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OK--people are talking all around this issue, and I am looking for a blunt answer. Hopefully this thread can be found easily via Google.
FACT: The GPS fix for stock Galaxy phones we all know about doesn't work for many people.
FACT: Some custom Vibrant ROMs, like Bionix, claim to have fixed the GPS issues.
QUESTION 1: Is the GPS fix in these custom ROMs the same as the one released by Samsung for the Captivate?
QUESTION 2: If not, can anyone verify the performance of the custom ROM fixes? I have seen threads on this site that suggest the GPS is even worse after using a custom ROM (including Bionix).
I am the minority it seems, but my gps is much worse after flashing Bionix 1.8 and 1.9.1. When I was stock JFD I actually created a thread complimenting my GPS.... and now it's useless. No matter how long I stay outside I can not get a lock.
I am not certain what the issue is, because some on the same ROM claim it is great. Not sure how I lost out.... and not blaming sombionix, his rom is so good I still use it even with this issue (and I consider it a big one).
I do not know enough about what he did, but I don't think much was altered from JI6.
Thanks s15274n!
I am going to do some testing...I have access to a stock Vibrant (with no GPS fix), and a stock Captivate (with recent GPS fix). I will do a "map my run" route with each (using my Nexus One and maybe even my G1 as an experiment control), then root the Vibrant with Bionix Fusion, and post my results--probably here and in a blog post. That will give me 5 separate results to compare.
The screenshots and data output should settle all the BS flying around, although I am sure that some people will claim that their particular phone has no problems whatsoever.
derfolo said:
Thanks s15274n!
I am going to do some testing...I have access to a stock Vibrant (with no GPS fix), and a stock Captivate (with recent GPS fix). I will do a "map my run" route with each (using my Nexus One and maybe even my G1 as an experiment control), then root the Vibrant with Bionix Fusion, and post my results--probably here and in a blog post. That will give me 5 separate results to compare.
The screenshots and data output should settle all the BS flying around, although I am sure that some people will claim that their particular phone has no problems whatsoever.
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Just to add my two cents, I've continued to experience horrible GPS performance despite the fix in JI6. Quite simply, it's unusable if I don't open G-Maps before I drive away from my wirless SSID.
Unfortunately, questions posted here are routinely met with "reflash" and "why can't people search? these issues have been solved a million times!". Most people seem content to assume that since it was fixed on their phone, we're too stupid to figure out how to apply this particular "fix".
This is my fifth phone. My G1, MyTouch, and Nexus One all had GPS' which worked simply and reliably. My Galaxy S phones...not so much. It's gotten to the point where I'm seriously considering paying HTC to fix the busted AMOLED screen on my Nexus One so I can go back to that and sell my Vibrant and i9000 on craigslist.
Sorry for the rant. I only meant to chime in to say "you're not the only one". I'm just frustrated.
I'll be interested to see your results if you go through with your test.
I am no Noob to Android, but am to Samsung phones. This is my first time ever encountering kernels and modems that could be flashed separately. All other Android devices I used had everything together as a single package and did not offer a kernel and modem separately.
That said, I am trying to determine a solution for a frustration of mine. I want the newest Gingerbread 2.3.6 version for my ATT Galaxy S2 (NOT Skyrocket), but every time I check for updates, my phone says that I am up to date already. Yet, there have been three newer firmware versions leaked and I dont know what this means, but I am wondering if ATT is leaving me in the dust or something.
I have tried all three of the leaked updates (UCKJ1, J2, and J4), and although the phone works perfectly fine, all versions give me an impossible to deal with problem when I am in a call with someone. The problem is that no matter who I am talking to, they all complain that they cannot hear me because my voice is randomly fading in and out to the point where they cannot hear me at all. Strangely though, when I am on UCKH7, everyone says that I come in nice and clear and no one ever complains about clarity.
So, I was wondering first, what controls the calling portion of the firmware/
ROM? I was thinking that it was the modem, but when I think of modems, I think of something controlling internet, like 3/4G and wifi.
Second, if it IS the modem that controls the calling, then what would happen if I flashed the UCKJ4 firmware and the UCKH7 modem? Will everything work?
I was thinking that since H7 seems to be the only version that doesnt give me voice problems, then by using its modem with the J4 kernel, I could have the newest firmware, but still have people hear me.
If anyone knowledgeable in this area could help me, that would be ridiculously awesome! I dont want to try this unless I am sure that I wont brick my phone or something.
BTW, the voice problem is not caused by finger over microphone or my or the other party's reception. I have tested this as thoroughly as possible and it is definitely the firmwares for some reason.
1) your modem controls both the calls and data connection.
2) you can flash the stock KH7 modem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336958&highlight=UCKH7+modem
you can do this without changing your rom or kernel. Hope that fixes your call issues (sounds like it will).
Modem controls calls and data connection, however the Samsung Noise Reduction feature is in the audio libraries within /system and to some degree in the kernel (sound drivers)
Ok, so the modem does handle calls then. Thats good to know!
For the record though, the noise suppression feature seems to have no affect on this problem of mine. It doesn't matter whether it is on or not :-\
I am CURRENTLY running KH7 modem AND kernel and no problems right now.
Soooooo... What would happen if I flashed the J4 kernel, but the KH7 modem though?
Will things work right (data, wifi, phone calls, system stability, etc)? Will I lose noise suppression?
LOL, thanks for the replies so far, but my questions were only half-answered. (Probably too much text in my OP... sorry!)
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Ok, so the modem does handle calls then. Thats good to know!
