ORly? New RAZR MAX Coming? - Motorola Droid RAZR

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/12/motorola-droid-razr-max/

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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/12/motorola-droid-razr-max/
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If its anytime soon you bet your ass i will be leveraging big red to swap us o.g. razr owners out into this new Pepsi err i mean razr max

Are you serious right now....

Man, I don't even want to look at any new phones right now! Ahhhh!

Man, Moto is pissing out a new phone every two months these days. Thats messed up.

If this phone is put out to address current razr issues as stated then we all have a right to this device at no additional charge or change in our contract. Seems like motor/Verizon are admitting guilt with this.

This better be a joke. #$%#$%@#$%%&*^%%[email protected]#[email protected]$!

"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course

The question is... did we get the RAZR to have the best and show it off to friends and to be on top of the phone game or.... did you get it cause it's a super duper cool phone that you will enjoy to use?
There will ALWAYS be a better spec'd phone out there than the one you currently have, unless you get one every three weeks or so.

jms_uk said:
"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course
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You on the xt910 or 912 ? The GSM version doesn't support 4g and does not have the same issues as the Droid razr

opensourcefan said:
The question is... did we get the RAZR to have the best and show it off to friends and to be on top of the phone game or.... did you get it cause it's a super duper cool phone that you will enjoy to use?
There will ALWAYS be a better spec'd phone out there than the one you currently have, unless you get one every three weeks or so.
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True,...its just usually not by the same manufacturer.

I'm not having any battery issues. I haven't set up any smart actions yet and keep the screen at 100% and I get a full day with moderate use. My DX running CM7GB never came close to that. I had to carry extra batteriesif I was going anywhere after work. I couldn't even make it through a 10 hour workday without recharging. I'm very happy with the Razr. I just want to know what to do after 500 charges and I'm still under contract!

jms_uk said:
"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course
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Re battery comments, my home and office are literally just one mile and over a hill from four bars of 4G, so I'm on strong 3G most of the time. I don't use WiFi much, dozens of emails, perhaps an hour or so of calls, numerous SMS, market updates / downloads, Angry Birds, surfing, and I can easily go from fully charged at 0600 to 30% battery at 2200.
This is perfectly acceptable for my needs, but as noted above, no 4G, and I find that WiFi draws my battery faster than idling on 3G--which seems contrary to the experience of many others. This is better than my T-Bolt, and even tho I travel a lot, I don't mind the sealed battery--I carry a couple iGo 1,540 chargers instead of a couple T-Bolt batteries when traveling.

Hopefully everyone realizes that's a Photoshop image with an article based on a story from a Verizon store employee. The same employees that normally do not know JACK SQUAT about when a phone is coming out... But either way, there's ALWAYS going to be a better phone out several months after you buy yours.

There will be newer models for sure. Why everyone is being unhappy with that ? Would you like to follow a brand like SE who still sells singlecore phones ?
Get over this bs and get used to technology if you like to follow it.

Yay 4 Juggs said:
You on the xt910 or 912 ? The GSM version doesn't support 4g and does not have the same issues as the Droid razr
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xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too

i thinkit might be The model for the china carrier

jms_uk said:
xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too
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The xt910 doesn't have the connectivity issues we have thus causing further drain...

jms_uk said:
xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too
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I'm using the gsm version now and the battery is as expected. I've had plenty of dual core phones this year and they all seem to have similar battery life.Compared to my last phone, a sgs2, the battery is not quite as good, but it is very close.
Sent from my Droid Razr XT910

Instead of releasing a new phone to piss us off, they can recall all RAZRs back to replace the battery with a more capable one (as the user shouldn't be able of replacing it himself, but it's easy to replace) and sell the new RAZRs with already the new battery.
Or damn at least Moto, make the new MAXX battery to be compatible with the "old" RAZR, so that we can replace it "losing the warranty"...

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Calling Verizon about these issues.

