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My wifi automatically turned on while making a call, it was driving me insane. There is another thread for the Tilt 2 on this, but it never answered the question. It is also more relevant here.
The answer to solve this, by turning off Wireless-N mode or enabling automatic data disconnect.
I recently changed settings in touch tools; a lot of them. I noticed shortly after that by wifi kept on enabling itself automatically whenever I made a call. It drove me crazy, because I had to switch it off. It also wasn't good for my battery life.
I wish I could be more of a help, but at least you know where to start. I'll try and post back as soon as I am less busy.
settings wireless control, and switch off wifi?
There is a cab or maybe just a hack somewhere on the forum that auto switches it off or run on 2g only maybe?
johnerz said:
settings wireless control, and switch off wifi?
There is a cab or maybe just a hack somewhere on the forum that auto switches it off or run on 2g only maybe?
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My problem was that whenever I made a phone call the wifi would automatically activate. So imagine having to turn wifi off after each phone call. (I make a lot of calls during the day. Not only that but it briefly interferes with my calls (people have told me they heard something) and drains the battery life a lot more especially if I use the speaker.
I have fixed the problem though just by turning wireless-n mode off. I had turned it on for faster webpages, but really on wifi I don't need it.
I don't want to be too critical but many Smart Actions I found here or other Razr forums tend to be very restrictive on your use.
Com'on, you bought an expensive fancy phone which uses the fastest 4G LTE network, you paid some premium on those joy. It is never a Verizon LTE Razr if you turn 4G off.
So my bottom line is :
1.I want to be able to surf web/watch youtube/check email on 4G or wifi network when I want to (as opposed to wait for 5 seconds because it was off when screen was off)
And
2. I want to have reasonable battery life.
After some testing, Smart Actions that work on my Razr is
1. At Home: when it detect my wifi, it will switch there.
2. In call: When there is incoming call, turn off Data Connection and Screen turn to 0% brightness. (This is CDMA network, so you can't surf and use data at the same time anyway. Or do you really do a lot of such things? If so, please ignore this)
This #2 will help if you have constant phone conversation of about 30 mins daily. You won't want to burn unnecessary juicy while you are only talking.
3. At work where no wifi is available (for security reasons), I turn it off. I sit in office most of the time of the day, so you won't want wifi keep scanning and eating juice. I used TImeFrame to identify this, not geo location because wifi will need to be turned off.
4. In the night, using the night saver sample, I turned off cell data and background sync.
5. Low battery saver: surprisingly, in this action I only turned it to 0% screen brightness. Why? Just imagine you are using it as GPS or some important task on the road, you dont want to lose the GPS/Data if the battery dropped below a threshhold?
6. Most helpful action:
No Action At Work.
If you are working in office most of the time, your cellphone is quietly sitting on your desk mainly. So if you specify
1. at work
2. movement detection found nothing moving
then disable background sync. it will save the juice and when you turn on the screen to check email, the 4G is always there.
The whole idea , is not to disable data connection whenever you turn off screen. Many times you will have background downloads and sometimes when you turn on the screen, the phone takes some time to restore the data connection. which makes you staring at your phone can wait for a while. quite unfortunate if you have an Iphone user sitting beside you immediately pull the data out, right? =)
Personal settings, hopefully it helps you. It will easily give you 12 hours of usage. and for my charge now: 10 hours later it is at 80%, of course it has 6 hours of night standby.
Let's discuss more TESTED smart actions here? =)
note: if your phone is in your pocket a lot during a working day, don't use motion detection and you know why...
You can use voice and data simultaneously when on 4g. Just fyi.
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Yup, it's definitely useful too.
Example: talking to friend on phone about hanging out, go to home screen open Google maps to check when the next bus comes, while still talking to friend
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"Movement Detection"
Is there such an option? Been looking for it, can't find it.
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"Movement Detection"
Is there such an option? Been looking for it, can't find it.
