Hi Guys
I am trying to decide on switching from my 64GB 3G iPad 1 to a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and was hoping you could give me some feedback?
Basically, I have been something of an Apple user for the last few years, but have recently gotten an SGS2 which I just love....way more than my iPhone 4S!
As the iPad 1 is now a little old, and quite a heavy beast, I am thinking of going for a 10.1 instead. I can only really afford a 16GB one (with 3G), so would plan to get a SD card adapter for playing bigger files.
I have seen some threads on this from a good few months ago, so was hoping that with firmware tweaks, etc, there may be more updated views out there?
Any thoughts you guys have would be great!
Cheers
When I first got my Tab 10.1, I was a little dispointed. It was laggy and kinda slow. I played with my gf's pad2 before i got the tab (wich i got from my gf). And i notice that the pad was much more "smoother".
After a few weeks, i decided to root and flash a costume rom, best thing ever.
Now the tab is more faster and "smoother" than the ipad2.
There is more to the tab then the ipad. More customize etc.
So if you consider a tab, you might want to flash a costume rom to get a better experience.
Im using Task650 6.2 rom with pershoot kernel (wich is overclockable)
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ole12 said:
When I first got my Tab 10.1, I was a little dispointed. It was laggy and kinda slow. I played with my gf's pad2 before i got the tab (wich i got from my gf). And i notice that the pad was much more "smoother".
After a few weeks, i decided to root and flash a costume rom, best thing ever.
Now the tab is more faster and "smoother" than the ipad2.
There is more to the tab then the ipad. More customize etc.
So if you consider a tab, you might want to flash a costume rom to get a better experience.
Im using Task650 6.2 rom with pershoot kernel (wich is overclockable)
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Thanks for that - really helpful of you! It seems that it may be as customisable as the SGS2, which would be a cool thing!
Cheers
tjjpowles said:
I can only really afford a 16GB one (with 3G), so would plan to get a SD card adapter for playing bigger files.
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Keep in mind that the hardware version you get will affect which ROMs you would be able to use. Not all galaxy tab 10.1's are the same.
Due to its popularity the wifi only tabs have a greater number of ROMs wheras those of us on Verizon tabs for example have to either use Liquidspeed or take the leaked 3.2 ROM and customize it.
I really like my Verizon version though.
After playing with my in-laws iPads, and my rooted thunderbolt, I picked up this galaxy.
A few times I have been *almost* to the point of getting rid of it. Maybe after I can find out how to root the VZW 4G one I have, it will get better. The internet is VERY laggy on mine. I have tried the OEM browser, firefox, dolphin and they all stink.
sigh,
muzzy996 said:
Keep in mind that the hardware version you get will affect which ROMs you would be able to use. Not all galaxy tab 10.1's are the same.
Due to its popularity the wifi only tabs have a greater number of ROMs wheras those of us on Verizon tabs for example have to either use Liquidspeed or take the leaked 3.2 ROM and customize it.
I really like my Verizon version though.
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Yeah I was going to make mention of this as well. Personally I have the 3G 8.9, which I absolutely love, because I think Samsung hit the nail right on the head with the size sweet spot; even my Apple "fan-girl" sister saw it and was like "Whoa, that is really slick! What is that?"
Anyway, what I was about to say/ask is, considering you're not really going to be able to make any GSM calls on the tablet anyway, is there any specific reason you need to have 3G as opposed to sharing your SGS2's 3G via tethering? If being able to send/receive text message on a bigger screen is your concern, then may I suggest Tablet Talk? Basically the app actively syncs your text messages from your phone to your tablet via Bluetooth and/or WiFi. Uses very minimal battery, and it very useful. Even if you have conversations entirely on your tablet, they still show up in your phone's logs and message strings, so it's not fragmented or anything.
So, to break it down:
You already have SGS2.
Tablet Talk = SMS on your tablet via your SGS2
Mobile data connection = Tethering to your SGS2
WiFi versions = more popular in the dev community = better dev support
WiFi version = cheaper by ~£100 in most cases
Conclusion = Get WiFi version of GTab 10.1/8.9?
Unless of course I've missed something here, and the 3G version is still an absolute must...
What are your thoughts?
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StreetStrip01 said:
After playing with my in-laws iPads, and my rooted thunderbolt, I picked up this galaxy.
A few times I have been *almost* to the point of getting rid of it. Maybe after I can find out how to root the VZW 4G one I have, it will get better. The internet is VERY laggy on mine. I have tried the OEM browser, firefox, dolphin and they all stink.
sigh,
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Rule of thumb for future reference for anyone buying mobile devices:
Never, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER(!!!!) buy a device which has been subsidized, customized, or otherwise touched in ANY way shape or form, by a carrier.
