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will i still get speed boost if i root my phone and running the official JI6 rom?
I've seen a lot of good roms in there but i still want to stick to JI6 a little longer and wait till the froyo comes in and that's the time maybe i'll flash a custom rom.
Rooting by itself wont make any difference. Installing Juice Defender might, keeping in 2G unless you really need 3G for something will help. Using a black background will help some. Not using apps that pull data every 30 seconds and changing it to 15 minutes will help a lot.
i'm sorry, i think you're talking about the battery performance of the phone. what i'm talking about is the overall performance of the phone, so you're saying that if i rooted my phone it won't make any difference in the speed of the phone?
Rooting makes NO difference to ANYTHING on your phone. The only difference it makes is it allows applications which require root to WORK (otherwise they will not work). Other than that, it allows you to flash different roms and mods on the phone. It does NO changes to the phone itself as far as performance goes.
Furthermore, most of the custom roms out now are BASED on the OTA JI6 official ROM with optimizations, tweaks, and mods to:
a. improve performance and speed of the phone
b. improve responsiveness
c. increase battery life
d. offer support for themes and mods to allow you to customize it to how YOU want it to look and behave.
All of the custom roms WILL improve the speed of the phone. If you install a lagfix (voodoo, ext2-based, or another one), it will at the very least triple or quadriple the responsiveness you get from the menus and loading. Combine that with a custom ROM and your Vibrant will be FLYING fast.
JUST make sure you follow ALL instructions for installations to be safe.
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Rooting makes NO difference to ANYTHING on your phone. The only difference it makes is it allows applications which require root to WORK (otherwise they will not work). Other than that, it allows you to flash different roms and mods on the phone. It does NO changes to the phone itself as far as performance goes.
Furthermore, most of the custom roms out now are BASED on the OTA JI6 official ROM with optimizations, tweaks, and mods to:
a. improve performance and speed of the phone
b. improve responsiveness
c. increase battery life
d. offer support for themes and mods to allow you to customize it to how YOU want it to look and behave.
All of the custom roms WILL improve the speed of the phone. If you install a lagfix (voodoo, ext2-based, or another one), it will at the very least triple or quadriple the responsiveness you get from the menus and loading. Combine that with a custom ROM and your Vibrant will be FLYING fast.
JUST make sure you follow ALL instructions for installations to be safe.
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Honestly.... lagfix doesn't seem to speed anything up for me (Voodoo or Ryan). It improves the Quadrant score... that's about it as far as I can tell. Some people swear by them. The biggest speed improvement is to make sure not to have battery-hogging apps, not lots of widgets on the homescreen, and use Zeam launcher. The hassle of having to remove Voodoo each and every time you want to flash, or having bugs that come along with the ext2 lagfixes to me just don't seem worth it.
At the end of the day, if I start to think the Vibrant isn't fast... I just borrow my old MT3G from the roommate and use it. For about 10 seconds. Then I throw it back at him.
Thanks for explaining these things to me, I have searched the uses of rooting and it says that there's speed boost. I thought that rooting alone will speed the performance of the phone.
I guess I will not root my phone(not yet for now) cause I'll be waiting for froyo first.
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Thanks for explaining these things to me, I have searched the uses of rooting and it says that there's speed boost. I thought that rooting alone will speed the performance of the phone.
I guess I will not root my phone(not yet for now) cause I'll be waiting for froyo first.
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If you want speed, then install one of the custom roms. If you want to take full control on your phone, then root the phone.
My 2 cents, the devs in this forum will have a full stable working 2.2 for Vibrant before Tmobile.
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If you want speed, then install one of the custom roms. If you want to take full control on your phone, then root the phone.
My 2 cents, the devs in this forum will have a full stable working 2.2 for Vibrant before Tmobile.
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Yeah i know that now, but i'll wait for froyo first before i go with custom roms.
According to other users in the GSB v1.2 thread, they're getting speeds better than any Froyo they've used. I've done all of the suggested steps, including following the install instructions to a T, and "JIT on, home in memory, Comp cache RAM 18% default, heap size 24m,CPU 245/768." However, I'm still finding that it's noticeably slower than Nonsensikal 16.1. I can see lag in scrolling menus, scrolling in the browser, and typing on the keyboard. Am I doing something wrong, or should I just wait for CM7 to get more mature and try again?
