[Q] Any good "daily driver" Roms on the Verizon G3?

[Q] Any good "daily driver" Roms on the Verizon G3? - Verizon LG G3

I'm thinking of picking up a G3, but want to make sure that there's quality software to back up my hardware purchase. Are there any good Roms (or rom/kernel combinations) that anyone can recommend wherein everything pretty much works (including LTE data and USB/WiFi tether) and the artificial sharpness bug can be disabled? Marshmallow-based is preferred as I want to be able to flash one Rom and never have to worry about it again for at least a couple of years. Stock-based isn't a requirement, but it is preferable, as CM-based roms are usually lacking on hardware-specific features and optimizations.
Word on the street is that Fulmics Rom is the go-to for this criteria, but I heard somewhere between XDA and Reddit that versions 4.1 and 4.2 were the last version of Fulmics rom with properly working data for Verizon. Can anyone back this theory up?

I'm running the latest CM13 nightly build 08/02/16 and so far it seems to have fixed all issues I've had previously. Tethering and all that works, actually using foxfi tether from the phone to my tablet right now.

I have have this same question. I've been out I'd the loop for a bit with work being crazy. I am definitely looking for a good daily driver also.
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@xdabbeb 's stock rooted 47A firmware with the debloat zips in the third post and if you have unlimited data, use his tethering mod in another thread either in Development or Original Development.

Sound and Vision
Nonanza said:
I'm running the latest CM13 nightly build 08/02/16 and so far it seems to have fixed all issues I've had previously. Tethering and all that works, actually using foxfi tether from the phone to my tablet right now.
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So stock Android doesn't actually have WiFi tethering built in? Or do you just prefer Foxfi over it because of the features and functionality offered? I'm open to trying a CM or CM-based Rom as long as everything works. Now do you have access to any of the equalizer settings with that (like Viper audio) or does it require a special kernel? How is the volume level on voice calls?
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
@xdabbeb 's stock rooted 47A firmware with the debloat zips in the third post and if you have unlimited data, use his tethering mod in another thread either in Development or Original Development.
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If I go with the G3, that'll definitely be one to try also as long as tethering works with StraightTalk.
How's the situation with audio enhancements on that Rom (Viper audio or similar) or does that require a special kernel? Is volume on calls through the device's earpiece loud enough?

Bill720 said:
If I go with the G3, that'll definitely be one to try also as long as tethering works with StraightTalk.
How's the situation with audio enhancements on that Rom (Viper audio or similar) or does that require a special kernel? Is volume on calls through the device's earpiece loud enough?
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I don't know if the built-in (or modded) tethering will work with any other carrier besides Verizon - I seem to recall some people saying it complains that it's not provisioned for it. I'm on Verizon, so can't speak from personal experience but you'd likely have to use something third party. I also don't know for sure if people only have a problem tethering on non-Verizon if they apply the modded tethering, so try it without using the mod, and then if it doesn't work, make a TWRP backup and try with @xdabbeb 's mod.
I haven't fooled with audio mods in a long time so I can't comment on that - I know some people have used Viper and/or others on his ROMs - search his thread for "viper" and you'll probably find something. I think everything on this phone is loud to very loud depending on which channel.
Note that one feature you definitely won't have on non-stock ROMs is the laser focus of the camera. No other app can work it. The camera will work, but it won't be as good. I used to dabble with CM but for my own use, it's too much trouble so I haven't fooled with it in a year or a year and a half, except on my LG G Pad 8.3, which stopped OTAs at Android 5.0.2 and it's too sluggish with it even when debloated.

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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I don't know if the built-in (or modded) tethering will work with any other carrier besides Verizon - I seem to recall some people saying it complains that it's not provisioned for it. I'm on Verizon, so can't speak from personal experience but you'd likely have to use something third party. I also don't know for sure if people only have a problem tethering on non-Verizon if they apply the modded tethering, so try it without using the mod, and then if it doesn't work, make a TWRP backup and try with @xdabbeb 's mod.
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I guess we'll just have to hope for the best when the time comes. My "upgrade season" isn't going to be until early next year at earliest, but I do want to be fully prepared.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I haven't fooled with audio mods in a long time so I can't comment on that - I know some people have used Viper and/or others on his ROMs - search his thread for "viper" and you'll probably find something. I think everything on this phone is loud to very loud depending on which channel.
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Good call. Sounds like someone found a zip that will work, so that should be worth a look. As long as there's some customizable equalizer that works universally for the headphone jack, that's the most important part of the audio side of things. From the reviews I've read, the loudspeaker on the G3 should be louder than the one on my Note2 and the earpiece can hopefully live up to the Note2's legacy as well.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Note that one feature you definitely won't have on non-stock ROMs is the laser focus of the camera. No other app can work it. The camera will work, but it won't be as good. I used to dabble with CM but for my own use, it's too much trouble so I haven't fooled with it in a year or a year and a half, except on my LG G Pad 8.3, which stopped OTAs at Android 5.0.2 and it's too sluggish with it even when debloated.
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That is good to know. Can the stock camera app be installed on a CM-based Rom or do you have to be running a stock-based Rom? I've never experienced the G3's fancy rangefinder autofocus before, but it sure sounds like a feature that would be disappointing to miss out on.

Bill720 said:
That is good to know. Can the stock camera app be installed on a CM-based Rom or do you have to be running a stock-based Rom? I've never experienced the G3's fancy rangefinder autofocus before, but it sure sounds like a feature that would be disappointing to miss out on.
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No - there's no hope for getting the stock camera app to work on non-stock ROMs.
I recently told someone else here the two things I would most highly miss if I switched from LG are their warranty service and the built-in LG Backup, which is extremely fast and can take the place of Titanium Backup for the most common things, but you can still want TB for restoring Bluetooth parings, etc. Quirks of LG Backup to just be aware of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67947945.

To add what @roirraW "edor" ehT stated as far as stock ROM, I used to run rooted. Mainly, this was due to needing TiBu. But once I discovered the LG Backup tool, I now no longer have my phone rooted. There just hasn't been a need for it as the stock ROM works pretty darned well for me. Battery life is good. As long as I'm not hunting , my phone lasts the day doing normal things like making/receiving phone calls, texting, checking news, etc.

Bill720 said:
So stock Android doesn't actually have WiFi tethering built in? Or do you just prefer Foxfi over it because of the features and functionality offered? I'm open to trying a CM or CM-based Rom as long as everything works. Now do you have access to any of the equalizer settings with that (like Viper audio) or does it require a special kernel? How is the volume level on voice calls?
If I go with the G3, that'll definitely be one to try also as long as tethering works with StraightTalk.
How's the situation with audio enhancements on that Rom (Viper audio or similar) or does that require a special kernel? Is volume on calls through the device's earpiece loud enough?
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If I recall correctly the stock ROM does have hotspot built into it, but you need to have hotspot in the plan you use for your carrier. I have the unlimited everything plan with T-Mobile currently so I don't have to use foxfi but I did pay for so I Figured why not. CM13 does have hotspot built in and it works just fine. Though I haven't tested USB tethering yet.
My call quality has been absolutely superb.
Built into the ROM is also an equalizer called AudioFX which is honestly my favourite equalizer, it gives you different options based on what you have the phone hooked up to or if you even have the phone just running audio through the speakers. I'll actually go ahead and try running Viper ( never tried it before) on here now and report back with my findings.
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So Viper works perfectly fine.
I disabled AudioFX using [root] App disabler
You need to have root enabled, then the SELinux Mode Changer installed and set to permissive, then just install the Viper apk and let it install the drivers and you are good to go.
*Note I did not test installing Viper via flashing it.

sound and vision 2
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
No - there's no hope for getting the stock camera app to work on non-stock ROMs.
I recently told someone else here the two things I would most highly miss if I switched from LG are their warranty service and the built-in LG Backup, which is extremely fast and can take the place of Titanium Backup for the most common things, but you can still want TB for restoring Bluetooth parings, etc. Quirks of LG Backup to just be aware of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67947945.
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Yeah, after years of being screwed over by Samsung's garbage Amoled screens, I have decided that no future primary device of mine will ever have one again. It's too bad because the Note2 has been fantastic other than that stupid screen with its green tint that has to be defeated using a custom kernel (which seriously limits the already-pathetic Rom selection) and annoying burn-in that never goes away.
I also tried the One M7, which, despite its tiny screen, is actually a solid device, but the terrible camera alone is bad enough to turn me off to it. Side by side, the Note 2's camera is better in most conditions (and that's a circa-2012 device!) and I just can't justify that kind of a drop in quality from an upgrade, so the G3 is the next runner up for me. As long as its lone screen idiosyncrasy (the artificial sharpness inherent with the stock rom) can be defeated, it sounds like a win to me.
Nonanza said:
If I recall correctly the stock ROM does have hotspot built into it, but you need to have hotspot in the plan you use for your carrier.
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Yeah, I'm not paying for something twice. That is just not an option for me, mainly out of principal. I don't tether that much, but when I need it, the ability needs to be there without any intentionally-sabotaged software getting in the way.
Nonanza said:
My call quality has been absolutely superb.
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Good. That's what I wanted to hear. Is the volume loud enough to hear even in a loud enviroment? The reason I ask is because the Note2 is actually quite quiet by default, but there's this special Samsung feature called "my call sound" which tailors the audio output frequencies to your ear's strengths and weaknesses. It basically subjects the user to a hearing test while wearing earbuds and then applies an equalizer to the earpiece for phone calls based on the results, which makes the volume very loud, even at the lowest setting.

