Has anyone ever talked about or put it as a request to the Mods to split the Razr forum into sub-forums, like have a Razr GSM forum and a Razr CDMA forum? It gets very hard to read every single thread to tell if it is about gsm or cdma. If I may I would like to put this to the mods to help simplify this forum a little. Please.
Mods please, if possible this would help so much.
I too agree with this, as a new member. Separating the GSM phone from the CDMA version will stop issues like flashing the wrong rom, resulting in less threads started asking how to recover from a boot loop or other issues.
This would be a godsend, please make this happen, if CDMA and GSM seemd to tacky then name them Motorola DROID RAZR and Motorola RAZR
AndroidGreg said:
This would be a godsend, please make this happen, if CDMA and GSM seemd to tacky then name them Motorola DROID RAZR and Motorola RAZR
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It's nice to see someone using the correct names.
Just use the codename, Motorola Spyder. Then Subforum for each variant.
Motorola sure will reused Razr name in future device.
But reality is... with more sub-forum, it will create more fragmentations.
Android fragmentation is already bad. Now you all want to split this phone into sections.
The essential part of this phone is almost same, all run the same Application Processor(AP).
You suggestion is already taken into consideration. This is our suggestion in the mean time....
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Usually I'm really good at figuring things out myself, but I've just gotta ask:
What's the difference between the custom ROMs?
I'm using Fresh right now, but I might as well have spun a wheel and picked at random. I tried browsing each thread, but couldn't find any useful hints as to what it's about. Is it just speed?
I understand that 2.1 is under development and not fully functional, so what is MCR, Fresh, Modaco?
MCR and Modaco are the same MCR = Modaco Custom ROM.
It is just a rom made by Paul O'Brien at http://hero.modaco.com
Really it's another custom ROM, just personal preference dictates which you use. Personally, I use MCR3.0, although there is a beta of 3.1 available for ad-free members of his site, and it will be publicly released when ready.
So the difference between Fresh and Modaco is...?
Fresh is a CDMA Rom, so you'd probably be better off asking this in the CDMA subforum.
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Dave
This is the HTC Hero questions and answers forum, so I'm asking here.
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This is the HTC Hero questions and answers forum, so I'm asking here.
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one thankful fella, nice to see...
Thanks for all the relevant information guys! You sure make it easy.
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Thanks for all the relevant information guys! You sure make it easy.
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You could try and search for yourself, or at least be gratefull for the things Anon and others say
You're not gonna ask here how you're able to flash the motorola droid are you?
Cos the cdma hero is another phone. It has a dedicated subforum and people
who own a gsm hero (the folks over here) can't tell the difference because a CDMA version doesn't work on a GSM hero.
It's easy to blame others for not searching yourself, these people are trying to help. The only thing you want is a list of pro's and con's....
Considering custom roms are made to fit personal needs no one is gonna make a list good enough for you.
Search before you ask
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Thanks for all the relevant information guys! You sure make it easy.
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I did! I advised you to ask the question in the subforum for the CDMA Hero, but you decided to ignore that advice.
A little history lesson for you - the Hero forums existed long before the CDMA Hero was released by Sprint. Once Sprint had released their version of the Hero, Sprint users lobbied long and hard for a CDMA subforum (which they've now got). To be honest, the Sprint Hero probably deserved its own set of forums rather than just a subforum, just the Verizon Droid Eris did.
The *reason* that I advised you to go there is because most of the ROM discussions outside of the CDMA subforum is related to the GSM Hero. If you'd flashed MCR 3.1 to your device (as mentioned earlier in this thread), you may well have bricked your device.
Sarcastically saying that "You sure make it easy" when you've been given good advice isn't going to get you very far here!
Regards,
Dave
Sorry guys. Bad week. Cheers for the guidance.
Is it just me or should there be a different forum for just the GSM Razr Developments. So far it looks like there are roots for just one or the other but not a all in one solution for both versions. Correct me if wrong but if this is going end up the case that Roms, and rooting instructions won't work on all versions then since this is the DROID RAZR forum topic then thats what needs to be posted here.
