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I really like this phone but the battery drain is terrible. I have that verizon extended battery in it(2750mah) but even with that the phone will lose about 10% battery in about 1 1/2 hours during non-use and roughly double that if im browsing the web.
I have Battery Doctor and Juice Defender running at all times and disable anything i dont need to have running. Also, for some reason Battery Doctor does not display my current battery status accurately so i use a basic battery stat widget to know exactly how much battery is left.
Does anyone have any recommendations on what i should do? Apps i should use/not use? Oh and i do keep display brightness down and have done a full cycle charge.
Thanks!
voxigenboy said:
I really like this phone but the battery drain is terrible. I have that verizon extended battery in it(2750mah) but even with that the phone will lose about 10% battery in about 1 1/2 hours during non-use and roughly double that if im browsing the web.
I have Battery Doctor and Juice Defender running at all times and disable anything i dont need to have running. Also, for some reason Battery Doctor does not display my current battery status accurately so i use a basic battery stat widget to know exactly how much battery is left.
Does anyone have any recommendations on what i should do? Apps i should use/not use? Oh and i do keep display brightness down and have done a full cycle charge.
Thanks!
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I don't know if this would help/is recommended, but I decided to bump charge mine once. It seemed to help me out, but opinion seems to be split on whether it's good for the phone or not. I also use only friends and calender widgets, and about 4 toggles (airplane mode, gps, wifi, mobile). I generally turn off mobile network where wifi is available. I have been off the charger since 8 am and am at 83% with light use (a few texts, a little facebook, etc). I do use Watchdog lite (to watch for misbehaving apps) and autorun manager (to tweak what runs on startup). I should probably also mention that I have the stock battery.
Turn off 3g manual in settings.
Make the Radio do 3G Only.
Put the phone volume half way.
No vibrate when receiving a text and audio play after the text.
No vibrate feed back when touching the home,menu,back and search button Which can be found in settings>sounds>haptic feedback. Uncheck it
-Monky_1
I have a stock battery.
I use the battery monitor widget to keep an eye on battery use and rogue apps. If I go over 50mA at idle, there's something that's running when it shouldn't.
I also have wifi sleep mode after 15 minutes of idle. And I keep blutooth and gps off. Also LTE only since i have excellent coverage here.
And i use Tasker to turn on airplane mode overnight (turns off all radios) and also silence all alarms, lights, vibration...
I get through about a day and a half of normal use no problem. Once cm7 is out i imagine i will get 2 or more days no problem, as it tends to idle at less than 10mA which would be a dramatic overnight difference.
Hi,
I watched my battery info a moment ago and don't know if those stats are normal.
Cell standby: 42%
- Time on 19h 44m
- Time without a signal 100%
Display: 20%
Android System: 15%
Phone idle: 7%
Android OS: 6%
"Cell standby" seems to use much battery power and my phone signal strengh does not show more than 2 of 5 "bars" in the notification bar (inside buildings). Data network is not enabled.
Now I'm not sure if the antenna of my phone might be defect cause of this high battery usage. I am also sometimes not reachable if people try to call me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15648244#post15648244
sounds like what were going through mate!
WongKit said:
Hi,
I watched my battery info a moment ago and don't know if those stats are normal.
Cell standby: 42%
- Time on 19h 44m
- Time without a signal 100%
Display: 20%
Android System: 15%
Phone idle: 7%
Android OS: 6%
"Cell standby" seems to use much battery power and my phone signal strengh does not show more than 2 of 5 "bars" in the notification bar (inside buildings). Data network is not enabled.
Now I'm not sure if the antenna of my phone might be defect cause of this high battery usage. I am also sometimes not reachable if people try to call me.
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But you miss the key component battery used in that time span .
1% battery used 90% used ???
Your post reads as phone not receiving a signal .Phone sleeping/not in use .
Of the battery used in that time 42% was cell standby NOT 42% of the battery 42 % of the amount used .
more than 2 of 5 "bars" in the notification bar (inside buildings)
No network will guarantee any reception inside buildings . Faraday cage and all that .