For the record though, the noise suppression feature seems to have no affect on this problem of mine. It doesn't matter whether it is on or not :-\
I am CURRENTLY running KH7 modem AND kernel and no problems right now.
Soooooo... What would happen if I flashed the J4 kernel, but the KH7 modem though?
Will things work right (data, wifi, phone calls, system stability, etc)? Will I lose noise suppression?
LOL, thanks for the replies so far, but my questions were only half-answered. (Probably too much text in my OP... sorry!)
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Most likely not much - the only case where you're likely to notice a change is if you flash my kernel, which pulled in the I9100's latest sound driver a few days ago.
Please forgive me for not fully understanding all of this.... -_-'
So, it isn't worth it to flash the J4 kernel (in order to get Gingerbread 2.3.6) and the H7 modem (to keep my phone calls clear)?
If I flashed your kernel though, how would it affect my phone?
Will I be at 2.3.6?
Would I flash your kernel, but keep the H7 modem?
Also, can you provide a link to your kernel (to make sure I find the same thing you are talking about)?
Again, forgive me for not understanding right away.
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Is anyone else having issues with the other party hearing you in call? I have a case, and no matter if I have it on or off, the other party can't hear me unless I talk louder than normal. I don't recall having to talk that loud on my iPhone to be heard. Was happening on CM7 and latest UnNamedROM.
I've encountered the same issue. I've been running unnamed since the day I got my phone, and am ocrrently on 2.2.1. I've read of others having this issue as well. I've also read somewhere that disabling the noise canceling feature supposedly helps. I've done so, but not sure if or how much it helps, as I can't hear myself from the other end. Perhaps someone else can chime in with advice regarding this topic.
So I was doing some more tests. It seems I might be holding the phone away from my face when I speak in an effort to not get face grease on the screen. Will have to do more testing to verify.
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I too have this issue whenever I use the UCKK6 modem after the OTA update. Whenever I was on the UCKH7 firmware + modem, I had no problems and when I use the UCKK6 firmware + UCKH7 modem, I also don't have problems.
When using the UCKK6 modem though, I get a LOT of people complaining that they can't hear me and will sometimes even hang up on me because they think my call dropped (I'm still there though and can hear them perfectly).
It sounds like your mouth is being muffled or like you are underwater- or like you are randomly teleporting yourself across the room, while leaving your phone in one place.
I have done several tests myself by calling my house phone with my cell and putting the house phone on mute (to prevent echo). I then hold both phones to each ear and basically talk to myself. One test even involves me saying the alphabet. I have done these tests several times using both modems.
My tests gave me the conclusion that the K6 modem is buggy, but is especially unusable with the noise suppression turned on. When on, certain syllables seem to get cancelled out by the noise suppression, as though it thinks that part of it is background noise. However, even with the noise suppression off, I still get the occassional fading of my voice, but it is extremely occassional compared to when the noise suppression feature is on, where it is almost every couple words or so.
With the H7 modem, I notice no problems whatsoever, whether the noise suppression is on or off.
So, I recommend doing one of the following if you are experiencing these issues:
1) Revert completely back to UCKH7 firmware and modem if you want/need the noise suppression.
2) Use the UCKK6 firmware with the UCKH7 modem if you want/need the noise suppression.
3) Continue using UCKK6 firmware and modem, but turn the noise suppression off.
1 and 2 are sure fire ways to not have any issues at all. 3 may still give you problems, but it may happen once every few minutes with noise suppression off (still there, but not nearly as noticeable), while once every couple syllables with the feature on (very freaking noticeable!).
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So I started having this issue a couple days ago.
I've tried going back to the KH7 modem and still not working. I even tried restoring to stock.
Mic works fine in speakerphone mode, but I get absolutely no sound otherwise (I can shout into the phone and the other side hears nothing). Noise suppression toggle doesn't do anything.
Thoughts?
I guess I'll try taking the phone into ATT this weekend.
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That sounds like hardware issues, so yeah, bring it back to ATT.
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So I started having this issue a couple days ago.
I've tried going back to the KH7 modem and still not working. I even tried restoring to stock.
Mic works fine in speakerphone mode, but I get absolutely no sound otherwise (I can shout into the phone and the other side hears nothing). Noise suppression toggle doesn't do anything.
Thoughts?
I guess I'll try taking the phone into ATT this weekend.
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If it works fine in speakerphone mode that means it isn't a hardware problem -_-
Try this. Open up your phone and...
Type this in: *#*#197328640#*#*
Click on [5] AUDIO
Click on [8] AUDIENCE SETTING
Click on [2] AUDIENCE DISABLE
then try out a test call and see if it works
Problem with mic and in call volume too low
shishir95 said:
If it works fine in speakerphone mode that means it isn't a hardware problem -_-
Try this. Open up your phone and...
Type this in: *#*#197328640#*#*
Click on [5] AUDIO
Click on [8] AUDIENCE SETTING
Click on [2] AUDIENCE DISABLE
then try out a test call and see if it works
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The above code does not work on AT&T version, I guess. At least it did not work for me. Don't know if root makes any difference, yes I can have booster apps. But again people have reported that this does not seem to work.
I happen to read in International s2 forum that opening the phone and making a bigger hole for mic helps. Or even cutting a slice of the white protective casing around the lower micophone seems to help as well. I did not want to tamper with hardware at the moment, as I am just 10 days past my warranty period.
Let me know if someone knows some funky codes to get this fixed. I am running 2.3.4 stock ROM and not rooted yet.
