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I mean I already have a rooted Nook Color with Android installed on it and it runs pretty smooth..
Should I consider buying the Nook Tablet just for the faster processor and RAM? Or is it pretty much the same?
Thanks.
If you already have a NC with CM7 (assuming you're not using stock B&N software) on it, there is little reason to move to the NT...until it gets root and ROMs. It all depends on what you want to be able to do. Besides, if your NC does everything you want it, why upgrade?
i'm trying to decide as well. I think it depends on how much support this will receive.
It is not worth it if we never see ics on it and certainly if it doesn't get any version of cm7. ics should run much better on here vs. the NC. I think the NC will be pushing the hardware to run ics really well. Apart from that I don't think there is a huge difference. If you run stock quite a bit it should be much better/quicker.
I run cm7 off of sd now and still use stock for some things, i can't live without cm7. when 1.4 comes out for nookcolor i think comparisons will be really easy to make and again when cm7 or 9 get on the nook tablet-a real comparison of what you get will be easy to make.
can you live with just stock on nook tablet for a few weeks/months?
That all depends on your needs... Ask yourself what you with your Nook Color...
Is it primarily for reading books or are you using it as a full-fledged tablet?
If you used ManualNooter, then you'll see some similarities with the options that were unlocked in your Nook Color.
If you are looking to use apps, you may not be as impressed with the NTab at launch - it has the same app limitations as a stock NC. (No sideloading apps at present.) Perhaps that will change with NTab user demands, but only time will tell...
Do you watch a lot of video on your NC? If so, then you might like the NTab more, as the screen quality has been bumped up quite a bit. So far, it still only handles the same video formats as the Nook Color, but the screen and GPU are much more powerful, yielding a much richer video playback experience overall.
(I'm talking about playing mp4 encoded video files off a microSD card - YouTube and Netflix streaming aren't as important to me as using the NTab as a media player, so I can't speak for HD streaming via 'the web'.)
The speed of the NTab is the most impressive thing - It is *VERY* fast.
Pop into your local Barnes and Noble and test drive it - it's a completely different device than a stock or rooted Nook Color. You'll get that within minutes of testing it out.
This is the double edged sword of the NT/NC debate. For all intents and purposes, they are the same device save the hardware changes and preloaded apps.
All they are doing with this device is solidifying their market with better specs, there's no impetus to upgrade if you already own the NC.
I know next year is FOREVER away but I guarantee you that their next device will be just as friendly and worthy of upgrading to.
Well, my Sony reader died 3 months after it was given to me. I've been using the Nook app for Android and its time for an upgrade. On the way to pick one up now.
I have had my Nook Color for less than a year. I am getting it for (hopefully) Improved performance with large (50mb+) pdf files... and well, im a sucker for gadgets damnit.
I received my Kindle Fire last night and doubt I will end up keeping it. I had a Nook Color that flew off my Subaru at 50 MPH and did not survive. I decided to put off repurchasing it for what would become the Kindle Fire.
Now that I have it, I miss my Nook Color even more. It had a home button, volume rockers, and an SD card slot that the Fire does not have. It also feels much more comforable in my hands. The Fire is heavier in a smaller footprint. The UI seems 3/4 baked. I get the feeling that Amazon released a very basic tablet at a very aggressive price point. I imagine they will release a pro version of the Fire in the future.
That being said, I am going to try the Fire for the next few weeks and most likely return it during before 30 days. I am an Amazon Prime customer, so my purchases are mostly within the Amazon ecosphere. If the Nook Tablet is rooted, I will likely pick it up. If not, I may opt for a new Nook Color at the lower price and put what I want on it.
I love Amazon, but BN design is very compelling.
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As I post this from my Nook Tablet, i must say, this is rather sweet!!!
I'm very much digging mine and I never thought I would put my Bionic. All it is now is a wireless hotspot for my NT.