Has anyone tried calling Verizon about these issues? If so, what did they do about it?
They shouldn't be giving out the same phone, when the problem isn't hardware, it's software, and all the phones they send out will have the same software which won't make any difference.
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Avelnan said:
Has anyone tried calling Verizon about these issues? If so, what did they do about it?
They shouldn't be giving out the same phone, when the problem isn't hardware, it's software, and all the phones they send out will have the same software which won't make any difference.
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..........what issues
The slowness, the crashing, etc.
I'm on #6 from Verizon's "certified like new" replacement program. I've told them every time it is defective hardware that the device is shipped with and there's no way they can physically "repair" it. They say that they cannot do anything about it but ship me another "certified like new" replacement phone of the same model.
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The slowness, the crashing, etc.
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i have never had my phone crash on me or random reboot.
slowness is relative, for the most part the supercharger script fixed the issues I had, but yes we need 2.3 to fully take advantage of both cores
Device1: Issues with 3g and wifi
Device2: Hardware screen problems
Device3: Would no activate, randomly shut off while trying to activate. Activated via website, couldn't make calls.
Device4: Receives multiple SMS messages and a pixel is out on the screen (after 1 week use)
Device5: Same problem as device 3.
Awaiting device 6. I haven't had the best of luck with the DroidX2. I'm really wanting to take advantage of the dual core greatness when GB finally hits, but I'm very very tempted to switch over to an Inc2.
Opinions?
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Device1: Issues with 3g and wifi
Device2: Hardware screen problems
Device3: Would no activate, randomly shut off while trying to activate. Activated via website, couldn't make calls.
Device4: Receives multiple SMS messages and a pixel is out on the screen (after 1 week use)
Device5: Same problem as device 3.
Awaiting device 6. I haven't had the best of luck with the DroidX2. I'm really wanting to take advantage of the dual core greatness when GB finally hits, but I'm very very tempted to switch over to an Inc2.
Opinions?
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you could switch but then you will just find problems with the inc2...not trying to be a smartass its just how it is unfortunatly
only device i was ever 100% happy with was my N1 and NS...everything else made me wanna bash my head into the wall
Am I the only one who hasn't had any real problems yet? I did only get it 2 weeks ago, but so far the worse that has happened was 1 random reboot which seemed to resend an old text to my friend. Since then though no issues. Especially since rooting it.
I tried calling them and they said if I have the problem again, they will do their best to get me into a different device, although this phone was a replacement for my Fascinate so I'm highly doubtful they will do much about it.
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This is a pretty crappy phone out of the box. It took the v6 script to make it bearable. Would be nice if Motorola did it out of the box. I felt like I was using my old G1 for a while instead of a dual core phone.
Out of the box I had so many problems it wasn't even funny. I had reboots, crashes, force quits like mad... all of it related to motoblur (I'm almost certain of that). Before the full hour of ownership passed, I had finalized my research, rooted, scripted, froze, and replaced every component I could safely. Since then I haven't seen any problems. My battery lasts for about three days and barely even gets down to 60%. Three weeks into ownership, not one hiccup since the zero hour.
So, before I did anything with the phone... it sucked out of the box... and it always will until Motorola pulls their head out of their asses.
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Out of the box I had so many problems it wasn't even funny. I had reboots, crashes, force quits like mad... all of it related to motoblur (I'm almost certain of that). Before the full hour of ownership passed, I had finalized my research, rooted, scripted, froze, and replaced every component I could safely. Since then I haven't seen any problems. My battery lasts for about three days and barely even gets down to 60%. Three weeks into ownership, not one hiccup since the zero hour.