Nonanza said:
If I recall correctly the stock ROM does have hotspot built into it, but you need to have hotspot in the plan you use for your carrier. I have the unlimited everything plan with T-Mobile currently so I don't have to use foxfi but I did pay for so I Figured why not. CM13 does have hotspot built in and it works just fine. Though I haven't tested USB tethering yet.
My call quality has been absolutely superb.
Built into the ROM is also an equalizer called AudioFX which is honestly my favourite equalizer, it gives you different options based on what you have the phone hooked up to or if you even have the phone just running audio through the speakers. I'll actually go ahead and try running Viper ( never tried it before) on here now and report back with my findings.
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So Viper works perfectly fine.
I disabled AudioFX using [root] App disabler
You need to have root enabled, then the SELinux Mode Changer installed and set to permissive, then just install the Viper apk and let it install the drivers and you are good to go.
*Note I did not test installing Viper via flashing it.
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Bill720 said:
Yeah, after years of being screwed over by Samsung's garbage Amoled screens, I have decided that no future primary device of mine will ever have one again. It's too bad because the Note2 has been fantastic other than that stupid screen with its green tint that has to be defeated using a custom kernel (which seriously limits the already-pathetic Rom selection) and annoying burn-in that never goes away.
I also tried the One M7, which, despite its tiny screen, is actually a solid device, but the terrible camera alone is bad enough to turn me off to it. Side by side, the Note 2's camera is better in most conditions (and that's a circa-2012 device!) and I just can't justify that kind of a drop in quality from an upgrade, so the G3 is the next runner up for me. As long as its lone screen idiosyncrasy (the artificial sharpness inherent with the stock rom) can be defeated, it sounds like a win to me.
Yeah, I'm not paying for something twice. That is just not an option for me, mainly out of principal. I don't tether that much, but when I need it, the ability needs to be there without any intentionally-sabotaged software getting in the way.
Good. That's what I wanted to hear. Is the volume loud enough to hear even in a loud enviroment? The reason I ask is because the Note2 is actually quite quiet by default, but there's this special Samsung feature called "my call sound" which tailors the audio output frequencies to your ear's strengths and weaknesses. It basically subjects the user to a hearing test while wearing earbuds and then applies an equalizer to the earpiece for phone calls based on the results, which makes the volume very loud, even at the lowest setting.
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If you have unlimited data on Verizon, and you don't flash the hotspot mod, then you have to pay Verizon to use tethering. If you don't have unlimited data on Verizon, you don't have to do anything/pay anything additional to use the built-in hotspot. Using on another carrier like Straight Talk that he is (unless I'm confusing with another thread) is a different animal though.

Bill720 said:
Good. That's what I wanted to hear. Is the volume loud enough to hear even in a loud enviroment? The reason I ask is because the Note2 is actually quite quiet by default, but there's this special Samsung feature called "my call sound" which tailors the audio output frequencies to your ear's strengths and weaknesses. It basically subjects the user to a hearing test while wearing earbuds and then applies an equalizer to the earpiece for phone calls based on the results, which makes the volume very loud, even at the lowest setting.
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The volume has been plenty loud for me when I'm out on the streets trying to catch 'em all, with people yelling and vehicles driving by with their noisy exhaust. I haven't tested it with the train going by but I usually can't even hear myself talk while it's passing.
On a side note the speaker on the back is of fair quality as well, I'm the type of person that likes to listen to music all day and the speaker has given me no issues or moments where I feel like I'd need to invest in a wireless speaker to tote around, granted it doesn't have bass but I don't ever expect there to be a bass driver in a phone that's just silly.
The only complaint I have with this phone is that it has a tendency to overheat with my usage, like right now it's at 35Â°C from me streaming and typing this response. When I play PokÃ©mon go even at night, specifically last night for example it was reaching 42Â°C fairly quickly even with Coolify running, still trying to determine if it's the processor or the fact that a certain company that supposedly makes 10mil a day can't be bothered to hire coders that can program and optimize on the level of 10 year olds .
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Also wasn't to happy about all the hoops one needs to jump through in order to install custom recovery and even root the device in the first place.

testing the waters
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
If you have unlimited data on Verizon, and you don't flash the hotspot mod, then you have to pay Verizon to use tethering. If you don't have unlimited data on Verizon, you don't have to do anything/pay anything additional to use the built-in hotspot. Using on another carrier like Straight Talk that he is (unless I'm confusing with another thread) is a different animal though.
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Yeah, that was me asking in that other thread . Anybody here using their Verizon G3 on one of the prepaid carriers that can comment on the functionality?
Nonanza said:
The volume has been plenty loud for me when I'm out on the streets trying to catch 'em all, with people yelling and vehicles driving by with their noisy exhaust. I haven't tested it with the train going by but I usually can't even hear myself talk while it's passing.
On a side note the speaker on the back is of fair quality as well, I'm the type of person that likes to listen to music all day and the speaker has given me no issues or moments where I feel like I'd need to invest in a wireless speaker to tote around, granted it doesn't have bass but I don't ever expect there to be a bass driver in a phone that's just silly.
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Sounds like the sound system on the G3 is a go :good:.
Nonanza said:
The only complaint I have with this phone is that it has a tendency to overheat with my usage, like right now it's at 35Â°C from me streaming and typing this response. When I play PokÃ©mon go even at night, specifically last night for example it was reaching 42Â°C fairly quickly even with Coolify running, still trying to determine if it's the processor or the fact that a certain company that supposedly makes 10mil a day can't be bothered to hire coders that can program and optimize on the level of 10 year olds .
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When you say "overheat", do you just mean that the phone starts to feel too warm?
Nonanza said:
Also wasn't to happy about all the hoops one needs to jump through in order to install custom recovery and even root the device in the first place.
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What's the story on that?

Bill720 said:
When you say "overheat", do you just mean that the phone starts to feel too warm?
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I mean the phone is literally getting to 100 degrees Fahrenheit and above at times which to my knowledge is not so good for a phone as the components arn't likely designed to be that hot, it will also physically feel hot and it starts to slow down.
As far as the process I had to do on my phone is as follows.
Since it was running the stock 5.1.1 firmware I was unable to get the one click root method to work ( found in another thread) so I had to
1. Use the Chinese root known as king root
2. Convert that to SuperSU and get the king root gone (apparently adds extra sketchy stuff)
3. Use the LG flash tool to downgrade to the firmware
a. Had to change device to com31 or 41 In device manager and find the proper files.
4. Then root the device with stumproot.apk
5 . them install twrp
6. Then flash the 35b bootstack along with cyanogen and the gapps.
Took me 2 hours

Hi guys,
I just bought my Verizon G3 used on Sunday night and, although I'm currently using it as a Wi-Fi only device, I thought I may still be of help.
The same night I bought it I successfully rooted, added TWRP Recovery (Used "Bump" method found in Original Android Development), and flashed a modified stock ROM (SkyDragon). Upon research and confirmation by a member, I found out that pretty much all ROMs are now pre-bumped, and flashed Resurrection Remix a day or two later.
All this bump stuff can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...pment/bump-unlock-lg-g3-twrp-verizon-t2900590
You need root before you add Bump'd TWRP, and after failure with a no longer functioning method, I rooted with this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197
If you need the official modems or bootstacks, they can be found in these threads:
Modem & Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/development/rom-jasminerom-v1-0-t2904641
MODEM IS ALSO IN BOOTSTACKS
Bootstacks (Don't know if there's more around): http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/development/xdabbeb-s-vs980-2-0-0-t3231279
In case you go to RR, I believe it needs 35B Modem and Bootstacks.
Now, I read here that the laser focus no longer works on custom ROMs, but I still see the red light flickering in the back (on RR ROM). So does it or not? Please un-noobify me and have mercy I haven't researched the Verizon G3 section since Tuesday.
I never tried the speaker without Viper4Android, but I think it sounds great with it.
I'm still not sure what the temperarure should be but at the moment CPU Temp Xposed moduled indicates around 140°F (60°C) and GSam Battery Monitor reports current battery temperature as 103°F (39.44°C). These temperatures seem a little high to me (CPU really), but I've never really paid attention to temp data on my other devices so I don't know what to make of it. I currently have and Otterbox case on, which does increase temperature, but not too much, as I've seen, maybe only 1-3 degrees, or maybe nothing at all...I still have to observe more.
I'm currently using RR as my daily driver and get what I believe is about 4:30 - 5:30 sot. I don't play heavy games and never have location on...need to try out with my bluetooth headset with music only. I get no discharge when I sleep the device at night (I turn everything off + 24/7 airplane mode, Greenify with Xposed, Aggressive doze from Greenify, DS Battery Saver to back it up, and soon to come wake lock and alarm modifications but probably will never arrive as I'm fine with sleep and everything off)
I was quite entertained typing that. It's probablh the most I've typed in one post here on XDA. I hope it helps you at least some and others as well. Maybe I went too far...I forgot what the OP asked while I was typing lol
Thanks for reading
EDIT: I was initially on Android 5.0.1 and 24B stock firmware