So far some call it GSM Razr some call them by the 2 or 3 different Razr models, and some just say Razr. What models are being talked about in all the Dev topics really should have a uniform way of dealing with each version or else there is going to be problems.
Like I said if I am wrong then ignore this, but I look at the topics and it gets confusing at times what models are really being talked about or what models are supported by a certain root method. I reiterate, if it doesn't work for the Verizon DROID RAZR then should it actually be posted in this forum at all?
Admins have any take on this? This forum section does state it is for the DROID RAZR.
With such a new device, any development is good development. Other devices get by with topics flagged as [GSM] or [CDMA], I don't really see any point in creating a second forum until there's actually enough discussion to merit it. Both currently have locked bootloaders, and aside from Verizon bloatware, the same software setup (The GSM version's software even contains references to Verizon). There may be reason to open a GSM RAZR forum soon, but now - so soon after launch - isn't really it.
People just need to a) Flag threads they start better, and b) Read threads they didn't start properly.
kutster said:
Is it just me or should there be a different forum for just the GSM Razr Developments. So far it looks like there are roots for just one or the other but not a all in one solution for both versions. Correct me if wrong but if this is going end up the case that Roms, and rooting instructions won't work on all versions then since this is the DROID RAZR forum topic then thats what needs to be posted here.
So far some call it GSM Razr some call them by the 2 or 3 different Razr models, and some just say Razr. What models are being talked about in all the Dev topics really should have a uniform way of dealing with each version or else there is going to be problems.
Like I said if I am wrong then ignore this, but I look at the topics and it gets confusing at times what models are really being talked about or what models are supported by a certain root method. I reiterate, if it doesn't work for the Verizon DROID RAZR then should it actually be posted in this forum at all?
Admins have any take on this? This forum section does state it is for the DROID RAZR.
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It has been already taken into consideration. For starters a good forum management and thread title is required.
BTW, this is in the wrong froum, this is development forum
Moving this to General.
It would be nice to have them separated like all of the other devices. This forum is going to grow and alot of noobs are going to flash wrong roms and fixes. Then developers are going to have a harder time trying to figure out why things are not working. Yes people are supose to read everything but they don't and then a simple thread turns into a hundred pages of trolling and pissed off developers. I am one who does read everything and trust me I came from the Thunderbolt and that forum sucks and it lost alot of good developers do to people that don't read everything. Even the general section, people are asking question and listing problem but not saying what device they have.
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It would be nice to have them separated like all of the other devices. This forum is going to grow and alot of noobs are going to flash wrong roms and fixes. Then developers are going to have a harder time trying to figure out why things are not working. Yes people are supose to read everything but they don't and then a simple thread turns into a hundred pages of trolling and pissed off developers. I am one who does read everything and trust me I came from the Thunderbolt and that forum sucks and it lost alot of good developers do to people that don't read everything. Even the general section, people are asking question and listing problem but not saying what device they have.
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Exactly! This is exactly what I was talking about. I don't want to flash the wrong ROM just because some one didn't label correctly.
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It has been already taken into consideration. For starters a good forum management and thread title is required.
BTW, this is in the wrong froum, this is development forum
Moving this to General.
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Since it was about ROMS and how DEVS list their roms and root methods I felt that it was the correct forum.
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With such a new device, any development is good development. Other devices get by with topics flagged as [GSM] or [CDMA], I don't really see any point in creating a second forum until there's actually enough discussion to merit it. Both currently have locked bootloaders, and aside from Verizon bloatware, the same software setup (The GSM version's software even contains references to Verizon). There may be reason to open a GSM RAZR forum soon, but now - so soon after launch - isn't really it.
People just need to a) Flag threads they start better, and b) Read threads they didn't start properly.
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I need a clarification on the bootloader part. As far as it was announced, the Int'l version of the RAZR is supposed to have an unlocked bootloader whereas the US-only version (AKA Droid Razr) will have a locked boot-loader.
Can anybody confirm this for a fact? Coz I'm in India and I want to buy this but if its got a locked boot-loader here as well, I'll have to re-think.
http://androidadvices.com/motorola-razr-xt910-price-india-slimmest-smartphone/
Now that there is a thread about this, I would like to ask if there is a difference in the total memory allotted to the device. I mean, the Internal and external
memory...I am from India, so will I get a mem card as opposed to a US version?