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It's motion
+ you need to update to get it
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Copy that, update req Glad moto is updating though, it could be a uber powerful app.
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Copy that, update req Glad moto is updating though, it could be a uber powerful app.
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Think if they make it more granular it will be great
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thank you for the tips.
Hello, everybody. Newb here (only have had the HTC Evo View 4G for a couple of days now). I have a question about the battery and screen. Is it regular for the screen to use up about ~60 percent of the battery? (According the usage stats). I find that the screen is bright, even on the lowest setting.
Also, I have a question about the battery. It seems to be draining a little quick (I am using lowest brightness and WiFi only). Could some people share how long their battery usually lasts for regular usage? I don't think it's a hardware issue. Like I've said, I've only had it for 2 days, so I don't know if I still need to wait a little.
Thanks!
The screen is one of the biggest battery drainers (if not the biggest) on tablets. So if you are using the tablet a lot, and the screen is on for long periods of time, then 60% seems normal. I don't have my Flyer with me right now to check what my % for screen is.
Battery drain is going to depend a bunch on how much you are using your View, and for what. With moderate usage, I can get around 2 days on a charge. I'd say that is about average for me. But if you are downloading big files and gaming, and/or have the screen on a lot, it can be significantly less.
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The screen is one of the biggest battery drainers (if not the biggest) on tablets. So if you are using the tablet a lot, and the screen is on for long periods of time, then 60% seems normal. I don't have my Flyer with me right now to check what my % for screen is.
Battery drain is going to depend a bunch on how much you are using your View, and for what. With moderate usage, I can get around 2 days on a charge. I'd say that is about average for me. But if you are downloading big files and gaming, and/or have the screen on a lot, it can be significantly less.
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Okay, that makes sense. The battery life seems to be getting better. One more question. I want WiFi to turn off after a certain amount of time once the screen timeouts. Is there any way to do this in the settings or with an app? The settings (official 3.2) has a WiFi timeout policy that gives three options:
Switch from WiFi to mobile data when screen is off
Never switch WiFi off
Never switch WiFi off when plugged in
I live in Canada and don't have a plan. Would using the first option drain more battery because it is looking for a connection? Or should I use the third option?
Thanks again.
Hmm, not sure. I have the WiFi only version of the Flyer, and on mine the first choice is just "When screen turns off". The first choice on your View is weird. Mobile data always uses more power than WiFi, if both are available. I don't see why you would ever want that.
BTW, I'm at home and have access to my Flyer now. Battery usage for screen is 52% for me. So I'd say 60% you mentioned is pretty normal.
You should also take into account, unless you've taken steps to turn it off/remove it, Cell standby might also be causing your battery life to take a hit. Since the View is set up to also be able to receive text messages, out of the box it's constantly trying to connect to Sprint's cellular network, even if you have mobile data turned off. This thread discusses ways to deal with it. Cell standby used to be one of the biggest users of my battery. Now, it's no longer a problem and I've seen a major increase in battery life.
As for the WiFi issue, the first choice in the settings actually says "When screen turns off (uses more mobile data)." That doesn't mean that it automatically switches mobile data on if you've turned it off in the settings by selecting that option. It's worded that way because the View is designed to be used on Sprint's network, so under normal circumstances it is assumed that if you turn WiFi off, you'll have a data plan and automatically connect to the mobile data network. If you don't have an account with mobile data from Sprint, and you've turned off mobile data in the settings, it won't be an issue because you have nothing to connect to.
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As for the WiFi issue, the first choice in the settings actually says "When screen turns off (uses more mobile data)."
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That makes much more sense.
Okay, thanks everybody. I really appreciate it. With heavy usage (basically using it all the time) I'd get about 6 hours and 10 minutes. Is that normal for everybody else?
Also, I have a couple of more questions, if you guys don't mind.
First of all, could rooting my device boost my battery life? Would it give me more access to settings like screen brightness?
And, do apps running in the background use battery life or are they 'frozen' until active? This sort of leads me into my next question. Is having 400-500MB of RAM always being used normal? Is the OS using all of it?