dirty_smurf45 said:
Hi guys,
If you need the official modems or bootstacks, they can be found in these threads:
Modem & Kernel:
Bootstacks (Don't know if there's more around):
In case you go to RR, I believe it needs 35B Modem and Bootstacks.
EDIT: I was initially on Android 5.0.1 and 24B stock firmware
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Hi! Just wanted to let you know the Bootstacks contain the modem, so unless you need, for instance, a 12B Modem on 24B Bootstack, etc, there's no need to flash a modem separately. If you were going to flash a different modem, you'd have to flash it after flashing the Bootstack, since the modem in the Bootstack would overwrite any modem you previously falshed. Post #2 of @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 ROM thread tells all about what the Bootstacks contain. These are the only already packaged Bootstacks. For lower than 35B, you could make Bootstacks out of 23C, 11C or 10B, but usually someone will be on at least the very last release within a major version of Android (24B and 12B).
In case I didn't tell you elsewhere, or for anyone else reading this, a 46A/47A Bootstack would be unuseable because the 46/7A modem requires the 46/7A sbl1 partition, TWRP and root require the 12B aboot (bootloader), and the 46/7A sbl1 in combination with the 12B aboot causes a QHSUSB_BULK 9008 mode brick, so that's why we have to use the 35B Bootstack with 46A and 47A. I haven't tested yet, and probably won't bother, but I'm sure the same is true of the newly released 48A.
Also wanted to let you know that root method only works up through 24B. 35B and higher require KingRoot as far as I know, and so far the same versions of KingRoot that are able to temporarily (and invasively) root 46/7A won't root 48A.
That is all.
Edit: Also, you accidentally put the root thread link in where the modem and kernel thread is supposed to be. I'm sure you were just meaning @bweN diorD 's stickied thread in the General section. I think he has up through 35B in there. "Maybe" 46A too - I forget.

Noted, noted, noted, and noted. Thanks!!
Btw I meant the modems and kernels found in the JasmineROM thread

I use PA as my daily driver. Super fast. Not just saying that because I maintain it.

Roms!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
If you have unlimited data on Verizon, and you don't flash the hotspot mod, then you have to pay Verizon to use tethering. If you don't have unlimited data on Verizon, you don't have to do anything/pay anything additional to use the built-in hotspot. Using on another carrier like Straight Talk that he is (unless I'm confusing with another thread) is a different animal though.
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Do you know if the behavior would be any different than it would be on a completely stock rom? I tested the stock tethering capability on an OG Droid Razzur using the bone stock rom, and (predictably enough) it won't even try to enable the hotspot feature with a Tracfone BYOD sim card and service.
Nonanza said:
I mean the phone is literally getting to 100 degrees Fahrenheit and above at times which to my knowledge is not so good for a phone as the components arn't likely designed to be that hot, it will also physically feel hot and it starts to slow down.
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Sounds like you're working it too hard . I think any phone would increase in temperature a bit when you're taxing it, although it's my understanding from the original AnandTech review that the G3 throttles itself down dynamically even in the stock rom to keep thermals under control.
Nonanza said:
down.
As far as the process I had to do on my phone is as follows.
Since it was running the stock 5.1.1 firmware I was unable to get the one click root method to work ( found in another thread) so I had to
1. Use the Chinese root known as king root
2. Convert that to SuperSU and get the king root gone (apparently adds extra sketchy stuff)
3. Use the LG flash tool to downgrade to the firmware
a. Had to change device to com31 or 41 In device manager and find the proper files.
4. Then root the device with stumproot.apk
5 . them install twrp
6. Then flash the 35b bootstack along with cyanogen and the gapps.
Took me 2 hours
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It's good to have it all here on one page, but a bummer that it's such an annoying process.
dirty_smurf45 said:
Hi guys,
I just bought my Verizon G3 used on Sunday night and, although I'm currently using it as a Wi-Fi only device, I thought I may still be of help.
The same night I bought it I successfully rooted, added TWRP Recovery (Used "Bump" method found in Original Android Development), and flashed a modified stock ROM (SkyDragon). Upon research and confirmation by a member, I found out that pretty much all ROMs are now pre-bumped, and flashed Resurrection Remix a day or two later.
...
Now, I read here that the laser focus no longer works on custom ROMs, but I still see the red light flickering in the back (on RR ROM). So does it or not? Please un-noobify me and have mercy I haven't researched the Verizon G3 section since Tuesday.
I was quite entertained typing that. It's probablh the most I've typed in one post here on XDA. I hope it helps you at least some and others as well. Maybe I went too far...I forgot what the OP asked while I was typing lol
Thanks for reading
EDIT: I was initially on Android 5.0.1 and 24B stock firmware
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Thanks for sharing. Since SkyDragon appears to be based on the stock rom, it's no wonder that the rangefinder for the camera works. What's the word on disabling the artificial sharpness on that rom though? I couldn't find anything on it in a quick search of the Op or even the entire thread.
Millennium2 said:
I use PA as my daily driver. Super fast. Not just saying that because I maintain it.
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Interesting choice. Beside the rangefinder, are there any other features or goodies that non-LG-based Roms would lack?

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questions about this phone,might buy for xmas

How's the GPS? How's the call quality? The captivate's GPS sucked. The Atrix's call quality is okay. Looks like Odin is still needed for flashing. Still need it for a clean flash for a new ROM?
Please and thanks in advance.

Gps is amazing! Coming from the captivate I completely know what you mean. Finally have rock solid gps connection.
Call quality on my end has been superb. Wouldn't mind the speaker to be a little louder but it's not too quiet. No one has had any difficulty hearing me during a phone call. Been a few times driving that people thought I was at home. Couldn't hear any background noises from the car.
Odin is only getting used to root and take back to stock. Using it for anything else trips the flash counter. Haven't come across anybody who flashed a rom with problems from not going to stock first. Well there was one guy but he somehow had seriously jacked up wifi issues.
Sent from my páhhōniē

Deggy said:
How's the GPS? How's the call quality? The captivate's GPS sucked. The Atrix's call quality is okay. Looks like Odin is still needed for flashing. Still need it for a clean flash for a new ROM?
Please and thanks in advance.
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GPS and call quality is amazing. I only needed Odin to initially root but since then, I rarely need to use it. I wipe and flash right from CWM.

This device is one of the best androids ever released hands down. You wont be disappointed.
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I say get it. Prices have come down since I bought it last month And yes, call quality is great, the GPS has not let me down. It's like night and day between SGS and SGS2.
I'm currently running stock but rooted. Still great as-is. (Am I missing something for not running a cooked ROM? That's for another thread.)

GPS is great, call quality is great, in theory you MIGHT be able to root and flash a custom kernel using the new zergRush exploit now.
Easier to just use Odin or Heimdall (open-source version of Odin) though.

Coming from a Captivate, these are my Pros:
- Better and bigger screen
- Better day-to-day battery life
- Better WiFi and Cell reception (in my specific home environment)
- Better camera & finally a led flash
- Excellent GPS
- NFC (eventually)
- Exynos CPU + Mali GPU + 1GB RAM
- Build quality (*)
- Noticeably lighter
* - Some may prefer the Captivate's sliding lock door mechanism, but there's no doubt my particular i777 is sturdier overall than my i897.
A few drawbacks I've found are the similar lack of FM radio that the Captivate had, and that flashing via ODIN increases an internal hardware protected counter. The i897 had CPU security hardware as well, but it was completely disabled by default. Also, my particular Captivate was fairly unbrickable, having used One-Click ODIN maybe 120-140 times without incident to recover from anything I had done to it... Not sure the same exists for the i777. Finally, the lack of Voodoo Sound (due to different on-board ADC) and the lack of tuned display settings is annoying.
Eventually everything except for Voodoo Sound and the FM radio will get fixed. But fair warning coming straight from a heavily customized CM7 Captivate...

if you don't get a case with any metal in it (including brushed aluminum) the GPS is stellar. I've not had any problems with call quality ever, and no problems with GPS once I got rid of my case with Brushed Aluminum on the back.

