Hello, I have an Atrix rooted with an unlocked bootloader, running Faux's Enhanced stock kernal. I was just wonder how I would upgrade when/if ICS comes to the Atrix. Would you SBF to 2.3.4 stock and OTA rom there, or is a Fruitcake option possible? I was just wondering, because I am determined not to brick this phone...hopefully ever.
When that moment comes, we all know what to do, don't worry.
Its still a while away for that, the source isn't even released yet.
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Please stop creating these useless redundant threads, we already have a few ICS threads! Post in one of those!
WiredPirate said:
Please stop creating these useless redundant threads, we already have a few ICS threads! Post in one of those!
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If i could "Thank" you 100x i would..
Sass86 said:
Its still a while away for that, the source isn't even released yet.
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Ummm, yes it is actually.
jgc121 said:
Ummm, yes it is actually.
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no, the SDK was released. this doesn't equal the source for ICS.
the SDK for Honeycomb was released, but the source was never released. that's why we've never seen a honeycomb version of Cyanogenmod; as long as the SDK is all we have we won't be able to get a completely stable port of ICS out on any device
Alcapone263 said:
no, the SDK was released. this doesn't equal the source for ICS.
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Alcapone263 said:
no, the SDK was released. this doesn't equal the source for ICS.
the SDK for Honeycomb was released, but the source was never released. that's why we've never seen a honeycomb version of Cyanogenmod; as long as the SDK is all we have we won't be able to get a completely stable port of ICS out on any device
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You're right, i mis-read - my bad
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I'm aware a lot of people are using the 2.3.4 version of android now, but does 2.3.3 development cease to exist now? I mean, I'm aware its not the latest version to date and all that, but hey.. we do have the kernel source for it. I'm not trying to say HEY DEVS. DO THIA FOR ME NOW!!! But I've just been wondering this for a while, have we reached the limits of 2.3.3 yet?
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You miss the ''not'' before the caps. Now it really does look like you're demanding it.
I think it'll be released soon, so that's why they stopped.
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I'm aware a lot of people are using the 2.3.4 version of android now, but does 2.3.3 development cease to exist now? I mean, I'm aware its not the latest version to date and all that, but hey.. we do have the kernel source for it. I'm trying to say HEY DEVS. DO THIA FOR ME NOW!!! But I've just been wondering this for a while, have we reached the limits of 2.3.3 yet?
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I may be completely dense, but I wonder the same exact thing. Wouldn't it be a lot easier to develop an AOSP ROM from the 2.3.3 kernel source we already have?
(Tell me if I'm absolutely clueless, please, so at least I'll know.)
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Haha thanks!
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Aosp is 2.3.5
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Aosp is 2.3.5
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AOSP is whatever version that Google releases, as they update the Android versions,.... So, yes, we may be on 2.3.5 now, but there CERTAINLY was a 2.3.3 Gingerbread ROM out there prior to this release.
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actually aosp is now 2.3.6
think of it like this if we stayed with 2.3.3 and the kernel source for 2.3.4 was released we would have to redo everything anyways...think of this as us getting a head start
If you want to live in the past, try ViperRom. It's a great ROM but still on the old base.
Well this is obsolete now
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Well this is obsolete now
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yup
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2.3.4 kernel source FTW! lol
I'm not even kidding, I was wondering if it was possible to compile a donut rom from source that would work on this device. I was going to post in development, because this question is related to development, but I'm going to post in Q&A just to be sure. cupcake would also be fine I guess.
smoothest donut experience you would ever see
drowningchild said:
smoothest donut experience you would ever see
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Would probably be less smooth.
Just for kicks, um, why?
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Just for kicks, um, why?
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just as you said, just for kicks really I just want to do it.
I imagine the two deal breakers to overcome are compatible bootloaders and functioning kernel.
I know on older devices as 2.2 got upgraded to 2.3 some required updated bootloaders. I imagine there's a way around it, but going 3 to 4 generations back has to in some way play a role with bootloader compatibility.
Kernel should be possible. From how I understand, ics is ported to our phones by using a patched kernel.
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I imagine the two deal breakers to overcome are compatible bootloaders and functioning kernel.
I know on older devices as 2.2 got upgraded to 2.3 some required updated bootloaders. I imagine there's a way around it, but going 3 to 4 generations back has to in some way play a role with bootloader compatibility.
Kernel should be possible. From how I understand, ics is ported to our phones by using a patched kernel.
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I know that you have to update your bootloader... but is it backwards compatible? I used the same hboot version to boot gingerbread and froyo on my inspire when i had it. I wonder if the rom just has to be made and the kernel that we're using now could be backwards compatible.
Only one way to find out
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Only one way to find out
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that's why it's in the Q&A, I need help with it!
I see all these devices getting ICS, hell even vibrant and captivate have a port, and the only 2 threads i saw that mentioned ICS being worked on, are no longer active in development, so whats the deal? ICS themes are cool and all but theme is a theme, i want the full ice cream goodness. Is there anyone currently working on a 4.0 ROM?
