esn question - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

if someone is not planning on paying their phone bill and the phone thats on the plan is still clear for activating, can someone else with a sprint account activate it ?
and after its activated on another account, is it possible for the esn to go bad while on the account when the bill isnt paid?
sprint screwed over a family member so hes trying to see what he can do with the phones before the window to pay the bill is over.
any info on this would be great...thanks
its an evo if that matters at all...

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PC Jona said:
if someone is not planning on paying their phone bill and the phone thats on the plan is still clear for activating, can someone else with a sprint account activate it ?
and after its activated on another account, is it possible for the esn to go bad while on the account when the bill isnt paid?
sprint screwed over a family member so hes trying to see what he can do with the phones before the window to pay the bill is over.
any info on this would be great...thanks
its an evo if that matters at all...
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Talking about this is fraud which is not allowed on XDA. Simple answer is yes if you don't pay the bill then can block your ESN making it dead.
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Help with a account locked titan

I bought a titan dirt cheap off of someone but when i try activate it to my alltel account they tell me it is locked in the system due to someone oweing on a bill the account came from, does anyone know a way around this?
goonygugle said:
I bought a titan dirt cheap off of someone but when i try activate it to my alltel account they tell me it is locked in the system due to someone oweing on a bill the account came from, does anyone know a way around this?
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There is no legal way of getting it activated. sorry.
He is right, sorry
The account lock is tied to the ESN of the unit and that is not legal to change. It is possible, but not legal and should not be done as the trouble you could get into would cost you a lot more to get out of then just getting another.
pay their bill? haha
1) Pay the bill
2) Switch to another carrier if they will register the ESN
3) Keep asking for supervisors to unlock it and explain to them that if they don't unlock it they get nothing. If they do at least they will get your monthly bill.

A question about swapping phones on Verizon...

Hi,
I will be getting trading my Droid X for an HTC Thunderbolt on Saturday morning and I will be meeting the other person at a Verizon store. When I am at the Verizon store does it matter which one of my parents I bring? My mom manages our Verizon account, while my dad pays the rest of the bills. Since my mom is Account Manager, does that mean the only way I could do the trade would to have her be in the store with me? Or could I bring my dad in and still do the trade and swap my number to the Thunderbolt with no problems? My plan will be staying the same and nothing will be changing, but I just don't want to drive to a Verizon store that's an hour away to meet someone to do a trade only to find out that I am not able to because I didn't bring the right parent with me.
Other info that might be helpful: My dad knows all our Verizon information... passwords, billing password, all that stuff... most of the Verizon information is actually linked to my dad's business, but my mom still manages it and pays the bill.
So, to shorten things up, basically what I'm asking is, can I bring my dad into the Verizon store with me, and swap phones with someone from Craigslist, even though he isn't the account manager?
Thanks in advance!
You need to bring whoever has their name on the account, because they would need to be the ones to sign the contract (even though your plan won't change, you still have to renew the contract to get the subsidized price for the phone). I assume it would be your mom if she is the one who handles the account.
orkillakilla said:
You need to bring whoever has their name on the account, because they would need to be the ones to sign the contract (even though your plan won't change, you still have to renew the contract to get the subsidized price for the phone). I assume it would be your mom if she is the one who handles the account.
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Hmm, well, I had an upgrade available in November 2010 and upgraded to a Droid X and I had brought my dad along with me and it seemed to work out fine and I was able to upgrade to the X with no problems, hell, I even did it at Walmart to get a discounted price (free). I think I'm going to call Verizon tomorrow for further clarification, but to anyone who has information on this, please post as it would help me immensely.
orkillakilla said:
You need to bring whoever has their name on the account, because they would need to be the ones to sign the contract (even though your plan won't change, you still have to renew the contract to get the subsidized price for the phone). I assume it would be your mom if she is the one who handles the account.
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Since he is trading somebody for the phone I don't think there would be a contract change needed...
Whoever's name is on the account would need to be there. However if your mom is listed as an account manager in Verizon's system then it should be fine for her to go. Ultimately you could call 611 and they might be able to tell you for sure.
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bd1212 said:
Hmm, well, I had an upgrade available in November 2010 and upgraded to a Droid X and I had brought my dad along with me and it seemed to work out fine and I was able to upgrade to the X with no problems, hell, I even did it at Walmart to get a discounted price (free). I think I'm going to call Verizon tomorrow for further clarification, but to anyone who has information on this, please post as it would help me immensely.
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Well, I assume if our dad did it last time, then he should be able to do it again. I would call Verizon just to be sure.
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capflya said:
Since he is trading somebody for the phone I don't think there would be a contract change needed...
Whoever's name is on the account would need to be there. However if your mom is listed as an account manager in Verizon's system then it should be fine for her to go. Ultimately you could call 611 and they might be able to tell you for sure.
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Yeah, I think I'm just going to call.
orkillakilla said:
Well, I assume if our dad did it last time, then he should be able to do it again. I would call Verizon just to be sure.
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That's also why I'm confused lol... I'll call tomorrow and see what they say.
As long as your father knows the security code set up on the account he should be able to do ANYTHING on the account, short of closing it. At least, that's the way it has been explained to me in the past.
Good luck!
Robert
Ugh as someone that actually works for them all you need to do is when you get to the counter, call your mom(or account holder) and have her give the rep the pasword or last four of social on the account.and then your good.
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I always go by myself even though I'm still on my parents plan. I just have the account information with me and it's never a problem.
Robertjm said:
As long as your father knows the security code set up on the account he should be able to do ANYTHING on the account, short of closing it. At least, that's the way it has been explained to me in the past.
Good luck!
Robert
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Thanks, that sounds great!
oxidant11 said:
Ugh as someone that actually works for them all you need to do is when you get to the counter, call your mom(or account holder) and have her give the rep the pasword or last four of social on the account.and then your good.
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Alright, will do! Thank god some Verizon rep's actually read these kinds of forums.
If you're trading with someone you don't have to go to a store.. your mom can activate the phone from home by calling it and providing the account info.
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joshnichols189 said:
If you're trading with someone you don't have to go to a store.. your mom can activate the phone from home by calling it and providing the account info.
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Yeah but I'm assuming he's doing it at the Verizon store so the person he's getting the phone from can't report the phone as stolen later on and have it deactivated.