Could be a number of things; number of apps running, types of apps you run, leaky memory app, how many widgets, excess cache, GPS and BT on, how you use your phone, leftover data from sdcard, which governor you're using.
Hiccups are to be expected. Are you lagging all the time? After exiting a particular app?
Apples to apples is kinda difficult to assess, especially on something that is measured subjectively.
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This is based on my immediate impression after a fresh install of the rom, and has more to do with the speed and responsiveness of the UI than with apps. I can see some lag, particularly window animations and keyboard responsiveness, as soon as I install. I did a full wipe of data/cache/sdcard before installing GSB.
After I tweaked some things like bumping up the CPU max speed, setting smartass governor, and just letting it "warm up" for a while, it does run faster. Still not quite as fast though.
I suspect things will get better with later releases of CM7... I'll wait and try again in a bit.
Well yeah. Most Froyo roms are 710Mhz by default, GSB is 578Mhz.
So just clock for clock, its slower.
But no one installs a custom rom only to leave it at default. Tweak man, tweak! Leave no setting unturned.
For comparison sake, install an early version of Kaos gingerbread.
Or compare an early Froyo.
What alot of people are excited about is, as a 3rd release of a brand new rom, it should be practically unusable. But its totally stable and smooth enough for an everyday OS.
I find performs better than Froyo in most every way. There's room for improvements and bugs to fix, but CM7 has been out on the Eris for less than a week. And the. CM team is a ways away from an official stable release.
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
KFroyo had the same responses even though until about rev21 it was pretty slow and buggy.
You're just immune to the placebo.
As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
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It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
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LOL
And usually within only the first hour of using it.
Same thing with flashing radios - "OMG, I can't believe how much better my signal is." (Not.)
Well, it's the internet; it is what it is. Come one, come all.
strayed from the path, master
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As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
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I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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Word. Totally agree!
I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
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Haha yeah, that's me too Back to Nonsensikal 16.1 (so fast!!!) for the time being. I'm psyched to check out GSB again in a few weeks though, as I was extremely impressed over all!
I only find the Home Screens' loading the gadgets slowly, the rest of the interface is amazingly stabled and fast for 1.2 release.
BTW: what I did found weird is the Dialer. The buttons outline does not show up?
Is this just the built or a bug?
bump.
anything?
1.2 Seriously?
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So I'll take a stab... while the earlier comments are valid (placebo effect by those trying new ROMs) I have to say GSB feels significantly quicker to me that the 2.1 ROM I was running.
You need to let a ROM settle down before knowing how responsive it is. I usually use it for an hour or two, then reboot. After a reboot or two, all seems settled down, the apps re-downloaded and installed, the links all set up and so forth. So if you're interested in trying gingerbread, install GSB (now version 2.1) and use it for several days at least before making a judgment.
Eris running GSBv2.1
If you can do without the animations I would say just turn those off and cut your home screens down to three. Personally when I had an Eris I only ever had one screen. And I only ever had one widget which was my weather and toggle flip clock. Also I noticed that if I ever did kick the CPU past 604 it would get a bit laggy. Shed told you in the OP his Rom was optimized for 604. Basically I've noticed with these GB roms is if you don't need it or ain't gonna use it then turn it off or remove it. Obviously you know, YOU know, lol that no Rom will be quick out the box. You gotta give them time and restart a couple of times to get everything leveled out.
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Hello everyone! I am currently on eclipse vs7(great rom nitro!!)and was curious as to which performance scripts are needed. Which scripts are redundant to run together and so forth. There are quite a few and I wanna make sure they don't interfere w each other. I think if we could get some kind of list going, it may help some of us less savvy get the best performance from our phones. Thank you all in advance and especially the devs in these forums!!
+1 ^^....good question boss
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Hello everyone! I am currently on eclipse vs7(great rom nitro!!)and was curious as to which performance scripts are needed. Which scripts are redundant to run together and so forth. There are quite a few and I wanna make sure they don't interfere w each other. I think if we could get some kind of list going, it may help some of us less savvy get the best performance from our phones. Thank you all in advance and especially the devs in these forums!!
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I have been running .7 RC1 since it came out. I mixed and matched scripts till i found the ones that seemed to work the best together. Some of them are from Speedy v4 and the rest come included in the eclipse rom. I also modified the final minifrees in the eclipse script to output what I have found to work the best. I have included the actual files in a zip for you to open and view. after booting into eclipse i used root explorer to replace the ones in the init folder with these. let me know if you have any other questions about it.