I'm trying to decide between a kindle fire or a nook tablet. To be honest, the biggest selling point for me is, which will be more like a regular android tablet once rooted and flashed with a new rom eventually. I'm as interested in performance as functionality. I would primarily use it for light gaming, movie watching movies & Netflix, and Playing with apps and live wallpaper lol. Sorry, I'm relatively new to Android but i used to be big in windows mobile and flashing a different Rom every other day. I'm really looking for some personal opinions on this. Thanks a lot guys.
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I have bought nook . Because it has more ram and more storage and the screen is a bit better. But other than that look that they are the same with kindle. Even though looks like kindle will be a bit more famous so that means that it will little more kindle software support and development.
Nook color the father of nook table . A cyanogenmod was released and also Honeycomb so im expecting Ics to come in Nook Tablet and that's enough for my opinion.
Buy a Nook Tablet based on what it can do for you today - not what it might do for you someday.
If you are a daily Rom flasher you might want to hold off. There is no way to do that today on the Nook Tablet - and the Fire is inadequate hardware.
I'm having a good time with my NT, especially since I rooted it. I use it a LOT more than the Dell Streak 7 I just sold. You still can't install custom roms so if that's a biggie, it's probably a deal killer, but I like to tinker with my toys and I'm having fun playing around with all of the launcher options and other tweaks that are available that for the time being, so the lack of roms isn't a big deal. I find it great for light gaming, Netflix and most importantly, I find the SD card extremely useful since I can easily transfer media from one tablet to another.
Honestly I'm concerned about the nook's bootloader being locked down and from what I've seen, the hardware is near identical to the kindle, but the kindle only has 512 megs of memory, however, the nook does have the sd card slot
The fire will be more popular, but the nook tablet is the better 7" tablet stock. Even with only root the nook tablet can do everything the fire can do, just a bit better. You can install amazon market,do amazon video etc....just like the fire,plus it has the sd slot
If you decide to go with the Fire - Enjoy the 6GB's of limited space you will be using, not to even mention the 512MB of ram.
If you decide to go with the nook - Enjoy the 16GB's onboard memory, 1GB of ram, mic and SD slot that adds up to another 32GB's.
Also, watch this video to see what happens when the Fire is dropped on concrete : Goggle Drop Test: Nook Tablet Vs Kindle Fire (Giveaway) : I cannot post links for another 8 posts
The Fire is coated with something that makes the glass very bendable ( or so I've read ) thus making any type of drop on the Fire's screen crack the entire screen rather than part of it - enjoy
Best tablet for OP
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I used the Kindle Fire and The Nook Tablet side by side for a week. I ended up keeping the Tablet and returning the Fire. But then, I wasn't looking for a color e-reader to be "all things tablet." The nook does all things smoother and has better hardware than the Fire. On the other hand, the Fire is considered "Cooler" than the Nook and has "Amazon" in it's gene pool. The Nook Tablet is locked down tight and there's a good chance you can never do all the uber-cool things you want to do making it into a tablet. From your original post, I'd say get the Fire for your needs as it is open to mods moreso than the Nook Tab. It would be a shame if, after a month or so you were endlessly on the various sites complaining about how the Nook Tablet you own has a locked down bootloader and you can't hack it to your heart's content and make a silk purse out of it. At least with the Fire, you can take it in any direction you want and have no excuses for not making it the tablet you desire.
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Is there an app that I can download to get that homepage on my Nook?
The Fire may be (at this point) the more moddable, hackable tablet, but why even bother if you can't enjoy smooth video playback? From what I've heard, the stock (rooted, sideloaded) Nook plays Amazon Prime video better than the Fire. The 512MB RAM really killed it for me.
Now with Ice Cream Sandwich.
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The Fire may be (at this point) the more moddable, hackable tablet, but why even bother if you can't enjoy smooth video playback? From what I've heard, the stock (rooted, sideloaded) Nook plays Amazon Prime video better than the Fire. The 512MB RAM really killed it for me.
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Yeah, same for me. I tested both devices for a while as well, and tested them against full android 7inch tablets, a few 10inchers, the color, old eInk ones etc. It actually did make a significant different, the memory and slightly faster processor. The microsd slot is really what killed it for me though against the KF specifically.