Yes, multiple devs are currently working on a port. I believe codeworx is getting very close.
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Yes ours just hasn't been released yet
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i'm not flaming although it will probably look like I am - why are people so impatient about ICS? I have never seen so many "where's ICS?" threads compared to the Gingerbread update, for example.
I agree however you can't blame android enthusiasts for being overly excited about the release of ics. Although gingerbread was a great release, ics is much more of a major release because of it basically merging gingerbread with honeycomb, making it unlike any other android release to date.
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They're working on it with the I9100.
Personally, I'm waiting until there's a kernel source drop for the Linux 3.0.9 kernel for I9100 ICS - I'll start porting work then.
ICS ports based on 2.6.35 are interim hackjobs.
(yes, 3.6.35 was a typo)
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They're working on it with the I9100.
Personally, I'm waiting until there's a kernel source drop for the Linux 3.0.9 kernel for I9100 ICS - I'll start porting work then.
ICS ports based on 3.6.35 are interim hackjobs.
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You mean 2.6.35.
Wrong. He means 4.6.35.
On topic. These ports are going to be like HP Touchdroids for a while I bet. Buggy.
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i'm not flaming although it will probably look like I am - why are people so impatient about ICS? I have never seen so many "where's ICS?" threads compared to the Gingerbread update, for example.
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Because it's been a year since GB.
Not trying to sound impatient, I was following a couple deb's and saw that they had stalled/stopped development and couldn't find any other threads with active ics development. More curious to see if it's being worked on or waiting for my leaks
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More leaks*
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Mainly waiting for more leaks - It's luck of the draw whether a device's vendor-proprietary libraries will work with ICS or not.
They apparently got lucky with the I9000/Captivate, not so lucky with the I9100.
You have to keep in mind that it is EXTREMELY rare for there to be an AOSP device bringup to be completed in any reasonably functional form before an official vendor firmware for a given device (or at least a very similar device) becomes available.
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Wrong. He means 4.6.35.
On topic. These ports are going to be like HP Touchdroids for a while I bet. Buggy.
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Um, NO. Your wrong. 2.6.35 was a kernel for gb, and he was saying that all these ICS ports are coming with hacked gb kernels, they aren't even being released/leaked with the "real deal" ICS kernel.
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Um, NO. Your wrong. 2.6.35 was a kernel for gb, and he was saying that all these ICS ports are coming with hacked gb kernels, they aren't even being released/leaked with the "real deal" ICS kernel.
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I'm fairly certain he was joking about my typo.
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I'm fairly certain he was joking about my typo.
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If he was I apologize. If he was maybe next time leave an emoticon or a "lol" or something so we can know, there's just so many "know-it-all" noobs on this site as of late and its frustrating. Sorry for coming out of character everyone, #hijackover, #backontopic.
When do you guys think when we will see this surface e?
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HAHAHAHHH please get it correct. There is NO ICS 4.1. Android 4.1 is called Jelly Bean. Anyways until the source code is released (probably in 2 weeks), the CM team has nothing to work with and they only build from source. NO EXCEPTIONS.
Joker mentioned in his cm9 thread that he's working on porting Jelly. no eta.
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HAHAHAHHH please get it correct. There is NO ICS 4.1. Android 4.1 is called Jelly Bean. Anyways until the source code is released (probably in 2 weeks), the CM team has nothing to work with and they only build from source. NO EXCEPTIONS.
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Actually there is no ICS source for Photon so technically CM9 is not built from source so that's not entirely true.
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Actually there is no ICS source for Photon so technically CM9 is not built from source so that's not entirely true.
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He meant Google source not motorola Google didn't release the source yet
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People should stop asking these questions... We will have fully working jb when we get 4.0 kernel and drivers and when joker has the time to implement them to the jb rom.
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Actually there is no ICS source for Photon so technically CM9 is not built from source so that's not entirely true.
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Yes i meant Google source for Jelly Bean. I am aware that Motorola hasn't come out with the ICS source because the ICS upgrade hasn't even come out yet. It is still being developed for Q4.
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People should stop asking these questions....
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I believe this was a valid question .
I just received my photon, coming from droid incredible 2. So far I feel that the since forums are more polite and have more devs with more courtesy .
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I believe this was a valid question .
I just received my photon, coming from droid incredible 2. So far I feel that the since forums are more polite and have more devs with more courtesy .
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I see your point, but its the same as asking when were getting ics... I understand youre new to the photon forums, and welcome aboard. But when you see a new thread every couple days asking about the release date of ics (and now jb) for the past 8 or 9 months it gets agitating. Especially because if people would bother scanning through just the threads on page one they would quickly find the answer to this and many other commonly asked questions. I try to be as helpful and polite as i can, but just as its a rule of thumb to think before you speak, also should it be a rule of thumb to read before you post. I apologize if i offended you.
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its a rule of thumb to think before you speak, also should it be a rule of thumb to read before you post. I apologize if i offended you.