So, before I did anything with the phone... it sucked out of the box... and it always will until Motorola pulls their head out of their asses.
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I did all of the above and still have all of those issues. You are one lucky sir.
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Out of the box I had so many problems it wasn't even funny. I had reboots, crashes, force quits like mad... all of it related to motoblur (I'm almost certain of that). Before the full hour of ownership passed, I had finalized my research, rooted, scripted, froze, and replaced every component I could safely. Since then I haven't seen any problems. My battery lasts for about three days and barely even gets down to 60%. Three weeks into ownership, not one hiccup since the zero hour.
So, before I did anything with the phone... it sucked out of the box... and it always will until Motorola pulls their head out of their asses.
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Three days for a single charge? Do you not use it at all? Mine gets maybe half a day.
Elite49 said:
Three days for a single charge? Do you not use it at all? Mine gets maybe half a day.
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I get 12 hours. With heavy usage.
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I got my Droid X2 the day it came out, and have had zero problems with it that were unbearable. Occasionally it does reboot randomly, but it's like whatever, it does it once a week maybe. The battery is incredible, I can last a fully day if I do nothing but play heavy games and/or other heavy usage. I haven't had any force close issues, and it sure as hell isn't slow.
I don't understand all these posts saying it's slow and crappy...
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I got my Droid X2 the day it came out, and have had zero problems with it that were unbearable. Occasionally it does reboot randomly, but it's like whatever, it does it once a week maybe. The battery is incredible, I can last a fully day if I do nothing but play heavy games and/or other heavy usage. I haven't had any force close issues, and it sure as hell isn't slow.
I don't understand all these posts saying it's slow and crappy...
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Well it must be nice to be you.
uhh186 said:
I got my Droid X2 the day it came out, and have had zero problems with it that were unbearable. Occasionally it does reboot randomly, but it's like whatever, it does it once a week maybe. The battery is incredible, I can last a fully day if I do nothing but play heavy games and/or other heavy usage. I haven't had any force close issues, and it sure as hell isn't slow.
I don't understand all these posts saying it's slow and crappy...
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this. really haven't had any problems out of it that would make me want to get rid of it......
uhh186 said:
I got my Droid X2 the day it came out, and have had zero problems with it that were unbearable. Occasionally it does reboot randomly, but it's like whatever, it does it once a week maybe. The battery is incredible, I can last a fully day if I do nothing but play heavy games and/or other heavy usage. I haven't had any force close issues, and it sure as hell isn't slow.
I don't understand all these posts saying it's slow and crappy...
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I also have to say you are lucky! I got it online day one and was having an amazing amount of reboots and really just plain horrible performance. I was begging for my HTC Hero200 with CM7 till I rooted the phone got launcher pro & put on the V6 script. Since then things have been slightly better than the Hero but I was expecting so much more!
Rooted and supercharged here. I have zero problems. I LOVE MY DX2!!!
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Verizon doesn't care... why? Cuz they already have our money... so its technically our own fault because we keep giving Motorola another chance and keep buying these phones.... and why bash the dinc2 ? It already has s-off so they are running custom roms as we speak. I will never buy another motorola product espicially after what they just pulled with the Droid 3.