Deggy said:
How's the GPS? How's the call quality? The captivate's GPS sucked. The Atrix's call quality is okay. Looks like Odin is still needed for flashing. Still need it for a clean flash for a new ROM?
Please and thanks in advance.
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This is my first Android phone, and both GPS and Call quality are better than my past iPhone 3GS. As for Odin, if you use the zergRush exploit then get Mobile Odin Pro (once it's updated with compatibility, any day now) you'll never need Odin to flash roms.

Anyone want an Atrix + $100 for a SGS2?
Is the recovery still the same from the Captivate via Rom manager? Flashing roms still as simple as downloading a zip and flashing via recovery? How brickable is the device?

I'll simply say that every positive comment mentioned in this thread thus far I'd agree with. The phone is excellent in every aspect!

Extremely easy to flash cwm recovery and play with roms

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Extremely easy to flash cwm recovery and play with roms
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And next to impossible to brick. As long as you don't flash bootloaders you're good. (And even in that regard, we seem somewhat more resilient since the PBL is hardcoded and hence uncorruptible - not sure if anyone has tried recovering from a corrupt SBL yet, I haven't even heard of anyone corrupting their SBL.)
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N4 conversion VS LGOG based AOSP/CM/AOKP etc etc?

So what are the pros and cons.... I know about the partition. Are they any other issues with the conversion? If you came back from N4 what made you come back? Cos after the SD card, NFC and LTE fix what else was broken? Thanks in advance.

Googler_1976 said:
So what are the pros and cons.... I know about the partition. Are they any other issues with the conversion? If you came back from N4 what made you come back? Cos after the SD card, NFC and LTE fix what else was broken? Thanks in advance.
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My main reason for doing the conversion was to get hybrid ROMs like Rootbox or PACman (which weren't available natively on LGOG at the time). To me, really the only pro is a larger selection of ROMs. This isn't necesarily a better selection, just bigger - it depends on what you are specifically looking for in a ROM as to whether this makes it worth it or not.
With the available fixes already posted, there really aren't any huge cons either - GPS works, camera works, you get full internal storage and external SD support. However, there were cases I ran across where I couldn't get certain fixes working with certain ROMs - things like touch key lights not working and the like. I'm sure they are fixable in these cases, it just takes someone smarter than me to figure out how.
I think the main reason the conversion is frowned upon is that there isn't a compelling, across-all-ROMs improvement or feature that would be available on a converted device that isn't available on the 'native' track. So why risk a brick monkeying with partition layouts and potentially dangerous N4 install scripts (apparently some of them flash using partition numbers rather than names, and this will kill ya dead - gotta read carefully. I never ran across one).
I had minimal issues when running converted ( I think I was running that way for 3 weeks or so maybe?? Can't remember). Most of the issues were things that were more annoyances, rather than real usage problems. However, as my main reason for converting was to get a hybrid ROM, once houstonn brought Rootbox to the LGOG natively, I decided to come back. I'm usually a little short on time, and it was getting difficult to keep up with all the LGOG threads, plus all the N4 ROM threads, plus figuring out how to fix the ROMs for use on the LGOG. It's easy here, a one stop shop for LGOG learning, if you will...
I suspect with the native 4.2.2 stuff running around here now, there will be a steady decrease in the amount of 'development' on conversion stuff - it seems quite a bit quieter now than it was a month or 2 ago. I'd rather stay where the action is, as that's usually where the little remaining issues get solved first.
FWIW, I had no issues either converting to, or back from, N4. The threads here do a good job of spelling out the process - it's just a matter of reading through them enough times to understand what is going on and what to expect at each step.

Thanks for writing up your experience... The main reason I asked this question was... Some of the (if not all of them) AOSP Roms have major issues like if GPS works something else will be broken and if something else worksworks other is broken. But I did not see that in N4 conversion. (At least to my knowledge) I'm just talking about just pure aosp Roms. ..is this a trurt statement I'm making? Thanks in advance.

Googler_1976 said:
Thanks for writing up your experience... The main reason I asked this question was... Some of the (if not all of them) AOSP Roms have major issues like if GPS works something else will be broken and if something else worksworks other is broken. But I did not see that in N4 conversion. (At least to my knowledge) I'm just talking about just pure aosp Roms. ..is this a trurt statement I'm making? Thanks in advance.
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I can't say for certain - most of these 'tradeoff' issues, at least from what I've seen, seem to revolve around which modem you choose to run. I believe, at the moment the only 100% no issue setup is and ICS ROM with ICS modem. I believe these issues persist whether you are on N4 conversion or native LGOG setup - but I could be wrong here.
Here's the basic breakdown - somebody correct me if I'm wrong on these, I haven't run most of these setups personally:
If you run ICS modem on JB ROM, you get broken GPS.
If you run .33 N4 modem you get good GPS and Data speeds, but occasional data drops. Also, apparently you can't make outgoing calls in LTE coverage. You can fix the data connection by toggling airplane mode. This isn't a huge issue for most people, but is for me as I use Google voice and IM apps for messaging (rather than SMS) so if I don't notice the data drop and toggle, I'm missing messages.
If you run ATT JB modem on JB ROMs you get working GPS, decent data speed, and working LTE calling. All Outgoing calls drop to a background process after initiation, so if after hitting dial you need to interact with the call, you have to open the notification drawer and then click on the call to foreground it. Does not impact actual functioning of the call. Network name is reported as 'maritime' rather than AT&T.
I think there's another N4 modem that will work with LTE (.27 maybe - somebody jump in here) so that might be another option...I haven't tried it. there is one N4 modem that breaks LTE support.
I've been almost exclusively on houstonn's RootBox since coming back to native setup - so I may have missed issues with other ROMs - I do try to keep up with all the threads though. Hopefully someone else on one of the others can chime in with other issues, if there are any, that I missed. FWIW, I have never lost GPS on my device...I'm not sure why some have and some haven't...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270319
One stop shopping for all your radio needs.

Thanks again both of you... t I wanted to know why and I think I got what I was looking for.. Anyway, I guess I will stick with my rooted stock JB for now till some of these issues get resolved. Thanks again for all your time.

Brand new Galaxy S4 MK2; Hyperdrive Bluetooth issues

I had an unlocked S4, which took an unfortunate dive and ended up non-functioning. I used my phone insurance to acquire a new (unfortuantely) updated phone running the full MK2 suite. First order of business was a root & install of SafeStrap, followed by installation of Hyperdrive to Rom Slot 1. I use my phone with my 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek's bluetooth handsfree for both calling and media playback, and I use this feature EVERY SINGLE DAY. Unfortunately, not any more. I cannot get more than 15 seconds of connected time over bluetooth with the phone. I've tried multiple wipes. I'm fairly certain the issue doesn't exist on stock rom; so I may end up just customizing a stock rom in slot 1 by removing absolutely everything and building it from the ground up, since I don't have to use the (apparently buggy) mk2 modules.
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I'm seriously considering selling this phone and getting something more friendly to modding, this is a repeat of the Droid Bionic at this point.

Is there a question here? Did the stock rom blue tooth work ok?
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And this is why I shouldn't hastily write a post.
Yes there should be a question:
What can I try to fix the issue of frequent (alarmingly) bluetooth disconnects?
What kind of logging can I do to try and help provide developers with the information to fix this?
Anybody else have this problem? Any experience fixing it?
If I can't get this fixed, I have no choice but to move to another phone. Preferably at Verizon's expense.
Even more irritating: The phone is listed as compatible with the Crosstrek. I'm going to test that it works fine using the stock rom and bluetooth, and factory resetting my head unit.

Did you install the MK2 modules after installing Hyperdrive?

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Did you install the MK2 modules after installing Hyperdrive?
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Yes. Originally when I installed it WiFi and Bluetooth didn't work at all. I realized quickly my error was the lack of installing the MK2 modules. I wiped and installed again, this time ensuring the MK2 modules followed the rom install. I got everything set up the way I like to, and began day to day use of the phone. Since then I have had the bluetooth connectivity problems I described above.

Bluetooth is rock solid on stock. I'd really rather not have to play this game where I can install stock or.... basically stock... and now that I'm locked kernel and radio wise if I have issues further with OTAs I'm just as stuck with a near useless phone as I was with my Bionic

I'm afraid that I don't have anything else for you, except try a different ROM. Bonestock or Eclipse? Bluetooth works pretty good for me with multiple headsets and vehicles. My only issue with Bluetooth is not all the apps will pass metadata to my truck. This happens with all 3 of these ROMs and I think it is a TW 4.3 limitation.
Are you doing anything to boost the Bluetooth volume? With my previous phone I boosted the Bluetooth volume via some hacks and my truck would not like it.
I know what you mean about having a locked down phone. I came to the S4 via a warranty replacement from an unlocked S3 running SlimBean and SlimKat.The problem is that most of the new phone that are coming out all have bootloader hurdles.