Penny deal on Amazon make you have texting plan

I use gvoice so clearly I do not want a texting plan. Anybody had luck getting them to remove it? I emailed Amazon customer service. If they wont remove it, I am guessing I can get Verizon to remove it after I receive my first bill.
Suggestions?
salesrep2189 said:
I use gvoice so clearly I do not want a texting plan. Anybody had luck getting them to remove it? I emailed Amazon customer service. If they wont remove it, I am guessing I can get Verizon to remove it after I receive my first bill.
Suggestions?
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You are getting a $300 phone for a penny, they are making that up with the texting plan. There is no such thing as a free lunch. You might be able to remove it, but Amazon might very well come back and charge you full price. You'll have to carefully read the fine print in the Amazon terms. Which texting plan do they make you get?
Very true. If that ends up being the bottom line, I can definitely live with it. They made each line have 1000 text plan for $10 for each line.
Still, If I can save $20 a month, I'm going to try.
Also going to get another $10 a month off my fios bill now that I'm a Verizon Wireless customer too.
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Huh. When I tried to buy a phone there I did not have to select a texting plan. I could just select data and move on. I didn't buy yet because I wanted a few more days to think about it
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Folks are saying any change to the plan during the first 181 days violate the terms and you will have to pay amazon's ETF (which I think is $250).
salesrep2189 said:
I use gvoice so clearly I do not want a texting plan. Anybody had luck getting them to remove it? I emailed Amazon customer service. If they wont remove it, I am guessing I can get Verizon to remove it after I receive my first bill.
Suggestions?
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Why would there be an early termination fee?
If you check out the other thread, I called Amazon Wireless today, and they said there's no ETF for changing your plan (upgrade or downgrade), as long as you keep the line open, with a data plan.
Evo4gLI said:
If you check out the other thread, I called Amazon Wireless today, and they said there's no ETF for changing your plan (upgrade or downgrade), as long as you keep the line open, with a data plan.
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Are you sure about that last part, I have been told By a friend that works at verizon that data isnt tied to the plan. I looked through the terms and conditions on my order, also no mention of data. Only that the line stays active.
I had a friend call amazon today and tell them to point out the part in the terms that states you need to keep data. They couldnt find it.
I just got my rezound today, swapped service with my TB. And am going in tomorrow to take TB off and put a dumb phone on and cancel data.
I wonder how long it will take amazon to chage me if they are going to...?
bad4u6669 said:
Are you sure about that last part, I have been told By a friend that works at verizon that data isnt tied to the plan. I looked through the terms and conditions on my order, also no mention of data. Only that the line stays active.
I had a friend call amazon today and tell them to point out the part in the terms that states you need to keep data. They couldnt find it.
I just got my rezound today, swapped service with my TB. And am going in tomorrow to take TB off and put a dumb phone on and cancel data.
I wonder how long it will take amazon to chage me if they are going to...?
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true, data is not tied to the plan, but verizon has a requirement that any smartphone must have a dataplan. if they find out you do not, they will add it automatically for you.
Thats why im going to put a dumb phone on that plan and let it sit idle @ 9.99
I didn't notice any text messaging requirements, but I was just adding a line. It did have listed under family plans, both the mintues with unlimited texting and the minutes only.
I'm thinking the same thing about switching a dumb phone onto this line in a couple months after root is established.
