I'm experimenting a bit to see if the Omate TS would be a usable replacement for a phone (ie if it would work well during the day to read notifications, use for sports tracking, recieve calls and such).
It started out well - when I took the watch off charging in the morning I activated the phone, WiFi, bluetooth and paired my bt headset, and turned off cell data. I played around with the phone a bit (installed an app, played with that for a few minutes, checked settings and tried some new things there for maybe 10 minutes or so, and so on). I recieved two calls that lasted about 5 minutes each, and checked mails, facebook and such a few times. After lunch the battery showed 78% remaining, which sounded very good.
I decided to take a walk, so I turned off WiFi, enabled cellular data, and turned on GPS. Listened to podcasts through BT headset for the entire walk. One hour walk with RunKeeper, where I checked mail and facebook a few times during the walk.
After returning, the battery was down a lot, to about 25%, ie 50% battery drained in one hour. I checked the battery stats, and it looked like this: (not a link as I can't post links yet due to forum restrictions): imgur.com/WPQJNd4
I'm not surprised about WiFi and BT consumption as I had those enabled and used them quite a lot during the day, but what surprised me is the cell standby adding up to almost 50% of the battery usage, most of which seemed to be drained when I enabled cell data. Is GPS drain included in cell standby as well? Is this to be expected, or what's causing the excessive drain when using cell data connection? Any tips on how to improve this?
My cell coverage during the walk was decent, as I was outdoors and had at least 3-4 bars of reception the entire time.
cell standby is also the highest drain on mine. was on 2g only as well
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Mine usually says that too. Although it still easily lasts me the day with the cell on.
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Mine usually says that too. Although it still easily lasts me the day with the cell on.
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I get about 2 days of battery with emails only, light apps use. 3g and wifi on, no bluetooth connected, zero calls.
8 calls, some messages, BT always on with headset, on 2G GSM, light app usage with brightness on min and i ended on 4th day still with 40%battery left.
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8 calls, some messages, BT always on with headset, on 2G GSM, light app usage with brightness on min and i ended on 4th day still with 40%battery left.
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That's quite impressive!
I tried again today, took watch of charger when leaving for work. 1 call, 10-15 minutes of "play" (installed an app, changed some settings, re-arranged some icons and such). BT with headset, WiFi and phone enabled all day, mobile data connection off. Recieved quite a few notifications during the day that I checked briefly, but other than that quite idle. When leaving the office at the end of the day I had 52% battery remaining.
Not too bad, but out of that the cell standby and phone idle together consumed half of my battery. Reception is ok, ranging from 2 bars to full (goes a bit up and down). I can't complain about the wifi / bt / screen battery drain, seems the phone standby is the only major battery hog for me.
Cell Standby is a battery hog for me too : about 10% an hour. Cell signal is good. Will try now to disable the mobile data to see if it helps.
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8 calls, some messages, BT always on with headset, on 2G GSM, light app usage with brightness on min and i ended on 4th day still with 40%battery left.
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That's amazing, what is your setup (hw revision, firmware, settings, etc)?
Disabling cell, wifi, bt, gps, lowest brightness on modified stock (the 2014 testing as a base, ensec, xposed) and I can just make it barely back home on 2nd day with light usage (check the time mostly).
In comparison, my Pebble gets to 30-40% on the 4th day and will die out completely by the 6th day.
Even though the cell standby seems to drain a ton of battery, overall it's acceptable. For normal usage (WiFi on, BT on, paired with headset, phone on, a few widgets and apps that are pulling info from the web, receiving a couple of notifications per hour, checking time/notifications a few times, making a few calls and such) I seem to average about 6-8% per hour. Half of that is for the cell standby, so turning the phone off would probably double my battery life.
I know there are a number of "battery saving apps" out there that modify settings and behavior to save power. Mostly stuff like turn wifi off when screen is off, enabling it once every few minutes to check notifications, and similar. Anyone know if these apps can tune the phone power consumption in any way?
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Even though the cell standby seems to drain a ton of battery, overall it's acceptable. For normal usage (WiFi on, BT on, paired with headset, phone on, a few widgets and apps that are pulling info from the web, receiving a couple of notifications per hour, checking time/notifications a few times, making a few calls and such) I seem to average about 6-8% per hour. Half of that is for the cell standby, so turning the phone off would probably double my battery life.
I know there are a number of "battery saving apps" out there that modify settings and behavior to save power. Mostly stuff like turn wifi off when screen is off, enabling it once every few minutes to check notifications, and similar. Anyone know if these apps can tune the phone power consumption in any way?
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I started running Deep Sleep Battery Saver as I had prior experience with it working well on an SII as a set it and forget application, where other similar programs require much more customisation. keep in mind my omate is not a daily driver, it spends half the week on the charger and the other half on my wrist, and I only use a sim card in their sparingly. as such, I don't have proper data, but I've definitely been able to make it through the day with light usage, occasionally forgetting to recharge until the next day
I think there may be something wrong with either the battery or the circuitry which monitors and reports on the status. I can watch an hour long video with negligable 4% battery loss one day, and another day a similar video draining over 20%.
Certainly with all the radios switched off and very light usage my TS was on 92% well into it's 2nd day...
However soon as you use it... it gets murdered.... lol....
From wednesday till now, few calls, bluetooth on, some texts, very light usage.