If you're approaching either device looking for an android tablet to do all things, then both will fail imo. If you're looking for a book/video/comics/browser/note taking device, with lots of expansion space, this is a great device (and for hundreds cheaper than OK 7inchers). The screen is REALLY nice for comics; this is where I noticed vibrant/color differences, and legibility (that is likely stock software comparisons).
Other things I noticed that were better (sometimes a bit better, sometimes a lot better) than the KF, HTC Flyer, Iconia, other 7inchers, etc:
- screen was more response; sometimes too response. This makes it tolerate screen protectors better (sidenote). This was a big factor in "should I get an HTC flyer?" for me, and the response level was surprising.
- screen was a bit more vibrant than the KF; different warmth levels I think? The KF shipped with screens that REALLY varied though.
- the NT grips better in my hands and I actually use the little loop quite often to stabilize it in my hand
- volume buttons. I use them a lot, and more than expected. I've definitely had websites try and blow out my ears with their default audio when I've had earphones on. speaking of audio, the NT only has one speaker so earphones are highly recommended. Probably the biggest minus for the device.
I too watched the KF vs NT dropped onto concrete video and was pretty horrified/amused. The protective frame really seems useful on the NT and it seems sturdier. I DO prefer the darker frame of the Nook Color though. I have already tested it on carpet from 5 feet or so, accidentally :/
Mines slipped off the bed a few times but did not get hurt considering its only 3 feet or so. Done the same with my phone to many times to count and that survives just fine as well. The screen is starting to get greasy tho so I need to find a way of protecting that. Mom should be getting me a cover or something this xmas considering its around the corner now. I was wondering about the screen on the fire compared to the one on the nook considering I have herd the nook has the better screen and have seen pics where the fire just sucks becuase its to washed out and to blue which means its to cool.
Nook tablet should be the far superior tablet if you want to turn it into an android tablet.
I can't understand why anyone on this forum would choose a fire over a nook tablet. The ram, the sd card slot, double the built-in storage. The nook's screen is also better--it's brighter, has better contrast, and more lively colors.
The fire also has no volume buttons, which was idiotic. Having a full home button is also pretty important, which the nook has.
The fire will clearly be upgraded in probably 6 months or less. It's a first generation product that is missing so many things. I also echo everyone else who has used the fire--it is laggy in every possible way. The lagginess of the fire is very apparent, and the web browser of the nook tablet is much smoother. I have no idea why the fire sells so well--if the masses knew how easy it is to root a nook and then install the amazon marketplace. The only thing that the fire has for it is that it's smaller footprint. The nook seems too big for a 7" tablet, but it is tapered and more pleasant to hold than the fire.
Best thing to do is to head to Best Buy. There you can try them out side by side.
You can always get them both from Best Buy and return the one you don't want. That's what I did and they are totally fine with it.
I ended up going with the KF but the NT has plenty of points in its favor as well.
Personally I didn't find the NT to have hugely better performance, despite having double the RAM. This was the one thing I was most concerned about but it really hasn't made a difference for me.
The NT has better ergonomics. It feels lighter (though looking at their specs it's only 13 g lighter than the KF). Probably a function of being larger and thicker so it's a lot less dense. The screen bezel almost feels padded, which is nice. The other advantages are better battery life, the microSD card slot, and physical buttons.
Disadvantages vs. the KF are price, stock software experience, buggy interface at times (there are some places where you get unreadable white-on-white or black-on-black text), and of course the locked bootloader.
I think the biggest deal for most people is the microSD slot. If you want to take a lot of media with you, the NT is the only way to go. If you don't care about that, then the KF is worth considering if only for the lower price. The other thing is I would recommend the KF over the NT for family members who would probably use it stock. The pure stock experience is awful on the NT and merely okay on the KF. Obviously they both benefit a lot from at least sideloading an alternate launcher, but the NT is practically unusable as anything but an e-reader without doing so.
Hey all. Sorry to bump this semi-dead thread, but I was wondering if I could get an update from you all..
I recently bought a Kindle Fire and have been pretty satisfied with it. I never really took the 512MB of ram into consideration until lately. I've had my fire now for about a month. I rooted it and am currently running CM7 on it with the processor overclocked to 1.2 ghz.