Right now, I'm going to use my t-bolt has a hotspot on that line until I hit the 4gb limit every month (for my kindle fire). Once the rezound has root, I can just hotspot it.
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Thats why im going to put a dumb phone on that plan and let it sit idle @ 9.99
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You can do this easily and online without talking to anyone.
eallan said:
You can do this easily and online without talking to anyone.
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on the web site im guessing? What part? Instruct me o wise one.
can anyone verify for sure if you can change the phone on the line that amazon gave you? I'm not sure what business it is of theirs if we change the phone as long as we're on the line? Furthermore, what if we drop the phone and it breaks or lose it...are they going to charge us $250 for that as well?
Its been three months since this post. has anyone got charged by amazon for swaping lines and removing data??
If anyone actually read their amazon agreement it CLEARLY states, that you agree to keep the line of service active for no less than 180 days.
Use a little common sense people. Lets say your phone gets stolen and you don't have insurance. Amazon can't just randomly force/expect you to automatically have a backup phone that supports data/text just to satisfy their terms or they charge you an ETF. Legally speaking something like that would NEVER hold up in court unless they forced you to get deductible free insurance, which to my knowledge doesn't exist. Bottom line, read what you sign. This thread needs to be closed before it leads to needless paranoia.
trikotret said:
Its been three months since this post. has anyone got charged by amazon for swaping lines and removing data??
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I got my Rez for a penny on this deal and have not been charged anything and I moved the Rez over to a new line. I then put a dumb phone on that line and removed data and have not received any correspondence from Amazon whatsoever.
Put it this way...when I asked an Amazon rep about keeping my unlimited data on my line (the only option when purchasing the phone was 4GB/month) he said I need to call Verizon to make sure I kept it. He didn't have access to view my account.
Marcismo55 said:
I got my Rez for a penny on this deal and have not been charged anything and I moved the Rez over to a new line. I then put a dumb phone on that line and removed data and have not received any correspondence from Amazon whatsoever.
Put it this way...when I asked an Amazon rep about keeping my unlimited data on my line (the only option when purchasing the phone was 4GB/month) he said I need to call Verizon to make sure I kept it. He didn't have access to view my account.
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Your just lucky, my first experiences with wirefly ended in chaos because we decided to send back the droidx and keep the incredible, and they stated that we broke the contract. Tried to charge me $200 and I told them to eff themselces. No problems since and they dropped the charge
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PhantomApollyon said:
If anyone actually read their amazon agreement it CLEARLY states, that you agree to keep the line of service active for no less than 180 days.
Use a little common sense people. Lets say your phone gets stolen and you don't have insurance. Amazon can't just randomly force/expect you to automatically have a backup phone that supports data/text just to satisfy their terms or they charge you an ETF. Legally speaking something like that would NEVER hold up in court unless they forced you to get deductible free insurance, which to my knowledge doesn't exist. Bottom line, read what you sign. This thread needs to be closed before it leads to needless paranoia.
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You are correct . it states keep the line active no less than 180 days. However doesn't say anything about features, like data plan or the phone itself. It just says line of service. So what these guys are doing is keeping service on by putting a dumb phone on the line and pay$9.99 without data. However, wirefly doesn't mention about keeping data plans and not transferring phones among the family lines