And I notice that when I put my tablet in airplane mode (to kill the 4G radio) I lose access to Bluetooth. Is this normal and will turning off airplane mode for a minute be a battery drain?
Thanks again, guys.
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Okay, thanks everybody. I really appreciate it. With heavy usage (basically using it all the time) I'd get about 6 hours and 10 minutes. Is that normal for everybody else?
Also, I have a couple of more questions, if you guys don't mind.
First of all, could rooting my device boost my battery life? Would it give me more access to settings like screen brightness?
And, do apps running in the background use battery life or are they 'frozen' until active? This sort of leads me into my next question. Is having 400-500MB of RAM always being used normal? Is the OS using all of it?
And I notice that when I put my tablet in airplane mode (to kill the 4G radio) I lose access to Bluetooth. Is this normal and will turning off airplane mode for a minute be a battery drain?
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Rooting won't necessarily boost battery life, but does give you ways to access more system items if you want using apps that take advantage of root.
Android attempts to keep non-rumming apps in memory so that it can load them faster in the future (Ram is much faster than SD memory). 80% Ram full is typical.
Airplane mode turns off all radios, BT, Wifi, GPS, 3g.
There are apps in the market that can turn various things on / off based on your environment / time / conditions
nubyw00tz said:
First of all, could rooting my device boost my battery life? Would it give me more access to settings like screen brightness?
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You don't need root access to adjust screen brightness. Settings -> Screen -> Brightness.
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And I notice that when I put my tablet in airplane mode (to kill the 4G radio) I lose access to Bluetooth. Is this normal and will turning off airplane mode for a minute be a battery drain?
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Airplane mode turns off all radios, BT, Wifi, GPS, 3g.
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Airplane mode turns off all radios initially, but then you can turn almost all of them right back on (except for the cellular radios). I run mine in airplane mode all the time to keep the cellular radio completely inactive, but I still use WiFi, GPS, and Bluetooth when I need/want them, and they all work great. Are you running Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I do seem to remember some mentions of not being able to use Bluetooth in airplane mode on Gingerbread. It works perfectly fine on Honeycomb.
And you can turn off the 4G radio and all data service without turning on airplane mode (Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile network). Doing this turns off all radios that receive data from the cellular network, but it doesn't turn all cellular functions off since the View is also set up to receive text messages. That's what airplane mode or any of these options address.
What I meant by adjusting the screen brightness was being able to control its range more than I can right now (I feel that even the lowest setting can be too much). But it seems that rooting/installing a custom ROM wouldn't do too much for the battery.
But my issue with airplane mode is that I can't turn on Bluetooth with it (Bluetooth is 'grayed out'). I am running official Honeycomb.
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But my issue with airplane mode is that I can't turn on Bluetooth with it (Bluetooth is 'grayed out'). I am running official Honeycomb.
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Did you try tapping on the box for Bluetooth in the settings even though it looks like you can't, and did you try using a widget to turn it on? I'm using stock OTA Honeycomb, and Bluetooth works perfectly fine for me while in airplane mode. I can turn it on in the settings (the box does look a little "grayed out," but you can still select it) or via a homescreen widget. If you can't turn it on with either of those, then it would seem that you've got some other type of problem. It works fine for me. I just tested it out again.
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Did you try tapping on the box for Bluetooth in the settings even though it looks like you can't, and did you try using a widget to turn it on? I'm using stock OTA Honeycomb, and Bluetooth works perfectly fine for me while in airplane mode. I can turn it on in the settings (the box does look a little "grayed out," but you can still select it) or via a homescreen widget. If you can't turn it on with either of those, then it would seem that you've got some other type of problem. It works fine for me. I just tested it out again.
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I just tried it. It seems to not be working for me, but it doesn't seem like a glitch but something built into the OS (I tried with a widget and it did a little 'no' animation). It's alright, I rarely use Bluetooth anyway.