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The above code does not work on AT&T version, I guess. At least it did not work for me. Don't know if root makes any difference, yes I can have booster apps. But again people have reported that this does not seem to work.
I happen to read in International s2 forum that opening the phone and making a bigger hole for mic helps. Or even cutting a slice of the white protective casing around the lower micophone seems to help as well. I did not want to tamper with hardware at the moment, as I am just 10 days past my warranty period.
Let me know if someone knows some funky codes to get this fixed. I am running 2.3.4 stock ROM and not rooted yet.
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I'm on AT&T and the code worked for me, however I'm still having the issue. I don't necessarily think messing with the hardware by cutting or slicing will fix it because (for me at least) the problem is intermittent. Sometimes I'll go afew days without the problem, then I can have 3 calls back to back where the person doesn't hear me at all. It can happen both when I initiate the call or answer and it doesn't always happen in the same point of the call. This is pretty frustrating, I really hope there's a fix because I don't want to have to convert to stock and deal with AT&T.
I had this issue. Mine was not intermittent, the mic just stopped working. No amount of flashing or resets from ATT could make it work again.
Strangely enough the speakerphone worked fine and that just screams software issue, but AT&T chose to replace my hardware.
The problem seems to be intermittent for me too.... I don't know how the code works for Griffon23, as AT&T has disabled that on our model. I have not updated to 2.3.6 as the firmware ushers in loads of problems.
I really hope there is a fix, I am just being lazy to flash new roms and stuff, as I might have to return this piece of S#$#t due the low volume and poor mic. Such a shame that expensive phone like this has issues with basic functionality, voice calls.
I also tried good in ear headphones, that solves the problem of low in call volume but not microphone, which simply points that there is some internal problem. May be hardware or may br firmware. And May be ICS update can fix this for us. Fingers crossed.
Thank you Samsung!
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I too have this issue whenever I use the UCKK6 modem after the OTA update. Whenever I was on the UCKH7 firmware + modem, I had no problems and when I use the UCKK6 firmware + UCKH7 modem, I also don't have problems.
When using the UCKK6 modem though, I get a LOT of people complaining that they can't hear me and will sometimes even hang up on me because they think my call dropped (I'm still there though and can hear them perfectly).
It sounds like your mouth is being muffled or like you are underwater- or like you are randomly teleporting yourself across the room, while leaving your phone in one place.
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THIS. I was having a similar problem a while back. People were telling me that my voice was cutting in and out a lot. Not even looking for it, I found this thread and flashed the UCKH7 modem. I also read somewhere that it helps battery life too as that's what I was searching for.
Anyway, It's now been several weeks now and I had forgotten about the problem until I saw this thread again. I guess I'd have to say that the UCKH7 modem definitely solved my problems as I can't remember the last time someone complained about my voice cutting in and out.
Since this is the only thread similarly related to my issue, I'll continue this one instead of starting a new one. So I've tried the above listed suggestions and the dial code for the audio does not work for me, as a matter of fact, none of the dial codes work for my phone, I get a "Invalid MMI code or no connection" error. I Have not been able to make a call on speakerphone since I flashed my phone for the first time back when I first got it. I've switched around from different ROMs and I get the same issue. The main issue is that no one can hear me when I'm on speakerphone, but I can hear them. I can make regular calls just fine. I've even flashed back to stock and the issue still persists. Are there any suggestions? I am currently on the latest AOKP build of ICS.
If you've been flashing different ICS roms, there's a chance you flashed one of the mic-swapped kernels. Try the AOSP/AOKP version of NEAK. Make sure to wipe cache and dalvik before flashing.
EDIT: Didn't read your post closely enough, if regular calls work, the kernel shouldn't be the problem. Maybe the modem? UCKH7 is what most people report with good results, depending on area.
Have you ever been able to use the speakerphone? Do you know for certain that it works?
AoN
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I just came across this thread after a long time. I was surprised to see how much it has grown!p and how many people haod similar issues as me!
Well, I kind of wanted to give an update and suggestion for those who still have issues.
First my update. Since having these issues in UCKK6 and ICS leaks, I actually gave up on ATT's firmware and moved on to custom ROMs. Currently- and loving it- I'm on a ROM called Mystic's Pride (will be going to Mystic's Glory, a more advanced version- once it is out of Beta testing). Mystic's ROMs are ported firmwares from the international SGS2, but they use the latest ATT modems since the international version's will not work on our phones.
Using a custom ROM will NOT fix the call quality issue. That is all linked to the modem.
Now the suggestions. While running UCKK6, I discovered that you could use the UCKH7 modem with it. So for a while (until I noticed excess battery drain issues), i was using the UCKK6 firmware with the UCKH7 modem.
NO MATTER WHAT VERSION FIRMWARE YOU ARE USING (Gingerbread OR ICS), YOU CAN USE THE UCKH7 MODEM!
As I stated in my update, I am running a custom ROM now, which is Android 4.0.4. Im still using the UCKH7 modem and my calls are super clear and I am not having any issues with people hearing me.
You may be asking, "If you are now on ICS, then why not just use the latest ATT ICS modem?" The answer is simply that after all of my experiences with horrible call quality using official ATT modems, I simply do not trust them anymore. I know of one modem that works, so I have stuck with it without issues. I plan to test out the newest ICS modem though... just to see how it compares with UCKH7. If no good, then its back to KH7.
So, if you are still having issues, then try flashing the UCKH7 modem to your phone. You do not need to be rooted in order to do this. All you need is Odin and to boot into Download mode.