Test the phone outside the building first for signal strength .
jje
Cell standby
If you know you wont have signal turn airplane mode on, to save it from searching for a signal all the time, and thus draining some battery.
@Jesmicael: Thanks! I'll watch this thread.
@JJEgan:
My phone uses about 12% battery within 9 hours. No display, no data network, no wlan, no gps, but about 1h of listening to music in this timespan.
I got signal inside buildings most time (with 0-2 bars) but it also happend to me that I was not reachable, even when I placed the phone next to an open window. Outside of the building I have maximum signal.
I did not have any problems with my older LG phone in the same situation.
Of course I know that this 42% are just compared to other battery users
@veyka:My phone is not placed in an isolated cage, and I want to be reachable in this time. Airplane mode is good for saving battery, but not when you want to use a "phone" ^^
WongKit
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@Jesmicael: Thanks! I'll watch this thread.
I got signal inside buildings most time (with 0-2 bars) but it also happend to me that I was not reachable, even when I placed the phone next to an open window. Outside of the building I have maximum signal.
Phone gives full signal so nothing wrong with the phones hardware or antenna .
Your alternative is to take the phone to a service centre .
jje
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Seeing as you're pretty much putting your phone in stasis for the 9 hours of usage. i think its pretty normal drain. it just looks like the only thing the phone is actually using is the antenna.
Just a wild idea, did you set the phone to GSM/WCDMA auto?
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Just a wild idea, did you set the phone to GSM/WCDMA auto?
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Yes, but does it matter, if I have no data connection enabled? If so, what should I use instead?
Maybe this battery "drain" of the cell standby is normal, when I do not use the phone in this time. On the other hand I am a bit confused, cause due Samsungs official data sheet, the phone should last up to 620h in standby with 3g enabled.
Of course the realistic value is less than 620h, but not 6 times less.
Ive come to realise that this might just be an erroneous stat. I honestly don't think it takes up 100% of my battery. Cell standby has actually deceased since I've flashed villainrom 2.1
any one else have a clue?
I had a theory that since my gsii its actually gt-i9100t not gt-i9100 it might make a little,difference.. whoo knows.. :/
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I've come to the conclution that the SG2 is not for use it all day, I have turned it on this morning connected all day to wifi/dataplan and after 14 hours the battery is dead. Will not be able to use it for an entire day.
Pd: wanted to share a pic but seems that the forums are not allowing the png format.
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mine lasts all day even with pretty heavy useage mate
you will get about 5 hours screen time on average from this device and battery .
I suggest checking to see if you have killed samsung bloatware that likes to run all the time , installed juice defender which helps a lot , adjusted your start up programs , installed latest firmware or a custom rom like leomar2.1 , if you cant get 3g signal switch to 2g only , switch wifi/gps/bluetooth off when not in use .
Doing all of the above will get you excellent battery life and you will easily last through the day .
The only way i can kill my battery in a day is with some severe gaming sessions and dlna sessions or internet browsing sessions
Battery and phone are fine its the setup thats important
Hope you get it sorted peeps and have a great day too
Look its really normal. You phone will use power in standby, so there is really nothing wrong. The numbers are relative.
I'm experimenting a bit to see if the Omate TS would be a usable replacement for a phone (ie if it would work well during the day to read notifications, use for sports tracking, recieve calls and such).
It started out well - when I took the watch off charging in the morning I activated the phone, WiFi, bluetooth and paired my bt headset, and turned off cell data. I played around with the phone a bit (installed an app, played with that for a few minutes, checked settings and tried some new things there for maybe 10 minutes or so, and so on). I recieved two calls that lasted about 5 minutes each, and checked mails, facebook and such a few times. After lunch the battery showed 78% remaining, which sounded very good.
I decided to take a walk, so I turned off WiFi, enabled cellular data, and turned on GPS. Listened to podcasts through BT headset for the entire walk. One hour walk with RunKeeper, where I checked mail and facebook a few times during the walk.