Thanks for all of your help (plus everybody else, too)!
nubyw00tz said:
I just tried it. It seems to not be working for me, but it doesn't seem like a glitch but something built into the OS (I tried with a widget and it did a little 'no' animation). It's alright, I rarely use Bluetooth anyway.
Thanks for all of your help (plus everybody else, too)!
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I'd venture to say it's not something built into the OS. If it is built into the OS, then there's a glitch that allows me to use it under the same circumstances, and glitches rarely enable functionality. They almost always cause a device to lose functionality like you're experiencing. I'd be curious to know if anyone else is having the same issue you're having.
Last time I have ran battery test on my Flyer I ran it for almost 11 days on one charge. Yeap, 11 days. I mostly used Flyer as a notepad, checked orders on website couple of times a day, read emails. One day I played a game for about 20 minutes. At the end I set up and tested Plex and Google Music. I stopped the test at 11% charge. Overall screen was on for a bit over 4 hours (40%). Wi-fi on for 16 hours (only 4% ??) according to stats. That's pretty much it. Tablet idle 43%. Fairly light usage, but I mostly was testing how much of useable time I can get out of it. 11 days is a pleasing result.
Hi there,
I recently rooted my Google Pixel XL (8.1 Oreo) and have been working hard to optimise it much as possible.
I noticed in my battery stats that "Mobile Network Standby" has taken about 60% of the usage since my last charge so I thought I'd make a nifty Tasker script to toggle it on and off when needed. I've done a little programming in the past and have tried to write the commands as simply as possible in a way I can comprehend.
What I've come here for is to see if anyone would be kind enough to convert this into Tasker's syntax, or to perhaps give me some pointers on doing it myself.
I also have a question regarding what "Mobile Network Standby" refers to specifically. Would simply turning off Mobile Data fix this? Or would I need to go flight mode to fully disable it connecting to the towers? I've heard it's maintaining the connection that takes most of the battery, rather than the data itself.
So here's the code. The idea is that when I use my phone I always want an internet connection but also have the cellular off as often as possible. Wifi obviously takes priority, locking the phone for longer than 90 seconds turns off cellular, and after that it should turn on every 5 minutes for 15 seconds so I'm still getting Messenger notifications.
If (wifi connects) then
Turn off cellular
EndIf
If (wifi discons >15 secs) and (locked <90 secs) then
Turn on cellular
EndIf
If (screen turns off for >90 secs) then
Turn off cellular
EndIf
If (phone unlocks) and (no wifi) then
Turn on cellular
EndIf
If (not unlocked for 300 seconds) and (no wifi) then
Turn on cellular
Sleep (15 seconds)
Turn off cellular
EndIf
Thanks for your help guys, I really appreciate it!
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Hi there, I recently rooted my Google Pixel XL (8.1 Oreo) and have been working hard to optimise it much as possible. I noticed in my battery stats that "Mobile Network Standby" has taken about 60% of the usage since my last charge so I thought I'd make a nifty Tasker script to toggle it on and off when needed. I've done a little programming in the past and have tried to write the commands as simply as possible in a way I can comprehend...
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I don't use Tasker but, the following area of the forum is specific to Tasker.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u/tasker-tips-tricks
With that stated...
I believe that one or more of the following threads may be helpful for what you are looking to do and don't be afraid to ask for some member guidance within one of them too.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3742629
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110775
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890596
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3333728
Good Luck!
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Hi all,
I've spent a while now trying to get a device to connect faster to wifi that I'm using as dedicated GPS navigation. I hotspot to the device from my phone for traffic data but it takes 30 seconds or so before it finds my hotspot.
I have tried a few wifi manager apps but it seems as if they are limited by Nougat's scan refresh rate as they all perform the same, i.e there is no difference.
I have also tried adding wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=2 to build.prog for a 2 second update but it had no effect.
The device is always on charge so obviously battery life is of no importance.
Please could anyone advise?
Thanks
Anyone?
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