Carrier subsidized devices = Slower, bloated, locked down, controlled (by carrier), less popular for development, less chance of getting it to do what you want.
Solution:
Sell your 4G VZW Tab.
Get VZW LTE hotspot instead.
Get WiFi Tab instead.
Enjoy better dev support on your Tab device.
Continue to enjoy LTE speeds via your hotspot.
Profit.
Hi all
Thanks so much for all of your input.
Interesting points about using the mobile data of my SGS2 for the Galaxy Tab. Sounds like a good idea, but how would I go about this? Is it hard??
Cheers
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Anyway, what I was about to say/ask is, considering you're not really going to be able to make any GSM calls on the tablet anyway, is there any specific reason you need to have 3G as opposed to sharing your SGS2's 3G via tethering?
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I have a SGS2 and had a Wi-Fi Tab which I just replaced with a UK 3G version. Tethering is a pain in the ass.
- Get out the SGS2 and enable Wi-Fi Sharing
- Turn Wi-Fi on and connect the Tab
- Disconnect Wi-Fi on the Tab
- Turn off Wi-Fi Sharing on the SGS2
I was always forget to turn off Wi-Fi sharing and it kills the SGS2's battery. If you're traveling, it's great to whip out the Tab and instantly have access to e-mail and messaging without having to go through the above four step process.
Here's something to think about when deciding between Wi-Fi and 3G:
- I use the Tab as my primary e-mail and messaging device now because it's a joy to have the additional real estate to read and compose messages. The SwiftKey split keyboard is great and you can really pick up some speed for longer messages.
- Wi-Fi Sharing sucks battery on the phone. A couple of times I found myself screwed because my phone battery was low right before I needed to get on a long conference call.
- If you're on AT&T you can add-a-line for $9.99 and get unlimited data for $10 for the Tab. I also added unlimited messaging to mine for $10.
- The Tab switches between Wi-Fi and 3G automatically so it's always connected and your e-mail, messages, and anything else you're syncing are always current which means it doesn't slow to a crawl when you first start it while it's updating everything. It gets amazingly good battery life even when connected to 3G 24/7.
- Between my phone and Tab I burn through 10-14GB of data a month. If I did that while tethering there's a good chance I'd get flagged by AT&T for excessive usage. It's safer to split the data between the two devices and I'm still only paying $20 a month for data between both of them.
- There's a rumor that ICS will support GSM calling. If so, that will be a great benefit for video and conference calls. At a minimum, you've got the bonus of a second line/SIM that you can use by popping it in to another phone.
The benefits of 3G over the Wi-Fi version really depend on how you use your device. If you travel a lot I'd strongly recommend 3G. If you use it at home and/or always have access to Wi-Fi then save the money on the device and plan and go with Wi-Fi only.
Exactly what I need to know for real life usage. Majority of the being around WiFi connection will only make more sense to actually get a WiFi model and sorry about the moving out and about with a WiFi Tethering or might as well get a mobile hotspot to move around with
BarryH_GEG said:
I have a SGS2 and had a Wi-Fi Tab which I just replaced with a UK 3G version. Tethering is a pain in the ass.
- Get out the SGS2 and enable Wi-Fi Sharing
- Turn Wi-Fi on and connect the Tab
- Disconnect Wi-Fi on the Tab
- Turn off Wi-Fi Sharing on the SGS2
I was always forget to turn off Wi-Fi sharing and it kills the SGS2's battery. If you're traveling, it's great to whip out the Tab and instantly have access to e-mail and messaging without having to go through the above four step process.
Here's something to think about when deciding between Wi-Fi and 3G:
- I use the Tab as my primary e-mail and messaging device now because it's a joy to have the additional real estate to read and compose messages. The SwiftKey split keyboard is great and you can really pick up some speed for longer messages.
- Wi-Fi Sharing sucks battery on the phone. A couple of times I found myself screwed because my phone battery was low right before I needed to get on a long conference call.
- If you're on AT&T you can add-a-line for $9.99 and get unlimited data for $10 for the Tab. I also added unlimited messaging to mine for $10.
- The Tab switches between Wi-Fi and 3G automatically so it's always connected and your e-mail, messages, and anything else you're syncing are always current which means it doesn't slow to a crawl when you first start it while it's updating everything. It gets amazingly good battery life even when connected to 3G 24/7.
- Between my phone and Tab I burn through 10-14GB of data a month. If I did that while tethering there's a good chance I'd get flagged by AT&T for excessive usage. It's safer to split the data between the two devices and I'm still only paying $20 a month for data between both of them.