If you flashed the KH7 modem and still having issues, then you most likely have a hardware problem.
Another thing I noticed while still using UCKK6 with its corresponding modem is that by turning off the Noise Suppression, you can get better quality calls. However, using UCKH7 modem may make your calls clearer, but will allow you to use Noise Suppression.
I hope this helps somewhat. I have NOT sent my phones in for repairs/replacement for this issue and my calls are just as clear as the day I bought my phone.
Ill try to pop in here to answer questions, etc if needed.
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Lol spexwood, I know you're trying to be helpful, but I gotta let you know your post is way old news. It's been common knowledge for a long time that you can flash any ATT I777 modem with any firmware, using ClockworkMod Recovery. It is useful (to me at least, didn't know this before) to know you can also use Odin to flash modems if you don't have CWM, but most I777 users around here have it because they use custom kernels and ROMs. There's a whole thread which contains every single modem in CWM-flashable zips, and it also contains a Google map with notes about which modems users have reported working best for them in their respective locations; this might be helpful to you if you didn't know about it beforehand.
tl;dr - try all the different modems to see which one gives you the best speeds and call quality in your area, they are interchangeable. Use this thread to help you out.
This is one problem I've had when completely stock, ics, and jb. And it mostly occurs when I have ear phones plugged in
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Spxewood, all of what you said is common knowledge. If you're going to necro a thread, please only do so for new information
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Well EXCUSE ME for thinking that I WAS posting new information and for only trying to help people out!!!!
If you didn't like it then just ignore it!!!!!
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Hi guys,
My htc one's in call volume is absolutely way too low. I hear alot of white noise and I can hear the person. Its like the persons voice fluctuates. I thought the little speaker holes might be dirty so I blew on it to get any dust dislodged. I even had a screen protector on that I took off.
At first I thought it was the people I was calling, but its happening to every single call.
Please help!
Same issue here.
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BlackMamba08 said:
Hi guys,
My htc one's in call volume is absolutely way too low. I hear alot of white noise and I can hear the person. Its like the persons voice fluctuates. I thought the little speaker holes might be dirty so I blew on it to get any dust dislodged. I even had a screen protector on that I took off.
At first I thought it was the people I was calling, but its happening to every single call.
Please help!
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Is your phone 100% stock, rooted, google edition rom? How long has this issues been going on for? Have you master reset your phone or ran the stock ruu software?
Chirunavvutho said:
Same issue here.
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Oh thank god. Thought I was going crazy.
onthezone said:
Is your phone 100% stock, rooted, google edition rom? How long has this issues been going on for? Have you master reset your phone or ran the stock ruu software?
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Sorry, I forgot to mention this!
I am rooted using android revolution HD with elementalX kernel. I have not ran the stock software. I honestly have done so many customizations to my phone that I dont want to reset at all
Also, I think this has been going on since I got the phone, but to be honest I cannot be sure. I did not use it to make calls often until now. I've had it for about 2 months now.
I experienced the same thing on 4.2.2. It was fine on stock.
My call quality and performance improved once I flashed the radio firmware and RIL files from the latest AT&T leak; you might consider doing the same. The first link is not flashed in recovery but starts in fastboot (see the post's instructions). The second link is flashed in recovery. Doesn't really matter which you do first.
Radio only firmware zip - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44260480&postcount=95
Matching RIL files - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44255908&postcount=86
Simba501 said:
I experienced the same thing on 4.2.2. It was fine on stock.
My call quality and performance improved once I flashed the radio firmware and RIL files from the latest AT&T leak; you might consider doing the same. The first link is not flashed in recovery but starts in fastboot (see the post's instructions). The second link is flashed in recovery. Doesn't really matter which you do first.
Use the radio firmware zip - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44260480&postcount=95
This zip includes the matching RIL files - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44255908&postcount=86
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+1 This works !
On stock, the call quality is low compared to my old Note. Might be software related because boom sound is loud when playing music.
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I'm thinking of picking up a G3, but want to make sure that there's quality software to back up my hardware purchase. Are there any good Roms (or rom/kernel combinations) that anyone can recommend wherein everything pretty much works (including LTE data and USB/WiFi tether) and the artificial sharpness bug can be disabled? Marshmallow-based is preferred as I want to be able to flash one Rom and never have to worry about it again for at least a couple of years. Stock-based isn't a requirement, but it is preferable, as CM-based roms are usually lacking on hardware-specific features and optimizations.
Word on the street is that Fulmics Rom is the go-to for this criteria, but I heard somewhere between XDA and Reddit that versions 4.1 and 4.2 were the last version of Fulmics rom with properly working data for Verizon. Can anyone back this theory up?
I'm running the latest CM13 nightly build 08/02/16 and so far it seems to have fixed all issues I've had previously. Tethering and all that works, actually using foxfi tether from the phone to my tablet right now.
I have have this same question. I've been out I'd the loop for a bit with work being crazy. I am definitely looking for a good daily driver also.
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@xdabbeb 's stock rooted 47A firmware with the debloat zips in the third post and if you have unlimited data, use his tethering mod in another thread either in Development or Original Development.
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Nonanza said:
I'm running the latest CM13 nightly build 08/02/16 and so far it seems to have fixed all issues I've had previously. Tethering and all that works, actually using foxfi tether from the phone to my tablet right now.
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So stock Android doesn't actually have WiFi tethering built in? Or do you just prefer Foxfi over it because of the features and functionality offered? I'm open to trying a CM or CM-based Rom as long as everything works. Now do you have access to any of the equalizer settings with that (like Viper audio) or does it require a special kernel? How is the volume level on voice calls?