Thank you..
Thank you very much!! I unzipped and moved to init d folder. Do I need to change permissions or is that all set? Also I kept the sd read ahead, just for giggles. Thanks again. This post has had quite a few views and not many bites lol. I suspect there are many like me, whom have the flashing down. Just don't know the realities of what all this stuff does.
I usually go into bootloader and set the permissions under advanced just to make sure. and then i reboot a couple of times to get it ironed out. these scripts together might have some redundancies but ive been running them for 71 hrs. straight without a reboot and my phone feels like it is still running fresh from a reboot. the only thing that I change manually is the minifrees after boot. they were embedded so deep inside the scripts i didnt want to mess anything up. Here are the minifrees I use which i set at boot with autokiller memory optimizer - 6,12,82,89,97,125. these are the minifrees that zeppelinrox recommends for the droid x2. i used to use the v6 supercharger but i find that when i do it conflicts with the scripts and causes lag on my phone. probably because v6 requires 1.18.4 or lower busybox where eclipse roms come with 1.19 imbedded. enjoy
Any update on how this set of scripts is working out for you? I was also wondering how is your battery life running these scripts?
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as far as battery life is concerned I can go an entire day of moderate to heavy use without having to charge my phone once. lag is pretty much non existent for the most part. the maximum battery life I got was a day in a half without having to charge my droid...
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All that you need is supercharger and most of 01tweaks. The rest of the scripts dont do anything. Gingerbread already zipaligns apks, the renicing script gives insane values, the minmem script is part of supercharger and the cpu scaling script doesnt work because the kernel ignores the values.
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I don't use all the scripts from speedy just some. I know that everything is zipalligned already I just kept the script cause it didn't hurt anything. I don't use the supercharger script or the renice. If you look in the zip that was attached it will show you the actual files I included.
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I don't use all the scripts from speedy just some. I know that everything is zipalligned already I just kept the script cause it didn't hurt anything. I don't use the supercharger script or the renice. If you look in the zip that was attached it will show you the actual files I included.
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sorry i will do that i was at work and posting from my phone
i just looked. 03cpufreq does anything. change the values then run cputuner and look the kernel doesnt listen. 98tweaks is a worse/conflicting versions of 01tweaks, 75zipalign doesnt do anything and i dont see the point of clearing the dalvik cache every boot since its being caches to speed of the vm
Hmmm well together my phone is faster than separate. I tested them separately extensively. Never noticed any conflicts in real world performance
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I found in my tests that no scripts need to be added to version7 eclipse. The two he put in are all u need. Nothing really made it better. A couple scripts actually dropped my gaming.index on smartbench (scheduler change and sysctl I think were culprit) it adequate the gljellyfish drop to 22fps which I also could notice when watching movies it constantly got really pixilated and blurry. So I just left it be eclipse is amazing without any extra tweaks imho.
Sadly tho I am not rooted right now. Im just gonna bite the bullet and see what happens. Maybe. Still haven't completly made my.mind.up on this subject.
Yesterday I decided to delete all scripts. To be honest I think the phone runs better without them. My battery imo last the same and phone runs w no lag. I believe this is due to eclipse v7, which is awesome work nitro!! Im going to run this for awhile and than try it w speedy v4 to see if it makes a difference or not. I am beginning to believe it is a placebo effect, but we'll see. Not trying to discount the hard work that I cannot even fathom, writing these scripts!!! Just being curious....
Which were the original two scripts? Just wondering because I flashed 0vermind's scripts and if they don't work I would like to change them back.
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The scripts in question is speedy version 4 and the scripts included with eclipse. I actually took the advice of the other person who just posted and deleted all the scripts in the init folder. I think he is right the rom runs better without any scripts or so it seems. I'll keep testing and feel it out
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Which were the original two scripts? Just wondering because I flashed 0vermind's scripts and if they don't work I would like to change them back.
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Its not that they don't work. Im sure they do what they are supposed to do. Just that they aren't really necessary imho. Some of the things they do CAN help. But its not needed.
I believe eclipse 7 came only with cpufreq and 98tweaks. Tho they are different than the ones with those names included in script flash tweaks.
