I'm not even kidding, I was wondering if it was possible to compile a donut rom from source that would work on this device. I was going to post in development, because this question is related to development, but I'm going to post in Q&A just to be sure. cupcake would also be fine I guess.
smoothest donut experience you would ever see
drowningchild said:
smoothest donut experience you would ever see
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Would probably be less smooth.
Just for kicks, um, why?
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Just for kicks, um, why?
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just as you said, just for kicks really I just want to do it.
I imagine the two deal breakers to overcome are compatible bootloaders and functioning kernel.
I know on older devices as 2.2 got upgraded to 2.3 some required updated bootloaders. I imagine there's a way around it, but going 3 to 4 generations back has to in some way play a role with bootloader compatibility.
Kernel should be possible. From how I understand, ics is ported to our phones by using a patched kernel.
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gr8hairy1 said:
I imagine the two deal breakers to overcome are compatible bootloaders and functioning kernel.
I know on older devices as 2.2 got upgraded to 2.3 some required updated bootloaders. I imagine there's a way around it, but going 3 to 4 generations back has to in some way play a role with bootloader compatibility.
Kernel should be possible. From how I understand, ics is ported to our phones by using a patched kernel.
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I know that you have to update your bootloader... but is it backwards compatible? I used the same hboot version to boot gingerbread and froyo on my inspire when i had it. I wonder if the rom just has to be made and the kernel that we're using now could be backwards compatible.
Only one way to find out
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Only one way to find out
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that's why it's in the Q&A, I need help with it!
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I'm aware a lot of people are using the 2.3.4 version of android now, but does 2.3.3 development cease to exist now? I mean, I'm aware its not the latest version to date and all that, but hey.. we do have the kernel source for it. I'm not trying to say HEY DEVS. DO THIA FOR ME NOW!!! But I've just been wondering this for a while, have we reached the limits of 2.3.3 yet?
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You miss the ''not'' before the caps. Now it really does look like you're demanding it.
I think it'll be released soon, so that's why they stopped.
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I'm aware a lot of people are using the 2.3.4 version of android now, but does 2.3.3 development cease to exist now? I mean, I'm aware its not the latest version to date and all that, but hey.. we do have the kernel source for it. I'm trying to say HEY DEVS. DO THIA FOR ME NOW!!! But I've just been wondering this for a while, have we reached the limits of 2.3.3 yet?
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I may be completely dense, but I wonder the same exact thing. Wouldn't it be a lot easier to develop an AOSP ROM from the 2.3.3 kernel source we already have?
(Tell me if I'm absolutely clueless, please, so at least I'll know.)
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Haha thanks!
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Aosp is 2.3.5
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Aosp is 2.3.5
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AOSP is whatever version that Google releases, as they update the Android versions,.... So, yes, we may be on 2.3.5 now, but there CERTAINLY was a 2.3.3 Gingerbread ROM out there prior to this release.
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actually aosp is now 2.3.6
think of it like this if we stayed with 2.3.3 and the kernel source for 2.3.4 was released we would have to redo everything anyways...think of this as us getting a head start
If you want to live in the past, try ViperRom. It's a great ROM but still on the old base.
Well this is obsolete now
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Well this is obsolete now
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yup
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2.3.4 kernel source FTW! lol
Hello, I have an Atrix rooted with an unlocked bootloader, running Faux's Enhanced stock kernal. I was just wonder how I would upgrade when/if ICS comes to the Atrix. Would you SBF to 2.3.4 stock and OTA rom there, or is a Fruitcake option possible? I was just wondering, because I am determined not to brick this phone...hopefully ever.
When that moment comes, we all know what to do, don't worry.
Its still a while away for that, the source isn't even released yet.
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Please stop creating these useless redundant threads, we already have a few ICS threads! Post in one of those!
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Please stop creating these useless redundant threads, we already have a few ICS threads! Post in one of those!
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If i could "Thank" you 100x i would..