Dissapointed in SGS2

Well after the WOW effect wore off my phone, i am starting to HATE the flaws.
I bought this phone outright for a hefty $600 and hoping i did not waste my money switching over from blackberry.
MY problems
Bluetooth disconnects every 15 minutes, plus sounds like garbage, i did some reading on this and its a common problem yet appears to not be addressed yet? i am using a Jawbone Icon by the way and its dual connected to my work BB
Data(HSPDA) randomly disconnects at least once every 2 days and requires me to pull the battery to get it back going.
Battery drain is beyond crazy, i cant get 5 hours out of the phone with moderate use.
This thing heats up like crazy!!!
I know the last two things are software related, and people say upgrade to KG2, well my phone had 2.3.3 and KG2 and this is what it shipped with, so what should i go to?
Or can i just solve all of these issue by rooting the phone? if so, i will go that route.
Thanks.
Dustin
if you want to go that way(rooting,FLashing Roms)
Think twice, the SGS2 has a binary counter that counts how many times you flashed unofficial software on the phone,
if you brick it or something happens, screen breaks etc, you might ran into some problems @ samsung if they check the counter
you can reset it yourself by buying a JIG, google it!
I've had no issues with my bluetooth headset (logitech freepluse). i'd guess it doesnt like being dual connected
I've had no issues with losing my data connection (i did on galaxy s though). how strong is your signal before you lose it?
as for the battery drain, make sure you're exiting your apps + all the usual other stuff (turn off sync, wifi, bt, set to autobrightness). 2.3.3 does have the drainage issue for some people. i'm on villainrom 2.3.4 and have no drainage issues
rooting won't help you out.
HSDPA disconnects? if you have H always on that means you are either downloading or uploading something most of the time, H only turns on when there is data being pulled or sent, you should see the 3G icon MOST of the time, if you are streaming music/video then you'll see the H kicking in.
I have a Jawbone Cruiser and have no issues whatsoever I have 2 devices paired to it but only 1 at a time, A2DP works flawless and it even sounds better than the original Galaxy S.
duggyb said:
Well after the WOW effect wore off my phone, i am starting to HATE the flaws.
I bought this phone outright for a hefty $600 and hoping i did not waste my money switching over from blackberry.
MY problems
Bluetooth disconnects every 15 minutes, plus sounds like garbage, i did some reading on this and its a common problem yet appears to not be addressed yet? i am using a Jawbone Icon by the way and its dual connected to my work BB
I get zero disconnect .
Data(HSPDA) randomly disconnects at least once every 2 days and requires me to pull the battery to get it back going.
never happened yet on many roms .
This thing heats up like crazy!!!
Warm but not overhot .
I know the last two things are software related, and people say upgrade to KG2, well my phone had 2.3.3 and KG2 and this is what it shipped with, so what should i go to?
KH3 latest stock firmware on this forum .
Or can i just solve all of these issue by rooting the phone? if so, i will go that route.
Rooting has nothing to do with battery problems all it does if give user a lower level access to the OS .
Hundreds of battery problem posts with tips methods etc but for me the starter has to be ,
better battery stats .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Find what apps are draining the battery .
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Dear me another Apple fanboy on here
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duggyb said:
Or can i just solve all of these issue by rooting the phone? if so, i will go that route.
Thanks.
Dustin
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Rooting will not solve these issues, but I can maybe enable you to start solving it.
However, before you start messing with kernels and firmwares I would really try to find out if some of the problems might be hardware related or not. If so, you could use your warranty to get a new one or get it fixed. Once you start messing with custom software you're never sure if they will grant you the warranty or not.
jonny68 said:
Dear me another Apple fanboy on here
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not sure where you get that from? i actually hate apple and take that post as quite an insult, one and only thing i ever owned from them was a ipod way back, and it got stolen 2 mths after i bought it and i never replaced it.
that aside, i came from a Blackberry Curve 8330, although it sucked, it did have good bluetooth connectivity,decent battery life, and did not heat up, keep in mind it was a CDMA phone.
so i know i have some changes to expect with a new network, but it appears lots of these have been fixed by people and i am just trying to understand the software and device, KG2 KY this,etc is all new to me, so i have been reading lots but find it confusing since its so vast.
needless to say it will be kind of disappointing if i cant connect 2 devices to my jawbone icon at the same time and work flawless, as this is huge for me.
Also i NEVER see 3G data show up on my phone, its always the H with up and down arrows, should i see 3G? im up in Canada(Saskatchewan to be exact)
It appears i should update from KG2, yet KIES shows no update, i have not dove into Odin to try that out, maybe i should?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Dustin
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Dear me another Apple fanboy on here :rolleyes
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To be scrupulously fair, the OP confesses to having come from Blackberry.
He is therefore not the spawn of Satan, merely just a second cousin of a minor demon...
Gustopher said:
To be scrupulously fair, the OP confesses to having come from Blackberry.
He is therefore not the spawn of Satan, merely just a second cousin of a minor demon...
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fair enough Blackberry not quite as bad unless your planning on rioting in your town or city
ill do my best