I'm having the same issue with my SGH-M919 (T-Mobile) running rooted stock TW. I've documented my issues and a few LogCats here. Have you figured out a solution?

Rooted! Thinking About Un Rooting And Updating to 4.4.2! Did Not Trip Knox! Help?

I have rooted my Sprint Note 3 a few times now without tripping KNOX. I am currently rooted and thinking about un-rooting and going back to stock via update of KitKat 4.4.2.
I have un-rooted without tripping KNOX either.
My main reason I want to do this is because I got a new car stereo that has Bluetooth audio and voice. Everything works perfectly and connects excepts that sometimes while listening to music something cuts out for like a split second. The phone is right next to the car stereo.
The car stereo unit is the Jensen VX4010
Sprint Note 3
I do not think the Jensen VX4010 has a bios update or will ever.
The only think I can think of is that the Bluetooth software on 4.3 is a little dated.
If I update to the latest Android software I am thinking this might fix the issue. I think the latest android update has Bluetooth AVRCP and 4.3 does not. I could be wrong.
Options:
1. Do you think this is a possible problem?
2. Has Google fixed all the problems with KitKat or is it still a nightmare? Like Battery Drain issues?
3. Should I just wait and deal with this Bluetooth issue?
4. Is there a way to just update to the latest Bluetooth technology and just stick with 4.3?
Thank you for reading and I look forward to your comments.

Ill be pretty straight forward here..
Jensen is known for budget low cost ( low feature) equipment in the car audio world. Its not total junk and its gotten alot better in recent years compared to how they were before Audiovox bought them out, but you get what you pay for. That head unit retails for around $240 compared to other brands that start at $350-400. You sacrifice features and build quality. ( its like comparing your Galaxy Note 3 to a galaxy S2 Mini)
The clipping you are getting I will put money on is your deck.
I don't think updating your phone will improve it, I would test another device and see if you can duplicate the cutting out.. And also try connecting to a different bluetooth device on your Note 3 and see if you experience it.. then you can rule out if its the deck or the phone.
My money is on the deck though as the problem.

Astrongtower said:
I have rooted my Sprint Note 3 a few times now without tripping KNOX. I am currently rooted and thinking about un-rooting and going back to stock via update of KitKat 4.4.2.
I have un-rooted without tripping KNOX either.
My main reason I want to do this is because I got a new car stereo that has Bluetooth audio and voice. Everything works perfectly and connects excepts that sometimes while listening to music something cuts out for like a split second. The phone is right next to the car stereo.
The car stereo unit is the Jensen VX4010
Sprint Note 3
I do not think the Jensen VX4010 has a bios update or will ever.
The only think I can think of is that the Bluetooth software on 4.3 is a little dated.
If I update to the latest Android software I am thinking this might fix the issue. I think the latest android update has Bluetooth AVRCP and 4.3 does not. I could be wrong.
Options:
1.Do you think this is a possible problem?
2.Has Google fixed all the problems with KitKat or is it still a nightmare? Like Battery Drain issues?
3.Should I just wait and deal with this Bluetooth issue?
4.Is there a way to just update to the latest Bluetooth technology and just stick with 4.3?
Thank you for reading and I look forward to your comments.
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Closest thing I can find that may give you hope. Most definitely an issue for those enjoying this feature, but looks that the update fixed the issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473555&page=6
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chaosrecords said:
Ill be pretty straight forward here..
Jensen is known for budget low cost ( low feature) equipment in the car audio world. Its not total junk and its gotten alot better in recent years compared to how they were before Audiovox bought them out, but you get what you pay for. That head unit retails for around $240 compared to other brands that start at $350-400. You sacrifice features and build quality. ( its like comparing your Galaxy Note 3 to a galaxy S2 Mini)
The clipping you are getting I will put money on is your deck.
I don't think updating your phone will improve it, I would test another device and see if you can duplicate the cutting out.. And also try connecting to a different bluetooth device on your Note 3 and see if you experience it.. then you can rule out if its the deck or the phone.
My money is on the deck though as the problem.
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Not that I think of it. I have paired this in a Scion before and this never happened. and I have paired it with a JBL Charge and played Disc Golf for hours without a single hiccup.
So it must be the deck. Or bad connection between Android and Jensen VX4010.
Please advice because if this is true I am going back to the place where I got it installed and return it and get a pioneer. This is going to be a major hassle and I am sure they are going to give me a hard time but will do it.
micmars said:
Closest thing I can find that may give you hope. Most definitely an issue for those enjoying this feature, but looks that the update fixed the issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473555&page=6
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Ok I have read the thread. Not seeing an exact correction but it does appear that if you update it will run better. Do you know if the blue tooth will drain battery or if they fixed the battery drain because once I update I can not go back unless something new has come out since last time I checked.
Please advise and read above post because I will be in a major jam tomorrow in order to return my stereo unit and or upgrade to 4.4.2 permanently and I never really had to in the first place.

Astrongtower said:
Not that I think of it. I have paired this in a Scion before and this never happened. and I have paired it with a JBL Charge and played Disc Golf for hours without a single hiccup.
So it must be the deck. Or bad connection between Android and Jensen VX4010.
Please advice because if this is true I am going back to the place where I got it installed and return it and get a pioneer. This is going to be a major hassle and I am sure they are going to give me a hard time but will do it.
Ok I have read the thread. Not seeing an exact correction but it does appear that if you update it will run better. Do you know if the blue tooth will drain battery or if they fixed the battery drain because once I update I can not go back unless something new has come out since last time I checked.
Please advise and read above post because I will be in a major jam tomorrow in order to return my stereo unit and or upgrade to 4.4.2 permanently and I never really had to in the first place.
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I am unclear on many of the issues to which you refer with relation to the specific device you're using, as I don't use them.
I linked the thread due to your specific reference to Bluetooth and AVRCP.
That page to which I linked mentioned it being compatible with the AT&T Note 3 running KitKat.
As to Bluetooth drain being an issue that's been resolved or no on TouchWiz KitKat, I cannot answer, since I use a Bluetooth headset only, and have had zero issues. Others have reported Bluetooth battery drain since this phone was first released.
As to your choice to upgrade or no, I, unfortunately, cannot provide such a definitive answer as you seem to need.
If you wish to play it safe, then I suppose your safest bet is to not upgrade. The alternative has too many ifs and little certainty.
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chaosrecords said:
Ill be pretty straight forward here..
Jensen is known for budget low cost ( low feature) equipment in the car audio world. Its not total junk and its gotten alot better in recent years compared to how they were before Audiovox bought them out, but you get what you pay for. That head unit retails for around $240 compared to other brands that start at $350-400. You sacrifice features and build quality. ( its like comparing your Galaxy Note 3 to a galaxy S2 Mini)
The clipping you are getting I will put money on is your deck.
I don't think updating your phone will improve it, I would test another device and see if you can duplicate the cutting out.. And also try connecting to a different bluetooth device on your Note 3 and see if you experience it.. then you can rule out if its the deck or the phone.
My money is on the deck though as the problem.
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Update!
Ok so I returned the Jensen and got the Pioneer AVH-X7500BT!
Looks like this was a good idea. Bluetooth is great! Much more options.
The only question I have is …
Pandora all of the information shows up like what song it is and who is singing. But for Bluetooth neither this unit nor the other unit displayed information. I am just surprised that these decks can’t show that for 2013/2014 Decks.
I still have not un-rooted my phone and nor do I think I will now. I am just still thinking that if I update to 4.4.2 and get the new updated BT Software on my phone maybe it will transfer song information.
Can anyone verify this?
Other than the song information everything is working great on the pioneer.

Astrongtower said:
Update!
Ok so I returned the Jensen and got the Pioneer AVH-X7500BT!
Looks like this was a good idea. Bluetooth is great! Much more options.
The only question I have is …
Pandora all of the information shows up like what song it is and who is singing. But for Bluetooth neither this unit nor the other unit displayed information. I am just surprised that these decks can’t show that for 2013/2014 Decks.
I still have not un-rooted my phone and nor do I think I will now. I am just still thinking that if I update to 4.4.2 and get the new updated BT Software on my phone maybe it will transfer song information.
Can anyone verify this?
Other than the song information everything is working great on the pioneer.
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Try a different note with 4.4.2 before you update because once you do update there is no going back to 4.3 .... so try and see if it will work before doing the update and maybe messing something else up
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Epix4G said:
Try a different note with 4.4.2 before you update because once you do update there is no going back to 4.3 .... so try and see if it will work before doing the update and maybe messing something else up
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Man that is a brilliant idea. I can stop by the Sprint Store or something and have one of the Tech's come out with their note 3 or something. See if it works and if it does I will update and if it doesn't Ill just keep what I have.
Great Idea!