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Its still a while away for that, the source isn't even released yet.
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Ummm, yes it is actually.
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Ummm, yes it is actually.
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no, the SDK was released. this doesn't equal the source for ICS.
the SDK for Honeycomb was released, but the source was never released. that's why we've never seen a honeycomb version of Cyanogenmod; as long as the SDK is all we have we won't be able to get a completely stable port of ICS out on any device
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no, the SDK was released. this doesn't equal the source for ICS.
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QFT
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Alcapone263 said:
no, the SDK was released. this doesn't equal the source for ICS.
the SDK for Honeycomb was released, but the source was never released. that's why we've never seen a honeycomb version of Cyanogenmod; as long as the SDK is all we have we won't be able to get a completely stable port of ICS out on any device
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You're right, i mis-read - my bad
Is anyone porting this yet? If not I'm getting my hands dirty tonight...
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Is anyone porting this yet? If not I'm getting my hands dirty tonight...
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Yeah I saw this on their forum. Can't wait for someone to use hellraiser (don't know if it can be used for ICS) for this one
No I haven't seen anyone try to port to the att version. You should port this to our phone that would be a great start we just need the drivers for the gpu so we can have hardware acceleration.
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They are making some nice progress there!
Can't wait for us to be at this stage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0h1kPbCAwM
Really looking forward to ICS on our devices
Once it's out of alpha phases I'll probably poke at it.
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No I haven't seen anyone try to port to the att version. You should port this to our phone that would be a great start we just need the drivers for the gpu so we can have hardware acceleration.
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looks like their alpha 3 version has hardware accel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19414357&postcount=55
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looks like their alpha 3 version has hardware accel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19414357&postcount=55
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Sweet, thanks for sharing this
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looks like their alpha 3 version has hardware accel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19414357&postcount=55
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Ok, so has anyone attempted to flash this onto our att SGS2? I have been messing with flashing the i9000 ICS directly onto my captivate and other than button configuration it is fun to mess with.
I KNOW some people flashed i9100 based roms onto our i777 phones in the beginning and it is not a good idea.
NOW saying that, for the captivate using the i9000 ICS they have been able to flash back between the ASOP build and CM7 with no issues since they both are using mtd. But since our phones are not using mtd I would assume it would be different? So basically I was wondering if we would be able to flash in between AS LONG AS WE ARENT FLASHING BOOTLOADERS? Glad to see some interest for ICS for our phones as well. I was thinking the older SGS phones would have/will have it before us
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That video was pretty good, for an alpha release. I'm really looking forward to that. On a related note, AT&T needs a Nexus device NOW, because I would like stock, unskilled ICS (and beyond) with all of the updates and future support it entails.
They are already up to Alpha 6! Looks like touch was fixed.
I see all these devices getting ICS, hell even vibrant and captivate have a port, and the only 2 threads i saw that mentioned ICS being worked on, are no longer active in development, so whats the deal? ICS themes are cool and all but theme is a theme, i want the full ice cream goodness. Is there anyone currently working on a 4.0 ROM?
Yes, multiple devs are currently working on a port. I believe codeworx is getting very close.
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Yes ours just hasn't been released yet
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i'm not flaming although it will probably look like I am - why are people so impatient about ICS? I have never seen so many "where's ICS?" threads compared to the Gingerbread update, for example.
I agree however you can't blame android enthusiasts for being overly excited about the release of ics. Although gingerbread was a great release, ics is much more of a major release because of it basically merging gingerbread with honeycomb, making it unlike any other android release to date.
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They're working on it with the I9100.
Personally, I'm waiting until there's a kernel source drop for the Linux 3.0.9 kernel for I9100 ICS - I'll start porting work then.
ICS ports based on 2.6.35 are interim hackjobs.
(yes, 3.6.35 was a typo)
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They're working on it with the I9100.
Personally, I'm waiting until there's a kernel source drop for the Linux 3.0.9 kernel for I9100 ICS - I'll start porting work then.