lool! some of these guys on here are too funny. ok how the f*** are u only getting 5 hours? i get 14-16hrs moderate use . i really would suggest rooting your phone. it really helps! i mean with the overheating problem i have under volted and under clocked my cpu and my phone doesnt heat up no more! woooop! lol. funny that my 3g and bluetooth is perfectly fine. oh and rooting is very very easy now and odin is quality and... simple . as im typing this im flashing another rom, lol. flashaholic . its a really good phone and ive had many many phones.
so now i have mixed reviews? should i root or not.
i really just want to solve my issues!
i installed Battery Stats but have no idea how to screenshot?
duggyb said:
so now i have mixed reviews? should i root or not.
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Rooting doesn't solve anything, just gives you access to hidden files. You need to flash a newer rom(kh3 or kh5) and hope it fixes those issues.
I agree with the above poster, I've been using android since inception and I don't believe in rooting a phone to mask the issues you are having, upgrade the software, there are many roms to choose from, get the device running well before you think about rooting.
People are giving new android users the impression that rooting is the answer for phone issues, it is not.
Rooting is for advanced users who want the extra access to explore the power of android.
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I don't understand why everyone seems to be pushing the USB JIG, it's like there are people making and selling them here or something.
@BrokenPixel, H or H+ doesn't drop to 3G as fast, if your Telco doesn't support Fast Dormancy, or you have Fast Dormancy disabled.
I like Blackberries, it is lacking as a end-user smartphone, however for companies, I still like the privacy with point to point encryption. Android does not have that unless you purchase a 3rd party application which means both parties have to have it as well. Again, it really depends on what you are using the phone for. I still recommend using the right tools for the right job.
@Gustopher, calling Blackberries a "second cousin of a minor demon..." is like calling a screwdriver the bane of our existence, or a hammer "the killer of thumbs..."
peachpuff is correct, instead of rooting your phone, perhaps you should try changing the modem to something else instead, try KH3, KG6, KF4, KE4. Perhaps in the mentioned order. It really covers most regions, since we don't know where you are at!
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I don't understand why everyone seems to be pushing the USB JIG, it's like there are people making and selling them here or something.
@BrokenPixel, H or H+ doesn't drop to 3G as fast, if your Telco doesn't support Fast Dormancy, or you have Fast Dormancy disabled.
I like Blackberries, it is lacking as a end-user smartphone, however for companies, I still like the privacy with point to point encryption. Android does not have that unless you purchase a 3rd party application which means both parties have to have it as well. Again, it really depends on what you are using the phone for. I still recommend using the right tools for the right job.
@Gustopher, calling Blackberries a "second cousin of a minor demon..." is like calling a screwdriver the bane of our existence, or a hammer "the killer of thumbs..."
peachpuff is correct, instead of rooting your phone, perhaps you should try changing the modem to something else instead, try KH3, KG6, KF4, KE4. Perhaps in the mentioned order. It really covers most regions, since we don't know where you are at!
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Thank you for actually being informative.
I am in Canada by the way(Saskatchewan) and i am running on the Sasktel network(Bell essentially)
I always thought i had to root in order to install something different then KG2?
i am not sure what my network supports, but i have NEVER seen 3g since the day i bought it.
i have turned off some of the recommended things to save battery life, it seems to be helping, we will see what i get
If your problems are related to your settings, flashing newer firmware (KG5 for example, works fine with me) will only really help if you do a complete wipe/factory reset. See the guides for that.
That would be done best by rooting with CF-root, going into CWM-recovery, doing a backup there, do all "wipes", reboot straight into download mode and flash the fresh firmware via Odin. The guides are all there.
Just make sure to play with some settings like gsm/wcdma in your network settings first.
5hrs use?
Your blackberry gave much better battery?
Sorry, but your talking absolute ****e!
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5hrs use?
Your blackberry gave much better battery?
Sorry, but your talking absolute ****e!
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Have you never heard of BB's? He came from a Curve..basically a glorified pager. He could probably go 3 days on that thing with a single charge. Kind of like going from a Commodore 64 to a high end laptop.
One thing I haven't heard mentioned about rooting is the fact with root you can install Titanium Backup..and with the Pro version..freeze apps (instead of deleting) which allows you to fiddle with perhaps some rogue apps that are draining your battery.
As usual with most Androids..make sure you don't have FB or Twitter syncing crazily (and if you're running multiple tweet or FB programs..be sure they aren't syncing as well). I'm not familiar with Touchwiz..but if they have their own "social networking" apps that you don't use (and you use the actual apps themselves instead) be sure to check those and make sure they arent sync'ing either (and better yet freeze them with TiBu).
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5hrs use?
Your blackberry gave much better battery?
Sorry, but your talking absolute ****e!
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yes i am lying to your face in order to get you to help me fix my phone.....:facepalm
A. i get FIVE HOURS with moderate use on my current I9100
B. i ad a BB curve 8330 i would get 14-16 hours moderate use.
so no, i am not talking "****e"