After returning, the battery was down a lot, to about 25%, ie 50% battery drained in one hour. I checked the battery stats, and it looked like this: (not a link as I can't post links yet due to forum restrictions): imgur.com/WPQJNd4
I'm not surprised about WiFi and BT consumption as I had those enabled and used them quite a lot during the day, but what surprised me is the cell standby adding up to almost 50% of the battery usage, most of which seemed to be drained when I enabled cell data. Is GPS drain included in cell standby as well? Is this to be expected, or what's causing the excessive drain when using cell data connection? Any tips on how to improve this?
My cell coverage during the walk was decent, as I was outdoors and had at least 3-4 bars of reception the entire time.
cell standby is also the highest drain on mine. was on 2g only as well
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Mine usually says that too. Although it still easily lasts me the day with the cell on.
speedyink said:
Mine usually says that too. Although it still easily lasts me the day with the cell on.
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I get about 2 days of battery with emails only, light apps use. 3g and wifi on, no bluetooth connected, zero calls.
8 calls, some messages, BT always on with headset, on 2G GSM, light app usage with brightness on min and i ended on 4th day still with 40%battery left.
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8 calls, some messages, BT always on with headset, on 2G GSM, light app usage with brightness on min and i ended on 4th day still with 40%battery left.
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That's quite impressive!
I tried again today, took watch of charger when leaving for work. 1 call, 10-15 minutes of "play" (installed an app, changed some settings, re-arranged some icons and such). BT with headset, WiFi and phone enabled all day, mobile data connection off. Recieved quite a few notifications during the day that I checked briefly, but other than that quite idle. When leaving the office at the end of the day I had 52% battery remaining.
Not too bad, but out of that the cell standby and phone idle together consumed half of my battery. Reception is ok, ranging from 2 bars to full (goes a bit up and down). I can't complain about the wifi / bt / screen battery drain, seems the phone standby is the only major battery hog for me.
Cell Standby is a battery hog for me too : about 10% an hour. Cell signal is good. Will try now to disable the mobile data to see if it helps.
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sethxp said:
8 calls, some messages, BT always on with headset, on 2G GSM, light app usage with brightness on min and i ended on 4th day still with 40%battery left.
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That's amazing, what is your setup (hw revision, firmware, settings, etc)?
Disabling cell, wifi, bt, gps, lowest brightness on modified stock (the 2014 testing as a base, ensec, xposed) and I can just make it barely back home on 2nd day with light usage (check the time mostly).
In comparison, my Pebble gets to 30-40% on the 4th day and will die out completely by the 6th day.
Even though the cell standby seems to drain a ton of battery, overall it's acceptable. For normal usage (WiFi on, BT on, paired with headset, phone on, a few widgets and apps that are pulling info from the web, receiving a couple of notifications per hour, checking time/notifications a few times, making a few calls and such) I seem to average about 6-8% per hour. Half of that is for the cell standby, so turning the phone off would probably double my battery life.
I know there are a number of "battery saving apps" out there that modify settings and behavior to save power. Mostly stuff like turn wifi off when screen is off, enabling it once every few minutes to check notifications, and similar. Anyone know if these apps can tune the phone power consumption in any way?
stingray454 said:
Even though the cell standby seems to drain a ton of battery, overall it's acceptable. For normal usage (WiFi on, BT on, paired with headset, phone on, a few widgets and apps that are pulling info from the web, receiving a couple of notifications per hour, checking time/notifications a few times, making a few calls and such) I seem to average about 6-8% per hour. Half of that is for the cell standby, so turning the phone off would probably double my battery life.
I know there are a number of "battery saving apps" out there that modify settings and behavior to save power. Mostly stuff like turn wifi off when screen is off, enabling it once every few minutes to check notifications, and similar. Anyone know if these apps can tune the phone power consumption in any way?