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
@xdabbeb 's stock rooted 47A firmware with the debloat zips in the third post and if you have unlimited data, use his tethering mod in another thread either in Development or Original Development.
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If I go with the G3, that'll definitely be one to try also as long as tethering works with StraightTalk.
How's the situation with audio enhancements on that Rom (Viper audio or similar) or does that require a special kernel? Is volume on calls through the device's earpiece loud enough?
Bill720 said:
If I go with the G3, that'll definitely be one to try also as long as tethering works with StraightTalk.
How's the situation with audio enhancements on that Rom (Viper audio or similar) or does that require a special kernel? Is volume on calls through the device's earpiece loud enough?
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I don't know if the built-in (or modded) tethering will work with any other carrier besides Verizon - I seem to recall some people saying it complains that it's not provisioned for it. I'm on Verizon, so can't speak from personal experience but you'd likely have to use something third party. I also don't know for sure if people only have a problem tethering on non-Verizon if they apply the modded tethering, so try it without using the mod, and then if it doesn't work, make a TWRP backup and try with @xdabbeb 's mod.
I haven't fooled with audio mods in a long time so I can't comment on that - I know some people have used Viper and/or others on his ROMs - search his thread for "viper" and you'll probably find something. I think everything on this phone is loud to very loud depending on which channel.
Note that one feature you definitely won't have on non-stock ROMs is the laser focus of the camera. No other app can work it. The camera will work, but it won't be as good. I used to dabble with CM but for my own use, it's too much trouble so I haven't fooled with it in a year or a year and a half, except on my LG G Pad 8.3, which stopped OTAs at Android 5.0.2 and it's too sluggish with it even when debloated.
Range finding
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I don't know if the built-in (or modded) tethering will work with any other carrier besides Verizon - I seem to recall some people saying it complains that it's not provisioned for it. I'm on Verizon, so can't speak from personal experience but you'd likely have to use something third party. I also don't know for sure if people only have a problem tethering on non-Verizon if they apply the modded tethering, so try it without using the mod, and then if it doesn't work, make a TWRP backup and try with @xdabbeb 's mod.
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I guess we'll just have to hope for the best when the time comes. My "upgrade season" isn't going to be until early next year at earliest, but I do want to be fully prepared.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I haven't fooled with audio mods in a long time so I can't comment on that - I know some people have used Viper and/or others on his ROMs - search his thread for "viper" and you'll probably find something. I think everything on this phone is loud to very loud depending on which channel.
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Good call. Sounds like someone found a zip that will work, so that should be worth a look. As long as there's some customizable equalizer that works universally for the headphone jack, that's the most important part of the audio side of things. From the reviews I've read, the loudspeaker on the G3 should be louder than the one on my Note2 and the earpiece can hopefully live up to the Note2's legacy as well.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Note that one feature you definitely won't have on non-stock ROMs is the laser focus of the camera. No other app can work it. The camera will work, but it won't be as good. I used to dabble with CM but for my own use, it's too much trouble so I haven't fooled with it in a year or a year and a half, except on my LG G Pad 8.3, which stopped OTAs at Android 5.0.2 and it's too sluggish with it even when debloated.
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That is good to know. Can the stock camera app be installed on a CM-based Rom or do you have to be running a stock-based Rom? I've never experienced the G3's fancy rangefinder autofocus before, but it sure sounds like a feature that would be disappointing to miss out on.
Bill720 said:
That is good to know. Can the stock camera app be installed on a CM-based Rom or do you have to be running a stock-based Rom? I've never experienced the G3's fancy rangefinder autofocus before, but it sure sounds like a feature that would be disappointing to miss out on.
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No - there's no hope for getting the stock camera app to work on non-stock ROMs.
I recently told someone else here the two things I would most highly miss if I switched from LG are their warranty service and the built-in LG Backup, which is extremely fast and can take the place of Titanium Backup for the most common things, but you can still want TB for restoring Bluetooth parings, etc. Quirks of LG Backup to just be aware of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67947945.
To add what @roirraW "edor" ehT stated as far as stock ROM, I used to run rooted. Mainly, this was due to needing TiBu. But once I discovered the LG Backup tool, I now no longer have my phone rooted. There just hasn't been a need for it as the stock ROM works pretty darned well for me. Battery life is good. As long as I'm not hunting , my phone lasts the day doing normal things like making/receiving phone calls, texting, checking news, etc.
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So stock Android doesn't actually have WiFi tethering built in? Or do you just prefer Foxfi over it because of the features and functionality offered? I'm open to trying a CM or CM-based Rom as long as everything works. Now do you have access to any of the equalizer settings with that (like Viper audio) or does it require a special kernel? How is the volume level on voice calls?
If I go with the G3, that'll definitely be one to try also as long as tethering works with StraightTalk.
How's the situation with audio enhancements on that Rom (Viper audio or similar) or does that require a special kernel? Is volume on calls through the device's earpiece loud enough?
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If I recall correctly the stock ROM does have hotspot built into it, but you need to have hotspot in the plan you use for your carrier. I have the unlimited everything plan with T-Mobile currently so I don't have to use foxfi but I did pay for so I Figured why not. CM13 does have hotspot built in and it works just fine. Though I haven't tested USB tethering yet.
My call quality has been absolutely superb.
Built into the ROM is also an equalizer called AudioFX which is honestly my favourite equalizer, it gives you different options based on what you have the phone hooked up to or if you even have the phone just running audio through the speakers. I'll actually go ahead and try running Viper ( never tried it before) on here now and report back with my findings.