I was playing "scramble with friends" the other day and it did seem a bit laggy.. nothing extreme though, but I'm used to the smoothness. I haven't really played many games on it either to really see how the 512mb ram handles it.
I was wondering for clarification: Is the Nook Tablet's bootloader still unlockable? As in, can't install any customized roms on it?
Is it worth selling this KF to get a NT? I use my tablet for ereading about 5% of the time. 95% of the time I use it for social uses (web browsing, facebook, twitter, etc).
The only negatives I've noticed on my KF are the lack of volume buttons. I installed a widget that lays over the screen to adjust the volume, but I would rather have physical buttons. On the other hand, I don't mind NOT having a home button. I haven't been disadvantaged at all by not having one, so that really doesn't matter to me.
What do you guys think?
I can't comment on the KF due to never having used one. I did however just get done installing CM7 on a friend's NC (somewhat similar to the KF except processor) with it clocked to 1.2 Ghz and I own the NT running CM7 Alpha final and there is a very noticeable difference. The apps took longer to load vs NT. They didn't run as smooth on the NC vs the NT. There was not much available RAM left after loading the basics whereas the NT having 1 Gb of ram there was plenty left after running basics. Also, the main killer for me, and at first I was going to get the KF and now glad I didn't, is the sd card slot. I have kids and it is really nice to have that 32 Gb card to put all the movies I want on it. Plus I have repartitioned my internal to give myself 10 more GB of personal storage space. I do like the KF gorilla glass, that is pretty nice. I think though in the end it is all about personal preference. The KF and NT are both good devices in there own right and price point. The NT is still not completly on par with the straight android tablets in some features, but it is adequate for everything that I want to do. You may want to wait though if they do release the Asus memo370?? 7" tablet. The rumors are going both ways at the moment, but if they do release it at a $249.99 price point it appears it would a very good buy. Just my 2 cents.
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I can't comment on the KF due to never having used one. I did however just get done installing CM7 on a friend's NC (somewhat similar to the KF except processor) with it clocked to 1.2 Ghz and I own the NT running CM7 Alpha final and there is a very noticeable difference. The apps took longer to load vs NT. They didn't run as smooth on the NC vs the NT. There was not much available RAM left after loading the basics whereas the NT having 1 Gb of ram there was plenty left after running basics. Also, the main killer for me, and at first I was going to get the KF and now glad I didn't, is the sd card slot. I have kids and it is really nice to have that 32 Gb card to put all the movies I want on it. Plus I have repartitioned my internal to give myself 10 more GB of personal storage space. I do like the KF gorilla glass, that is pretty nice. I think though in the end it is all about personal preference. The KF and NT are both good devices in there own right and price point. The NT is still not completly on par with the straight android tablets in some features, but it is adequate for everything that I want to do. You may want to wait though if they do release the Asus memo370?? 7" tablet. The rumors are going both ways at the moment, but if they do release it at a $249.99 price point it appears it would a very good buy. Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for replying. From my understanding, though, is that the Nook Color and the Kindle Fire both have 512MB ram.... but the KF has dual-core processor, as the NC isn't. I suppose this helps the KF with the overall smoothness.
is the bootloader still unlockable...yes...and no. the bootloader is still locked however, you can SKIP IT ENTIRELY on bootup. currently the NT has 2 different basic roms avail in either alpha or beta form
android 4.0(cm9)- alpha- status update the team is plugging away getting the 3.0 kernel ported (updating from the 2.6.7? kernel) before releasing another rom- all they have to do now is sound- and tweak hw video acceleration i think. i am not sure if this version works on the 8gig NT yet
android 2.3.7?(cm7) early beta/late alpha form- 2 identical versions- one installed internally, one installed via microsd card- both work very well for where they are at.-both also work for BOTH versions of the NT
so if i was to choose between the fire and NT- i'd get the NT(16gig).
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Hey all. Sorry to bump this semi-dead thread, but I was wondering if I could get an update from you all..