- There's a rumor that ICS will support GSM calling. If so, that will be a great benefit for video and conference calls. At a minimum, you've got the bonus of a second line/SIM that you can use by popping it in to another phone.
The benefits of 3G over the Wi-Fi version really depend on how you use your device. If you travel a lot I'd strongly recommend 3G. If you use it at home and/or always have access to Wi-Fi then save the money on the device and plan and go with Wi-Fi only.
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Back to topic, Tab would be better off with its customization and everytime flashing will virtually give the tab a new lease of life to it.
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A site I work at has no cell coverage, but does have wifi (no internet, just on-site wifi). I'd like to get a couple "portable data terminals", and while there are some very nice commercial/industrial solutions, they're ~$1-2k/pop. Looking at specs, my cheapest option is a cell phone running Gingerbread (native VOIP) and the basic mail/IM apps.
Would one of the LG Optimus S/T/V/etc phones (that I can get, non-contract, for ~$100/pop) be a good fit?
My criteria are:
1. Decent wifi support
2. At least one Gingerbread-based ROM with no major known issues
3. Battery life of (at an absolute minumum) 12 hours with moderate (VOIP + email + IM) use (please note, that's with wifi on but GPS and 1/2/3G radios off), and preferably more like 16 hours.
4. Aftermarket parts (like screen protectors and cases)
Get Opt T. Comes with Tmo's Wifi Calling. Then just flash a custom 2.3 ROM with fserves goldenleaf kernel for battery life.
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Get Opt T. Comes with Tmo's Wifi Calling. Then just flash a custom 2.3 ROM with fserves goldenleaf kernel for battery life.
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I don't think there's WiFi calling on p500 ROMs so that might be a problem.
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Your best bet, go with GingerLOL, it has the best battery life I have heard from any user who is using official gingerbread, our phones never came with the official gingerbread, atleast not that I know about, I'm in the US, figured all OpT devices that aren't rooted are still on froyo....as far as price range, I'm not sure but you might be able to grab em off eBay for alittle under a hundred bucks
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There is an unofficial port of gingerbread that has Wi-Fi calling...I can't remember the name of it but I think it's RevOpt...just go through the stickies in android development of our forum and you'll see a post by ciaox, he does a good job on of keeping up with all rom versions and updates
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247
This link will take you to ciaox one in all Opt page, great use of information...each rom is separate by version
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Jrhodes85 said:
There is an unofficial port of gingerbread that has Wi-Fi calling...I can't remember the name of it but I think it's RevOpt...just go through the stickies in android development of our forum and you'll see a post by ciaox, he does a good job on of keeping up with all rom versions and updates
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Isn't that froyo based?
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Reverend_Dave said:
A site I work at has no cell coverage, but does have wifi (no internet, just on-site wifi). I'd like to get a couple "portable data terminals", and while there are some very nice commercial/industrial solutions, they're ~$1-2k/pop. Looking at specs, my cheapest option is a cell phone running Gingerbread (native VOIP) and the basic mail/IM apps.
Would one of the LG Optimus S/T/V/etc phones (that I can get, non-contract, for ~$100/pop) be a good fit?
My criteria are:
1. Decent wifi support
2. At least one Gingerbread-based ROM with no major known issues
3. Battery life of (at an absolute minumum) 12 hours with moderate (VOIP + email + IM) use (please note, that's with wifi on but GPS and 1/2/3G radios off), and preferably more like 16 hours.
4. Aftermarket parts (like screen protectors and cases)
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Judging by the phones you've listed you're in the U.S. The HTC Wildfire S is the cheapest GB Android with native WiFi calling.
1. Any T-Mobile Android includes native WiFi Calling via Kineto and works really well.
2. Gingerbread with WiFi calling on the Optimus T is a no go. Froyo only.
3. Really depends, "moderate" isn't descriptive enough.
4. Opt T has a plastic screen, screen protector is a must.
Also, consider Wifi calling via GrooveIP which uses Google Voice and is FREE. Call quality isn't top notch and receiving calls via WiFi doesn't work well. Upside, it'll work on any Android and with all carriers.
Cheapest option. A SOHO ATA with a standard cordless phone. I love my OBi100
For battery life i suggest getting an extended battery pack. Using your phone as a "data terminal" and wanting to have 12 hours is near impossible
Yes, I am US-based. I know the TMobile UMA (wifi-calling) system, it's pretty cool (works great in basements etc). Unfortunately, won't work in this case due to lack of Internet access. VOIP calling would be via a SIP server on the local network.
