Hello
As you know, our device doesnt get charged by the USB cable it comes with (or veeeeeery slow).
As I have a solar charging device with USB slots, I need a compatible USB cable. Somehow it has to work, is there some converter or something ?
Thanks!
Dominik
Eh? My device charges just fine with the included cable.
You will have trouble charging it from a solar powered USB charger as I'm guessing it will only put out 5V at maybe 500mA. That's not enough to juice the TF. It's not the cable though.
Because ASUS used a USB connector on its cable, unfortunately does *not* mean this USB connector 100% follows the specifications for USB.
It has a trick, whereby, when connecting to your PC it works like USB at 5v. But, when connecting to a 15v charger it switches to use 15v instead.
The TF charging indicator, and Android OS battery settings, only indicate charging when 15v applied. At 5v it may trickle charge with screen & wifi & ??? turned OFF. I never try charging at 5v because it is too slow.
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I don't think it charges at all at 5v?
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Neo3D said:
I don't think it charges at all at 5v?
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It will, provided you have the amperage. But its only trickle so its only really charging with the screen off and charges slower than the tablet uses battery.
Has anyone else had this problem? I plug my Photon into a USB power adapter plugged into my car's cigarette lighter and the phone displays the message that the device is charging but the percent of charge continues to decline. I have changed USB adapters and USB cables but it still happens. If I use an AC adapter and the same USB cable the phone charges correctly.
Is it a software or hardware problem? I was unlocked and rooted using several of the current custom ROMs and the charging process in the car worked then. When I re-locked and went back to stock and re-rooted then this happened.
i am having the same issue as of yesterday. Did you ever find out what the issue was?
im guessing that the car was off and that it was a foreign car...
Numerous issue could actually cause the same symptoms, Apps/games in the background... failing alternator, failing cigarette lighter, failing car adapter...
car not running while its charging could also cause this issue depending on charge level of the battery and the volts of the battery...
What you'll need to do is eliminate the possibilities..
Try with the car on and the phone on...
try with the car on and the phone off...
try with a different adapter for the car...
try with a different usb cord...
try with a magnum 44 aimed at it...
Try with a different Car is also another good option.
Ditto.
I am having the same problem.....worked fine before I unlocked/rooted. Anyone else have a suggestion?
I have the same issue with the incar charger and using a computers usb port to charge my phone..(doesnt charge when under load ..ie-dowloading something)...i think that it is the charger being underpowered..example..
Stock a/c charger puts out 850mA
Most computer usb and standard car usb chargers only put out around 500mA
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Mine charges very slowly in the car. The other day, I plugged in at 32%. Drove 30 minutes to get home, and it had only reached 37%. Plugged in at home, and within 10 minutes had well over 50%, even though I was actively using it then.
This is on stock rooted, btw.
The stock drivers must use a very conservative power draw when plugged into a relatively low-output power source. By contrast, the power draw from a high-output AC adapter must be quite aggressive, because it charges more quickly than other phones I've used when plugged into AC.
It did turn out to be caused by the car charger being underpowered. I went to BestBuy and bought a "high capacity" charger and all is good!
ChadH42 said:
It did turn out to be caused by the car charger being underpowered. I went to BestBuy and bought a "high capacity" charger and all is good!
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Which specific car charger did you get? I'm having the same problem too!
The Photon needs at least 850mA charger to get charge currently. Otherwise it charge slowly or not charge at all.
Can anyone post a link to a specific charger that is working great for you and charging fast while in the car?
has any one who got charger working ? can anyone pls post the link to product
thanks in advance
vabs99 said:
has any one who got charger working ? can anyone pls post the link to product
thanks in advance
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This one worked for me!
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...93004842&sr=8-2&keywords=motorola+car+charger
Hi,
ive noticed something odd. Theres a tab here that doesn't like to charge with unofficial samsung chargers.
Both from a wall or from a car - it has two chargers, both are the same technicals as the original, and both put an "X" on my battery (the same as when its connected to a laptop).
But its odd, cause technically, the charger is the same charger (lets say the car produces different specs, but I still try charging with an unofficial normal charger from my wall socket).
Any ideas?