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So Viper works perfectly fine.
I disabled AudioFX using [root] App disabler
You need to have root enabled, then the SELinux Mode Changer installed and set to permissive, then just install the Viper apk and let it install the drivers and you are good to go.
*Note I did not test installing Viper via flashing it.
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
No - there's no hope for getting the stock camera app to work on non-stock ROMs.
I recently told someone else here the two things I would most highly miss if I switched from LG are their warranty service and the built-in LG Backup, which is extremely fast and can take the place of Titanium Backup for the most common things, but you can still want TB for restoring Bluetooth parings, etc. Quirks of LG Backup to just be aware of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67947945.
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Yeah, after years of being screwed over by Samsung's garbage Amoled screens, I have decided that no future primary device of mine will ever have one again. It's too bad because the Note2 has been fantastic other than that stupid screen with its green tint that has to be defeated using a custom kernel (which seriously limits the already-pathetic Rom selection) and annoying burn-in that never goes away.
I also tried the One M7, which, despite its tiny screen, is actually a solid device, but the terrible camera alone is bad enough to turn me off to it. Side by side, the Note 2's camera is better in most conditions (and that's a circa-2012 device!) and I just can't justify that kind of a drop in quality from an upgrade, so the G3 is the next runner up for me. As long as its lone screen idiosyncrasy (the artificial sharpness inherent with the stock rom) can be defeated, it sounds like a win to me.
Nonanza said:
If I recall correctly the stock ROM does have hotspot built into it, but you need to have hotspot in the plan you use for your carrier.
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Yeah, I'm not paying for something twice. That is just not an option for me, mainly out of principal. I don't tether that much, but when I need it, the ability needs to be there without any intentionally-sabotaged software getting in the way.
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My call quality has been absolutely superb.
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Good. That's what I wanted to hear. Is the volume loud enough to hear even in a loud enviroment? The reason I ask is because the Note2 is actually quite quiet by default, but there's this special Samsung feature called "my call sound" which tailors the audio output frequencies to your ear's strengths and weaknesses. It basically subjects the user to a hearing test while wearing earbuds and then applies an equalizer to the earpiece for phone calls based on the results, which makes the volume very loud, even at the lowest setting.
Nonanza said:
If I recall correctly the stock ROM does have hotspot built into it, but you need to have hotspot in the plan you use for your carrier. I have the unlimited everything plan with T-Mobile currently so I don't have to use foxfi but I did pay for so I Figured why not. CM13 does have hotspot built in and it works just fine. Though I haven't tested USB tethering yet.
My call quality has been absolutely superb.
Built into the ROM is also an equalizer called AudioFX which is honestly my favourite equalizer, it gives you different options based on what you have the phone hooked up to or if you even have the phone just running audio through the speakers. I'll actually go ahead and try running Viper ( never tried it before) on here now and report back with my findings.
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So Viper works perfectly fine.
I disabled AudioFX using [root] App disabler
You need to have root enabled, then the SELinux Mode Changer installed and set to permissive, then just install the Viper apk and let it install the drivers and you are good to go.
*Note I did not test installing Viper via flashing it.
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Bill720 said:
Yeah, after years of being screwed over by Samsung's garbage Amoled screens, I have decided that no future primary device of mine will ever have one again. It's too bad because the Note2 has been fantastic other than that stupid screen with its green tint that has to be defeated using a custom kernel (which seriously limits the already-pathetic Rom selection) and annoying burn-in that never goes away.
I also tried the One M7, which, despite its tiny screen, is actually a solid device, but the terrible camera alone is bad enough to turn me off to it. Side by side, the Note 2's camera is better in most conditions (and that's a circa-2012 device!) and I just can't justify that kind of a drop in quality from an upgrade, so the G3 is the next runner up for me. As long as its lone screen idiosyncrasy (the artificial sharpness inherent with the stock rom) can be defeated, it sounds like a win to me.
Yeah, I'm not paying for something twice. That is just not an option for me, mainly out of principal. I don't tether that much, but when I need it, the ability needs to be there without any intentionally-sabotaged software getting in the way.
Good. That's what I wanted to hear. Is the volume loud enough to hear even in a loud enviroment? The reason I ask is because the Note2 is actually quite quiet by default, but there's this special Samsung feature called "my call sound" which tailors the audio output frequencies to your ear's strengths and weaknesses. It basically subjects the user to a hearing test while wearing earbuds and then applies an equalizer to the earpiece for phone calls based on the results, which makes the volume very loud, even at the lowest setting.
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If you have unlimited data on Verizon, and you don't flash the hotspot mod, then you have to pay Verizon to use tethering. If you don't have unlimited data on Verizon, you don't have to do anything/pay anything additional to use the built-in hotspot. Using on another carrier like Straight Talk that he is (unless I'm confusing with another thread) is a different animal though.
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Good. That's what I wanted to hear. Is the volume loud enough to hear even in a loud enviroment? The reason I ask is because the Note2 is actually quite quiet by default, but there's this special Samsung feature called "my call sound" which tailors the audio output frequencies to your ear's strengths and weaknesses. It basically subjects the user to a hearing test while wearing earbuds and then applies an equalizer to the earpiece for phone calls based on the results, which makes the volume very loud, even at the lowest setting.
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The volume has been plenty loud for me when I'm out on the streets trying to catch 'em all, with people yelling and vehicles driving by with their noisy exhaust. I haven't tested it with the train going by but I usually can't even hear myself talk while it's passing.