I'm expecting "moderate usage" to be a couple minutes of calling a day and some IM/email (again, talking to servers on the local network), it's probably "light-to-nonexistant usage" relative to the modern teenager. Goal is to replace/supplement existing walkie-talkies, which get flaky at longer ranges or when more than one person is trying to talk at the same time. (If you're wondering why I think wifi will work better... because we already use the wifi for other stuff in most of the places we send people.)
Reverend_Dave said:
Yes, I am US-based. I know the TMobile UMA (wifi-calling) system, it's pretty cool (works great in basements etc). Unfortunately, won't work in this case due to lack of Internet access. VOIP calling would be via a SIP server on the local network.
I'm expecting "moderate usage" to be a couple minutes of calling a day and some IM/email (again, talking to servers on the local network), it's probably "light-to-nonexistant usage" relative to the modern teenager. Goal is to replace/supplement existing walkie-talkies, which get flaky at longer ranges or when more than one person is trying to talk at the same time. (If you're wondering why I think wifi will work better... because we already use the wifi for other stuff in most of the places we send people.)
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I understand now. In that case any phone would work. However, Gingerbread is only available via an unofficial port. I'm currently using miks unofficial port of CM7 6.5.8 (Gingerbread) on my Optimus T and it's stable and bug free for daily use IMO.
The native SIP app in Android is very immature. SIPDroid is the best option available IMO. Battery life should meet your requirements, a stun server will help with battery life. My opinion of SIP on Android as a whole isn't good though. I've used it with pbxes and voip.ms. I had audio delay issues but your local setup may help reduce the affect.
I suggest you buy a couple and see how it goes. There's a 30 day return policy so you have nothing to loose (except time).
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The native SIP app in Android is very immature. SIPDroid is the best option available IMO. Battery life should meet your requirements, a stun server will help with battery life. My opinion of SIP on Android as a whole isn't good though. I've used it with pbxes and voip.ms. I had audio delay issues but your local setup may help reduce the affect.
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How would a STUN server help with battery life? If it does, it's easy to set up, but phones would all be living in the same IP space (with the SIP box), so NAT traversal isn't an issue.
I've looked at bits of the Android source associated with the SIP stack (and the API for accessing it), and yeah, it doesn't inspire awe. However, given that LTE is native(ish...) IP, and voice-over-LTE is SIP (admittedly, with a lot of extensions from the 3GPP), I'm expecting Android SIP support is going to get better.
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How would a STUN server help with battery life? If it does, it's easy to set up, but phones would all be living in the same IP space (with the SIP box), so NAT traversal isn't an issue.
I've looked at bits of the Android source associated with the SIP stack (and the API for accessing it), and yeah, it doesn't inspire awe. However, given that LTE is native(ish...) IP, and voice-over-LTE is SIP (admittedly, with a lot of extensions from the 3GPP), I'm expecting Android SIP support is going to get better.
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As a user I remember battery life was better when I connected to a STUN server. I've only used SIP on Android connecting via the internet, you're right it's useless in your scenario.
Audio latency was my biggest gripe and may not have been entirely Androids fault. I think your situation is about as ideal as it gets. Lack of opposing side (internet) and your ability to control timeouts and packet size may be the answer. If you do decide to try it, please let me/us know how it works out.
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Audio latency was my biggest gripe and may not have been entirely Androids fault. I think your situation is about as ideal as it gets. Lack of opposing side (internet) and your ability to control timeouts and packet size may be the answer. If you do decide to try it, please let me/us know how it works out.
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Most of my (expected) use is to replace what goes over the walkie-talkies, stuff like "come to the office" or "Bob, go to the back gate", which tends to be short and not terribly latency sensitive. I'll probably try it, but it won't go live for a couple months.
There's a nifty spec for push-to-talk-over-cellular, which is actually a 3GPP-written SIP extension, which is way, way, way beyond anything the SIP stack in Android is capable of dealing with at this point. Oh, well...
HTC Amaze stock rom;
it seems have wifi connection issue at home: after wifi connected, few mins later, wifi still shows connected, but no internet activities were allowed;
see people has similar issue on other sites, does anyone have a solution for it?
also the connection speed went to 1Mbps for no reason. the router should be good, has ipad and desktop PC wirelessly connected all the time, didn't see any kind of drop or anything.
will ICS release to fix this? does anyone know? ROM issue? thanks
I still have the issue with ICS. But I'm using a Custom Rom, Energy to be exact. I had the WiFi issue with this phone since day one. It connects fine but certain times it will show a connection but no data will come through. My wife has the GS2 and she has great WiFi connection all the time. So I'm not sure where the issue lies. I'm also using a TPU case and a Trident Aegis Case at times.
Contemplating on returning to Stock ICS soon just for s&g's
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thanks for the reply. I guess no hope for 21st's ICS then; if not, I propobably will consider to sell it. now I understand why the guy sold me that he wanted a ONe S.