If you are rooted try this and see if it works
advocator said:
Hi,
ive noticed something odd. Theres a tab here that doesn't like to charge with unofficial samsung chargers.
Both from a wall or from a car - it has two chargers, both are the same technicals as the original, and both put an "X" on my battery (the same as when its connected to a laptop).
But its odd, cause technically, the charger is the same charger (lets say the car produces different specs, but I still try charging with an unofficial normal charger from my wall socket).
Any ideas?
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with me it does charge using USB in my tab with stock TW, but it is very slow (X mark on the battery icon). i guess the charger you are using does not delivery the same level of charge similar to one provided by original samsung USB wall adapter.
kmaq said:
with me it does charge using USB in my tab with stock TW, but it is very slow (X mark on the battery icon). i guess the charger you are using does not delivery the same level of charge similar to one provided by original samsung USB wall adapter.
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same here...very slow without original charger, took like a whole day to get full charged.
When I plug into the wall or use a power inverter in my car, it says "charging AC" and charges quicker. Although if I use a car USB dongle charger, it goes into "charging USB" mode and unfortunately, charges much slower. This really ticks me off as I just picked up a rapid charging 2.1amp(2100mA) USB car dongle.
Is there a way to tell the phone to charge as AC instead of USB? Or at least an app/widget that will change it?
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When I plug into the wall or use a power inverter in my car, it says "charging AC" and charges quicker. Although if I use a car USB dongle charger, it goes into "charging USB" mode and unfortunately, charges much slower. This really ticks me off as I just picked up a rapid charging 2.1amp(2100mA) USB car dongle.
Is there a way to tell the phone to charge as AC instead of USB? Or at least an app/widget that will change it?
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max current in the USB spec is between 500 and 900 mA depending on version. Congrats, you got scammed. Take it back.
Edit: Correction, there has been a modification to the spec to allow, ostensibly, mobile devices to draw greater power when charging. The device may draw up to 1800mA when connected as a Dedicated Charging Port which disallows data transfer in this mode. Two things to note about this. First, the HTC supplied AC-to-USB adapter lists a 1000mA (1A) current output, and your users manual (you did read the manual, right?) specifies you should only use this charger with your phone. Second, despite the fact that I am not even sure you would want the phone to take 1800mA, when it's designed to charge with 1000mA, your "rapid charging" device is STILL over-specced by ~14%. Not a gamble I personally would be willing to take.
Good luck.
Edit 2: To answer your original question, no, you cannot fix this in software. The dedicated charging mode is triggered by shorting the d+ and d- data contacts. If your USB dongle doesn't do this, then the phone will never, ever be able to recognize it as a dedicated charging port and you will only get 900mA charging current at 5V per the standard USB spec.
punman said:
Edit 2: To answer your original question, no, you cannot fix this in software. The dedicated charging mode is triggered by shorting the d+ and d- data contacts.
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Yeah, this seemed to be the final answer for giving the Desire enough juice to charge in a car while running nav. I don't plan on using nav a lot in my daily routine, but it would be nice to have a safe, effective answer to getting an "AC Charge" in a car. I saw the picture of voxigen's 12v port -> inverter -> AC USB adapter setup, but I don't have that much room around my 12v port in my car lol.
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Yeah, this seemed to be the final answer for giving the Desire enough juice to charge in a car while running nav. I don't plan on using nav a lot in my daily routine, but it would be nice to have a safe, effective answer to getting an "AC Charge" in a car. I saw the picture of voxigen's 12v port -> inverter -> AC USB adapter setup, but I don't have that much room around my 12v port in my car lol.
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i wouldn't mind continuing to use that inverter(aside from occasionally hitting my knee on it), just the downside to it is that whenever i'm playing music from my phone -> stereo, there'll be this weird buzzing/hissing sound in between tracks/when a song is paused, but while a song is playing it goes away... and it does not do that when i plug in through that usb charging dongle.