Go into the eclipse zip you downloaded and press folders /system>etc>init.d to see what was initially included with the eclipse u r running. U can extract(w/ root explorer) and out em into init.d and fix permission and owner and be good to go.(owners are root and permission is rw-r--r--)
I feel like if a script could make eclipse better nitrogen would have include it. The other ones were there in older eclipse but have been removed. And I think that is one reason why newest eclipse runs so buttery smooth and great. Nitrogen is an amazing dev. Trust his work and his tests IMHO
No doubt on nitro being one of the best devs ever. And I do trust him. I just like messing with things... Its in my nature lol. I'm trying to raise money to get him a bionic so he can develop eclipse for my bionic. Trust me after going through soooo many roms on so many phones eclipse is by far one of my absolute favorites.... And nitro just rocks in general
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Yeah its in my nature also.
And I wanna add that I am NOT downplaying these init.d tweaks. I just knowbthat one or two of en made my phone worse. I have a feeling it was scheduler going to noop. Maybe a deadline scheduleer should be tried. I just know that even the way smartbench looked changed when that script wad in. And I know I know benchmarks don't mean.much blah blah blah. But my real life tests confirmed the smartvench results.
I also want to add that I am sure these little bugs and things will be worked out and scripts WILL provide enhancements as long as the devs take note to this type of feedback as a way to improve the scripts. I have faith in ALL devs who push for x2 excellence THANK YOU ALL!!!
+1 to that
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Its not that they don't work. Im sure they do what they are supposed to do. Just that they aren't really necessary imho. Some of the things they do CAN help. But its not needed.
I believe eclipse 7 came only with cpufreq and 98tweaks. Tho they are different than the ones with those names included in script flash tweaks.
Go into the eclipse zip you downloaded and press folders /system>etc>init.d to see what was initially included with the eclipse u r running. U can extract(w/ root explorer) and out em into init.d and fix permission and owner and be good to go.(owners are root and permission is rw-r--r--)
I feel like if a script could make eclipse better nitrogen would have include it. The other ones were there in older eclipse but have been removed. And I think that is one reason why newest eclipse runs so buttery smooth and great. Nitrogen is an amazing dev. Trust his work and his tests IMHO
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Thanks a bunch! This helped a lot. You also provided a moment of clarity... why bother adding in a bunch of other scripts when Nitro, a guy who clearly knows what he is doing, found it ideal to have just these! Not trying to discourage any of you other developers that are hard at work but like they say if it ain't broke don't fix it!
To go 2+ days without freezing and/or randomly rebooting?
Lol huh? I don't have this problem ever...
So far:
Deck ROM: yes, could go weeks without rebooting.
CleanROM: yes, only had it about 2 days but no problems
Synergy: no, tried every kernel and it wouldnt go more than about 12 hours without a hard crash.
About all I've tried at length
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Nope. And it always screws up when I need it the most.
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My personal ROM has actually never needed a reboot or crashed.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Every ROM I've ran except some of myn's nightlies were completely stable.
Synergy - very stable
Cyanogenmod - seems to be the stablest
InfectedROM - Kind of stable
Myn's 2.3 - Not really stable, but these are experimental nightly builds we have
If it reboots randomly and freezes a lot, there is most likely too many apps running or similar stuff that is causing that. I use my phone heavily and have never experienced reboots/freezes/shutoffs.
Steelh never had an issue works for days before reboot just to clean up
Gotcha, nice replies guys.
I refuse to run ROMs with several broken things, aside from AOSP, which is understandable.
Cm7 on airplane mode. No service so im good with wifi. 3D movies. ONLY reboot I ever had was adding 2000 songs to my sdcard. Phone couldnt handle it for 10 minutes. Then it scanned properly and good to go again.
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Basically, the reason I'm asking is because virtually every single frequently updated Sense ROM in the development section is full of issues people are having. I'm trying to understand why they are so popular if they are riddled with issues every other update. Do people not enjoy stable phones? I've been running the same ROM since July and to this day there isn't a single 'new' feature that has been implemented in ROMs these days that I don't want. If there happens to be one, it doesn't need a full flash.
My question is: Why are so many people using Sense ROMs that have nothing but issues and stuff that doesn't work properly? Since HTC has already provided a fairly solid foundation with the Stock ROM, how are so many Sense ROMs broken?
If the answer is aesthetics and looks, why not take a stable ROM, and work from there to get the look you want?