A good switch?

I've been on the G2x since about when it came out (horrible decision...) I've made that phone mostly usable to me but because of nVidia, the devs are always going to be stuck with no drivers for Tegra.
I see I can get the Amaze for free right now at T-Mo. Is it worth it? I know it doesn't have ICS yet but I assume that's coming (there's a certain update to ICS exchange support that makes it a very important update for me so I can get my work email)
Battery life on the G2x has always been pretty miserable for me too. I got that phone way too early and there wasn't enough people using it to really research it at the time. I'm hoping to avoid that mistake with whatever my next phone is.
1- The Amaze does have ICS, in fact, you wont find a GB Rom in the front page of development
2- Amaze battery Life is amazing for me
3- gdfgsdgrgregesrgersgsg??!?!?!
4-Search before posting?
5- a squirrel??
The Amaze does have ICS with Sense 3.6
The phone might look free but they will charge you the extra $15-$20 a month on your bill for the phone.
Don't get me wrong, this is a great phone and since we got the ICS leak its been even better. But with other phones releasing around the corner it might be a wise choice to wait for different options. But I'm not saying that the new phones will be better just saying wait till you find out what you really want.
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I know about the ICS leak but that's not official yet And I love rooting my phones...but I've been using my G2x for a year so I'm quite acquainted with all my options. It will always take a while to figure out what ROMs are good for me (personally) or not on any given phone. I've been bitten by too many 'promised' official releases that never happened to never assume.
I'll do a little more research on this one but maybe I'll keep waiting. If I can make it until Google releases all their phones...
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I know about the ICS leak but that's not official yet And I love rooting my phones...but I've been using my G2x for a year so I'm quite acquainted with all my options. It will always take a while to figure out what ROMs are good for me (personally) or not on any given phone. I've been bitten by too many 'promised' official releases that never happened to never assume.
I'll do a little more research on this one but maybe I'll keep waiting. If I can make it until Google releases all their phones...
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If u are an xda/rom junky, stay away from the Amaze. The devs we have are all we've had and are all we will ever have. And the noobs are atrocious. Stay clear man.
If you're looking for a great phone for free w/ upgrade, than go for it. The phone itself is golden
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glacierguy said:
The phone itself is is golden.
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or maybe some type of polished aluminum. Nah but really its proved to be a worthy device even without a ton of dev'ing
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or maybe some type of polished aluminum. Nah but really its proved to be a worthy device even without a ton of dev'ing
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True the phone itself I can easily say is my favorite! I've owned 8 android phones. All rooted and custom rommed of course. Its sexy, great camera, great build quality, fast&stable. HUGE cons are the battery life and the dev support.
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To be honest, I think the Amaze is so-so. I've been fortunate enough to have tried quite a few phones and the Amaze hasn't done a great job standing out.
The biggest problem with this phone is that the battery life is beyond terrible - worse than any phone I've had in the past. I mainly use my phone (or any of my smartphones for that matter) to respond to business emails and texts. My phone doesn't even last half of the day without needing a full recharge.
I had a G2X and although I wasn't too fond of its build quality (especially how the screen is not completely flat), I would suggest that you stick with it. There aren't too many improvements (in my opinion) that justifies the jump.
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To be honest, I think the Amaze is so-so. I've been fortunate enough to have tried quite a few phones and the Amaze hasn't done a great job standing out.
The biggest problem with this phone is that the battery life is beyond terrible - worse than any phone I've had in the past. I mainly use my phone (or any of my smartphones for that matter) to respond to business emails and texts. My phone doesn't even last half of the day without needing a full recharge.
I had a G2X and although I wasn't too fond of its build quality (especially how the screen is not completely flat), I would suggest that you stick with it. There aren't too many improvements (in my opinion) that justifies the jump.