Thanx! (didn't want to make a thread for this one question...so am asking here.)
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Now that there is a thread about this, I would like to ask if there is a difference in the total memory allotted to the device. I mean, the Internal and external
memory...I am from India, so will I get a mem card as opposed to a US version?
Thanx! (didn't want to make a thread for this one question...so am asking here.)
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You wouldn't get external memory card in Asia version as far as I known.You need to buy it yourself(slot support up to 32GB). Yes, Internal memory is 16GB but you can only use 8GB. The rest 8GB is for application storage (3GB around), system and Webtop...
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You wouldn't get external memory card in Asia version as far as I known.You need to buy it yourself(slot support up to 32GB). Yes, Internal memory is 16GB but you can only use 8GB. The rest 8GB is for application storage (3GB around), system and Webtop...
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Thanx man...but any way I can use the whole of 16?
circleofomega said:
Thanx man...but any way I can use the whole of 16?
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Impossible... system storage & applications storage are already in 16GB. For webtop partition, it is possible to access if someone hack it..
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the Xperia play has the 800a(gsm), 800i(gsm) and 800x(cdma)
they seem to survive fine without a separate section for each phone?
I think you just need to pay attention to the tags in the thread, something you can't do by posting this in the development forum....
FrAsErTaG said:
the Xperia play has the 800a(gsm), 800i(gsm) and 800x(cdma)
they seem to survive fine without a separate section for each phone?
I think you just need to pay attention to the tags in the thread, something you can't do by posting this in the development forum....
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I understand this, but there are about 4 or 5 names they are calling the Razr. And they are not always clear what phone people are talking about.
Razr
Moto Razr
Droid Razr
Razr (CDMA)
Razr (GSM)
When some people use the top 3 of this list interchangeably then that is where problems come up. I'm sorry to be that guy, but when I end up rooting my phone I don't want to brick it due to someone using the wrong name for the phone they made the Root/ROM for. Since I am not the only one that has shown that this could in fact become a problem, then maybe it should be looked into a bit further in the next few weeks as ROMS and other root methods come available.
AFAIK, the international version ships with an unlockABLE bootloader. The lock/unlock decision is left up to the carrier, and Verizon has elected to shut down the ability to unlock the bootloader on their devices.
Regarding the two sections... I've already said that to our moderator, but it seems that for now we have to write GSM or CDMA.
I'm sure anyway that when GSM and CDMA RAZR community will grow the admins will give us separate android development sections
I am new to the motorola Droid. I just switched to Verizon from Sprint, and have a Razr Max XT912. Even though I am not new to Android systems (HTC Evo3D). I want to root my Droid but need help. What is the best way to do this? All links and help is greatly appreciated.
"All Throttle-No Bottle"
Reading usually helps
Try the stickies here, I am sure they will be of some help to you
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Reading usually helps
Try the stickies here, I am sure they will be of some help to you
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Been reading off and on today but can't really seem to find any guide on anything that is need for first root. Ok not trying to sound rude but there does not seem to be much help in these threads here for someone not familiar with a device.
"All Throttle-No Bottle"
I have an Atrix 2 (GSM). I am wondering if anyone could help us out over there.. I can't post this question there because nobody there know's how to do this lol. We are trying to get ics on the Atrix 2 and porting aokp from the Droid 3 works near flawlessly. Everything works except for calling/SMS/data the usual, well obviously because it is a cdma device and the Atrix 2 is a GSM device. These ports are stable enough for daily use if only we could figure out a way to convert them to take advantage of the GSM radio...
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I have an Atrix 2 (GSM). I am wondering if anyone could help us out over there.. I can't post this question there because nobody there know's how to do this lol. We are trying to get ics on the Atrix 2 and porting aokp from the Droid 3 works near flawlessly. Everything works except for calling/SMS/data the usual, well obviously because it is a cdma device and the Atrix 2 is a GSM device. These ports are stable enough for daily use if only we could figure out a way to convert them to take advantage of the GSM radio...