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I still have the issue with ICS. But I'm using a Custom Rom, Energy to be exact. I had the WiFi issue with this phone since day one. It connects fine but certain times it will show a connection but no data will come through. My wife has the GS2 and she has great WiFi connection all the time. So I'm not sure where the issue lies. I'm also using a TPU case and a Trident Aegis Case at times.
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I never had that problem on GB or ICS.
The 21st ota has already been leaked. Go to dev section and member Football has 2 leaked ROMs. The newer is what is what is being released on 21st
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Labiker, do you have the latest stock ICS release from football? It's in the dev forums. I don't have WiFi issues, but I recommend testing your WiFi on other networks see if you have the same issue if you haven't tried that already. And in my opinion I would say stay away from energy ROM It's known to have WiFi issues when some sort of update is released for it I would probably try it out again. I would honestly stay away from revolution also until we get some new updates. I'm currently running the latest ics ruu stock and everything is smooth but I'm going to be trying eclipse ROM soon the speed ROM because I've been having the itch to flash something new.
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Come to think of it....I have been using Energy since I rooted. So maybe it is the Rom. Going to run stock in a few. Just making my MyBackupRoot for my apps.
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Amaze 4G sucks with WiFi and Bluetooth
I am on phone number 10 in the course of 11 months. I have had known issues I found; I have also found issues between T-Mobile and HTC. I've been through the Sensation about six times. That was replaced with the Samsung Galaxy Amaze...which was totally incomparable in specs. Then I was given the Amaze. Found many known issues...with WiFi (which is what I want to use...and especially using WiFi with Bluetooth. I get garbled incoming sound (sometimes the outgoing sound is at the same time audible to the recipient). I find that I get calls garbled constantly, or worse...completely dropped. I live in a metropolitan-suburban area where I get 4G signals. Additionally, I've found information on the internet about T-Mobile and Metro PCS having incompatible systems, which exacerbates the garbling and call drops. I have a very high-end router, on which no other devices have any issue...and the signal strength dot with concentric circles goes up to the full three and down to just the dot...and that's independent of how close I am to the router (again, no problems with any other WiFi devices). As I said, it's worse when the Bluetooth radio and WiFi are on simultaneously. I've had occasional success holding the phone in my hand...about two feet from any of my five high-end Bluetooth devices...it won't usually work if I have it in my pocket...three feet away. I've spent 53 hours on the phone with T-Mobile (I keep very good notes) and 17 hours on the phone with HTC. I'm running ICS 4.0.3. Both have said since May that "they" were working on the problem and expected a resolution in a week or two. Now HTC's relationship, per trusted sources, is disintegrating and neither has done anything...rendering my 10th phone useless to me. I'd rather go back to my Windows 6.1 AT&T Tilt phone, at this point. And three times, T-Mobile's "customer service" calls of 1-1/2 hours each, didn't even put any notes on the account. Caveat emptor...
I think your issue is related to software not hardware because you get constant bars right? Just no data sometimes? A lot of times its the router that needs refreshing I have noticed as well and I am running a Linksys e2500. I would try something like speedrom never recall it giving me WiFi issues. So don't put down the device without giving it a shot is all I am saying.
Alright so I've never rooted my phone or done anything fancy with it as far as that goes. Recently the ICS update was released and I didn't update right away, wasn't sure how bad it would mess up my current settings etc. After reading that it retained all my settings and functionality I decided to upgrade. Ok so first off I can't Tether anymore and my portable wifi hotspot does not work either, I'm on Rogers and in Canada, never heard of 'tethering plans' such as other people refer to with AT&T. I have my 4g enabled, can retrieve internet access, and as soon as I turn on my portable hotspot my phone is unable to access the 4g anymore, It enables a wifi hotspot but anything that connects to it gets limited connectivity and can't access the internet either. It's like the phone just shuts it off automatically. I used to use this all the time and was one of my favorite features about my phone.. If I'm unable to use this I don't even want the data plan that I currently have, the data plan I decided on DUE to this feature.. So I'm gonna be pretty pissed off if this amazing little update is trying to force me to pay for something that I already pay extra to utilize properly.
I could be wrong here but I'm pretty damn sure that the battery life has dropped by close to 20% I can watch the percentage go down while I'm doing stuff and it seems to be losing life a lot quicker now, and I noticed that after the first day of using ICS. The resolution on the unlock screen seems to be botched, It's very squished... My old version never did this, and it's kind of annoying for my background images and having the clock looking out of whack.
