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Is it just me or should there be a different forum for just the GSM Razr Developments. So far it looks like there are roots for just one or the other but not a all in one solution for both versions. Correct me if wrong but if this is going end up the case that Roms, and rooting instructions won't work on all versions then since this is the DROID RAZR forum topic then thats what needs to be posted here.
So far some call it GSM Razr some call them by the 2 or 3 different Razr models, and some just say Razr. What models are being talked about in all the Dev topics really should have a uniform way of dealing with each version or else there is going to be problems.
Like I said if I am wrong then ignore this, but I look at the topics and it gets confusing at times what models are really being talked about or what models are supported by a certain root method. I reiterate, if it doesn't work for the Verizon DROID RAZR then should it actually be posted in this forum at all?
Admins have any take on this? This forum section does state it is for the DROID RAZR.
With such a new device, any development is good development. Other devices get by with topics flagged as [GSM] or [CDMA], I don't really see any point in creating a second forum until there's actually enough discussion to merit it. Both currently have locked bootloaders, and aside from Verizon bloatware, the same software setup (The GSM version's software even contains references to Verizon). There may be reason to open a GSM RAZR forum soon, but now - so soon after launch - isn't really it.
People just need to a) Flag threads they start better, and b) Read threads they didn't start properly.
kutster said:
Is it just me or should there be a different forum for just the GSM Razr Developments. So far it looks like there are roots for just one or the other but not a all in one solution for both versions. Correct me if wrong but if this is going end up the case that Roms, and rooting instructions won't work on all versions then since this is the DROID RAZR forum topic then thats what needs to be posted here.
So far some call it GSM Razr some call them by the 2 or 3 different Razr models, and some just say Razr. What models are being talked about in all the Dev topics really should have a uniform way of dealing with each version or else there is going to be problems.
Like I said if I am wrong then ignore this, but I look at the topics and it gets confusing at times what models are really being talked about or what models are supported by a certain root method. I reiterate, if it doesn't work for the Verizon DROID RAZR then should it actually be posted in this forum at all?
Admins have any take on this? This forum section does state it is for the DROID RAZR.
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It has been already taken into consideration. For starters a good forum management and thread title is required.
BTW, this is in the wrong froum, this is development forum
Moving this to General.
It would be nice to have them separated like all of the other devices. This forum is going to grow and alot of noobs are going to flash wrong roms and fixes. Then developers are going to have a harder time trying to figure out why things are not working. Yes people are supose to read everything but they don't and then a simple thread turns into a hundred pages of trolling and pissed off developers. I am one who does read everything and trust me I came from the Thunderbolt and that forum sucks and it lost alot of good developers do to people that don't read everything. Even the general section, people are asking question and listing problem but not saying what device they have.
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It would be nice to have them separated like all of the other devices. This forum is going to grow and alot of noobs are going to flash wrong roms and fixes. Then developers are going to have a harder time trying to figure out why things are not working. Yes people are supose to read everything but they don't and then a simple thread turns into a hundred pages of trolling and pissed off developers. I am one who does read everything and trust me I came from the Thunderbolt and that forum sucks and it lost alot of good developers do to people that don't read everything. Even the general section, people are asking question and listing problem but not saying what device they have.
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Exactly! This is exactly what I was talking about. I don't want to flash the wrong ROM just because some one didn't label correctly.
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It has been already taken into consideration. For starters a good forum management and thread title is required.
BTW, this is in the wrong froum, this is development forum
Moving this to General.
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Since it was about ROMS and how DEVS list their roms and root methods I felt that it was the correct forum.
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With such a new device, any development is good development. Other devices get by with topics flagged as [GSM] or [CDMA], I don't really see any point in creating a second forum until there's actually enough discussion to merit it. Both currently have locked bootloaders, and aside from Verizon bloatware, the same software setup (The GSM version's software even contains references to Verizon). There may be reason to open a GSM RAZR forum soon, but now - so soon after launch - isn't really it.
People just need to a) Flag threads they start better, and b) Read threads they didn't start properly.
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I need a clarification on the bootloader part. As far as it was announced, the Int'l version of the RAZR is supposed to have an unlocked bootloader whereas the US-only version (AKA Droid Razr) will have a locked boot-loader.
Can anybody confirm this for a fact? Coz I'm in India and I want to buy this but if its got a locked boot-loader here as well, I'll have to re-think.
http://androidadvices.com/motorola-razr-xt910-price-india-slimmest-smartphone/
Now that there is a thread about this, I would like to ask if there is a difference in the total memory allotted to the device. I mean, the Internal and external
memory...I am from India, so will I get a mem card as opposed to a US version?