I recently bought a Kindle Fire and have been pretty satisfied with it. I never really took the 512MB of ram into consideration until lately. I've had my fire now for about a month. I rooted it and am currently running CM7 on it with the processor overclocked to 1.2 ghz.
I was playing "scramble with friends" the other day and it did seem a bit laggy.. nothing extreme though, but I'm used to the smoothness. I haven't really played many games on it either to really see how the 512mb ram handles it.
I was wondering for clarification: Is the Nook Tablet's bootloader still unlockable? As in, can't install any customized roms on it?
Is it worth selling this KF to get a NT? I use my tablet for ereading about 5% of the time. 95% of the time I use it for social uses (web browsing, facebook, twitter, etc).
The only negatives I've noticed on my KF are the lack of volume buttons. I installed a widget that lays over the screen to adjust the volume, but I would rather have physical buttons. On the other hand, I don't mind NOT having a home button. I haven't been disadvantaged at all by not having one, so that really doesn't matter to me.
What do you guys think?
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Thanks for replying. From my understanding, though, is that the Nook Color and the Kindle Fire both have 512MB ram.... but the KF has dual-core processor, as the NC isn't. I suppose this helps the KF with the overall smoothness.
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Yes the KF is smooth from what I have seen. I would say that the dc processor is helping, but the 1 Gb of ram in the NT helps the most I would think. Like I stated though, they are both good devices with pros and cons with each. For me after everything the better hardware and the expandable memory is the most important and that is why I chose the NT.
While initially I had planned on getting a nook tablet and rooting it seeing as it has a gig of ram and a gig processor...I noticed these other two devices and was wondering if its worth (at best buy) the extra 10 bucks for the acer iconia a100 which has been confirmed will be getting ICS or go with the player thats 10 bucks cheaper but not as big screen. I will be getting the amazon kindle fire for my wife (she likes how it handles best). Overall I know hardware wise the nook tablet seems to be the best bet (right now). How much of a hassel is it to root/custom rom it? (when I had my droid eris back in the day I rooted and modded the crap outta that so I'm used to that). Is it worth saving 10 bucks and going with the samsung player and not having to really worry about rooting but having 2 inches less....or going the acer iconia a100 and spending 10 bucks more again not having to root..but not having a gig of ram....or stay with the nook tablet choice and root it?
Can't speak for the other two options, but the NT is a nice device. Root is simple. Custom software is still in the early stages of development. As such, there is a scheduled Tuesday (tentative) release of the current test version on CM7. There is development of an ICS CM9 ROM in process as well. But there are no ETAs on anything alpha or beta.
My problem with the A100 is the poor battery life, plus i think the nook still has the better screen.. especially for reading if that's something you'll be doing.
The samsung player is nice hardware and works really well.. plus you get gps, camera etc.. but for me the screen is too small especially for reading.. but movies are nice.
I had both and returned both... you gotta love amazon with a prime account
Rooting the nook is cake... especially with the SD card method... and there are lots of guides here on the forum.. Once that is done you can get lots of apps..
But ultimately... you need to figure out what you want from the "tablet" and go from there..
I have what amounts to an unlimited toy budget, so I have the Samsung 5, the NC, the NT, the NST and one of the Asus Transformers.
I carry the Samsung wherever I go. I like it a lot, it's far more portable than the even the NC/NT or NST. I use Newsrob to read news articles on it, and listen to the BBC on it at night via TuneIn.
Eventually, I may give the NC away - the NT completely replaces it for my purposes.
I'll probably sell the Transformer at some point. Yes, it's big, shiny and sorta fast, and the games look great, but it's also big and shiny - the screen is not as good as the NC/NT because there's much more internal reflection. It's not very portable, and I find that I really don't like Honeycomb because you have to copy files to a Honeycomb device via the MTP interface or via wifi; I like being able to copy directly over the USB interface and synch stuff with Calibre - not an option over the MTP.
I like the NST for times when I'll be away from power for a bit, and because magazines on the NST are real epubs, none of that newfangled ehanced magazine stuff. So you can read them in any epub reader you like.