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I started running Deep Sleep Battery Saver as I had prior experience with it working well on an SII as a set it and forget application, where other similar programs require much more customisation. keep in mind my omate is not a daily driver, it spends half the week on the charger and the other half on my wrist, and I only use a sim card in their sparingly. as such, I don't have proper data, but I've definitely been able to make it through the day with light usage, occasionally forgetting to recharge until the next day
I think there may be something wrong with either the battery or the circuitry which monitors and reports on the status. I can watch an hour long video with negligable 4% battery loss one day, and another day a similar video draining over 20%.
Certainly with all the radios switched off and very light usage my TS was on 92% well into it's 2nd day...
However soon as you use it... it gets murdered.... lol....
From wednesday till now, few calls, bluetooth on, some texts, very light usage.
sethxp said:
From wednesday till now, few calls, bluetooth on, some texts, very light usage.
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Still amazing! Which model hardware do you have? what rom? are you running any additional apps or just what's default? I'd love to replicate your setup on my 1/8 1900
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Truesmart, EU 512-4 2100 working sensors firmware with patch, removed some bloatware, all auto sync off (manual), switched to 2G gsm only, brightness to min, bluetooth always on because crappy mic. Additional apps:facebook, my budget book, hangouts, es file, airdroid, quikpic, teamviewer...
I have read the other battery problem posts and haven't seen that anyone has reported similar problem to mine...
Typically I have a full day of use with my Gear S (BT on; wifi, mobile and gps off) and come home with about 45-60% battery.
However, about once a week I have had it suddenly chime with the low battery alert after only 2-3 hours, same settings!
What is going on? Notifications from Google Now are kind-of excessive (once an hour), but don't have any special apps installed except Watch Styler and Zooper wearable widgets. Anyone else with random poor battery performance?
groovekids said:
I have read the other battery problem posts and haven't seen that anyone has reported similar problem to mine...
Typically I have a full day of use with my Gear S (BT on; wifi, mobile and gps off) and come home with about 45-60% battery.
However, about once a week I have had it suddenly chime with the low battery alert after only 2-3 hours, same settings!
What is going on? Notifications from Google Now are kind-of excessive (once an hour), but don't have any special apps installed except Watch Styler and Zooper wearable widgets. Anyone else with random poor battery performance?
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Mine has better battery life on some days than others. I haven't had it that long but all of my settings remain the same, but its definitely not as drastic of a difference.
Hmmm, wish it was that way for me. I'm sure one of apps is hanging in the background after being triggered or opened, though not sure which one or what else it could be. :-/
Same Problem
When I am work, my battery dies in less than 8 hours even with VERY little use. When I am away from work (weekends, etc.), my battery will go all day with phone calls and texts and even GPS usage. I'm wondering if it's related to the Wi-Fi or cell signal I get in my office. I have Wi-Fi turned off on the watch but it made no difference. Something must be "active" to cause it to drain that fast! Less than 8 hours with very minimal use.....WTF??????
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When I am work, my battery dies in less than 8 hours even with VERY little use. When I am away from work (weekends, etc.), my battery will go all day with phone calls and texts and even GPS usage. I'm wondering if it's related to the Wi-Fi or cell signal I get in my office. I have Wi-Fi turned off on the watch but it made no difference. Something must be "active" to cause it to drain that fast! Less than 8 hours with very minimal use.....WTF??????
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Is your mobile network on the watch set to auto or always On? Maybe you can try turning it off and see if it helps save battery life..
I agree with the post about turning your cellular data off as the watch will constantly try to get information and if it is a weak signal it causes battery drain.
Well ever since i switched the cellular data to edge my battery consumption it reduced to almost blue tooth levels...about 3-4 % per hour [emoji2] i can can have it remotely connected all day with out any problems.
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groovekids said:
I have read the other battery problem posts and haven't seen that anyone has reported similar problem to mine...
Typically I have a full day of use with my Gear S (BT on; wifi, mobile and gps off) and come home with about 45-60% battery.