Thanx! (didn't want to make a thread for this one question...so am asking here.)
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Now that there is a thread about this, I would like to ask if there is a difference in the total memory allotted to the device. I mean, the Internal and external
memory...I am from India, so will I get a mem card as opposed to a US version?
Thanx! (didn't want to make a thread for this one question...so am asking here.)
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You wouldn't get external memory card in Asia version as far as I known.You need to buy it yourself(slot support up to 32GB). Yes, Internal memory is 16GB but you can only use 8GB. The rest 8GB is for application storage (3GB around), system and Webtop...
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You wouldn't get external memory card in Asia version as far as I known.You need to buy it yourself(slot support up to 32GB). Yes, Internal memory is 16GB but you can only use 8GB. The rest 8GB is for application storage (3GB around), system and Webtop...
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Thanx man...but any way I can use the whole of 16?
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Thanx man...but any way I can use the whole of 16?
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Impossible... system storage & applications storage are already in 16GB. For webtop partition, it is possible to access if someone hack it..
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the Xperia play has the 800a(gsm), 800i(gsm) and 800x(cdma)
they seem to survive fine without a separate section for each phone?
I think you just need to pay attention to the tags in the thread, something you can't do by posting this in the development forum....
FrAsErTaG said:
the Xperia play has the 800a(gsm), 800i(gsm) and 800x(cdma)
they seem to survive fine without a separate section for each phone?
I think you just need to pay attention to the tags in the thread, something you can't do by posting this in the development forum....
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I understand this, but there are about 4 or 5 names they are calling the Razr. And they are not always clear what phone people are talking about.
Razr
Moto Razr
Droid Razr
Razr (CDMA)
Razr (GSM)
When some people use the top 3 of this list interchangeably then that is where problems come up. I'm sorry to be that guy, but when I end up rooting my phone I don't want to brick it due to someone using the wrong name for the phone they made the Root/ROM for. Since I am not the only one that has shown that this could in fact become a problem, then maybe it should be looked into a bit further in the next few weeks as ROMS and other root methods come available.
AFAIK, the international version ships with an unlockABLE bootloader. The lock/unlock decision is left up to the carrier, and Verizon has elected to shut down the ability to unlock the bootloader on their devices.
Regarding the two sections... I've already said that to our moderator, but it seems that for now we have to write GSM or CDMA.
I'm sure anyway that when GSM and CDMA RAZR community will grow the admins will give us separate android development sections
Ok, the "How to Root" thread and the various ROM threads are getting confused between those that "unlocked" vrs. "soft-rooted" vrs "hard-rooted" vrs. those that accepted the OTA and those that didn't. Plus we have those that were rooted but tried to unroot before taking the OTA. With the "how to root" thread and others there are instructions that don't work anymore if you took the OTA and, while there may be explanations of the issue, they are burried deep in the thread
What we could use (and hope this thread becomes) is the place for devs to post progress on Rooting the LTE for phones that accepted the OTA and, as methods are developed, people can respond with issues that may arise.
Great idea! Why don't you consolodate all that info, format it nicely, and put it into OP so we can all benefit.
how about people just read properly
without jumping to flash anything that pops up on their screen or clicking every one click method that they see
Or maybe people can be polite and not so judgmental and be helpful instead of walking around thinking your better than everyone else.
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Or maybe people can be polite and not so judgmental and be helpful instead of walking around thinking your better than everyone else.
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And on top of which, there are plenty of people that will be getting the LTE from here on out that will have the new update on it already and those that were waiting to root until an ASOP ROM came out that saw no reason not to accept the OTA since they had not rooted yet.
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Or maybe people can be polite and not so judgmental and be helpful instead of walking around thinking your better than everyone else.
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I don't think you realize how involved it would be to compile that information, present it cleanly, and keep it up to date. I emphasize keep it up to date because this info changes every single day. There are numerous root and unlock methods, most pre-OTA, some partially work post-OTA.
As a non-dev but android enthuisiast, I check relavent threads about once a day to follow progress and even doing that I could never keep up with everything that's going on.
I'll admit my previous post in this thread was a bit snarky but people have to be realistic. Unless someone has the time and dedication to just do it themselves, this request won't happen simply because someone asked for it. If it does happen, the information will just become out of date in less than a week!