Astrongtower said:
Update!
Ok so I returned the Jensen and got the Pioneer AVH-X7500BT!
Looks like this was a good idea. Bluetooth is great! Much more options.
The only question I have is …
Pandora all of the information shows up like what song it is and who is singing. But for Bluetooth neither this unit nor the other unit displayed information. I am just surprised that these decks can’t show that for 2013/2014 Decks.
I still have not un-rooted my phone and nor do I think I will now. I am just still thinking that if I update to 4.4.2 and get the new updated BT Software on my phone maybe it will transfer song information.
Can anyone verify this?
Other than the song information everything is working great on the pioneer.
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Bluetooth wont usually sync the picture and album art with most radios.
Pioneer is a good choice!
The radio itself has to have its own Pandora app to display what you are looking for... Bluetooth just streams the audio through with third party apps.. and when you use the music apps it sends the song information from the file its playing. There may be a pioneer app on the play store to do this for you with pandora/etc.. I still use my Pioneer Premier radio from 2006 ( Premier line was amazing then) I know pioneer has a thing called "Appradio" which uses MHL connection to your phone to use the phone display as the headunit so all your apps/etc work on the screen.
That may be the direction you want to go in.. if that matters the most to you.
Also- Rooting wont affect anything with your bluetooth- Everything will work just like it did before if you root. You just void warranty if you trip knox.. you only need root if you want to install roms, remove system apps, or install apps that require root access ( being able to write to your /system directory) like Titanium Backup, Tethering Apps, Flashlights.. etc..
Ive rooted every device ive ever gotten my hands on- I go through phones every 6-9 months, and I rent cars and use bluetooth with every model out there and they all work great with my note 3 regardless what rom i have. Only time i ever had a problem was when the phone was overheating..

chaosrecords said:
Bluetooth wont usually sync the picture and album art with most radios.
Pioneer is a good choice!
The radio itself has to have its own Pandora app to display what you are looking for... Bluetooth just streams the audio through with third party apps.. and when you use the music apps it sends the song information from the file its playing. There may be a pioneer app on the play store to do this for you with pandora/etc.. I still use my Pioneer Premier radio from 2006 ( Premier line was amazing then) I know pioneer has a thing called "Appradio" which uses MHL connection to your phone to use the phone display as the headunit so all your apps/etc work on the screen.
That may be the direction you want to go in.. if that matters the most to you.
Also- Rooting wont affect anything with your bluetooth- Everything will work just like it did before if you root. You just void warranty if you trip knox.. you only need root if you want to install roms, remove system apps, or install apps that require root access ( being able to write to your /system directory) like Titanium Backup, Tethering Apps, Flashlights.. etc..
Ive rooted every device ive ever gotten my hands on- I go through phones every 6-9 months, and I rent cars and use bluetooth with every model out there and they all work great with my note 3 regardless what rom i have. Only time i ever had a problem was when the phone was overheating..
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Thank you so much for all this valuable information. I will try to do everything you have suggested and you let you know how it goes. I am so glad I got rid of that Jensen. I did like how the USB and the Audio Out was right on the Dash but I can get over that.
Again Thank You! Will be trying all this out!

Astrongtower said:
Thank you so much for all this valuable information. I will try to do everything you have suggested and you let you know how it goes. I am so glad I got rid of that Jensen. I did like how the USB and the Audio Out was right on the Dash but I can get over that.
Again Thank You! Will be trying all this out!
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You can definitely get rooted again on the latest firmware.
I just did an Odin One Click to the latest version ( Nc5 Firmware) with WiFi Calling
-used CF Auto Root to root again with Odin
-installed TWRP recovery with Odin-
-installed Freeza's Fre3 rom 2.1, flashed the 400mb update to 2.6, then flashed the theme pack thats in the thread there and my phone works great.
I also changed my LCD Density to 320 so my phones UI fits alot more on the screen like I do with most of my roms I flash.
As far as bluetooth goes I didnt notice any differences... The only problem I ever have when dealing with roms is when I use Cyanogenmod roms, or anything AOSP based I have issues with the volume being too low.. but lately Ive been on Freeza's rom and sometimes switch to Josh Beach's roms ( kitkatkiller) both are highly recommended and are based on stock samsung firmware thats themed and de-bloated.

Astrongtower said:
Awesome I will check all that as well. I kept my phone rooted so far on 4.3. I might just flash all your stuff now that Chainfire has come out with a reset flash counter not that its a big deal anyways anymore. Note 3 is getting a little dated and the newness is wearing off so I am not worried about it. Works great.
I tried AppRaido with little luck. Everything works perfect but it does not show any song information on the screen.
What I would love to have is a Music Player that plays FOLDERS and shows SONG INFORMATION on the DECK. I am doubting that this is probably impossible.
If you have any other great ideas please shoot.
Looking forward to searching for more cool apps on Android to see if they are compatible. Just wish their was an App that can force the information on the screen.
I did use the built in Pandora function and everything shows up including the song information. That is awesome. Why can't there be an App that pushing the Song Information to the Deck.
Okay so I think I read the question wrong. But I recently rooted my phone sprint note 3 using the towelroot method without Knox being tripped. I unrooted my phone or broke my root purposely by deleting the .su binaries from the system bin using ESfile explorer. Look up that technique on YouTube for more directions. It worked for me. Flixster works just fine. And the root checker did not see that my phone was rooted after I used this technique. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYz4E9nO2kM . Now if you have a custom recovery or a custom rom then this method can be a hassle. And I suggest you search for a Odin technique.
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kaice30 said:
Astrongtower said:
Awesome I will check all that as well. I kept my phone rooted so far on 4.3. I might just flash all your stuff now that Chainfire has come out with a reset flash counter not that its a big deal anyways anymore. Note 3 is getting a little dated and the newness is wearing off so I am not worried about it. Works great.
I tried AppRaido with little luck. Everything works perfect but it does not show any song information on the screen.
What I would love to have is a Music Player that plays FOLDERS and shows SONG INFORMATION on the DECK. I am doubting that this is probably impossible.
If you have any other great ideas please shoot.
Looking forward to searching for more cool apps on Android to see if they are compatible. Just wish their was an App that can force the information on the screen.
I did use the built in Pandora function and everything shows up including the song information. That is awesome. Why can't there be an App that pushing the Song Information to the Deck.
Okay so I think I read the question wrong. But I recently rooted my phone sprint note 3 using the towelroot method without Knox being tripped. I unrooted my phone or broke my root purposely by deleting the .su binaries from the system bin using ESfile explorer. Look up that technique on YouTube for more directions. It worked for me. Flixster works just fine. And the root checker did not see that my phone was rooted after I used this technique. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYz4E9nO2kM . Now if you have a custom recovery or a custom rom then this method can be a hassle. And I suggest you search for a Odin technique.
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I apologize. But I am unsure what you are trying to explain.
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I would definitely try another phone with 4.4 before updating. I for one truly hate 4.4. So much so, that I'm considering trading my gn3 for a gn2 just to get rid of it.

Skunk Ape1 said:
I would definitely try another phone with 4.4 before updating. I for one truly hate 4.4. So much so, that I'm considering trading my gn3 for a gn2 just to get rid of it.
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Could you please tell me why you hate it so much?
Here is the deal I just went to the Sprint Store and tried a Galaxy S4 with 4.4.2 on it and it showed all song data on any app that was used to my car stereo deck.
So then I thought hey maybe its the app.
Well ... Come to find out. The default apps do play the song data to my car stereo deck but Mort Player the player that I like does not. It does how ever play on 4.4.2.
Mort Player - Song data comes over to deck
4.3 = No
4.4 = Yes
Defult Music Players
4.3 = Yes
4.4 = Yes
Now I can keep my 4.3 and find a player that can push music information and display information over current settings via 4.3 like the default players do. Or upgrade to 4.4.2 and enjoy my music player with song information listed. Then I would just have to deal with everything else that everyone hates though.
Please list what you hate so I can decide which avenue to take please.