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From wednesday till now, few calls, bluetooth on, some texts, very light usage.
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Still amazing! Which model hardware do you have? what rom? are you running any additional apps or just what's default? I'd love to replicate your setup on my 1/8 1900
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Truesmart, EU 512-4 2100 working sensors firmware with patch, removed some bloatware, all auto sync off (manual), switched to 2G gsm only, brightness to min, bluetooth always on because crappy mic. Additional apps:facebook, my budget book, hangouts, es file, airdroid, quikpic, teamviewer...
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just wanted to know what an average battery life is because my hero eats charge very very quickly
please post how long it lasts and how long you use it: games, browsing, music ect
I can get through the day with no real issue, have GPS on, WiFi on but set to switch off on screen off (advanced settings), Bluetooth on.
Twidroid set to update every 30 mins
HTC Mail set to manual update
FeedR (RSS) set to update every 4hrs
Facebook set to update every 4hrs
Use HTC Mail quite a bit when away from my Mac
Twidroid a lot during the day to tweet and read tweets
Never use it for music, browse a bit but not that much unless out and about.
Games rarely.
I did find (on the v1 firmware) that Peep and Stocks were real resource and battery killers. Since stopping using them the Hero has been rock solid and waay faster. even better now with the v2 firmware.
TBH, the battery lasts a lot longer than my Nokia N82 and N85 ever did and they were not using WiFi or Twitter etc.
4-8 hours but under crazy usage. If its my day off. 18 hours ish.
About 1 to 2 days. Occasionally, some process goes crazy and it drains the battery - usually after charging the phone. Now I tend to reboot after charging the phone. I don't have GPS running normally. WiFi switches off when not in range of my remembered networks. I have Advanced Task Manager to kill off processes. Removed Twitter from the phone. Use Twidroid - checks every 2 hours. Turned off data synchronization for calendar and contacts - I do that manually. I leave gmail on. I take 5 to 10 calls per day. If you receive a lot of messages and gmail, turning off audio notification/buzz will also reduce drain on your battery - but this trades off you getting notified in a timely fashion except via visual (flashing LED).
I found that killing off the Advanced Task Manager application reduced awake time on the phone from about 22% to about 12%. Killing off the actual application doesn't affect the part that periodically wakes up and kills tasks - it just removes the module that sits in the notification bar and displays running tasks and other system information. Checking the awake time gives a reasonable indication of other applications that keep your phone from sleeping and reducing power consumption. This extended my phone battery life another half day or so.
mine lasts for about 24-48 hours. depending on usage.
By running APNdroid, my battery holds its charge for 2 days
It barely lasts the day out, but I use it!! and dare I say, make calls on it during the course of the day, shock horror! The battery isn't great. Emails and calls mainly
3 days with all stuff off and listening to music.
But i do take a few calls a day, up to 15 mins daily for now.
about 24h with gmail and gcal on, exchange mail as it arrives and pop mail on 30min checks, weather sync on, about 30min browsing, 30min music, 30min talking and 30-60min playing games :/
me happy
should be more, shouldn't it?
from what i hear, iPhone lasts less, my Touch HD had a 1500mah battery and it lasted shorter, friend's Nokia E71 with 3 mail accounts set up doesn't make it over 12h really and she doesn't use it for anything but mail and sms/calls....i can't remember the last phone that lasted me 3 days, probably Nokia 6230, and that was long time ago :/
2 days easily with couple of hours of listening music per day and reading gmail / browsing a bit, sms and about an hour of talking.
I dont have Twitter sync on, no bluetooth, no wifi.. Google does sync all the time
with activesync set to receive emails as it arrives and no more than 30mins of calls, i get about 12hrs batt time before recharging.
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from what i hear, iPhone lasts less, my Touch HD had a 1500mah battery and it lasted shorter, friend's Nokia E71 with 3 mail accounts set up doesn't make it over 12h really and she doesn't use it for anything but mail and sms/calls....i can't remember the last phone that lasted me 3 days, probably Nokia 6230, and that was long time ago :/
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My Xperia did laste 3/4 days..... 1500.
But why don't these companies work on the batt preformance :S
Doubt it's relevant, but how do you charge your battery, and also your initial charge from new.
This is the first phone I've had that I didn't leave the initial charge on all night, and just took off after a few hours when it was charged up. Do you think that affects the performance of the battery?
Do any of you let it run out past the amber warning colour as a completely flat battery is probably better to charge?
The main reason I don't leave it on all night is because it gets really hot.
All my other phones were left on charge all night, every night, but they weren't this type of phone....
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I can get through the day with no real issue, have GPS on, WiFi on but set to switch off on screen off (advanced settings), Bluetooth on.
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How do you access the advances settings for WiFi?? Please tell me where to find them. Thanks.
The Hero dosen't last me a working day. But I make a lot of calls. I prefer to carry two batteries rather than having to keep turning things on and off...
2-3 days with most stuff on.
I get at least a full working day out of it, that's with 3g on for the majority of the day, lot of tweet/fb bit of web, some music, text and calls. Pretty good tbh, especially compared to my old n82!
About 24hrs when i use it alot and have WiFi on all the time..