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I can't vouch for the others either but have my fair share of "tablets". I have used this nt more than any of them and I think the simple reason is size. It is the perfect balance of size and weight. I don't do any heavy gaming but feel that it offers a great environment for reading, browsing, email and tinkering. 2" less of screen real estate would in my opinion make it to small and 2" more is uncomfortable to balance. This nt is the sweet spot for me. Sitting up, laying down, portrait, landscape, it's all good.
The hardware you get for the price (especially if you can grab it for $199) is unmatched. Rooting is cake and development is starting to heat up.
I doubt you would be disapointed but in keeping with your question I'd say its between the nt and the acer.
I'll probably go nook tablet since hardware superiority over software inferiority(which can be fixed by rooting) seems to be the route to go. Here's another wrench into the question that I THINK I know the answer: is the nook tablet an upgrade from an iPod touch 4g? I realize I will be losing camera features and access to the tons of apps iTunes has, but once rooted I have android market. Any views on this? Basically looking for the "laptop lite" device...but bigger than my ipod and added feature of one handed computing while holding my daughter reading a book
Just want to let you know that the A100 does have 1GB of ram, the 512mb is a typo on their website. (you can find 1GB corrections and printed on the box) You can probably stretch the battery life to 6 hours with minimum brightness and wifi on.
well shoot..now that that has a gig of ram..makes things interesting...although one common factor I've seen listed almost everywhere IS horrible life with the acer as well as issues with viewing the screen unless you're viewing it straight on.
I was in Best Buy looking to purchase a tablet in November and saw the Acer for $250 and the salesperson told me they were sold out (only kept 5 in store). They had plenty of Nook tablets and sice I didn't want to wait, I purchased the Nook. I took it home and lset it up and was immediately impressed by the sharp and bright screen over the Acer but I was not happy at all with the default home manager. I fired up the internet and did a search and it brought me to this forum. Since late November, I have rooted the device amongst other hacks and recently installed CM7 alpha. I prefer Go Launcher over ADW home manager so I used NoBloat and Homemanager apk's so that I could switch to Go Launcher and install the Twitter and Facebook widgets. I had to fix permissions and i WIPED THE Develick cache and everything seems very responsive and smooth (i turn off all animations). Everything can be accessed on one homescreen (thanks to Go Launcher) and with cm7, no more problems with default Google widgets not loading. Once Bluetooth and Overclocking is added to the kernel (see cm7 post) the NT will be hard to beat.
I had a NT and an A100 tablets, on top of an iPad-2.
The iPad-2 cannot be beat when it comes to choice of apps and overall experience. My only problem with iPad is that any file I need to upload to my device has to be done with iTunes. And since I switch computers, iTunes is constantly removing stuff from my iPad. This for me a deal killer.
As for the other two tablets: NT and A100. I prefer by far the experience on the A100, everything is available from Google market. I don't need to sideload anything. It is multitouch, meaning that I can play piano, or other games that require more than 2 points to be recognized on the screen. The only issue I have with it is that its screen is not as bright as the NT. the A100 I own has only 8 gigs of storage, so I need to add more storage, but it is not a big problem since it has a microSD slot.
As for the NT, it's at best a glorified ereader. I don't have access to the full 16 GB of internal memory. It only recognizes 2 points on the screen. This is enough for a large number of apps, but a deal breaker for many interesting apps. I need to use Root Explorer to move files around. I rooted my NT to deal with some of the restrictions, but this is not a perfect solution. At best, it's a stop-gap solution. I can't use Google maps, as it needs my location, and I haven't figured out how to do it. The screen on the NT is definitely brighter than the A100, but it's not a big selling point in my opinion.
All in all, if I had to choose between the two, I would definitely go with the A100. It's an easy choice for me.
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I had a NT and an A100 tablets, on top of an iPad-2.
The iPad-2 cannot be beat when it comes to choice of apps and overall experience. My only problem with iPad is that any file I need to upload to my device has to be done with iTunes. And since I switch computers, iTunes is constantly removing stuff from my iPad. This for me a deal killer.