ICS ports based on 3.6.35 are interim hackjobs.
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You mean 2.6.35.
Wrong. He means 4.6.35.
On topic. These ports are going to be like HP Touchdroids for a while I bet. Buggy.
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i'm not flaming although it will probably look like I am - why are people so impatient about ICS? I have never seen so many "where's ICS?" threads compared to the Gingerbread update, for example.
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Because it's been a year since GB.
Not trying to sound impatient, I was following a couple deb's and saw that they had stalled/stopped development and couldn't find any other threads with active ics development. More curious to see if it's being worked on or waiting for my leaks
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More leaks*
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Mainly waiting for more leaks - It's luck of the draw whether a device's vendor-proprietary libraries will work with ICS or not.
They apparently got lucky with the I9000/Captivate, not so lucky with the I9100.
You have to keep in mind that it is EXTREMELY rare for there to be an AOSP device bringup to be completed in any reasonably functional form before an official vendor firmware for a given device (or at least a very similar device) becomes available.
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Wrong. He means 4.6.35.
On topic. These ports are going to be like HP Touchdroids for a while I bet. Buggy.
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Um, NO. Your wrong. 2.6.35 was a kernel for gb, and he was saying that all these ICS ports are coming with hacked gb kernels, they aren't even being released/leaked with the "real deal" ICS kernel.
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Um, NO. Your wrong. 2.6.35 was a kernel for gb, and he was saying that all these ICS ports are coming with hacked gb kernels, they aren't even being released/leaked with the "real deal" ICS kernel.
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I'm fairly certain he was joking about my typo.
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I'm fairly certain he was joking about my typo.
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If he was I apologize. If he was maybe next time leave an emoticon or a "lol" or something so we can know, there's just so many "know-it-all" noobs on this site as of late and its frustrating. Sorry for coming out of character everyone, #hijackover, #backontopic.
my wife has an S2 and i'm not sure if i want to mess with her phone and update it if it isn't worth it...she is technically challenged.
so i am wondering what the majority of you will be doing, switching to official ICS or stick with stock GB.
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A majority of us don't touch official builds
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A majority of us don't touch official builds
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A majority of us don't touch official builds
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+1 as well.
Most of us have been on ICS for months.
Your wife probably won't even know the difference so I wouldn't worry about it
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Reading about too many issues with the "official ICS" and went to SHOStock2 rom. ZERO issues and functions flawlessly for me.
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if that is true, then i'm only hoping to hear from the few who do use official builds.
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ARTAQaf said:
my wife has an S2 and i'm not sure if i want to mess with her phone and update it if it isn't worth it...she is technically challenged.
so i am wondering what the majority of you will be doing, switching to official ICS or stick with stock GB.
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Don't update it. In my experience, technically challenged people don't appreciate it when their technology changes, sometimes even if the change is for the better. The phone works great on Gingerbread...if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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if that is true, then i'm only hoping to hear from the few who do use official builds.
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*crickets*
That's like going to a Chinese restaurant and only hoping to see pizza on the menu.
Seriously, though. . .if your wife is happy with GB and is not particularly interested in, or adept at learning, new tech there's no sense in updating just to update. As for the "official" update, the responses seem to be all over the place. . .from folks who love it to those who loathe it and say they're going back to GB. It really all depends on how happy your wife is with her phone as it currently is AND how prepared you are to deal with possible problems caused by AT&T's implementation of ICS.
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my wife has an S2 and i'm not sure if i want to mess with her phone and update it if it isn't worth it...she is technically challenged.
so i am wondering what the majority of you will be doing, switching to official ICS or stick with stock GB.
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Complete stock here. 4.03. Personally I think you should go through with it . Like others have mentioned there isn't a big change in the user interface . So your wife shouldn't have trouble figuring things out since there nearly identical. You can help show her some new features she may like such as full screen web browsing, the new task manager ,screen display or data manager. Then again you can always set it up for her so she doesn't even need to understand how to "turn on the feature"
Aside from the phone OS experience, I'd also consider apps. If your wife only uses Browser and Gmail, then stick with Gingerbread.