I decided to do a "best case scenario" test, and see if some of my battery issues were from apps gone awry, or some other drain. I pulled my phone off the charger right after it went green, and let it sit on the table. Wifi is off, BT is on, and I'm using my airave, so the signal is a full 6 bars all the time. I have 3 email accounts configured. Two of them are direct push, and one is an IMAP poll once every 15 minutes. Few, if any, emails were received during this test. The breakdown is like this:
4hrs, 32mins on battery. Battery currently at 92%
Cell Standby: 33%
Phone Idle: 32%
Display: 23% (the display was only on for about 30 seconds of the entire test)
Bluetooth: 4%
Maps: 4%
Android OS: 4%
So at least i know there isn't a process running that is making my battery next to useless. My battery seems to be getting slightly better with each day of use, but I still can't wait for the extended battery/cover to be released. I really got used to that on my Evo.
Dave
that sounds a lot better than my setup.
I went from a full charge to 50% with very light usage in 8hrs . I've been asleep for over 7 hours.
Display: 29%
Cell Standby: 27%
Phone Idle: 26%
Android OS: 7%
Voice calls: 5%
Maps: 5%
However, I have horrible reception in my house, even next to the windows. All's fine as soon as i step out the door.
I've found that a weak signal has a dramatic affect on battery life with these phones. They do so much syncing in the background, and it takes so much longer with a weak signal (not to mention it has to transmit at a higher power). The signal makes all the difference.
Call sprint and get yourself an airave! They gave me mine for free.
Dave
do you guys have the display setting on auto or low brightness. My display usage is always through the roog. I am getting decent battery life. I turn 4g off usually and just use 3g unless I am gonna watch youtube videos or sometihng.
I unplugged the phone at 7:15 this morning and I have email, facebook all syncing. wifi off and I am at 92%. So far this phone is being very good at battery life, specially after the first few cycles.
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do you guys have the display setting on auto or low brightness. My display usage is always through the roog. I am getting decent battery life. I turn 4g off usually and just use 3g unless I am gonna watch youtube videos or sometihng.
I unplugged the phone at 7:15 this morning and I have email, facebook all syncing. wifi off and I am at 92%. So far this phone is being very good at battery life, specially after the first few cycles.
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My display is set to auto brightness.
nkd said:
do you guys have the display setting on auto or low brightness. My display usage is always through the roog. I am getting decent battery life. I turn 4g off usually and just use 3g unless I am gonna watch youtube videos or sometihng.
I unplugged the phone at 7:15 this morning and I have email, facebook all syncing. wifi off and I am at 92%. So far this phone is being very good at battery life, specially after the first few cycles.
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I have mine set at a number. I use a program to change my brightness at night.
7.5hrs & 70% battery left!!
Is it better to have the brightness automatic or a number like 30 percent?
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I just use auto brightness, I had about 11 hours use and 80% remaining taking a bunch of pictures, a little navigation and texting. This is with wifi on about half the time.
My battery was crap for the first three days with the phone, after calibrating the battery and giving it a few cycles its been really good for me. I do top off the battery usually before I pull it off the charger for the day.
I have mine set to auto and I see it changes even as I'm typing this message. Truth be told, the battery does drain when we don't have good signal...
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I just use auto brightness, I had about 11 hours use and 80% remaining taking a bunch of pictures, a little navigation and texting. This is with wifi on about half the time.
My battery was crap for the first three days with the phone, after calibrating the battery and giving it a few cycles its been really good for me. I do top off the battery usually before I pull it off the charger for the day.
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Is it better to have the brightness automatic or a number like 30 percent?
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Auto brightness us worse for your battery. This is because it has to use sensors every set time interval to check the lighting. It's not a TERRIBLE drain, but over the course of 4-5 hours it would probably save you 5-6% if you set it something lower .
And to the other person who asked, your battery life is SIGNIFICANTLY lowered when you have poor signal. What happens is your phone's radio draws extra power when it has poor reception in order to boost its range/signal. For those of you who work in places with poor signal, I bet you can attest to this
Also, I have a few battery tips in my signature if you're interested in more. It's slightly outdated (as in there are more methods now), but everything in the article is still true
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What do you mean by calibrate?
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Fully charge your phone, then use it until the battery complete drops...Then charge it again
How many cycles have people run on their batteries? IE full to dead?
I have auto brightness, GPS on Bluetooth on, email sync every 3 hours, weather sync evey 3 live wallpapers, and I forget the rest. Battery lasts me 12-24 hours, which is about what I got with my Hero modded out with setcpu and etc. I like the battery life of this phone.
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I have auto brightness, GPS on Bluetooth on, email sync every 3 hours, weather sync evey 3 live wallpapers, and I forget the rest. Battery lasts me 12-24 hours, which is about what I got with my Hero modded out with setcpu and etc. I like the battery life of this phone.
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How much screen time?
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What do you mean by calibrate?
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My phone died in about 6-7 hours of steady drain, then I calibrated by doing the same thing they told us to do with the OG evo.
Charge over 8 hours, turn off the phone charge another hour, turn the phone on charge another hour.
I top off by using the phone for a couple minutes, then putting it back on the charger until full. The phone clearly goes down to 95% from full while charging and back up, I like how on this phone you can see that it does it on the battery graph so you know.
I've had my phone off the charger for like 34 hours and I'm at around 48 percent battery remaining. Not heavy usage but not super light either.