As for the other two tablets: NT and A100. I prefer by far the experience on the A100, everything is available from Google market. I don't need to sideload anything. It is multitouch, meaning that I can play piano, or other games that require more than 2 points to be recognized on the screen. The only issue I have with it is that its screen is not as bright as the NT. the A100 I own has only 8 gigs of storage, so I need to add more storage, but it is not a big problem since it has a microSD slot.
As for the NT, it's at best a glorified ereader. I don't have access to the full 16 GB of internal memory. It only recognizes 2 points on the screen. This is enough for a large number of apps, but a deal breaker for many interesting apps. I need to use Root Explorer to move files around. I rooted my NT to deal with some of the restrictions, but this is not a perfect solution. At best, it's a stop-gap solution. I can't use Google maps, as it needs my location, and I haven't figured out how to do it. The screen on the NT is definitely brighter than the A100, but it's not a big selling point in my opinion.
All in all, if I had to choose between the two, I would definitely go with the A100. It's an easy choice for me.
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You can access all the internal memory once rooted and permissions set correctly. Google maps is functional as is, but if you want to use navigator, you need to use app such as GPS tether. I am rooted using go launcher, but kept all the B&N bloat and am very pleased with the NT. I think it's great value for the money. Could it be better? Sure, but what couldn't? CM7 and CM9 will only make the NT even more attractive.
Hi All,
I know, there are many threads about KF vs NT, sorry for another one, I just haven't found my answer yet about following.
I'm visiting US and plan to buy a souvenir - either Kindle Fire or Nook Tablet. I lean towards NT slightly - because of the SD slot and RAM. I'm worried about locked bootloader however.
I would like to use the tablet for video playback, surfing the web, playing some games.
I'd like to have there ICS/CM9 one day. And that's the question. We have seen big progress in NT hacking recently, but it's definitely behind the state of KF development (of course thanks to B&N obstacles).
Is it only a matter of time and effort till NT gets working ICS (capable of reasonably smooth performance including video playback, etc.), or is it still a mystery, whether we ever get there? How big is the risk of ending with devs giving up due to some B&N obstacle?
Thanks for your opinions/knowledge, I'm scratching my head for 1,5 months already
Aleq
Based on what we're seeing with CM7 I don't see any impossible hurdles for CM9. It's just a lot more work and a much less mature project. I'd say NT is a no brainer over KF.
Cool, Nook Tablet with only 8GB of storage was introduces for $50 less, $199 total. It keeps the SD slot so I'd say that's a great deal.
I just hope no new bootloader (with new hacking countermeasures) comes with it or it gets cracked soon.
UPDATE: Too bad, the RAM has been cut from 1GB to 512MB :-(
I am a amazon prime member/amazon fanboy try to buy everything there and was really excited in the summer when I heard amazon was making their own line of tablets.
Then it was finally announced and I was like wtf seriously... 8gb or storage and no sd card slot plus the dreaded power button and no volume control buttons. I was massively disappointed and planned to wait till they updated the kindle but since the NT was on sale for 200 I bought it and couldn't be happier for my needs. Before I was using a coby tablet with lower res screen and no development since no firmware is public.
KF seems useless until updated with sd card/moved power button
Aleq said:
Hi All,
I'd like to have there ICS/CM9 one day. And that's the question. We have seen big progress in NT hacking recently, but it's definitely behind the state of KF development (of course thanks to B&N obstacles).
Aleq
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I am really interesting in this problem too, NT hardware is much better but software development it’s far behind than KF.
What B&N obstacles are you taking about?
Judging by the youtube videos I have seen, CM9 is coming along nicely. I think once a 3.0+ working kernel is working, it will only be a matter of time.
The obstacles with the NT are B&N's bootloader being locked down and continuously changing. That keeps holding up development as new fixes are constantly being needed to progress further. Now, it seems, with the introduction of the 8GB version, it seems to be stalling a bit again while current progress is ported over to that build as well. I may be wrong on that, but that's the way it seems to me.
So I bought Nook Tablet and I'm loving it. Best souvenir from vacation ever
Running so far only rooted stock 1.4.2 + Android Market. Looking at CM7, looking forward to CM9.
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Locked bootloader, new firmwares removing root and preventing old rooting methods.