Finally, I have some advice for people eager to root and/or flash roms. Sit back and wait a few weeks. HTC just released the kernel source a few days ago and the real magic will start to happen. The new OTA will almost certainly be rooted and unlocked and someone will create a noob-friendly procedure to follow. Your best bet is to watch for updates to the stickied threads in the development section(s).
this rooting and waiting for it for over 10 days, for 257 makes me wonder if i made a mistake in buying this phone as it seems devs are nt interested in this device, I envy now samsung owners as rooting never ever took so long, while we here have to go thru many steps to root 257 which i don't like to do.
Is this an indication of how the dev section especially for important things like rooting will be for every firmware, can somebody do something about this and contact the devs that do dev rooting to help us out.
It's the same story with the Z1. Sony fixed an exploit from the last build, so devs have to find a new one. My guess is that Doomlord and other devs are working on it, and it's clearly hard to find an exploit this time around. They'll get there, but give them some time. The FXP team is also in direct contact with Sony's dev team, and the FreeXperia Cyanogenmod ROM is a result of that collaboration. Why would Sony fix that exploit? Security. Not to screw with the devs, but people with malicious intentions.
Sony is one of the most dev friendly manufacturer out there (with Oppo), and this doesn't change it. They aren't actively trying to stop devs, like another manufacturer that ends with sung.
If you're really in a hurry and need root now, then downgrade to 532 again, root and upgrade again through OTA.
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this rooting and waiting for it for over 10 days, for 257 makes me wonder if i made a mistake in buying this phone as it seems devs are nt interested in this device, I envy now samsung owners as rooting never ever took so long, while we here have to go thru many steps to root 257 which i don't like to do.
Is this an indication of how the dev section especially for important things like rooting will be for every firmware, can somebody do something about this and contact the devs that do dev rooting to help us out.
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One of the most important things to remember on XDA is that its a community of people that want to help. Asking for an ETA, or insisting on a member to find an exploit quickly wont be received well.
This is my first Sony device, and I've found the core members active in this section to be some of the best Ive seen in my time here. Lord for example is almost always one of the first to reply with a helpful comment, Avetny, SpyderTracks... I could go on and on..
anyway like lord says its a new device, and give it time dude.
Thank you
you r right hamdogg i apologise for negative bursts
Official root as in an easy way of rooting or what?
I unlocked the bootloader and rooted instantly.
SweFox said:
Official root as in an easy way of rooting or what?
I unlocked the bootloader and rooted instantly.
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I guess people are waiting for vRoot to be updated. It's straight forward if we're on a firmware before 257, but it becomes a little more complicated if we're not. It's not hard, but it's a little time consuming with all the downloading and installing of software.
I wish we had a simple, one click solution that is made by an XDA dev that knows his/her way around these things so we aren't forced to wait for some "outsiders" to do it for us.
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LordManhattan said:
I guess people are waiting for vRoot to be updated. It's straight forward if we're on a firmware before 257, but it becomes a little more complicated if we're not. It's not hard, but it's a little time consuming with all the downloading and installing of software.
I wish we had a simple, one click solution that is made by an XDA dev that knows his/her way around these things so we aren't forced to wait for some "outsiders" to do it for us.
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True :good:
Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
asubiyyal said:
Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
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Click on your phone info.
Write down the last 3 digits if your build version.
If it is MJ7 enjoy your Samsung iphone or take the risk of Chinese infiltration with vroot.
If its anything else, type go to GOOGLE.COM and type in those 3 letters followed by the word "Root".
Good luck!
Doesn't get much simpler than that.. :sly:
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
asubiyyal said:
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
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You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
k1mu said:
You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
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Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
I have MJ7 also and I've looked at root alternatives and it's risky at best. Let me know if you find a less risky way.
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Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
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The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
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The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
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Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
asubiyyal said:
Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
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Perhaps you could post on one of the T-Mobile threads here and explain what "doesn't work" means, as they may be able to help you.
Non-Verizon SIMs work for me, but I'm not using a SIM from some other US carrier.
asubiyyal said:
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
asubiyyal said:
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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Sorry if you thinking this is "trolling by a veteran user".
First, you need to understand: the i545 is not SIM locked. Any SIM will work.
However, there's some question as to whether or not that SIM will allow other US carriers to work. Mine works with a SIM that gives me AT&T data. (It's from a European carrier.)
Here's how you can answer your question. First, look at the top of this window.
There's a box on the top reading "Search this forum".