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69% as of now. I had to reboot today so I can't say this is average. I know there are issues that can't be fixed until root, but as a stock ROM, it seems the power management isn't half bad.
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69% as of now. I had to reboot today so I can't say this is average. I know there are issues that can't be fixed until root, but as a stock ROM, it seems the power management isn't half bad.
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Sense has always been pretty good about power management (especially when you consider the puny batteries they put in their phones), and an asymmetric dual core processor definitely doesn't hurt haha
Just an update.
So I got the SGS2 last nite, about 5pm.
From 5pm to 8pm, I did send 3 short gmails and 2 sms.
Also tap on myATT to check the data usage once.
Receiving one phone call.
From 8pm to 12pm: plugging to charge, fully 100%. Unplug and power OFF @ midnite.
9am in the morning, making a 25' phone call.
10am, check myATT again and it showed I have consumed 11.01MB
Really???? From 5pm yesterday to 10am today with few emails/sms/checking myATT once and it already 11.01 MB???? Heck. Grrrr!!!
After 11:30am, turn ON bluetooth and paired with headset, made another 2' phone call via bluetooth, then turn bluetooth OFF, also turn GPS OFF.
Note: Wifi has never been turned ON.
Since then til now, 4:22pm EST, no call, no browsing, but receiving a lot of gmails (via ATT network since wifi is off), phone showed 6h53m battery life left.
With those activity listed above, I think the battery is weak.
We can indeed turn off both wifi and mobile network and still able to make/receive calls or send/receive sms. This will help save a bit of battery. That's good.
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Just an update.
So I got the SGS2 last nite, about 5pm.
From 5pm to 8pm, I did send 3 short gmails and 2 sms.
Also tap on myATT to check the data usage once.
Receiving one phone call.
From 8pm to 12pm: plugging to charge, fully 100%. Unplug and power OFF @ midnite.
9am in the morning, making a 25' phone call.
10am, check myATT again and it showed I have consumed 11.01MB
Really???? From 5pm yesterday to 10am today with few emails/sms/checking myATT once and it already 11.01 MB???? Heck. Grrrr!!!
After 11:30am, turn ON bluetooth and paired with headset, made another 2' phone call via bluetooth, then turn bluetooth OFF, also turn GPS OFF.
Note: Wifi has never been turned ON.
Since then til now, 4:22pm EST, no call, no browsing, but receiving a lot of gmails (via ATT network since wifi is off), phone showed 6h53m battery life left.
With those activity listed above, I think the battery is weak.
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You say you got the phone 5pm last night.
Your phone's battery needs to be cycled for 2-3 days before you can even get close to an accurate summary of battery usage.
Charge the phone until the battery is full, let it discharge with normal usage
3-4 times and after that you will be able to tell how good or how bad your
battery drainage might be on your phone.
Also it's a lot more accurate to test battery drainage if you conduct the
tests BEFORE you install any apps. Just use the phone STOCK for 3-4 days.
He also didn't say how much he was polling for email. Display settings?
And, as the poster above, you need to cycle the battery several times properly.
Nah, no need to cycle battery on most Samsungs, we don't have fuel gauges that need calibration.
A device needs to sit on the shelf for a VERY long time to develop a passivation layer.
Probably just typical "new user playing too much" or "user installed a crappy app like Skype almost immediately".
Although the high data usage is interesting - either Market updates of a new phone (possibly even downloading an OTA update), or you're on UCKH7 and the AP Mobile widget is acting up already.
My highest usage all last year was 400 MB in a month, and that involved quite a bit of tethering my Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Eh, I have an unlimited plan but 400mb isn't all that much. I have no idea how you did any sort of tethering without passing the 1gb mark. I don't stream very often, but will use Pandora or the AT&T Uverse app for college football occasionally. I average about 1gb or so, and have gone up to 4 (although that's far from normal for me).
I work for AT&T and the average user seems to consume about 500 MB in data a month, so if you're on the 200mb plan, you better have WIFI at home / work / school or wherever you spend most of your time.
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Just an update.
So I got the SGS2 last nite, about 5pm.
From 5pm to 8pm, I did send 3 short gmails and 2 sms.
Also tap on myATT to check the data usage once.
Receiving one phone call.
From 8pm to 12pm: plugging to charge, fully 100%. Unplug and power OFF @ midnite.
9am in the morning, making a 25' phone call.
10am, check myATT again and it showed I have consumed 11.01MB
Really???? From 5pm yesterday to 10am today with few emails/sms/checking myATT once and it already 11.01 MB???? Heck. Grrrr!!!
After 11:30am, turn ON bluetooth and paired with headset, made another 2' phone call via bluetooth, then turn bluetooth OFF, also turn GPS OFF.
Note: Wifi has never been turned ON.
Since then til now, 4:22pm EST, no call, no browsing, but receiving a lot of gmails (via ATT network since wifi is off), phone showed 6h53m battery life left.
With those activity listed above, I think the battery is weak.
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Whoops wrong button, anyways, yes there is a bunch of crapware installed on our phones, check out the list of known battery drainers and see if you use any of those. myATT takes a while to update, and its much easier to just type #3282* (data) on your dialer and hit call. Also, wifi would be preferred, as typically it uses less battery (at least thats what I see, especially with any kind of data). Disable automatic updates of alot of things such as apps, weather, stocks and whatnot (removing widgets also helsp), and first time, especially if you linked your facebook, its gonna download and sync all of your contacts and their profile images. 200mb is very restraining if thats what you have...