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The only thing I disliked about my Nook is the fact that the B&N store is useless outside the States.
So using CM7 is pretty much obligatory for me.
That's true, but partly the same applies to Amazon Store - foreigners are not allowed to make purchases there.
Hacking - root + Market (Play, eh.) or CM7 / CM9 (it's coming!) was always the main reason for me to get one. I wouldn't be buying either of two, if it would be locked to stock forever
Were looking at picking up an eReader. I was leaning towards the Kindle Fire vs Nook Color but now read about the Nook Tablet. From what I am understanding the KF is rootable now? And at this time what one would you pick and why? I do not want to buy only to regret the decision later?
So when it comes down to the two when rooted what are their real comparisons? Can I use Android Market and Amazon Market on the Nook Tablet? Spec wise it seems the Nook Tablet blows the KF out of the water but how about actual usage?
How is the comparison between the two when they are rooted? I know I will loose cloud which means storage is severely lacking if I root the KF. But is there anything that will be lost by rooting the Nook Tablet?
Which at this time do you recommend going with and why?
If you plan to root and install a custom rom I would suggest the nook tablet. The Nook Tablet has an sd card slot which is essential if you actually plan to have any use for your tab. 8gb runs out pretty quickly and plus 1GB versus 512mb of ram is a big difference performance wise. you can install amazon market (which sucks....) and also the officially market with ease. plus booting from an sd card is nice.
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There's nothing lost by rooting the NT- it has all the same preloaded apps and B&N stuff as pre-rooted, just you have all the benefits of root access as well. (alternative launchers, market, file explorers etc.)
I've been loving the NT since I first rooted it months ago- no complaints. I've been so happy with it I haven't even delved into putting CM7 on it just yet- but I'm sure I'll eventually get around to it. But even just rooted I highly recommend it.
About a month ago we were on vacation with some friends for a week -think mountains, snow, cabin, lots of down time. Friends had a KF (stock) and I had the NT (rooted). So during that time I observed a nice real-world comparison of the two. Granted, it was a little unfair since the KF wasn't rooted also, but many of the NT's advantages aren't related to that.
1. Speed. The NT is definitely snappier. I found it faster on the web, and gaming was definitely smoother.
2. Storage. The SD card slot is awesome. It was easy to swap movies with a friend who had some on the card for his phone. The KF was left out in the cold for this (no microSD card slot on their laptop either). Also, my NT was loaded down with tons of books, movies, downloaded 3D game content, music, etc. I had no worries for storage. Meanwhile the KF owner had their usable 6GB and that's it. They didn't load up much content before the trip because you don't feel you have much room to load up.
3. Hardware volume buttons. Major convenience. A bunch of times I needed to turn the vol down real quick to hear someone- no problem without fiddling in software. I saw the KF owner have to fumble with finding onscreen vol controls to do the same.
4. Sturdy. Not like I go around dropping it, but I didn't have as much fear of doing so as the Kindle owner. The NT feels sturdier in hand, and drop-tests I've seen confirm it actually is. Also, the NT feels nicer in your hand when you hold it for long periods. The outer bezels feel nicer, rather than the all-glass front of the KF. This is something you won't notice at first glance- but a few hours into a good book you will.
5. Screen. Personally, I think the NT's screen looks at least slightly better. This could be subjective of course.
6. Battery life. I dunno if it's typical, but in this exact case the NT stomped all over the KF. I was literally amazed how much better the real-world battery life was for the NT. And I didn't excessively use power-saving settings either. The differences were very evident too due to a lack of convenient power outlets. So the KF spent more time in another room being charged than my NT did.
7. Usage comparison. We swapped and compared devices a lot. My friends were much more impressed with my NT, than I was with their KF. Again, highly subjective of course, and also partially unfair since it was stock vs. rooted + multiple hacks making the NT of course the better user experience. Even so, the NT definitely holds it own. Now apparently even more so with CM7.
To me the $50 more is nothing compared to the better value of the NT. Of course, the KF is a nice device too, I just personally would feel I'd slighted myself if I had got one instead of the NT.
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