I'm not sure what to do, there doesn't seem to be an update and as far as I know the update has been out for awhile now, why hasn't this stuff been fixed, who can I make official complaints to as far as Samsung or Rogers goes? I've checked these forums a bit and people seem to be having a lot of issues, some similar to mine some not, some I may have just had the luck to avoid so far. Is factory reset the only real option to fix things, and will that even help my tethering issues?
Also things like browsing through Facebook can eat up 5% of my battery in five or ten minutes... I know for sure that it never used to do that. I don't get why the battery life would be effected so drastically, but even when It's just sitting around while I sleep I lose a higher % of battery life than I did before... I've browsed through various threads but there doesn't seem to be many options, is anyone able to respond to the issues I'm having?
Flash a custom ROM. It's easy, and the experience is much better. There are guides in the stickies on everything you need to do.
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Like he said above me, flashing a custom rom would fix your problems. I'd recommend CM9 ICS. It's pretty stable and my favorite so far. Downside is you lose S-Pen functionality.
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Alright so I've never rooted my phone or done anything fancy with it as far as that goes. Recently the ICS update was released and I didn't update right away, wasn't sure how bad it would mess up my current settings etc. After reading that it retained all my settings and functionality I decided to upgrade. Ok so first off I can't Tether anymore and my portable wifi hotspot does not work either, I'm on Rogers and in Canada, never heard of 'tethering plans' such as other people refer to with AT&T. I have my 4g enabled, can retrieve internet access, and as soon as I turn on my portable hotspot my phone is unable to access the 4g anymore, It enables a wifi hotspot but anything that connects to it gets limited connectivity and can't access the internet either. It's like the phone just shuts it off automatically. I used to use this all the time and was one of my favorite features about my phone.. If I'm unable to use this I don't even want the data plan that I currently have, the data plan I decided on DUE to this feature.. So I'm gonna be pretty pissed off if this amazing little update is trying to force me to pay for something that I already pay extra to utilize properly.
I could be wrong here but I'm pretty damn sure that the battery life has dropped by close to 20% I can watch the percentage go down while I'm doing stuff and it seems to be losing life a lot quicker now, and I noticed that after the first day of using ICS. The resolution on the unlock screen seems to be botched, It's very squished... My old version never did this, and it's kind of annoying for my background images and having the clock looking out of whack.
I'm not sure what to do, there doesn't seem to be an update and as far as I know the update has been out for awhile now, why hasn't this stuff been fixed, who can I make official complaints to as far as Samsung or Rogers goes? I've checked these forums a bit and people seem to be having a lot of issues, some similar to mine some not, some I may have just had the luck to avoid so far. Is factory reset the only real option to fix things, and will that even help my tethering issues?
Also things like browsing through Facebook can eat up 5% of my battery in five or ten minutes... I know for sure that it never used to do that. I don't get why the battery life would be effected so drastically, but even when It's just sitting around while I sleep I lose a higher % of battery life than I did before... I've browsed through various threads but there doesn't seem to be many options, is anyone able to respond to the issues I'm having?
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I had the same problem and found two possible solutions:
1- I installed foxfi and i was able to use the wifi hotspot. I still wasn't able to access the native wifi hotspot functionality on the phone, but foxfi did the same thing so no big deal.
2- factory reset. this option is a little radical, but as has been explained elsewhere on this forum, the upgrade doesn't clear some configurations that remain from the GB ROM and those conflict with things like wifi hotspot and cardock and several other things.
I had to eventually do the factory reset. It was a nuisance because i had to reinstall everything, but now my phone works great and I can access all the native functionality.
You could also flash a custom ROM, but I have done it and while they are faster and sexier than the STOK ROM you always have to give up some functionality and they always have some bugs, and once you start flashing custom ROMs you can get OFD and we may lose you forever... (I had it from my windows mobile days and I would flash a new ROM sometimes more than once per day)..
Root (flash cwm with Odin), do a factory reset, and then flash the rooted/deodexed version of the UCLF6 stock rom. You won't lose ANY functionality, and your phone will be quick as hell again -- or even faster.
Like paleh0rse state...
Here is the thread with all the listing for stock LF6; tools that may be required. Along with all the ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
If you gonna flash a rooted/deodexed version of the UCLF6 stock ROM, no need to root before hand, just put CWM on and flash away.
Foxfi worked for me. But it doesn't connect right away to the Internet, had to inniate a browser then it connected.
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XDA is no longer worth my time.
Factory reset fixed it for me.
TimOster; I did not use Klies, I am with Rogers so I assume it was one of their Roms, It was a wireless download but through my homes Wifi I believe. And I don't really think I did it manually, I got an update message on my phone one day didn't even realize it was ICS at first, but of course it gave me lots of warnings and obviously realized what it was before doing it, but I wasn't expecting this lol, I wish I had checked it out online first I would have seen all the complaints and just stuck with the old version.