Question about cancelling sprint contract

Just to let you guys know im not a person that is trying to rip sprint off or anything like that.
Basically I only use 500mb to 1gb of data per month and this is really the only real reason I am using sprint instead of a prepaid service. Well now that sprint is going to change their contract and make me pay more on my family plan I figure ill just use a prepaid service now especially because I dont have 4g in my area and havent for 2 years lol.
My question is if my 2 evo 3ds will be flagged as lost/stolen when I cancel my contract or not.
benjimatt said:
Just to let you guys know im not a person that is trying to rip sprint off or anything like that.
Basically I only use 500mb to 1gb of data per month and this is really the only real reason I am using sprint instead of a prepaid service. Well now that sprint is going to change their contract and make me pay more on my family plan I figure ill just use a prepaid service now especially because I dont have 4g in my area and havent for 2 years lol.
My question is if my 2 evo 3ds will be flagged as lost/stolen when I cancel my contract or not.
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They shouldn't. I think that's the purpose of the ETF.
benjimatt said:
Just to let you guys know im not a person that is trying to rip sprint off or anything like that.
Basically I only use 500mb to 1gb of data per month and this is really the only real reason I am using sprint instead of a prepaid service. Well now that sprint is going to change their contract and make me pay more on my family plan I figure ill just use a prepaid service now especially because I dont have 4g in my area and havent for 2 years lol.
My question is if my 2 evo 3ds will be flagged as lost/stolen when I cancel my contract or not.
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If you cancel your contract and pay your EFT's, they are good to go to reactivate. If you cancel your contract and don't pay your EFT's, those phones will be flagged on Sprint for non-payment and cannot be activated until the bill is paid.
but if i get out of my contract because of a Material change then would they be flagged?
benjimatt said:
but if i get out of my contract because of a Material change then would they be flagged?
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No.
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tgruendler said:
If you cancel your contract and pay your EFT's, they are good to go to reactivate. If you cancel your contract and don't pay your EFT's, those phones will be flagged on Sprint for non-payment and cannot be activated until the bill is paid.
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Also, I know that if you are flashing the 3Ds to Boost or something, it won't matter. However, if you want to sell them, they will sell for more if they are clean.
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Also, I know that if you are flashing the 3Ds to Boost or something, it won't matter. However, if you want to sell them, they will sell for more if they are clean.
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Yeah this is what im going to do. Either go to boost mobile or cricket. I only use 1 gig of data max I figure if im going to be on a slow 3g network i may as well pay less money
benjimatt said:
but if i get out of my contract because of a Material change then would they be flagged?
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No. If Sprint lets you leave with no ETF, they won't 'flag' your phones. The only way they will be 'flagged' is if you tell Sprint they were stolen or you do not pay your bill (etf, etc.).
once you cancel your contract, you can do whatever you want with your phones. Remember, you paid for them so they are yours. The only thing is that you will want to sell them unrooted because it does sell quicker to non-dev pplz as the person a few posts back mentioned.

[Q] buy without plan?