From the "Ultimate AT&T Galaxy Note Accessory Guide" thread:
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13. Car Charger + Power Inverters
$10 -- PowerGen Dual USB 2A Heavy Duty Ouput Car Charger for Apple iPad 2, iPhone 4 4s 3Gs 3G, iPod Touch (USB Cable not included) --- Review
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Has anyone else used the PowerGen car charger with the Note? I have a handful of other ones that all claim to fast-charge devices, but apparently it only works with iPhones and iPads. But since the PowerGen unit is on the list, can I assume people have used it and confirmed it will give me a 1A charge rate on the Note? I need a charger that can keep up with the Note occasionally drawing 1.4 A or more (display 100% brightness, GPS, LTE, Bluetooth all active, running Navigation).
A quick search for "powergen" in this forum only brings up the above thread.
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
I am using my car charger for galaxy tab 10.1 (2.0 amp) and it is working much better than any of the 1 amp chargers I have tried, OEM, boxwave, etc...
I also use the GT 101. 110V charging brick, so when I travel, only one brick and two cables. My experience is that the 2 amp charger works really well and will charge the phone while using GPS full time, where the OEM charger and other 1 amp chargers either maintain charge, or slightly discharge.
Thanks for the confirmation! Of course, now I discover Amazon won't ship that to Canada, and amazon.ca does not carry it. :crying: I'd go see what TELUS has to offer, but I'm sure it will be A) expensive and B) not have dual USB ports, or perhaps not even a detachable cord.
If you do find one, also buy a charge-only usb cord.
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If you do find one, also buy a charge-only usb cord.
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Is that still needed if the charger itself correctly supports fast charging? The cord I use now is the one from my Touchpad. I get 1 A to the Note from the AC plug, and the Touchpad gets around 1.8 A. I do also have a charge-only cable (much thinner cord, only two wires), but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
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Is that still needed if the charger itself correctly supports fast charging? The cord I use now is the one from my Touchpad. I get 1 A to the Note from the AC plug, and the Touchpad gets around 1.8 A. I do also have a charge-only cable (much thinner cord, only two wires), but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
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The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge. I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable. The phone sees what pins are connected and determines if it is going to charge in usb charge mode(<=500ma) or AC charge mode(>=500ma).
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The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge. I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable. The phone sees what pins are connected and determines if it is going to charge in usb charge mode(<=500ma) or AC charge mode(>=500ma).
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So you use the Touchpad USB micro cable to charge your Note in the car? I thought the cable is too short? I am looking for a LONG USB micro cable that is shorted so it will give >500mA.
I am planning to buy the PowerGen but I need recommendation on the CORRECT USB cable that is long enough.
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slapshot591 said:
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
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What cable do you use?
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The cord from the touchpad is probably wired correctly internally for fast charge.
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I don't think it is, because it also works as a normal USB data cable. If pins 2 and 3 are shorted (D+ and D-), then the cable become "charge only" and cannot be used for data.
I bought a similar dual car charger and did not see a difference with the micro usb sync cable. I only saw a difference with a charge-only micro usb cable.
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Then it sounds like that car charger was an "iPad-compatible" one, i.e.: it does not have D+/D- shorted out to indicate to non-Apple devices that it is capable of more than 500 mA.
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So you use the Touchpad USB micro cable to charge your Note in the car? I thought the cable is too short?
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The cable is about a meter in length. I only need about half that to reach from the plug to the phone mount on the dash.
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I don't think it is, because it also works as a normal USB data cable. If pins 2 and 3 are shorted (D+ and D-), then the cable become "charge only" and cannot be used for data.
Then it sounds like that car charger was an "iPad-compatible" one, i.e.: it does not have D+/D- shorted out to indicate to non-Apple devices that it is capable of more than 500 mA.
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So then how does it charge fast then? If the cable isn't shorted? Motorola does the same thing. IIRC its a shorted setup to allow for fast charging. All of my USB cables come from Samsung, HP, and Motorola and I use them as data cables as well
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So then how does it charge fast then? If the cable isn't shorted?
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You short the pins inside the AC adapter or car charger, rather than the cable. If I understand correctly, the danger of using a charge-only cable is if you plug it into an actual USB port that isn't designed to supply more than 500 mA. Your device could then try to pull down, say, 2000 mA and potentially damage the power supply on your laptop or desktop.