I'm thinking about trying a factory reset first, and if that doesn't fix things, mainly the battery issues, then I'll try a stock rom.
No one seems to mention anything about the battery usage though, am I the only one noticing this effect? :\
XDA is no longer worth my time.
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Root (flash cwm with Odin), do a factory reset, and then flash the rooted/deodexed version of the UCLF6 stock rom. You won't lose ANY functionality, and your phone will be quick as hell again -- or even faster.
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I'm the unofficial self-appointed president of the palehorse fan club, and I approve this message ....LOL
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Got my vote!
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Hi Guys,
I know that a lot of people hate verizon's skype. I like it because it has the BT working and is using a phone not data.
Minutes are not considered toward monthly cap and it is very reliable as far as a connection goes .
Unfortunately it says not supported by this device. Use the other.
The normal skype app is not that good, resource consuming BT does not work, and it eat up a lot of data.
Esp bad when moving or insinde some buildings where signal is poorer.
My questions is if it could be modded to work on note 2.
On my GN works fine.
Many thanks
Abe
abe_cedar said:
Hi Guys,
I know that a lot of people hate verizon's skype. I like it because it has the BT working and is using a phone not data.
Minutes are not considered toward monthly cap and it is very reliable as far as a connection goes .
Unfortunately it says not supported by this device. Use the other.
The normal skype app is not that good, resource consuming BT does not work, and it eat up a lot of data.
Esp bad when moving or insinde some buildings where signal is poorer.
My questions is if it could be modded to work on note 2.
On my GN works fine.
Many thanks
Abe
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Im sure if u found an older version of skype mobile it will i had to do that with my droid 4
will try
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Im sure if u found an older version of skype mobile it will i had to do that with my droid 4
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It could also b that vzw does not support it in jb. I cant find the app with my nexus on the market but installed and it worked on a custom rom.
I am hoping once custom rom will b released I can try.
I have an OG droid. I can extract the app from there.
I did install several apps 1.6.0.0 and the latest. None of them work.
One tells me that this app works only on verizon the others that there is a better version of skype.
My gripe is with the main skype app. Poor. Heavy on resources, a lot of data, battery, cpu, does not have BT working.
I cannot use when moving it sounds horrible and I am in a very good LTE area. That app works fine while still in a spot with good LTE connection or WiFi.
I love the original skype because is a simple verizon "phone call". No, it does not uses minutes since is a in network call, and the BT works. It always did. Also there is not data used almost at all
I use skype a lot with people abroad and is as good as any phone call but free and I can get the reliability of VZW network.
Now I have my GN with me and the Note 2 as well. Not a pleasant solution
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Abe
Wow, I totally forgot about this.
Yeah, that would be cool as hell to use minutes and bluetooth.
Wonder if there are any existing XDA modded versions.
Some google searching is turning up repeated mentions of such a mod .apk.
So infuriating that newest skype doesn't support bluetooth.
GRRR
Some people point to mono audio app in market as a way to force routing audio to bluetooth. This may be a partial solution fwiw.
I have RAZR Maxx HD and when I was on ICS there was a way to do it... when I tried to send an IM using Skype, it was automatically loading "Verizon's version" of Skype and then I could call anybody and anyone could call me using verizon's cellular network (not data)... not anymore... JB plugged the hole and many other. Courtesy of Verizon wireless, where customer comes last and primary goal is to milk us and generate hefty profits and bonuses... darn it.
JB vs ICS
I might be JB vs ICS. I have a Gnexus ( toro) with custom JB on it and it works fine.
I am hoping that some aosp rom would make this app work again.
I have tried in a store all the motorola and the S3 not of them would run this light Skype.
I think it has to do with the model number.
Ok. I found a way to do it. Uninstall new Skype and install "Verizon's" skype.
Next click on People and choose IM and person's nick you wanna call (it has to be assigned as skype contact) it will take you to "Verizon" skype and no need to use data.
I live about a mile from the nearest VZW LTE tower. I have a direct line of site to it from my back deck. I have the GNII and an iPhone 5 and my previous Android device was a GS3 (Verizon). Tethering with the GS3 was OK, and the iPhone is great, but with the Note its subpar at best. I have the $30 unlimited tethering package (No other High Speed internet options where I live). I have been experiencing data drops when tethering to the note and the speed is definitely lower and less reliable than when I am using the iPhone. I REALLY prefer using my note, does anyone know of any radio fixes or firmware to help correct the issues with GNII tethering? I can post screenshots if necessary, and I do understand that the GS3 used a Quallcomm chipset while the Note uses the Exynos radio, so I expected differences, just not this much. I also will note that using the Note while not tethering doesn't seem to be an issue at all. I can surf, view youtube in HD on the device etc without much buffering time at all, but when I tether it it will drop out several times in just a few minutes. Any info or opinions would be great. Many thanks guys.