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He also didn't say how much he was polling for email. Display settings?
And, as the poster above, you need to cycle the battery several times properly.
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First of all, I am a totally newbie to smartphone, prior to 5pm on that day, I was still using the antiqued flip phone . However, I am familiar with Android OS a bit since dealing with the B&N NC. I tend to rip the NC apart w/o worrying anything, worst case, restore it confidently; SGS2 is on the other hand, it is a must have device, and I admit that I'm somehow afraid that I will mess it up. That's why still keeping it stock for now. But I eye to use UnNamed ROM along with Entropy512 DD kernel, it is on my list.
Secondly, to answer akira, I have no idea how much I was polling for email, as I said, I left H+ on all the time, so I got every single gmail that sent to me.
Display settings? you meant brightness? or display the Phone Status?
@penguin,
Yes, it's just like new lappy, tons of pre-installed crapware. I was thinking either I manually uninstall them or wait until out of warranty and put the UnNamed or any great custom ROM on it.
You know what, anytime I check myATT on the SGS2, it consumes data, so I found a cheating, sneaky way that checking it using wifi (not using ATT network) or using my NC . The reason I am so focus on it 'cuz I only have 200MB plan, if I use much more than that I will switch plan later, but for now, 200MB plan and using wifi.
You do know you can return to 100% complete stock right? As long as you read and follow directions, there's a miniscule chance of hurting this device, it's very resilient.
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You do know you can return to 100% complete stock right? As long as you read and follow directions, there's a miniscule chance of hurting this device, it's very resilient.
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Thanks for your note, m8.
And honestly no.
Like I said, I just own a smartphone for 2 days, so admittedly I never set a foot (or should I say a finger ) on this forum until now. I am still on the reading/learning curves. Many devices have their different capability, for instance the B&N NC is virtually unbrickable so we (NC users) do have a lot of fun whacking it. If hitting problem, XDA is here for help .
SGS2 is a phone, if we're not confident and if we mess something up, we freak out or panic. hehehehe, at least that's on my mind
The reason I said "no" above because I read some posts and they said only 95% back to original, not 100%. Is it still true?
Anyway, big thank for your confirm.
Alright, so I went online and checked out the data usage.
At around 4:57pm, Internet/Media Net from phone took up 11345KB in one shot.
Don't know what that was
Maybe activating process? Getting H+ to work? Initial setup? Whatever, that's what it was.
The other Internet/Media Net from phone @9:03am and 5:14pm, don't remember what I did? Maybe 1 gmail and 1 sms? Either way, 1 of them took roughly 2MB. Woww.
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You should really get 2gb on your first month to see how much data you use and not risk paying overages, after that you can decide what to do with how you want to use your phone.
I'm not worry, m8, I'm more like an old fashion guy who not using phone internet much. I am pretty much working and/or wifi accessing all the time
Just try to see how much MB I do use a month since with wifi, I never ever pay attention.
Just another update.
A few days ago, phone was at 33% battery life around 11pm, left H+ on overnite with screen turned off, in the next morning @ 8am, checked, phone was still at 33%.
Last nite, phone was at 87% at 11pm, left wifi on (no H+) overnite with screen turned off, this morning @ 8am, it only has 81% left . Recheck at 9:30am, it's 79%.
I thought wifi consumes less power than 3G, left alone 4G/H+, hmmmm
H+ is only active when transferring data. It's basically using multiple connections of 3g to get faster overall connection, so it was in 3g all night. Also you should try with the battery fully charged and check to make sure your phone was not awake. I know that I drop 1 or 2% overnight with either wifi or cell data.
Thanks, m8
Good to know.
At first, I always think 3G consume more power than wifi. Then reading posts, seems to be 8 out of 10 people claim wifi consume less 'cuz shorter Tx (like wifi at home) distance, final answer from them is "testing yourself" so I did and it got me a surprise that in my case, wifi seems to use more.
Learning every day.
Well every person is different. I live in an area with low signal, so it usually takes a couple of tries to actually get the data, and I have multiple apps checking every 15-30 minutes (but phone still stays in deep sleep). The thing with android is that everyone is different and has different apps that affect battery life.
Update:
Last nite, 01/05, phone was at 87% at 11pm, left wifi on (no H+) overnite with screen turned off, this morning @ 8am, it only has 81% left . Recheck at 9:30am, it's 79%.
Beside 20' talk via bluetooth (after than turn off bluetooth) no other activity in the morning until noon.
Turn on wifi, keep it on until 6:30pm. Did download and install a few apps w/i 15' max, battery at 62%.
At 6:30pm, turn off wifi, turn on H+, turn on gps, turn on bluetooth.
Another 25' talk via bluetooth while driving along with Maps GPS on.
Arrive home, phone has 45% left.
Wowww
With very limited usage, the phone lasts only about a day
Woman, battery drained too fast, grrrrr.
With my normal usage, it probably last 4 hours.
I don't know it is what it is or I actually has a defect battery pack?
I don't know if anyone has tried this yet, but after I have tested it for almost a full work day I can say it's definitely worth using..