On the other hand, now that ICS is "stock," I would plan ahead for developers dropping support for Gingerbread - at least in some cases.
Apps from mainstream companies (Amazon, Netflix) tend to be extremely backwards-compatible, while smaller shops may focus efforts on fewer versions, and once you can guarantee access (carrier-provided stock ICS), that's one less version to maintain.
For my part, I wanted to try out the Chrome Beta. Won't run on Gingerbread, so that's a no-brainer for me.
For the record, I do not run stock, but I used the above logic when I went from a Gingerbread ROM to an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM.
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Aside from the phone OS experience, I'd also consider apps. If your wife only uses Browser and Gmail, then stick with Gingerbread.
On the other hand, now that ICS is "stock," I would plan ahead for developers dropping support for Gingerbread - at least in some cases.
Apps from mainstream companies (Amazon, Netflix) tend to be extremely backwards-compatible, while smaller shops may focus efforts on fewer versions, and once you can guarantee access (carrier-provided stock ICS), that's one less version to maintain.
For my part, I wanted to try out the Chrome Beta. Won't run on Gingerbread, so that's a no-brainer for me.
For the record, I do not run stock, but I used the above logic when I went from a Gingerbread ROM to an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM.
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App developers have to consider the market. Currently (as of June 1) approx 20% of devices are running 2.2 Froyo and 65% are running 2.3 Gingerbread. Those two account for 85% of the market. Only 7% of devices are running ICS. Not too many app developers are going to give up over 90% of the market and make their apps specific to ICS. See here for details.
ARTAQaf said:
my wife has an S2 and i'm not sure if i want to mess with her phone and update it if it isn't worth it...she is technically challenged.
so i am wondering what the majority of you will be doing, switching to official ICS or stick with stock GB.
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I did and an liking it more than GB. It didnt change much. It feels smoother and theres a new "shine" to things but thats about it. Its easy, do it. Why do rooted people on here act like theyre better than us unroots? Just wondering. I NEED my warranty and insurance with the way I am w/ phones. STOP ROOT BULLYING!! lol
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I did and an liking it more than GB. It didnt change much. It feels smoother and theres a new "shine" to things but thats about it. Its easy, do it. Why do rooted people on here act like theyre better than us unroots? Just wondering. I NEED my warranty and insurance with the way I am w/ phones. STOP ROOT BULLYING!! lol
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You know that you can root and unroot and keep your warranty intact
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You know that you can root and unroot and keep your warranty intact
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you forget.
people would need to know what root actually means. many many many people think rooting is some secret voodoo that incites leprechaun riots and unicorn orgies...
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you forget.
people would need to know what root actually means. many many many people think rooting is some secret voodoo that incites leprechaun riots and unicorn orgies...
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And what the hell is wrong with that?!
I'm kinda disappointed that it didn't happen that way when I rooted and flashed ;(
Clay
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you forget.
people would need to know what root actually means. many many many people think rooting is some secret voodoo that incites leprechaun riots and unicorn orgies...
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That explains why I don't like lucky charms anymore...
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Tried it and had some issues. On the subjective side I thought it didn't seemed as smooth as GB. Objectively I had some issues with notification sounds not working. Also the menu is different enough that it could be a little confusing at first for someone that doesn't like to mess with their technology.
I first Flashed the Stock ICS with CWM from AJ Newkirk to keep my root. The stock did not seem that much different than GB. I progressed to v6b of the Newkirk ROM with Touchwiz UX and other changes. Much more interesting. Then Flashed the new Shishir ROM with Touchwiz UX and the UCLE5 Modem and am experimenting with them both. Unless you plan on moving to the next level with the custom ROM's I would question if the update is worth it.
Thanks to AJ and Shishir for their hard work and speed to get their ROM's out.