I'm also trying to understand the mind of a "Flashaholic" and besides AOSP or MIUI, there doesn't seem to be enough differences between these Sense ROMs other than kernels and random fiddling with the framework that really differentiate them. For a person that understands how ROMs work and can easily determine the core differences between them, I can tell you exactly what differences that ROM A has from ROM B, and yet, the user opinion is much wider.
Take for instance ROM A, which has a cute tagline in its title and is made by a 'veteran' so to speak. The changelog and file-by-file difference between that and ROM B, made by a seemingly unknown person are pretty small, but the audience seems to think ROM A is much more 'stable' and 'fast' than ROM B.
Aside from messing with the framework, I have done side-by-side comparisons of where most of the ROMs features claim to shine--its tweaks to memory, ram usage, cpu, kernel, etc; which reside mostly in the /system/etc folder and under build.prop and the differences are so small and most of the tweaks are identical. With that said, framework 'tweaks' make a minimal difference in every day situations and most phones will perform almost identical to the Stock ROM. The real differences lie in random build.prop tweaks and init.d scripts which mostly come from poorly documented sites and sources that were meant for Desktop computers and/or older phones like the G1 and can actually have a negative effect on our current phone's performance. I'm sure HTC has done enough research that their method of ROM delivery is probably optimal for most people.
At any rate, I'm interested in more discussion from the people in this thread.
Id like to try your dualcore mod with 1st core at 700mhz and 2nd core at 500mhz. Can you make the file for me? But is it possible to get a screen off profile with it?
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I have flashed before due to aesthetics but now I'm on a hunt for a smoother (stutter free) rom. I also like having extra settings that some offer like synergys, and Eternity, and having beats is a plus although not necessary. The closest I've gotten is Eternity 1.3.1 w/stock look along with Tiamat sense 1.0.3 kernel and flashable script by Smokin. Smokins script made a difference in smoothness for me specially in the app drawer. The only issue that plagues my phone is intermittent black screen during calls.
Other reason I flash is sometimes I get tired of things and want something new to play with. Makes me feel I have a new device.
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Id like to try your dualcore mod with 1st core at 700mhz and 2nd core at 500mhz. Can you make the file for me? But is it possible to get a screen off profile with it?
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I can pretty much build a script that can accomplish this
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I have flashed before due to aesthetics but now I'm on a hunt for a smoother (stutter free) rom. I also like having extra settings that some offer like synergys, and Eternity, and having beats is a plus although not necessary. The closest I've gotten is Eternity 1.3.1 w/stock look along with Tiamat sense 1.0.3 kernel and flashable script by Smokin. Smokins script made a difference in smoothness for me specially in the app drawer. The only issue that plagues my phone is intermittent black screen during calls.
Other reason I flash is sometimes I get tired of things and want something new to play with. Makes me feel I have a new device.
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That I can understand, but with the differences between Sense ROMs being so small, why? I suppose looks is a good enough reason as any, especially if you don't know how or feel like trying to extract the apks or images needed to make your current ROM look like the ROM you're installing.
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I can pretty much build a script that can accomplish this
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Thanks. Im on cm7. Do I send you this build.prop or init.d or something? Also I use setcpu, im guessing I wont be able to use it anymore? Screen off profile would be 192-384mhz
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Senseless I get way better 4g coverage than any other ROM I've tried. With others my 4g would go on and off every 3-4 minutes. It really bugged me out.
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I flash roms to have wireless tether mainly. Recently i like using sprint hotspot and it ia easier to flash a modified stock rom instead of tracking down the flashable hack. Other than staying up to date with software without breaking root, i dont see a reason not to be stock rooted. I buy htc for sense so aosp roms just arent for me. Im running infected eternity 1.4.1 and love the themed look just because it seperatea me from the rest if the world, if i wanted to fit a mold i would be rocking that girly iphone.
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Freeza,
What ROM are you using?
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Synergy - very stable
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First time I've heard anyone claim synergy is stable. Even the synergy devs have given up trying to get non stock kernels to run reliably with it and have recommended limping along by flashing the stock kernel over the included one until the ROM can be fixed.