Try this: After you completely charge your phone, turn on Power Saver (make sure all options are checked in settings)
Leave it on, don't turn it off, for the entire day.
I had absolutely no slow down.. no problem receiving timely texts/notifications.. the only thing that is a minor annoyance is that screen brightness stays low no matter what, so if you view your screen in full sunlight a lot this will not be for you.. otherwise, HOLY CRAP this makes your phone literally sip power all day.
9 hrs 21 mins 44 secs since I unplugged my phone this morning and I have 63% battery left!
That's roughly 3.96% battery drain per hour!!
This means I will get something like 24-25 hours before I hit zero.. this is with using the phone like normal, where I would normally need to charge after about 16 hours.
Insane. Best battery life I've ever had on a stock phone, and yes I know those monstrosities like the Note 2 can go longer (huge battery..) or if you want to tweak your phone with custom kernels, etc.
But daaaamn I have to say I am impressed.
Leaving Power Saver on from now on!
Btw I should add this is without Wi-Fi, in a LTE area that bounces from LTE to HSPA a lot.. WiFi left on but never connecting to a router
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Also, I do have sleep mode on in settings
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Update. Battery running down a little faster while on my home Wi-Fi watching videos and surfing the net. Don't think I'll make it 24 hours but I am using the phone pretty heavy. I've also noticed that the auto brightness seems to be working overtime whereas it never budged during the day. Tomorrow I'll set my brightness manually to stay at ~30% and turn off the screen option in power saver. See if that yields even better results. So far it appears auto brightness is a power consumer on this phone. We'll see if I'm right tomorrow. I'm at 23% at 14hrs 21mins
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I should add that normally I would have charged the phone by now for about two hours since I do most of my heavy usage at night, and when I get home from work I'm already at 20%. But when I've let it run down almost all the way it's been an average of about 15-16 hours
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OK so today I kept Power Saver on, but unchecked the "screen" option so that I the screen would adjust as normal to the ambient light conditions. I am finding that the power consumption is essentially the same, very minor change. I now believe that it is Wi-Fi that was causing a quicker drain than LTE/HSPA does, simply because Power Saver does not include an option to cut the Wi-Fi connection when the screen is off.
I will change my Wi-Fi settings to sleep when screen is off and see if that keeps the battery draining at the same slow pace when I am at home connected to my router. I'll try that tonight. If that works successfully, I should get an easy 20 hours + from one charge with normal use (including my evening usage which is heavier usage).
Last night I hit 18 hours and 22 minutes before plugging in at 12% remaining battery without changing the Wi-Fi sleep setting. Hopefully this will be the last test necessary to find the best set up for longer battery life.
Feel free to chime in if anyone else is testing this!
I haven't test the difference between Power Saving and normal. I put Power Saving On in the morning right after a full charge.
I have medium usage for about 20 minutes in the morning using wifi. (It would drop to about 94%). I then turn off wifi and mobile and by 1pm, I have about 82%-88%. I would have about 20 minute usage on mobile data during lunch (flux between 3g, H and rarely LTE). By the time I leave work, it's around 74%. This is when I turn off power saving since I'm usually heading home. Another 20 minutes of medium to heavy usage over H/LTE when on the subway. By the time I get home, it's around 70%. After this, it takes at least about an hour of heavy activity to drain it down to 50% off power saving.
I have the 64 GB Developer Edition and running ARHD 12.1 with the latest T-Mobile Radio.
I've always left power saver on at all times and don't notice any slowdown. One exception is that I don't enable power saver on the screen as it's damn near impossible to see the screen outside. I get pretty damn good battery life on stock rom. Over 3 hrs screen on time in 24 hr period of half mobile data and half wifi.
For enabling and disabling wifi automatically, I use the app wifi matic and it's worked well.
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I can easily say the dim screen option is completely unnecessary. Everything is working perfectly, there's no slowdown whatsoever. Even set keep Wi-Fi awake to never. Phone flies, and honestly the data connectivity is ten times better with power saver on. Without it, I would see my phone jump to 2G in a moment of bad coverage and then take FOREVER to reconnect to LTE or HSPA. Now when I unlock my phone it's instantly connected, as if a radio refresh is instant on power saver but laggy as hell without it. I'm very pleased.
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I had absolutely no slow down.. no problem receiving timely texts/notifications..
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Just thinking out loud here...
I don't see how with the data connection off you could have "no problem receiving timely...notifications." What "notifications" are you talking about not missing? Are you saying you actually got cloud-service-based notifications while the phone was sleeping?
Texts/SMS of course would still come in because they don't travel over the data connection, they travel over the voice network.
Email, twitter, etc., they shouldn't get their notifications since that stuff travels over the data connection.
Google Voice users (like me), would miss out on their text messages since those travel over the data connection.
I'll need to test this some. Maybe with the data connection turned off via this setting, the phone actually periodically fires it up to check for notifications, or responds to apps requesting a quick data connection to pull notifications.
UPDATE: Hmmm...turned on power saver, turned on the data disconnect option, put phone to sleep by pressing power button. Waited a minute. Sent myself a google voice # text message and the phone buzzed immediately. Very curious.
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Just thinking out loud here...
I don't see how with the data connection off you could have "no problem receiving timely...notifications." What "notifications" are you talking about not missing? Are you saying you actually got cloud-service-based notifications while the phone was sleeping?