Astrongtower said:
Could you please tell me why you hate it so much?
Here is the deal I just went to the Sprint Store and tried a Galaxy S4 with 4.4.2 on it and it showed all song data on any app that was used to my car stereo deck.
So then I thought hey maybe its the app.
Well ... Come to find out. The default apps do play the song data to my car stereo deck but Mort Player the player that I like does not. It does how ever play on 4.4.2.
Mort Player - Song data comes over to deck
4.3 = No
4.4 = Yes
Defult Music Players
4.3 = Yes
4.4 = Yes
Now I can keep my 4.3 and find a player that can push music information and display information over current settings via 4.3 like the default players do. Or upgrade to 4.4.2 and enjoy my music player with song information listed. Then I would just have to deal with everything else that everyone hates though.
Please list what you hate so I can decide which avenue to take please.
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What I hate has little to do with features and more to do with how much harder it is to do things as a themer. It is ass ugly and harder to theme properly. I want to tell Google and Samsung to _______themselves as they are attempting to stop us from changing things. Say what you want about how great Android platform is. Within a few years it will be locked down as tight as the iPhone. 4.4 is step 1 in that process and therefore bad.

chaosrecords said:
You can definitely get rooted again on the latest firmware.
I just did an Odin One Click to the latest version ( Nc5 Firmware) with WiFi Calling
-used CF Auto Root to root again with Odin
-installed TWRP recovery with Odin-
-installed Freeza's Fre3 rom 2.1, flashed the 400mb update to 2.6, then flashed the theme pack thats in the thread there and my phone works great.
I also changed my LCD Density to 320 so my phones UI fits alot more on the screen like I do with most of my roms I flash.
As far as bluetooth goes I didnt notice any differences... The only problem I ever have when dealing with roms is when I use Cyanogenmod roms, or anything AOSP based I have issues with the volume being too low.. but lately Ive been on Freeza's rom and sometimes switch to Josh Beach's roms ( kitkatkiller) both are highly recommended and are based on stock samsung firmware thats themed and de-bloated.
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kaice30 said:
Astrongtower said:
Awesome I will check all that as well. I kept my phone rooted so far on 4.3. I might just flash all your stuff now that Chainfire has come out with a reset flash counter not that its a big deal anyways anymore. Note 3 is getting a little dated and the newness is wearing off so I am not worried about it. Works great.
I tried AppRaido with little luck. Everything works perfect but it does not show any song information on the screen.
What I would love to have is a Music Player that plays FOLDERS and shows SONG INFORMATION on the DECK. I am doubting that this is probably impossible.
If you have any other great ideas please shoot.
Looking forward to searching for more cool apps on Android to see if they are compatible. Just wish their was an App that can force the information on the screen.
I did use the built in Pandora function and everything shows up including the song information. That is awesome. Why can't there be an App that pushing the Song Information to the Deck.
Okay so I think I read the question wrong. But I recently rooted my phone sprint note 3 using the towelroot method without Knox being tripped. I unrooted my phone or broke my root purposely by deleting the .su binaries from the system bin using ESfile explorer. Look up that technique on YouTube for more directions. It worked for me. Flixster works just fine. And the root checker did not see that my phone was rooted after I used this technique. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYz4E9nO2kM . Now if you have a custom recovery or a custom rom then this method can be a hassle. And I suggest you search for a Odin technique.
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Skunk Ape1 said:
What I hate has little to do with features and more to do with how much harder it is to do things as a themer. It is ass ugly and harder to theme properly. I want to tell Google and Samsung to _______themselves as they are attempting to stop us from changing things. Say what you want about how great Android platform is. Within a few years it will be locked down as tight as the iPhone. 4.4 is step 1 in that process and therefore bad.
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Update Update Update!
I just couldn’t believe that no App would show the music data on my deck. After seeing it work on 4.4.2 and watching different Apps work I thought I would try a ton of Apps.
To my amazement these two Apps play music folders like I want and show all music data to my car stereo deck:
Folder Player
Rocket Player
These Apps I tried play music but do not transmit any music data to my car stereo deck:
Mortplayer
KAmMa’s Folder Player
Music Folder Player Free
EX Folder Player
MFPlayer
I have no idea why the how Folder Player and Rocket Player transmit the information. But it seems I get the best of both worlds for now. I can use Rocket Player via Bluetooth and see all my folder information and keep my Note 3 rooted on 4.3. Party!
I am just wondering if I should upgrade for latest security, tower information and perks but at least I have time to think about it now.
Thanks for everyone’s help!
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Remember that you are doing this of your own free will and if anything happens negatively including Vader going back to the dark side it's your fault.
This is what I did to go from rooted, Knox reading not tripped to 4.4.2 Knox counter still untripped.
1)You would want to back up anything onto a computer and your SD card including nandroid if possible if you don't know what a nandroid is you may not yet have the technical ability to make one.
1a) download the latest stock version of 4.4.2 use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712205
2)go here
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-repair/how-to-unroot-galaxy-note-3/
Print it out
3) download the Odin from here
4)the above has links to Odin and step by step instructions with pictures
5) download towelroot from http://towelroot.com
Put it on your SD card
5) pull your SD card safely and reset your phone with factory data reset or if your running a custom recovery through it.
6) follow the steps from
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-repair/how-to-unroot-galaxy-note-3/
you should of printed it out....
7) after it says pass and is booting put your SD card in.
8) side load/install towelroot
8a) run towelroot and make it rain
9) install root checker verify it worked and then a superuser program.
At this point you will have a rooted 4.4.2 stock rom.
For the latest stock version of 4.4.2 use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712205
And yes the Odin listed in the unroot website flashes that rom on my sprint phone without a problem.
Worked for me.
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[ROM][Official] CyanogenMod 12.1 Nightlies for the Verizon Galaxy S4 (jfltevzw)

IMPORTANT INFO:
-You must be on the VRUAMDK bootloader or you aren't going to be able to use this ROM. I'm sorry =(
(run this in a terminal to find out: getprop ro.bootloader )
-We have de-unified the Galaxy S4 line. This is for the Verizon variant (SCH-I545) only
CyanogenMod is a free, community built, aftermarket firmware distribution of Android 5.1.x (Lollipop), which is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device.
Code:
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* We are not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at us for messing up your device, we will laugh at you.
*
*/
CyanogenMod is based on the Android Open Source Project with extra contributions from many people within the Android community. It can be used without any need to have any Google application installed. You will need to provide your own Google Applications package (gapps). CyanogenMod does still include various hardware-specific code, which is also slowly being open-sourced anyway.
All the source code for CyanogenMod is available in the CyanogenMod Github repo. And if you would like to contribute to CyanogenMod, please visit our Gerrit Code Review. Your changelog is whatever was merged into gerrit.
Download Links
CyanogenMod:
Nightly: http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=jfltevzw&type=nightly
We have de-unified the Galaxy S4 line. Too many issues with having them all in one and a maintainer's nightmare. Look for jfltevzw builds now as opposed to the jflte builds you previously used.
Google apps addon:
Download: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps
The CyanogenMod team would like to thank everyone involved in helping with testing, coding, debugging & documenting! Enjoy!
XDA:DevDB Information
[ROM][Official] CyanogenMod 12.1 Nightlies for the Verizon Galaxy S4 (jfltevzw), ROM for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4
Contributors
invisiblek
Source Code: http://github.com/CyanogenMod
ROM OS Version: 5.1.x Lollipop
ROM Firmware Required: VRUAMDK bootloader
Version Information
Status: Nightly
Created 2015-04-20
Last Updated 2015-04-19

I guess I'll post first.
Up and running on 4/20 (flashed a few hours ago). So far I have noticed:
As soon as you open the stock messaging app a notification appears saying a message could not be sent. Choosing "Discard" from the menu of the unsent message does not discard it.
The compass is not working properly. Orientation is slow to respond and is off by 180 degrees. This only happens when stationary. When viewing the sensors using Advanced Sensor Tester the magnetic sensor is showing some changes, the gyroscope sensor shows very little changes, and the orientation sensor shows one line out of three showing very little change. Don't know if it means anything.
Not sure if I am using the correct term here, but, Adaptive brightness does not seem to be responding well and overall the lower brightness setting of the display seem to be too dark. In an outdoor environment any brightness setting below 50% is pretty much unusable and the brightness when in direct light doesn't increase enough. (May not have described that correctly).
BT seems good with a Jabra earpiece. I have yet to test it with something like music play over Ford's Sync and vehicle BT.
Not sure if it is an Android 5.1 issue or not but I have had to reinstall several third party apps since going to CM12.1. Opening them results in a force close. If I navigate to the APK using root explorer, selecting it, and choosing install (to reinstall it) the app works correctly afterwards.
So far everything else seems to be working.
Logcat attached:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/khdo1uicmj8l7j8/Log_2015-04-20_14-07-16.txt?dl=0

ran the 4/18 and 4/19 build. BT works, connects but won't stream anything. First my "Music" app was force closing every time it tried to play, it kept trying so it was a loop of force closes from it. I disabled the Music app, i then started getting bluetooth share has forced closed errors.
im flashing the 4/20 build but won't be able to test bluetooth playback to my car until tomorrow.
i also have the damn #in my status bar all day long. can't get rid of it, have no idea what its doing up there. even stays through reboots.