However, about once a week I have had it suddenly chime with the low battery alert after only 2-3 hours, same settings!
What is going on? Notifications from Google Now are kind-of excessive (once an hour), but don't have any special apps installed except Watch Styler and Zooper wearable widgets. Anyone else with random poor battery performance?
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I've notice that some clock styles are huge battery drainers and mobile data on, eats up your battery like crazy, also motion. BATTERY IS THE ONLY BIG DISAPPOINTMENT THIS WATCH HAS
For me the trick was to never turn my watch off! I now put it in airplane mode overnight and deselect in the morning. I'm still not sure what causes my problem, but powering up the watch would result in about 20% battery loss per hour. I think it is a software loop running in the background after the watch engages in system update check. Now I get through the day with about 50% battery remaining and can use motions and even always-on.
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Moto Z's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Pretty good
Lost 3% on standby during 8 hours through the night.
Now that I'm on nougat, I'm losing about 8% over a 7 hour period
Not all cores stay in deep sleep when the screen is off.
I am seeing about 50% at 652MHz and 50% Deep Sleep when the screen off. I am not sure if this is expected.
I am also losing about 1% / hour in standby with the latest Nougat Update.
I just got it so I can't compare before & after.
1 percent per hour can be completely normal depending on someone's setup, apps install, signal strength, etc.
Most phones I've ever owned are about that or just under. Only my Nexus 7 2012 was way lower. About 0.4% per hour.
1 percent per hour is definitely not anything to be too concerned with honestly.
I'd start with CPU spy or a similar app, to see if your phone is actually in deep sleep when not used. If not, then you could have an issue.
i am extremely satisfied with stock(everything stock unrooted,locked bl) standby drain. I don't use Approach, Attentive Display and Notification Display in Moto app.
Wifi ON : 3% over 7 hours sleep
Wifi OFF : 1% over 6 hours sleep
Data(3G) ON : 7% over 5 hours sleep
Since N7 update, getting very bad idle drain.
Losing 28% during 7 Hrs overnight (>4%/Hr) and the BBS logs don't show any major issues.
Posting my logs here hoping a fresh pair of eyes can locate any anomalies I missed.
You might have bad reception in the place you have your phone. Check settings>battery> click on graph>cellular network signal. If the bar is red/ orange or has many small red lines you might be located between two towers.
Try switching to 3G or 2G overnight and if there is a dramatic difference it will confirm its signal-related battery drain.
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You might have bad reception in the place you have your phone. Check settings>battery> click on graph>cellular network signal. If the bar is red/ orange or has many small red lines you might be located between two towers.
Try switching to 3G or 2G overnight and if there is a dramatic difference it will confirm its signal-related battery drain.
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Just an update; I used a Tasker profile to disable WiFi and Bluetooth when Display is off between 11 PM to 6 AM (my approx. sleep window). This has brought down the Idle consumption during night to 0.8%/Hr suggesting at-least one of them to be the reason for abnormal drain. I think the WiFi or Bluetooth modules in the Nougat update may not be fully optimised. I intend to test with only one of them turned OFF alternatively over next two nights and locate the real culprit.
Of course this does not help me during the day when both WiFi and Bluetooth have to be kept ON as I can't be bothered to turn them On/Off frequently whenever I start/stop listening to music or connect/disconnect to work WiFi. I'll explore if I can write Tasker profiles to switch them On/Off based on location, proximity to work WiFi AP and music steaming status.
Also, as suggested by @Vcek above, I can see some orange bars in the battery graph overnight indicating signal issues at my home location which may also be adding to the increased drain.
Overall I am sufficiently comfortable now knowing what is causing the increased drain and having at least some level of control over it.
My phone still open when i asleep .
Hmm..
I've been thinking about this as well in the first week of owning the phone. I leave out at 530am and get back around 6pm and am sitting around 50% (not bad, don't get me wrong). But the 2 year old phone it replaced would still be at ~40% in the same day.
It's better, don't get me wrong, just not as much as I figured.