Texts/SMS of course would still come in because they don't travel over the data connection, they travel over the voice network.
Email, twitter, etc., they shouldn't get their notifications since that stuff travels over the data connection.
Google Voice users (like me), would miss out on their text messages since those travel over the data connection.
I'll need to test this some. Maybe with the data connection turned off via this setting, the phone actually periodically fires it up to check for notifications, or responds to apps requesting a quick data connection to pull notifications.
UPDATE: Hmmm...turned on power saver, turned on the data disconnect option, put phone to sleep by pressing power button. Waited a minute. Sent myself a google voice # text message and the phone buzzed immediately. Very curious.
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I was confused about that same thing. I think it only turns off your data if you havent touched your phone in a while.
If I turn it off, put it down, and pick it up 5 mins later, the data is still connected.
If I turn it off and its in my pocket for an hour, I take it out, the data service is usually trying to reconnect.
I have to admit the way HTC implemented their power saver is impressive. It literally does not delay a single notification. Facebook, Gmail, Hangouts, Scramble with Friends, anything that is set up to notify me works without a hitch. Everything is instant.. compare this to "power saver" mode on the Galaxy line which pretty much cripples the phone.
There is NO reason whatsoever to not have Power Saver turned on with the HTC One. Best implementation ever.
I've had no delays even after not touching the phone for a solid hour. Still get them.
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I was confused about that same thing. I think it only turns off your data if you havent touched your phone in a while.
If I turn it off, put it down, and pick it up 5 mins later, the data is still connected.
If I turn it off and its in my pocket for an hour, I take it out, the data service is usually trying to reconnect.
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Okay, a little google search reveals the secret behind the data connection magic:
If you want to choose which phone features to conserve power for, tap the Power saver notification first before you turn power saver mode on.
Note: If Data connection is selected, HTC One X automatically disconnects from the mobile network after 15 minutes when it's in sleep mode and the data connection is idle (no download activity, streaming, or data usage). It reconnects and then disconnects periodically when the data connection is idle to save battery power.
This is from the HTC One X support site, but the same quote is on many of the devices, but oddly not our HTC One. I think it's safe to assume it's the same for our device, whether published or not.
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I have to admit the way HTC implemented their power saver is impressive. It literally does not delay a single notification. Facebook, Gmail, Hangouts, Scramble with Friends, anything that is set up to notify me works without a hitch. Everything is instant.. compare this to "power saver" mode on the Galaxy line which pretty much cripples the phone.
There is NO reason whatsoever to not have Power Saver turned on with the HTC One. Best implementation ever.
I've had no delays even after not touching the phone for a solid hour. Still get them.
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My phone's been untouched for an hour or so, and I just sent it a Google Voice text message. Buzzed instantly, and in light of my above research, it looks like you're correct. I'm certainly going to run with this setting on for a day or two at least for further testing. I only have CPU and data enabled in the settings. My testing the next few days may not be the best, as I'll likely be on wi-fi most of the time, although I could turn wi-fi setting to disconnect wi-fi when sleeping.
I've been using that Qualcomm Snapdragon battery guru app, and Greenify on my phone, so it gets damned good battery all things considered anyways, and I also am not afraid to go on charger during the day, but every little bit helps.
Just a few comments on the power saver:
I've noticed that power saver doesn't disconnect the background data immediately... it does it after a longer interval of non-usage.
Otherwise, it's great. I'm not sure if it's the screen dimming or the underclocking, but it really makes a definite difference in the battery life. I also turn it on for a lot of games (cough, dead space) and it helps keep the phone cooler while gaming.
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Just a few comments on the power saver:
I've noticed that power saver doesn't disconnect the background data immediately... it does it after a longer interval of non-usage.
Otherwise, it's great. I'm not sure if it's the screen dimming or the underclocking, but it really makes a definite difference in the battery life. I also turn it on for a lot of games (cough, dead space) and it helps keep the phone cooler while gaming.
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Not the screen dimming, because I don't use that option.
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FYI, it underclocks the CPU so the max is about 1.2ghz; When using Faux Control App, I toggled the Power Saver from the notification and can see it go down to about 1.2 ghz when "On" and when switched off my CPU clock maxes out back to 2ghz.
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FYI, it underclocks the CPU so the max is about 1.2ghz; When using Faux Control App, I toggled the Power Saver from the notification and can see it go down to about 1.2 ghz when "On" and when switched off my CPU clock maxes out back to 2ghz.
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Yeah I figure that would be the clock speed, but I haven't suffered any loss of performance which is amazing to me.
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I have to admit the way HTC implemented their power saver is impressive. It literally does not delay a single notification. Facebook, Gmail, Hangouts, Scramble with Friends, anything that is set up to notify me works without a hitch. Everything is instant.. compare this to "power saver" mode on the Galaxy line which pretty much cripples the phone.
There is NO reason whatsoever to not have Power Saver turned on with the HTC One. Best implementation ever.
I've had no delays even after not touching the phone for a solid hour. Still get them.
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I can also concur to this fact; since day one of owning this phone I've had power saver on permanently set and I've never experienced performance issues like in other phones, its been smooth, and helpful. The amount of usage I submit my phone to in one day its enough to make any other phone live permanently connected to the charger, and I get at least 1.5 days of juice.