I entered "tmobile" there, then got the following threads:
Tmobile sim and samsung galaxy s4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397984
Does the new MJ7 firmware update block GSM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523307
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
T-Mobile HSPA(+) on SCH-I545 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2478411
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
[Q]OOC Verizon S4 on Tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331131
Okay I have a vzw galaxy s4 working in tmobile http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457568
Then, searches for "T-mobile":
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
[Q] T-Mobile on VZW S4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464730
VZW Galaxy S4 can it be use on tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447312&highlight=t-mobile
Probably very useful:
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
Using any one of those will connect you with people trying to use their Verizon phones on T-Mobile.
rshipa 1313
Haha nice work you guys. I will try and then post in couple of days about the above solutions/links you all have given. Thanks again!
joshm.1219 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
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I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
Yes it can be done. Basic strps are to get a
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Sorry. Hit send too early..
Basic steps are to get a sim.
Then go and see if it picked ip the APN settings. If not you should be able to create a new APN and put in the values manually. Search on xda for the values
Finally. Theres a thread in xda that explains how to download a phone info app. Which will allow you to set the phone radio to LTE/GSM.
last thing you want to check is that you can do wifi, sms, mms, voice mail, etc.
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asubiyyal said:
I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
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A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
I really can't explain the purpose of this site any better than this post by Kyphur:
"I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
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A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
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I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
EDIT: P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working. Or maybe I ddnt search the right sections. I'll do XDA search through Google now
asubiyyal said:
I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working.
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I didn't think you were being a rude, but I just thought I would share with you post that explains the purpose of XDA very well. It might seem harsh because it's out of context & was originally directed at some a$$hole.
We were all newbs here, I'm no programmer I just like learning code because I like learning how all of this stuff works. I'm glad you want to start learning to. All I did in the beginning was google search "rooting" and a bunch of write-ups & video's came up that taught me a lot.
I think this all falls under off topic this is really not the place for senior members to try b!+ch slap junior members, staying on topic is how this site operates
Hello all,
This is my first post here at XDA!
So Ive searched so please forgive me as I'm still learning quite a bit.. But having an MK2 GS4 - why am I only limited to using Safestrap and limited ROMS? Currently running Hyperdrive which is great, but found my S3 w/ IllusionRom to be MUCH more customizable and clean.
Again, I'm newer to rooting but why is it that everything seems limited right now? After reading and reading, it appears that developers are sort of dancing around voiding warranty and Knox software.. Will this be resolved at some point? I basically want to have the ability to flash some of these other cool aosp roms, etc. I could care less about voiding warranty's. I want all this stock rom warranty crap off my phone!
Thanks guys!
I'm not a developer, but it is my understanding that an unlocked boot loader is needed for the type of ROMs you want to flash. And the S4's bootloader is locked for every version other than MDK.
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Questions belong in Q and A, and users are expected to use search and read before posting duplicate threads...
here is some help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613161
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570151
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49493081&postcount=6
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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Don't really know how you can expect an answer to your questions. I don't know of anyone on these boards that can see into the future. Will MK2 be unlocked? Doesn't look like it, but who knows. All you can do is keep an eye on the forums and hope for the best.
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rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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This question you are asking has had countless threads and posts devote to the locked bootloader on the S4 since the release of ME7 firmware. Not to get cheesey here but asking if the bootloader willl be unlocked is a ridiculous as no one has an answer to that and dozens of devs have been working on it for months on their spare time. The only mechanism available is safestrap and we are lucky to have that working for us becasue sooner or later that will most likley be blocked down the road. If you want an honest answer, in my view, we probably will not have a bootloader exploit comparable to the one found for MDK. Devs are working on a Kerec exploit but haven't been able to find one yet. Samsung and other cell phone manuf are responding to the Carriers requirements of having an unhackable phones because the enterprise customers are making that a requirement. The hacking community is a factional component of sales and if you want a phone for running custom ROMS, best save your money and get a DEV phone as that is the most likely way to do it.
rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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I have high hopes that some talented person or group will eventually find a work around for this boot loader issue whether safestrap(hashcode) figure out a kexec exploit. Or another Loki type exploit is found. The most current thread on this situation can be found in general and surge1223 is the op. But your right from a custom ROM standpoint the s3 is in a better position. Good luck.
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Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
rmartin346 said:
Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
rmartin346 said:
Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
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Hit up Swappa like I did and grab a MDK S4 and wait for it to come like a Lil kid at Christmas....
Which is what I'm doing. Or jump ship over to like... Sprint and trip your Knox flag and install CWM.
Or... Rob a bank so you can afford a dev edition S4.
Swappa it is..
Lol
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