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You short the pins inside the AC adapter or car charger, rather than the cable. If I understand correctly, the danger of using a charge-only cable is if you plug it into an actual USB port that isn't designed to supply more than 500 mA. Your device could then try to pull down, say, 2000 mA and potentially damage the power supply on your laptop or desktop.
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Ahh OK. Well, the cigarette lighter/USB converters must act like shorted out wall chargers.
That's my setup.
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I'm using the Rocketfish 3.1A Model# RF-M657D with my Note. While using Google Nav, lowest brightness, keys backlight off, Sync off, HSPA+, the phone still loses charge (albeit, slowly). I'm assuming this is because the charger is not internally shorted between pins two and three as it is marketed as a iPad/iPhone charger. I'm using a Belkin Data/Charge cable so I know that is not shorted.
I have been doing some reading and last night, I purchased the "Satechi Smart Adapter Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S (I can't post links yet, google it.) so I will report back when I receive and pair it with the Rocketfish.
One thing I can't understand is how some of you have reported 1600mA from your car chargers. I am reading that without this adapter/cable mod, the Note will only run 460mA or so. With the adapter/cable mod, the Note's hardware maxes out at 960mA. Also, is their an app that allows me to see how much amperage the Note is receiving or are you guys pulling out the multimeter?
slapshot591 said:
Works like a champ. My battery was charging at 1600mAh while streaming soundcloud and using navigation. Definitely does the job.
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Where/how do you get this info? Asking because I'm curious to see how my car charger does. It has usb ports rated at 2A, and I think it's 2A shared instead of per port, but want to see how it actually does when plugged in.
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I'm using the Rocketfish 3.1A Model# RF-M657D with my Note. While using Google Nav, lowest brightness, keys backlight off, Sync off, HSPA+, the phone still loses charge (albeit, slowly). I'm assuming this is because the charger is not internally shorted between pins two and three as it is marketed as a iPad/iPhone charger. I'm using a Belkin Data/Charge cable so I know that is not shorted.
I have been doing some reading and last night, I purchased the "Satechi Smart Adapter Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S (I can't post links yet, google it.) so I will report back when I receive and pair it with the Rocketfish.
One thing I can't understand is how some of you have reported 1600mA from your car chargers. I am reading that without this adapter/cable mod, the Note will only run 460mA or so. With the adapter/cable mod, the Note's hardware maxes out at 960mA. Also, is their an app that allows me to see how much amperage the Note is receiving or are you guys pulling out the multimeter?
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My rocket fish model must put out more than yours. My pic is above your post. With Google Nav, Google play music (streaming, not native music), full sync, brightness to at least 50% it only lost 4% over 30-40mins.
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My rocket fish model must put out more than yours. My pic is above your post. With Google Nav, Google play music (streaming, not native music), full sync, brightness to at least 50% it only lost 4% over 30-40mins.
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From what I read, your charger is an .5 amp.
It's not like my phone dies or anything, but it'll lose like 5% an hour and I could be exaggerating. Are you using a charge-only cable or modded cable/charger at all? Like I said, I think this phone is only pulling down 460mA without said mod and I find 1600mA to be incorrect as I read the Note will only pull down 960mA max. We'll see what this adapter does for my charge times.
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From what I read, your charger is an .5 amp.
It's not like my phone dies or anything, but it'll lose like 5% an hour and I could be exaggerating. Are you using a charge-only cable or modded cable/charger at all? Like I said, I think this phone is only pulling down 460mA without said mod and I find 1600mA to be incorrect as I read the Note will only pull down 960mA max. We'll see what this adapter does for my charge times.
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They only thing I'm using is that exact setup posted. RF adapter and a Motorola atrix desktop dock charge cable.. (basically just a longer version of the standard wall charger)
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They only thing I'm using is that exact setup posted. RF adapter and a Motorola atrix desktop dock charge cable.. (basically just a longer version of the standard wall charger)
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Ah, charge-only cable is the main factor here.
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Ah, charge-only cable is the main factor here.
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OK, I lied, I'm using the OEM cable that came with the Motorola Atrix 4G, not the longer cable from the desktop dock. I just checked my car and that's the cable that's in there.
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