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The dinc forums were constantly flooded , I agree with you I apologize if I came off rude.
I'll do my best to keep them clean and contribute when possible.
Maybe make this thread as a hub of 4.1 progression & updates ?
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I wouldn't mind checkin out JB. That notification bar is nice. I wanna try it out haha.
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Your title is incorrect. No such thing. ICS is 4.0. JB is. 1. If I had to guess, NEVER! May her a hack, but official release, never. Hell, I have doubts on ICS!
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Your title is incorrect. No such thing. ICS is 4.0. JB is. 1. If I had to guess, NEVER! May her a hack, but official release, never. Hell, I have doubts on ICS!
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CyanogenMod plans a quick leap to Jelly Bean for version 10, existing devices likely to tag along
The crew's early looks suggest that there will only be a few minor tweaks needed to merge Google's latest with the custom Android code, making CyanogenMod 10 a relative snap to produce. The update's release is still very much up in the air without the Android Open Source Project code available to modify; that said, device compatibility also isn't expected to be an obstacle. Any device that can run CyanogenMod 9 should run version 10 when it's released. As long as we're willing to wait for a stable 9.0 to emerge first, there are few barriers to making Jelly Bean that much sweeter.
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while our cm9 is not stable yet, when we grab official ics drivers, it should be easy to jump jellybean wagon
Is it really gonna be cm10? Figured they would do like 9.x
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Is it really gonna be cm10? Figured they would do like 9.x
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yep.
Many have asked whether JB will be CM9.1 or CM10. Keeping with the pattern thus far, every newly named AOSP update results in a bump to the CM major version. This has the added benefit of fitting into the pattern of [insert codename position in the english alphabet] = CM version. Examples being: G is the 7th letter thus CM7, I is the 9th letter thus CM9 and J = 10.
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https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/PNJutPNhixo
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Is it really gonna be cm10? Figured they would do like 9.x
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Because CyanogenMod's Eclair, Froyo, and Gingerbread were CM 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3? Wait a minute, my Gingerbread CM ROM is 7? Confusing?
They didn't do point releases for Android's 2.0 point releases; no reason they'll do it for 4.0's point releases.
The number is the numerical placement of the code word in this instance j is the tenth letter so cm10 just as I is the 9th. They plan to keep using this naming structure from what I read.
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I vote for it to be called CMX
U know u want it.
But I am looking forward to a stable version of Google now. And that camera. Seems legit. Estimated time before alpha release around Aug/Sept maybe? But that's just my guess. I personally have no idea.
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Jellybean source has dropped!! http://www.zdnet.com/google-open-so...-4-1-for-third-party-modification-7000000570/
When will the roms be released?
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When will the roms be released?
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Really? an eta on something that just dropped? Psh.
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Jellybean source has dropped!! http://www.zdnet.com/google-open-so...-4-1-for-third-party-modification-7000000570/
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But still no Photon drivers, so nothing terribly exciting IMHO...............
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But still no Photon drivers, so nothing terribly exciting IMHO...............
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Same here. Still waiting on those drivers Motorola, Hello!!!
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Same here. Still waiting on those drivers Motorola, Hello!!!
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What does drivers do?
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What does drivers do?
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Drivers are directions that tells your hardware how to interact with the software. At this point, we are frankenstein. We use different parts of other phones in order to make ours work. We need directions explicitly for our phone.
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Drivers are directions that tells your hardware how to interact with the software. At this point, we are frankenstein. We use different parts of other phones in order to make ours work. We need directions explicitly for our phone.
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Oh ok
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Drivers are directions that tells your hardware how to interact with the software. At this point, we are frankenstein. We use different parts of other phones in order to make ours work. We need directions explicitly for our phone.
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Well with that in mind, I would imagine we'll be able to use most of the Atrix drivers when that's released, since that's 99% the same phone, and is scheduled for a Q3 ICS release, as opposed to the Photon's Q4.
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Well with that in mind, I would imagine we'll be able to use most of the Atrix drivers when that's released, since that's 99% the same phone, and is scheduled for a Q3 ICS release, as opposed to the Photon's Q4.
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I was just thinking this the other day. Then it dawned on me... What do I know? Hope that statement is true.
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It has a snapdragon processor, we have tegra.
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It has a snapdragon processor, we have tegra.
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AFAIK, the Atrix has the Nvidia Tegra 2 and the Atrix 2 uses a TI Omap CPU.
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AFAIK, the Atrix has the Nvidia Tegra 2 and the Atrix 2 uses a TI Omap CPU.
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He was referring to the atrix 2.. And i could have sworn i read it had a snapdragon. Guess i was mistaken.
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He was referring to the atrix 2.. And i could have sworn i read it had a snapdragon. Guess i was mistaken.
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I'm pretty sure he just said atrix, in reference to the original atrix, which is on motorola's update schedule for a Q3 ICS update.
And yes, my thought's exactly, I'd expect heavy driver reuse from that update.