I agree, HTC did a good job with their power saver mode.
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9 hrs 21 mins 44 secs since I unplugged my phone this morning and I have 63% battery left!
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6 hrs 23 mins 3 secs since i unplugged it and still have 82% without using PowerSafer. switching between very low LTE and very good hspa all the time and i'm using it quiet often checking facebook, twitter, mails, whatsapp and news.
The only Powersaving App I installed is "Wifi-Matic" wich turns on Wifi only if i'm connected to a specific radio station. Check in to your wlan one time and it will safe the radio stations around. if you aren't connect to this stations it will disable Wifi by itself. Works great for me! (Checking radiostations every 15 mins).
This means for me loosing 2,889% every hour without dimming the screen or something else
Give it a try and compare
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6 hrs 23 mins 3 secs since i unplugged it and still have 82% without using PowerSafer. switching between very low LTE and very good hspa all the time and i'm using it quiet often checking facebook, twitter, mails, whatsapp and news.
The only Powersaving App I installed is "Wifi-Matic" wich turns on Wifi only if i'm connected to a specific radio station. Check in to your wlan one time and it will safe the radio stations around. if you aren't connect to this stations it will disable Wifi by itself. Works great for me! (Checking radiostations every 15 mins).
This means for me loosing 2,889% every hour without dimming the screen or something else
Give it a try and compare
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How about you try that, with power saver on as well, and report back?
Besides, if you're barely using your phone at all, then yes it will be saving power with sleep mode alone. All I know is I have several friends who move in and out of bad reception/data areas, and now their battery is lasting a whole heck of a lot longer using power saver. It sounds like what you're using is somewhat of a power saver as well.. but you are in a good coverage area too so it's hard to say.
Btw, my figures were with Wifi always on - never switched off, ever.. and I still had greatly extended battery life.
I have read the other battery problem posts and haven't seen that anyone has reported similar problem to mine...
Typically I have a full day of use with my Gear S (BT on; wifi, mobile and gps off) and come home with about 45-60% battery.
However, about once a week I have had it suddenly chime with the low battery alert after only 2-3 hours, same settings!
What is going on? Notifications from Google Now are kind-of excessive (once an hour), but don't have any special apps installed except Watch Styler and Zooper wearable widgets. Anyone else with random poor battery performance?
groovekids said:
I have read the other battery problem posts and haven't seen that anyone has reported similar problem to mine...
Typically I have a full day of use with my Gear S (BT on; wifi, mobile and gps off) and come home with about 45-60% battery.
However, about once a week I have had it suddenly chime with the low battery alert after only 2-3 hours, same settings!
What is going on? Notifications from Google Now are kind-of excessive (once an hour), but don't have any special apps installed except Watch Styler and Zooper wearable widgets. Anyone else with random poor battery performance?
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Mine has better battery life on some days than others. I haven't had it that long but all of my settings remain the same, but its definitely not as drastic of a difference.
Hmmm, wish it was that way for me. I'm sure one of apps is hanging in the background after being triggered or opened, though not sure which one or what else it could be. :-/
Same Problem
When I am work, my battery dies in less than 8 hours even with VERY little use. When I am away from work (weekends, etc.), my battery will go all day with phone calls and texts and even GPS usage. I'm wondering if it's related to the Wi-Fi or cell signal I get in my office. I have Wi-Fi turned off on the watch but it made no difference. Something must be "active" to cause it to drain that fast! Less than 8 hours with very minimal use.....WTF??????
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When I am work, my battery dies in less than 8 hours even with VERY little use. When I am away from work (weekends, etc.), my battery will go all day with phone calls and texts and even GPS usage. I'm wondering if it's related to the Wi-Fi or cell signal I get in my office. I have Wi-Fi turned off on the watch but it made no difference. Something must be "active" to cause it to drain that fast! Less than 8 hours with very minimal use.....WTF??????
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Is your mobile network on the watch set to auto or always On? Maybe you can try turning it off and see if it helps save battery life..
I agree with the post about turning your cellular data off as the watch will constantly try to get information and if it is a weak signal it causes battery drain.
Well ever since i switched the cellular data to edge my battery consumption it reduced to almost blue tooth levels...about 3-4 % per hour [emoji2] i can can have it remotely connected all day with out any problems.
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groovekids said:
I have read the other battery problem posts and haven't seen that anyone has reported similar problem to mine...
Typically I have a full day of use with my Gear S (BT on; wifi, mobile and gps off) and come home with about 45-60% battery.
However, about once a week I have had it suddenly chime with the low battery alert after only 2-3 hours, same settings!
What is going on? Notifications from Google Now are kind-of excessive (once an hour), but don't have any special apps installed except Watch Styler and Zooper wearable widgets. Anyone else with random poor battery performance?
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I've notice that some clock styles are huge battery drainers and mobile data on, eats up your battery like crazy, also motion. BATTERY IS THE ONLY BIG DISAPPOINTMENT THIS WATCH HAS
For me the trick was to never turn my watch off! I now put it in airplane mode overnight and deselect in the morning. I'm still not sure what causes my problem, but powering up the watch would result in about 20% battery loss per hour. I think it is a software loop running in the background after the watch engages in system update check. Now I get through the day with about 50% battery remaining and can use motions and even always-on.