Ok, I have come across another issue. I disconnected my Jabra BT earpiece earlier. Now it will not reconnect. BT has turned off and will not turn back on. Cycling airplane mode does not help.
Logcat:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h86esc88wmth8pd/Log_2015-04-20_17-55-16.txt?dl=0
---------- Post added at 09:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:57 PM ----------
Ok, a reboot seems to have straightened BT out for now. It is on and I can connect my earpiece.

BT was not playing nicely with my car, tried rebooting with no change. BT would connect, but I would get a "Bluetooth share has stopped" message
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gmp029 said:
BT was not playing nicely with my car, tried rebooting with no change. BT would connect, but I would get a "Bluetooth share has stopped" message
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get the same error. welcome to the club, looks like more bluetooth issues.

dansan382 said:
get the same error. welcome to the club, looks like more bluetooth issues.
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I actually expected it, happens after every version change.

FernBch said:
I actually expected it, happens after every version change.
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yup, i didn't think it would be any better but was worth on a shot. can tell you on the 4/20 build it connects to my car (with a little convincing) but only recognizes the hands free profile. won't push any audio across. also turning on bluetooth is super buggy, it never really turns on and just switches the slider back to off.
I've heard euroskank builds have it working but i really dont want to full wipe my device again for the 3rd time in a week lol. i signed up for a motorola credit account, waiting for the account number to come in the mail and then ordering my 64GB nexus 6. my nano sim card came yesterday which I know verizon will give me a hard time activating. I also have a sim card cutter, some cases and a screen protector coming tomorrow so either way this is happening.

dansan382 said:
yup, i didn't think it would be any better but was worth on a shot. can tell you on the 4/20 build it connects to my car (with a little convincing) but only recognizes the hands free profile. won't push any audio across. also turning on bluetooth is super buggy, it never really turns on and just switches the slider back to off.
I've heard euroskank builds have it working but i really dont want to full wipe my device again for the 3rd time in a week lol
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I was on skank's 12.1 build until 4.17 version and BT did not stream in my car at all. It would connect, then i'd go to play music and DoubleTwist would just keep skipping to the next song without playing any audio. Then BT would be wierd and wouldnt connect/reconnect after that until a reboot.
So far I'm seeing the same funcionality on this ROM so it seems like something with the 12.1 base to me

vanberge said:
I was on skank's 12.1 build until 4.17 version and BT did not stream in my car at all. It would connect, then i'd go to play music and DoubleTwist would just keep skipping to the next song without playing any audio. Then BT would be wierd and wouldnt connect/reconnect after that until a reboot.
So far I'm seeing the same funcionality on this ROM so it seems like something with the 12.1 base to me
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good to know. there is a never ending battle with this phone on bluetooth, the compass and MMS lol

dansan382 said:
good to know. there is a never ending battle with this phone on bluetooth, the compass and MMS lol
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MMS was the easy fix. I made a few APN edits and it has worked ever since. What I did is in either the official thread or euroskanks thread. BT they will eventually fix. The compass, as we all know all too well, is a whole different story.

FernBch said:
MMS was the easy fix. I made a few APN edits and it has worked ever since. What I did is in either the official thread or euroskanks thread. BT they will eventually fix. The compass, as we all know all too well, is a whole different story.
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Yea I followed your APN edits awhile back, still was hit or miss. the MMS would eventually come in but wasn't 100%. great roms though, i'm really liking lollipop

I started a bounty for the compass - http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/general/bounty-make-compass-cm-12-1-t3088991

Hello,
Thanks for you working on this ROM. My issue is I can't install it.
So I was running JFLTE-GPE 5.0.1 for a while now by Danvdh. I noticed that at one point the Model Number changed to the GPE and device was jltegpe (or something like that). It didn't bother anything until I tried to install this ROM when I received an error in TWRP that I can't install the ROM because it is only for the jfltevzw. Does anyone know how to fix this issue. I am now running Hyperdrive and build.prop is back to jfltevzw but I am still getting the same error message in TWRP.
I am on the Verizon model of the S4 running MDK, loki'ed the bootloader, and installed TWRP.
Thanks in advance.

Otakulad said:
Hello,
Thanks for you working on this ROM. My issue is I can't install it.
So I was running JFLTE-GPE 5.0.1 for a while now by Danvdh. I noticed that at one point the Model Number changed to the GPE and device was jltegpe (or something like that). It didn't bother anything until I tried to install this ROM when I received an error in TWRP that I can't install the ROM because it is only for the jfltevzw. Does anyone know how to fix this issue. I am now running Hyperdrive and build.prop is back to jfltevzw but I am still getting the same error message in TWRP.
I am on the Verizon model of the S4 running MDK, loki'ed the bootloader, and installed TWRP.
Thanks in advance.
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You may have to go back to stock first (either by nandroid restore or via Odin).

FernBch said:
You may have to go back to stock first (either by nandroid restore or via Odin).
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Thanks. I was thinking about that but since they are only nightlies and not everything is working, I'll wait.

well its been fun boys..
just got back from best buy with my unbranded nexus 6.. the GS4 was a great phone and a blast to use but these roms and their problems were driving me insane. enjoy the development, i'll probably keep an eye on whats going on. if anyone has a friend looking for an MDK bootloader GS4 on verizon let me know lol

dansan382 said:
well its been fun boys..
just got back from best buy with my unbranded nexus 6.. the GS4 was a great phone and a blast to use but these roms and their problems were driving me insane. enjoy the development, i'll probably keep an eye on whats going on. if anyone has a friend looking for an MDK bootloader GS4 on verizon let me know lol
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another one bites the dust - first rajones19 and now you. I might follow soon. Too bad considering the jfltexx variant has no issues.
I am test running a Nexus 6. Next weekend is the final return date. It is big but I am getting used to it. Let's see if I want to keep it.
My decision will also depend on Google's wireless network announcement. If it sounds good, I will return this Nexus 6 and buy one from the play store and leave Verizon.

dansan382 said:
well its been fun boys..
just got back from best buy with my unbranded nexus 6.. the GS4 was a great phone and a blast to use but these roms and their problems were driving me insane. enjoy the development, i'll probably keep an eye on whats going on. if anyone has a friend looking for an MDK bootloader GS4 on verizon let me know lol
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Well, you'll be missed here but you gotta do what you gotta do......
I've talked jumpin ship before but I'll probably hang on till the bitter lonely end. I'm just hardheaded like that. [emoji14]
Seriously though, if I want decent coverage across my work area (10K sq miles in eastern AZ and western NM) Big Red is the only real choice. Who knows, maybe when I do decide on a new device it will be rootable and possibly even exploited.

phonedawg said:
another one bites the dust - first rajones19 and now you. I might follow soon. Too bad considering the jfltexx variant has no issues.
I am test running a Nexus 6. Next weekend is the final return date. It is big but I am getting used to it. Let's see if I want to keep it.
My decision will also depend on Google's wireless network announcement. If it sounds good, I will return this Nexus 6 and buy one from the play store and leave Verizon.
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FernBch said:
Well, you'll be missed here but you gotta do what you gotta do......
I've talked jumpin ship before but I'll probably hang on till the bitter lonely end. I'm just hardheaded like that. [emoji14]
Seriously though, if I want decent coverage across my work area (10K sq miles in eastern AZ and western NM) Big Red is the only real choice. Who knows, maybe when I do decide on a new device it will be rootable and possibly even exploited.
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well its time to move on, i really love the GS4 even more than my galaxy nexus but its been 2 years. I had this GS4 since launch date, actually had it 3 days early. she served me well and i honestly could have gone a little longer with it but I got tired of dealing with flashing stock roms on my phone just for certain key things not to work right. Got tired of having to explain to people when something didn't work it was because of custom software. Plus looking at my GS4 it just feels small now. Honestly would have preferred a 5.5inch phone but I dont see this thing being a problem once i get use to it. I'll probably keep the GS4 around as a mess around device so I'll probably still flash some roms with it. Don't think there is much of a demand in the resale space for a 2 year old phone like this. I've learned my lesson though, and I should have learned it from having a galaxy nexus but from now on out I'll only be using nexus devices.
I debated switching to T-Mobile and honestly I'm still very interested in doing so. Like others, coverage is a big concern and even though here in Southern PA (right outside of Philly) I get great T-Mobile coverage, I'm still worried about the one time to go somewhere that has 0 coverage. I drive back and forth to Long Island, NY where I'm originally from every few weeks and T-Mobile coverage is outstanding that entire trip so that would be nice. If I was still on the island I would switch in a heartbeat. Being in PA now, 75% of this state is a blackhole for T-Mobile coverage which very much worries me, even though I never really go that far. Maybe by the end of the year I might make the switch but for now I'm sticking with big red, unfortunately.

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