I have the same problem from time to time. Keep in mind this phone just out and I'm sure we will get firmware update down the road. I had bluetooth pairing problems with my HTC phone at first when I got them.
If you restart your hotspot when it happens it might reduce the drop out problem. It works for me when I start getting that problem.
I swap back and forth between the official VZ hotspot and the TreE Mod wireless tether.
We use tethering for my ipad, my daughters ipod and a very fast PC laptop.
I find the TrevE mod is consistently faster than the VZ hot spot for some reason, but the reason I use both different methods is that I'm never sure which one will stay connected better on any given day.
One day, one will work better and the next day the other one will work better and I never know ahead of time which will be the right choice that day. I have unlimited data and don't pay to tether so I can't call VZ and ask. I don't really tether all that much or I would pay for it (I'm definitely NOT one of those DBs that uses 150 gigs a month with a free wireless tether and then brags about it) but I just live with the little quirks as I'm getting it free anyway.
I use TrevE mod and have a rock solid connection. I can stay connected for days at a time. Considerably faster than my Galaxy Nexus was.
I've downloaded a couple hundred gigs so far. It NEVER drops connection.
Scott's CleanRom FTW.
This phone has an awesome radio.
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Izord said:
I use TrevE mod and have a rock solid connection. I can stay connected for days at a time. Considerably faster than my Galaxy Nexus was.
I've downloaded a couple hundred gigs so far. It NEVER drops connection.
Scott's CleanRom FTW.
This phone has an awesome radio.
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Same here.
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I live about a mile from the nearest VZW LTE tower. I have a direct line of site to it from my back deck. I have the GNII and an iPhone 5 and my previous Android device was a GS3 (Verizon). Tethering with the GS3 was OK, and the iPhone is great, but with the Note its subpar at best. I have the $30 unlimited tethering package (No other High Speed internet options where I live). I have been experiencing data drops when tethering to the note and the speed is definitely lower and less reliable than when I am using the iPhone. I REALLY prefer using my note, does anyone know of any radio fixes or firmware to help correct the issues with GNII tethering? I can post screenshots if necessary, and I do understand that the GS3 used a Quallcomm chipset while the Note uses the Exynos radio, so I expected differences, just not this much. I also will note that using the Note while not tethering doesn't seem to be an issue at all. I can surf, view youtube in HD on the device etc without much buffering time at all, but when I tether it it will drop out several times in just a few minutes. Any info or opinions would be great. Many thanks guys.
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You know it's really funny that you mention this because I just got a killer deal on an iPhone 5 and my whole intent was to just flip it and make some $$ and that is exactly what I did! Anyways, I live right next to an LTE tower too and I found that the iPhone 5 sucked at data speed tests and tethering... In fact, the iPhone just SUCKS period!! You gotta be connected to wifi just to download an app over 50mb from the app store???? WTF?? I really didn't know just how lucky us Android folks are! :good: My post is not about bashing the iPhone or anything but I just thought I would chime in cause I had the exact opposite effect of what you are posting about...
BTW: Is it just me or does the iPhone 5 suck REALLY bad?? It was actually dropping frames in some heavy games that I was playing on it... I thought that Crapple was supposed to have the superior gpu? Guess NOT! Well at least I got to play with IOS for about 24 hours before it was sold on Ebay to some poor guy that thinks it's a great phone... Okay, maybe I did post in this thread just to flame.
I have the note 2 and clean rom 4.5 installed. Using stock tetherer I experience tons of dropped data. Anyone have a link to exactly what I need for travel mod? I've tried installing and turning on hot spot and it just doesn't turn on.
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Which tool do you use to measure packet loss? I use the hotspot feature all the time at the gym (mostly for web browsing) with my tablet and have not noticed any issues (I am on cleanrom 4.5). Note that when it rains the signal usually drops to 3g in this location.
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I have the note 2 and clean rom 4.5 installed. Using stock tetherer I experience tons of dropped data. Anyone have a link to exactly what I need for travel mod? I've tried installing and turning on hot spot and it just doesn't turn on.
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i use trev e mod and never had one disconnect...speeds are much better than the stock hotspot also.
Using treve mod right now. No issues yet.
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Trev E settings
Anyone have a current configuration link to TrevE. I am using Beans build 9 and cannot get my Titanium backup of it to load it again.