As to why so many problems: I think half of it is kernel compatibility and half is in the baking. Some bake in the latest version of this or that apk that hasn't been thoroughly tested. Market 3.2 is a good example. Doesn't work: can't buy paid apps. Same problems occur with other apps like all the borked superuser updates between 3.0.2 and 3.0.6. So with all the pushing to include the latest versions of every low level app baked into the ROM, of course there will be some mismatches.
Not a fan of AOSP ROMs. Most of those don't have 20% of the stuff working like 4g, 3d camera, and other stuff. Most say right at the top, "dont expect this to work... Or that to work". No thanks.
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Could dual cores always being on cause damage to the phone?
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Sooo.. I'm not a fan of the crazy supermod kernels that add "tweaks" that improve only synthetic scores but kill your battery and are actually worse performing in real-world apps and cause other issues.
But damn, HTC has a HORRIBLE Bluetooth bitrate on A2DP. It's not the phone because one time I had a random ROM that had it sounding perfect, but whatever crap HTC has in there stock is awful.
Can anyone recommend one that doesn't do all the crazy stuff like SD/RAM "tweaks" but maybe only has things like dimmed capacatative buttons and the updated BT A2DP bitrate?
Or if I have to do this myself, what's a good way to get started?
Come on, no one?
Answer: Do it your self. Brah
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Answer: Do it your self. Brah
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He wasn't asking someone to developed a kernel, he was simply asking if one exists. Way to be a ****. I seriously have a hard time dealing with all the bull**** in the 3D forums.
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Can anyone recommend one that doesn't do all the crazy stuff like SD/RAM "tweaks" but maybe only has things like dimmed capacatative buttons and the updated BT A2DP bitrate?
Or if I have to do this myself, what's a good way to get started?
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I compiled a stock kernel with only dim leds and notification light blinking changed. If you tell me exactly what to change for the BT A2DP bitrate (or point to a kernel that has that change as a commit on github, etc), I'll do it for you.
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He wasn't asking someone to developed a kernel, he was simply asking if one exists. Way to be a ****. I seriously have a hard time dealing with all the bull**** in the 3D forums.
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Read the last sentence. Kthxbye lol
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ANYWAY.
Thanks mwalt. I'm actually using your kernel now with Clean/Senseless ROMs. I prefer no crazy crap in there, so I appreciate changing a few things that make sense and aren't experimental theoretical improvements.
My request is real though
Here's a big long thread about it, actually, to show I'm not crazy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-708685.html
Now.. to answer your question on where or what to change, after reading all that, I'm not sure I have an answer for you.
I know that the ROM in this thread works just fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316039
But of course, being CM7 based, it's still missing many things I need. Oddly though, unlike CM7 alpha, the BT audio worked just fine.
Saneless One said:
I know that the ROM in this thread works just fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316039
But of course, being CM7 based, it's still missing many things I need. Oddly though, unlike CM7 alpha, the BT audio worked just fine.
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Do you happen to know what kernel empiire's rom is running? He doesn't say or give a source that I saw by quickly looking. I don't know enough to dig through the code myself and find it.
all my kernels have new / faster BT drivers...
GSM AOSP - pending
GSM SENSE - DONE
CDMA SENSE - DONE
CDMA AOSP = done
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318005
chad.goodman knows what he is doing!
I use the stockAnthraX kernel and it has just the right amount of tweaks that I need. Actually, I don't even think of them as tweaks...just making the phone do what it was designed to do.
Flash it...you won't regret it!
Just noticed mwalt had posted in here....his kernels were going to be my other suggestion! Both of them do quality work.
mwalt: The kernel for empires says it's from toastcfh, evo 3d #25 dirty. Something like that. I'm going from memory since I only flashed it to see if Bluetooth sounded good. And it sure did sound good. I have a few songs that are always an issue with HTCs settings and they were perfect.
I'll try out Chad's kernel to see if it's a kernel or other settings issue. If it's kernel, I'll have to research, hopefully with some help, where the setting truly is.
I've yet to check out how chad's performs in the car, but I have zero interest in overclocking anything. FSB, CPU, GPU, anything. This phone doesn't get the best battery life in general, and I have zero issues with 1.2ghz, so I see no reason to go higher. I use apps instead of just benchmarking, and those all work just great. In fact, some ROMS even set things back with tweaks that look good on paper (benchmarks) but actually break things like SD card read/write latency.