On a side note the speaker on the back is of fair quality as well, I'm the type of person that likes to listen to music all day and the speaker has given me no issues or moments where I feel like I'd need to invest in a wireless speaker to tote around, granted it doesn't have bass but I don't ever expect there to be a bass driver in a phone that's just silly.
The only complaint I have with this phone is that it has a tendency to overheat with my usage, like right now it's at 35°C from me streaming and typing this response. When I play Pokémon go even at night, specifically last night for example it was reaching 42°C fairly quickly even with Coolify running, still trying to determine if it's the processor or the fact that a certain company that supposedly makes 10mil a day can't be bothered to hire coders that can program and optimize on the level of 10 year olds .
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Also wasn't to happy about all the hoops one needs to jump through in order to install custom recovery and even root the device in the first place.
testing the waters
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
If you have unlimited data on Verizon, and you don't flash the hotspot mod, then you have to pay Verizon to use tethering. If you don't have unlimited data on Verizon, you don't have to do anything/pay anything additional to use the built-in hotspot. Using on another carrier like Straight Talk that he is (unless I'm confusing with another thread) is a different animal though.
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Yeah, that was me asking in that other thread . Anybody here using their Verizon G3 on one of the prepaid carriers that can comment on the functionality?
Nonanza said:
The volume has been plenty loud for me when I'm out on the streets trying to catch 'em all, with people yelling and vehicles driving by with their noisy exhaust. I haven't tested it with the train going by but I usually can't even hear myself talk while it's passing.
On a side note the speaker on the back is of fair quality as well, I'm the type of person that likes to listen to music all day and the speaker has given me no issues or moments where I feel like I'd need to invest in a wireless speaker to tote around, granted it doesn't have bass but I don't ever expect there to be a bass driver in a phone that's just silly.
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Sounds like the sound system on the G3 is a go :good:.
Nonanza said:
The only complaint I have with this phone is that it has a tendency to overheat with my usage, like right now it's at 35°C from me streaming and typing this response. When I play Pokémon go even at night, specifically last night for example it was reaching 42°C fairly quickly even with Coolify running, still trying to determine if it's the processor or the fact that a certain company that supposedly makes 10mil a day can't be bothered to hire coders that can program and optimize on the level of 10 year olds .
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When you say "overheat", do you just mean that the phone starts to feel too warm?
Nonanza said:
Also wasn't to happy about all the hoops one needs to jump through in order to install custom recovery and even root the device in the first place.
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What's the story on that?
Bill720 said:
When you say "overheat", do you just mean that the phone starts to feel too warm?
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I mean the phone is literally getting to 100 degrees Fahrenheit and above at times which to my knowledge is not so good for a phone as the components arn't likely designed to be that hot, it will also physically feel hot and it starts to slow down.
As far as the process I had to do on my phone is as follows.
Since it was running the stock 5.1.1 firmware I was unable to get the one click root method to work ( found in another thread) so I had to
1. Use the Chinese root known as king root
2. Convert that to SuperSU and get the king root gone (apparently adds extra sketchy stuff)
3. Use the LG flash tool to downgrade to the firmware
a. Had to change device to com31 or 41 In device manager and find the proper files.
4. Then root the device with stumproot.apk
5 . them install twrp
6. Then flash the 35b bootstack along with cyanogen and the gapps.
Took me 2 hours
Hi guys,
I just bought my Verizon G3 used on Sunday night and, although I'm currently using it as a Wi-Fi only device, I thought I may still be of help.
The same night I bought it I successfully rooted, added TWRP Recovery (Used "Bump" method found in Original Android Development), and flashed a modified stock ROM (SkyDragon). Upon research and confirmation by a member, I found out that pretty much all ROMs are now pre-bumped, and flashed Resurrection Remix a day or two later.
All this bump stuff can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...pment/bump-unlock-lg-g3-twrp-verizon-t2900590
You need root before you add Bump'd TWRP, and after failure with a no longer functioning method, I rooted with this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197
If you need the official modems or bootstacks, they can be found in these threads:
Modem & Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/development/rom-jasminerom-v1-0-t2904641
MODEM IS ALSO IN BOOTSTACKS
Bootstacks (Don't know if there's more around): http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/development/xdabbeb-s-vs980-2-0-0-t3231279
In case you go to RR, I believe it needs 35B Modem and Bootstacks.
Now, I read here that the laser focus no longer works on custom ROMs, but I still see the red light flickering in the back (on RR ROM). So does it or not? Please un-noobify me and have mercy I haven't researched the Verizon G3 section since Tuesday.
I never tried the speaker without Viper4Android, but I think it sounds great with it.
I'm still not sure what the temperarure should be but at the moment CPU Temp Xposed moduled indicates around 140°F (60°C) and GSam Battery Monitor reports current battery temperature as 103°F (39.44°C). These temperatures seem a little high to me (CPU really), but I've never really paid attention to temp data on my other devices so I don't know what to make of it. I currently have and Otterbox case on, which does increase temperature, but not too much, as I've seen, maybe only 1-3 degrees, or maybe nothing at all...I still have to observe more.