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In my google travels trying to figure out how to get our gsm working for our amaze cm9 I found some stuff that may help you.. I haven't played with the atrix enough to know which part may be useful, but this one might be a little cryptic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445607 while this one may or may NOT apply at all http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623640
And something that I know will help if you haven't done it, make sure the lines of the build.prop that point to your /system/lib files have been properly changed, an example would be "rild.libpath=/system/lib/libril-qc-qmi-1.so" for our phone..
I have found TONS of info out there(none that helps me) that may help you get this working, rather than search thru xda try searching google with something like this " site:forum.xda-developers.com getting gsm working android" that will only search xda, but then you could add things like "-htc" to remove results you DON'T need(like that would remove anything with HTC in it).. <-- that is the best way to search, you NARROW down your results till you find something helpful!
I have no idea if any of this will help, but good luck! I still have to check to see why we can't get our radio working with our cm9 port..
Being a Member of XDA for a while now I recall in the past on different models that XDA use to create sub-forums for Carrier Variants. I.E. Verizon, Sprint, GSM based. This was helpful for the noobs and Rom creators in making sure that Noobs didn't flash the incorrect Rom or Recovery.
Looking at the HTC One Max forums there occasionally is this confusion as members will post a general variant specific issues and a novice not knowing the difference would unintentionally use it thinking it applied to their device. Some Devs don't identify there Roms or indicate a variant which contributes to the issue.
I think it would be very beneficial for development on this device to have Variant based sub forums. Additionally having variant based sub-forums will help identify Underdeveloped devices.
Just my 2 cents.
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Some Devs don't identify there Roms or indicate a variant which contributes to the issue.
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I'm sure when we get way more than 3 threads in original and 3 in development they will look at dividing the Max forum. Until then we need anyone that posts anything to ensure they identify what model it will work on. I believe most of the development done for us thus far does not identify which model it works for because it works across all (in one form or another).
To be honest most if not all of the issues people have had thus far is because they are not searching and reading to understand something before they do it. I guarantee a dev or someone with knowledge will try to help the best they can. BUT no one wants to help someone that doesn't try to help themselves by understanding what they are doing first.
If anyone notices that some development is device specific and it is not labeled as such then ping the dev and ask that they identify it appropriately. And if anyone feels strongly enough that something is not labeled or mislabeled that could end up causing issues with someone's device then AFTER ASKING THE OP to update feel free to contact one of our mods to correct or close the thread until it is adjusted. Many hands make light work...
i can see both points here
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i can see both points here
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I can see the point as well. But it will be a while before the forums are divided if at all. I said "until then" because we all need to work together now to police the threads to make sure things are made clear if they are not.
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I can see the point as well. But it will be a while before the forums are divided if at all. I said "until then" because we all need to work together now to police the threads to make sure things are made clear if they are not.
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yeah i know what you mean. we clearly need more roms and development before anything gets split up
oneandroidnut said:
yeah i know what you mean. we clearly need more roms and development before anything gets split up
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I know coming from the Motorola Droid HD forums that the impact of not separating them is lots of "Learning Experiences". I am quite learned in the rooting/bootlocker experience and even I was confused by the variants in that forum. I got it sorted out but it took longer then is should have.
I am in the process of learning java and android development and I plan on properly labeling my threads and apps. Oh and Blender for Custom Boot Animations. I have a Plan for A Doctor Who based Animation.
Plus I like tidiness and organization. Makes things more efficient.
How do I tell which version of the One Max I have?
It's one of the 32 gig versions, it's gsm and works on United states ATT. baseband version is 4T,27.3218.14_10.33C.1718.01L Software number says 3.15.1540.1 I think it might be the Hong Kong or British one, but it's been quite confusing trying to figure out which is which. I bought it off Amazon, so I know there's a chance that the software has been "improved' a bit.
Thanks for any help-I did try to search on it, but wasn't finding anything with useful info for me, or possibly I just don't know where to look. It's been some few years since I had an HTC..I bought the original G1 on opening day
Any help, or even just a point in the right direction would be most appreciated. I'd like to get this sucker rooted and get rid of the crapware as soon as possible