I'm trying to buy htc one from tmobile online without any plan, is there a way to do it?
It keeps saying "plan is required to complete this transaction"
Can't.
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Can't as far as I know.
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You have to have a line with Tmobile already. Sign into your account, go to "upgrade this line" and you can get the phone in your cart without a new plan.
Or you can just call Tmobile (you don't need an account with them to do this). They'll sell one to you over the phone and you won't need a plan.
jasonleb1 said:
You have to have a line with Tmobile already. Sign into your account, go to "upgrade this line" and you can get the phone in your cart without a new plan.
Or you can just call Tmobile (you don't need an account with them to do this). They'll sell one to you over the phone and you won't need a plan.
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I have a prepaid plan (T-Mobile Monthly4G $30 unlimited Web and text with 100 minutes of talk)
when I try to upgrade there it says "Your profile email address is missing or invalid. In order to upgrade, you must have a valid email address in your My T-Mobile profile"
email is correct, I guess the only option is order on the phone?
smashcz said:
I have a prepaid plan (T-Mobile Monthly4G $30 unlimited Web and text with 100 minutes of talk)
when I try to upgrade there it says "Your profile email address is missing or invalid. In order to upgrade, you must have a valid email address in your My T-Mobile profile"
email is correct, I guess the only option is order on the phone?
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I got that too when I tried to upgrade through my own account. But I'm not the account holder. I logged into her account and was able to upgrade just fine.
I'd recommend calling though.
jasonleb1 said:
I got that too when I tried to upgrade through my own account. But I'm not the account holder. I logged into her account and was able to upgrade just fine.
I'd recommend calling though.
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I did try call, lady said it will be only online, so I can't order on the phone..
It's ridiculous that phone carriers now force a data plan on you if you want to get a smartphone so I feel your pain. I go between my house and school and have WiFi in both places so I have no need for a data plan.
One time I kept complaining to a T-Mobile rep until she finally let me order the phone without adding data but I don't know if it would work again. Maybe call again and explain your situation over and over and maybe you'll have some luck like I did.
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Do you have a Walmart in your area? I'm in Virginia and the only place where I live that carries T-Mobile is Walmart. You can buy it there but it's $650 but you can walk out with it without a contract.
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pacom20003 said:
It's ridiculous that phone carriers now force a data plan on you if you want to get a smartphone so I feel your pain. I go between my house and school and have WiFi in both places so I have no need for a data plan.
One time I kept complaining to a T-Mobile rep until she finally let me order the phone without adding data but I don't know if it would work again. Maybe call again and explain your situation over and over and maybe you'll have some luck like I did.
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I just recently switched my family plan to their new plan from a very old family plan that we've had for years.
Their most basic plan has 500mb of internet included (which is probably more than I use when I'm not on wifi).
You can buy one without a plan but the cost is 650. Not the 580 that everyone pays "with a qualified plan"
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I was in the same boat as you. I have the $30 plan and an activated pre paid SIM.
I went through the same struggles with the online ordering and customer service. Finally I decided to just buy it as a new line because since I was paying full price I could just cancel the service and keep the phone. I got the order in but there is some kind of fulfilling glitch and my order has been stuck in processing for a week.
Getting tired of dealing with incompetent people on the phone, I started to look around for a store that was carrying the One and I finally found a store in Arlington, VA. I drove out there and was able to buy one in person with little difficulty. The only issue was what somebody mentioned earlier, they wanted me to buy a service plan and I told them no I just wanted to use the plan I currently had. He eventually let me do that but the phone still ended up costing $609 + Tax. I asked why the price was higher and he couldn't tell me. I called T-mobile to get some clarification and they couldn't tell me so I asked around on Twitter and got a response from T-Mobile. They offered to credit me back the $30 difference so overall I am pretty happy.
BTW, the $30 plan works great with the phone. I even get some actual 4G LTE sporadically here in DC.
Good luck with getting the phone. It's definitely worth it.
Yea, I used to have the same problem...
smashcz said:
I have a prepaid plan (T-Mobile Monthly4G $30 unlimited Web and text with 100 minutes of talk)
when I try to upgrade there it says "Your profile email address is missing or invalid. In order to upgrade, you must have a valid email address in your My T-Mobile profile"
email is correct, I guess the only option is order on the phone?
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Yea, I used to have the same problem... Many times in the past I had to deal with that... They have a glitch in their website...
mosi76 said:
I was in the same boat as you. I have the $30 plan and an activated pre paid SIM.
I went through the same struggles with the online ordering and customer service. Finally I decided to just buy it as a new line because since I was paying full price I could just cancel the service and keep the phone. I got the order in but there is some kind of fulfilling glitch and my order has been stuck in processing for a week.
Getting tired of dealing with incompetent people on the phone, I started to look around for a store that was carrying the One and I finally found a store in Arlington, VA. I drove out there and was able to buy one in person with little difficulty. The only issue was what somebody mentioned earlier, they wanted me to buy a service plan and I told them no I just wanted to use the plan I currently had. He eventually let me do that but the phone still ended up costing $609 + Tax. I asked why the price was higher and he couldn't tell me. I called T-mobile to get some clarification and they couldn't tell me so I asked around on Twitter and got a response from T-Mobile. They offered to credit me back the $30 difference so overall I am pretty happy.
BTW, the $30 plan works great with the phone. I even get some actual 4G LTE sporadically here in DC.
Good luck with getting the phone. It's definitely worth it.
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Lol bro same happened to me they over charged me. But I went to my local T-Mobile store and they credit me back my $30.00 bucks I'm happy now. Now I'm waiting for 14 grace period to have SIM unlock
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