have MJ7 also and I've looked at root alternatives and it's risky at best. Let me know if you find a less risky way.
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Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
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The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
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The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
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Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
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Perhaps you could post on one of the T-Mobile threads here and explain what "doesn't work" means, as they may be able to help you.
Non-Verizon SIMs work for me, but I'm not using a SIM from some other US carrier.
asubiyyal said:
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
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I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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Sorry if you thinking this is "trolling by a veteran user".
First, you need to understand: the i545 is not SIM locked. Any SIM will work.
However, there's some question as to whether or not that SIM will allow other US carriers to work. Mine works with a SIM that gives me AT&T data. (It's from a European carrier.)
Here's how you can answer your question. First, look at the top of this window.
There's a box on the top reading "Search this forum".
I entered "tmobile" there, then got the following threads:
Tmobile sim and samsung galaxy s4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397984
Does the new MJ7 firmware update block GSM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523307
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
T-Mobile HSPA(+) on SCH-I545 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2478411
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
[Q]OOC Verizon S4 on Tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331131
Okay I have a vzw galaxy s4 working in tmobile http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457568
Then, searches for "T-mobile":
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
[Q] T-Mobile on VZW S4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464730
VZW Galaxy S4 can it be use on tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447312&highlight=t-mobile
Probably very useful:
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
Using any one of those will connect you with people trying to use their Verizon phones on T-Mobile.
rshipa 1313
Haha nice work you guys. I will try and then post in couple of days about the above solutions/links you all have given. Thanks again!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
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I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
Yes it can be done. Basic strps are to get a
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Basic steps are to get a sim.
Then go and see if it picked ip the APN settings. If not you should be able to create a new APN and put in the values manually. Search on xda for the values
Finally. Theres a thread in xda that explains how to download a phone info app. Which will allow you to set the phone radio to LTE/GSM.
last thing you want to check is that you can do wifi, sms, mms, voice mail, etc.
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I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
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A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
I really can't explain the purpose of this site any better than this post by Kyphur:
"I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
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A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
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I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
EDIT: P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working. Or maybe I ddnt search the right sections. I'll do XDA search through Google now
asubiyyal said:
I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working.
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I didn't think you were being a rude, but I just thought I would share with you post that explains the purpose of XDA very well. It might seem harsh because it's out of context & was originally directed at some a$$hole.
We were all newbs here, I'm no programmer I just like learning code because I like learning how all of this stuff works. I'm glad you want to start learning to. All I did in the beginning was google search "rooting" and a bunch of write-ups & video's came up that taught me a lot.
I think this all falls under off topic this is really not the place for senior members to try b!+ch slap junior members, staying on topic is how this site operates
Being a Member of XDA for a while now I recall in the past on different models that XDA use to create sub-forums for Carrier Variants. I.E. Verizon, Sprint, GSM based. This was helpful for the noobs and Rom creators in making sure that Noobs didn't flash the incorrect Rom or Recovery.
Looking at the HTC One Max forums there occasionally is this confusion as members will post a general variant specific issues and a novice not knowing the difference would unintentionally use it thinking it applied to their device. Some Devs don't identify there Roms or indicate a variant which contributes to the issue.
I think it would be very beneficial for development on this device to have Variant based sub forums. Additionally having variant based sub-forums will help identify Underdeveloped devices.
Just my 2 cents.
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Some Devs don't identify there Roms or indicate a variant which contributes to the issue.
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I'm sure when we get way more than 3 threads in original and 3 in development they will look at dividing the Max forum. Until then we need anyone that posts anything to ensure they identify what model it will work on. I believe most of the development done for us thus far does not identify which model it works for because it works across all (in one form or another).
To be honest most if not all of the issues people have had thus far is because they are not searching and reading to understand something before they do it. I guarantee a dev or someone with knowledge will try to help the best they can. BUT no one wants to help someone that doesn't try to help themselves by understanding what they are doing first.
If anyone notices that some development is device specific and it is not labeled as such then ping the dev and ask that they identify it appropriately. And if anyone feels strongly enough that something is not labeled or mislabeled that could end up causing issues with someone's device then AFTER ASKING THE OP to update feel free to contact one of our mods to correct or close the thread until it is adjusted. Many hands make light work...
i can see both points here
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i can see both points here
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I can see the point as well. But it will be a while before the forums are divided if at all. I said "until then" because we all need to work together now to police the threads to make sure things are made clear if they are not.
Jiggity Janx said:
I can see the point as well. But it will be a while before the forums are divided if at all. I said "until then" because we all need to work together now to police the threads to make sure things are made clear if they are not.
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yeah i know what you mean. we clearly need more roms and development before anything gets split up
oneandroidnut said:
yeah i know what you mean. we clearly need more roms and development before anything gets split up
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I know coming from the Motorola Droid HD forums that the impact of not separating them is lots of "Learning Experiences". I am quite learned in the rooting/bootlocker experience and even I was confused by the variants in that forum. I got it sorted out but it took longer then is should have.
I am in the process of learning java and android development and I plan on properly labeling my threads and apps. Oh and Blender for Custom Boot Animations. I have a Plan for A Doctor Who based Animation.
Plus I like tidiness and organization. Makes things more efficient.
How do I tell which version of the One Max I have?
It's one of the 32 gig versions, it's gsm and works on United states ATT. baseband version is 4T,27.3218.14_10.33C.1718.01L Software number says 3.15.1540.1 I think it might be the Hong Kong or British one, but it's been quite confusing trying to figure out which is which. I bought it off Amazon, so I know there's a chance that the software has been "improved' a bit.
Thanks for any help-I did try to search on it, but wasn't finding anything with useful info for me, or possibly I just don't know where to look. It's been some few years since I had an HTC..I bought the original G1 on opening day
Any help, or even just a point in the right direction would be most appreciated. I'd like to get this sucker rooted and get rid of the crapware as soon as possible
My how things have changed. After having fun with many iterations of droids (Eris, D2G, Bionic), I had a rude awakening with my recent Razr M purchase. It was already on an OTA which apparently won't allow for the bootloader to be unlocked. I WAS rooted and doing alright with that, but I took the KK update and just like that, no more root. I was mislead into thinking I could root after the OTA, but that was apparently wrong.
I am bound and determined to keep my unlimited data with VZW, but also want a phone that can be rooted and preferably allow for custom ROMs as I have enjoyed in the past. I would like to stay in the mid-2012 and forward range. Does anyone have recommendations on a phone that is conducive to root/bootloader unlock? Apparently VZW has been keeping up with the exploits found by the dev community (thus my razr m frustrations) and fixing them with OTA updates. Does have any recommendations?
I have done my own research and not found a ton. I've been looking for dev edition phones but they are spares and/or expensive. I have heard the HTC One is still quite open, any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Also, if this is not the most appropriate forum for this post, please advise with my apologies.
Sorry for the reply on own post. Is this the wrong board for this post? If so can someone direct me to the proper board?
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