I'm currently using RR as my daily driver and get what I believe is about 4:30 - 5:30 sot. I don't play heavy games and never have location on...need to try out with my bluetooth headset with music only. I get no discharge when I sleep the device at night (I turn everything off + 24/7 airplane mode, Greenify with Xposed, Aggressive doze from Greenify, DS Battery Saver to back it up, and soon to come wake lock and alarm modifications but probably will never arrive as I'm fine with sleep and everything off)
I was quite entertained typing that. It's probablh the most I've typed in one post here on XDA. I hope it helps you at least some and others as well. Maybe I went too far...I forgot what the OP asked while I was typing lol
Thanks for reading
EDIT: I was initially on Android 5.0.1 and 24B stock firmware
dirty_smurf45 said:
Hi guys,
If you need the official modems or bootstacks, they can be found in these threads:
Modem & Kernel:
Bootstacks (Don't know if there's more around):
In case you go to RR, I believe it needs 35B Modem and Bootstacks.
EDIT: I was initially on Android 5.0.1 and 24B stock firmware
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Hi! Just wanted to let you know the Bootstacks contain the modem, so unless you need, for instance, a 12B Modem on 24B Bootstack, etc, there's no need to flash a modem separately. If you were going to flash a different modem, you'd have to flash it after flashing the Bootstack, since the modem in the Bootstack would overwrite any modem you previously falshed. Post #2 of @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 ROM thread tells all about what the Bootstacks contain. These are the only already packaged Bootstacks. For lower than 35B, you could make Bootstacks out of 23C, 11C or 10B, but usually someone will be on at least the very last release within a major version of Android (24B and 12B).
In case I didn't tell you elsewhere, or for anyone else reading this, a 46A/47A Bootstack would be unuseable because the 46/7A modem requires the 46/7A sbl1 partition, TWRP and root require the 12B aboot (bootloader), and the 46/7A sbl1 in combination with the 12B aboot causes a QHSUSB_BULK 9008 mode brick, so that's why we have to use the 35B Bootstack with 46A and 47A. I haven't tested yet, and probably won't bother, but I'm sure the same is true of the newly released 48A.
Also wanted to let you know that root method only works up through 24B. 35B and higher require KingRoot as far as I know, and so far the same versions of KingRoot that are able to temporarily (and invasively) root 46/7A won't root 48A.
That is all.
Edit: Also, you accidentally put the root thread link in where the modem and kernel thread is supposed to be. I'm sure you were just meaning @bweN diorD 's stickied thread in the General section. I think he has up through 35B in there. "Maybe" 46A too - I forget.
Noted, noted, noted, and noted. Thanks!!
Btw I meant the modems and kernels found in the JasmineROM thread
I use PA as my daily driver. Super fast. Not just saying that because I maintain it.
Roms!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
If you have unlimited data on Verizon, and you don't flash the hotspot mod, then you have to pay Verizon to use tethering. If you don't have unlimited data on Verizon, you don't have to do anything/pay anything additional to use the built-in hotspot. Using on another carrier like Straight Talk that he is (unless I'm confusing with another thread) is a different animal though.
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Do you know if the behavior would be any different than it would be on a completely stock rom? I tested the stock tethering capability on an OG Droid Razzur using the bone stock rom, and (predictably enough) it won't even try to enable the hotspot feature with a Tracfone BYOD sim card and service.
Nonanza said:
I mean the phone is literally getting to 100 degrees Fahrenheit and above at times which to my knowledge is not so good for a phone as the components arn't likely designed to be that hot, it will also physically feel hot and it starts to slow down.
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Sounds like you're working it too hard . I think any phone would increase in temperature a bit when you're taxing it, although it's my understanding from the original AnandTech review that the G3 throttles itself down dynamically even in the stock rom to keep thermals under control.
Nonanza said:
down.
As far as the process I had to do on my phone is as follows.
Since it was running the stock 5.1.1 firmware I was unable to get the one click root method to work ( found in another thread) so I had to
1. Use the Chinese root known as king root
2. Convert that to SuperSU and get the king root gone (apparently adds extra sketchy stuff)
3. Use the LG flash tool to downgrade to the firmware
a. Had to change device to com31 or 41 In device manager and find the proper files.
4. Then root the device with stumproot.apk
5 . them install twrp
6. Then flash the 35b bootstack along with cyanogen and the gapps.
Took me 2 hours
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It's good to have it all here on one page, but a bummer that it's such an annoying process.
dirty_smurf45 said:
Hi guys,
I just bought my Verizon G3 used on Sunday night and, although I'm currently using it as a Wi-Fi only device, I thought I may still be of help.
The same night I bought it I successfully rooted, added TWRP Recovery (Used "Bump" method found in Original Android Development), and flashed a modified stock ROM (SkyDragon). Upon research and confirmation by a member, I found out that pretty much all ROMs are now pre-bumped, and flashed Resurrection Remix a day or two later.
...
Now, I read here that the laser focus no longer works on custom ROMs, but I still see the red light flickering in the back (on RR ROM). So does it or not? Please un-noobify me and have mercy I haven't researched the Verizon G3 section since Tuesday.
I was quite entertained typing that. It's probablh the most I've typed in one post here on XDA. I hope it helps you at least some and others as well. Maybe I went too far...I forgot what the OP asked while I was typing lol
Thanks for reading
EDIT: I was initially on Android 5.0.1 and 24B stock firmware
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Thanks for sharing. Since SkyDragon appears to be based on the stock rom, it's no wonder that the rangefinder for the camera works. What's the word on disabling the artificial sharpness on that rom though? I couldn't find anything on it in a quick search of the Op or even the entire thread.
Millennium2 said:
I use PA as my daily driver. Super fast. Not just saying that because I maintain it.
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Interesting choice. Beside the rangefinder, are there any other features or goodies that non-LG-based Roms would lack?