I personally recommend chad.goodman's kernals. I have flashed different kernals and different roms, testing each rom with each kernal. His always gave a better benchmark score, while remaining the most stable. I know that's not what your looking for however. Since that "phase" that I was going through flashing 4-6 roms a day, I have since stuck with flashing a new rom every few days to try them out. But I always, ONLY, flash his stock kernal, because it seems to me to make the phone run exactly as it should. I don't overclock or tweak it in any way, or use any apps to do so.
So basically I would say flash his stock kernal, don't worry about overclocking it or doing anything to change it, and try it out for a few days. I think you'll be pretty happy with the outcome.
Edit: I play games for 1-3 hours a day on my phone, text constantly and use the phone for everything it has, and I get 18-26 hours per charge. The rom I had stuck with mostly(Or always go back to) is CleanROM DE with his kernal, which now includes it.
I'd prefer not to OC, but the kernel has it set for 1.5 by default.
CleanROM DE isn't bad, but some of the tweaks cause real-world issues despite possible score gains. For instance, the SD Card speed fix actually slows down read/write rates in any real-world usages and even makes songs skip. The latency is horrible with that script in particular.
I have played multiple albums without running into any problems myself. All of my music is 320 CBR, and I use the stock music player. As far as score gains, I haven't ran a benchmark on this rom. I've gotten to where I just want a good stable rom, regardless of the benchmark scores, and of course one that works for me. I'm not saying it's your phone or SD Card, but honestly I haven't ran into any issues with the read or writing of my card. I'm also using the SD Card that came with the phone which I believe is class 4. I'm getting out of where I "know what I'm talking about" but it could also be the process you follow when flashing. I feel like I go through alot of un-needed steps while flashing roms/kernals. I flash a combination of different Wiping tools that format and optimize(Synergy Wipe for example) the partitions in EXT4. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it, but I can honestly say I haven't ran into any latency issues and especially no song skipping, even with the phone under heavy load(Music+Games/3DGames+Sometimes an open web tab or two and texting).
It could all just come down to each phone is different, even though they have the same hardware. Just like with PCs.
As far as OCing, I may not be correct(I'm probably not), but from what I read on chad.goodmans post along with others, the processor is approved/supported to run up to 1.512 by QUALCOMM, although it seems HTC says 1.188.
I'm not an expert on this at all, and if this isn't correct let me know. I'm just talking from experience and from my understandings of reading around on the forums.
Trust me, I try multiple things multiple times so I can single out the source of issues
Without SD Card tweak init.d scripts everything is fine. Introduce them into the mix, songs, album art, and the phone in general runs slow as it waits to build up the buffer before reading/writing. Now, benchmarks don't show this because during that buffer time there's no reading/writing so it's not measuring it. Once it actually writes it's slightly faster, but you can clearly see that the test is stalling out and it takes a LOT longer to complete.
As for chad's OC, I realize he's just doing what the chip is rated at, I'm not worried that he's got things set to some bad level, I just also realize that the chip is underclocked probably to save battery, and I'm fine with that speed so I'll take the power savings.
And finally.. the Anthrax kernel has the same A2DP issues as stock, so the bitpool setting is either not changed in it or the setting is elsewhere. I need to flash the other kernel I had from empire's rom to see if that alone can fix it.
Post your results once you finish testing it out, I'd like to know what they are haha!
Like I said I'm not into pushing my phone anymore, just looking for the best overall experience as possible with complete stability. However once in a great while I decide to flash some stuff and tweak it around to see how far my phone will go before freaking out ha.
Ok.. after another round of testing.
Looks like it's NOT a kernel thing after all. If I use Chad's anthrax kernel in a Sense ROM it doesn't change the quality of the BT A2DP streaming. But in an AOSP ROM, where the audio sounds good, using Chad's AOSP kernel still sounds good.
So it looks like there's some file/setting somewhere else that determines the bitrate or the BT drivers. Guess this isn't going to be as easy as I hoped.
Well at least you got that figured out haha. I'm still very interested in your findings so keep us updated! ^.^
I've always found that AOSP run better anyways, but I like Sense too much to get rid of it haha! However I'm looking forward to the bugs in the XPLOD ROM to be worked out, I flashed that one when it was released a few days ago and it seems pretty sick.
I would love to have an AOSP rom, but at this point the phone is missing functionality. I'll deal with Sense, so long as I can play music over BT and not cringe.
BT is important for the car because I can use steering controls