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Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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Crazy how on every phone some people have great battery life and some horrible.
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Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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Looking @ videos... Code for Porn
Sorry man... U threw a meatball right over the plate
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EclipzeRemix said:
Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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That's insane. I worked a 9 hour shift yesterday, sent about 5 texts , browsed Facebook, and my battery was at 6% when I got out. And I keep my screen brightness at 0% at all times
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I'm very happy that i got the Amaze when i did but back then there was little to no Dev on it,but in the past month or so since S-OFF & the ICS "leak" there's been a ton of Development for it,I'm loving SpeedROM which is blazing fast & has great battery life.I came from a Sensation(which i still have but am looking to sell),the Sensation has a shiat ton of ROMs but they're all the same basically.The Amaze has a beast of a camera,is blazing fast with both cores running & Sense 3.6 is the icing on the cake,i just can't wait for Sense 4.0.
So...In my opinion the HTC Amaze is a GREAT phone(build quality is superb).If i were to add another line I'd grab another one ;-)
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I'm very happy that i got the Amaze when i did but back then there was little to no Dev on it,but in the past month or so since S-OFF & the ICS "leak" there's been a ton of Development for it,I'm loving SpeedROM which is blazing fast & has great battery life.I came from a Sensation(which i still have but am looking to sell),the Sensation has a shiat ton of ROMs but they're all the same basically.The Amaze has a beast of a camera,is blazing fast with both cores running & Sense 3.6 is the icing on the cake,i just can't wait for Sense 4.0.
So...In my opinion the HTC Amaze is a GREAT phone(build quality is superb).If i were to add another line I'd grab another one ;-)
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I agree with everything except booming development... There are less than 10 devs and not much variety to choose from. Not to mention, they're all the same devs we had with gingerbread.
Don't get me wrong, they make solid stable roms, but quantity is not the case. Check other, global market phones dev sections
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Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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Yeah it's so weird. Some people are reporting excellent battery life and others are reporting poor battery life. If it helps, I'm using the stock ROM on 2.3.4 (HTC Sense 3.0). I'm getting a replacement this Friday since the speaker randomly pops when listening to music and using the buttons on the bottom. Hopefully the phone lasts longer than this one or else I'm going to have to get a replacement battery. If none of those fix the problem, time to fire up the old MyTouch.
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The Amaze does have ICS with Sense 3.6
The phone might look free but they will charge you the extra $15-$20 a month on your bill for the phone.
Don't get me wrong, this is a great phone and since we got the ICS leak its been even better. But with other phones releasing around the corner it might be a wise choice to wait for different options. But I'm not saying that the new phones will be better just saying wait till you find out what you really want.
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First off you are incorrect, that was a classic plan price, not value. Value is only sold online currently as SIM only service, phone and EIP are not given online.
regardless, the free Amaze is over and its back to $150
So what are you looking for? I've used an S2, Sensation, HD2, Vibrant, and Amaze within the past 18 months. Here are my pros/cons of my Amaze experience.
Pros:
Stable - few reboots
Best of breed camera
Build is solid
HTC mail app is better than some Android skins
Good form factor - big enough, but not too big
Resilient screen - seems more scratch-resistant than some others
Dedicated camera/camcorder buttons
Impressive data speeds
Cons:
Original battery started to occasionally lose sync with OS (which resulted in $8 to Carrier in exchange for backup battery)
Low Development on XDA
Light bleed from softkeys
NFC doesn't seem to work as advertised
Since getting the Amaze, my priorities have shifted from constant theming and modding to other things because of the lack of development and (until recently) impossibility of S-off. Now I've come to appreciate being able to effortlessly RMA my phone if necessary, and while waiting for ICS was occasionally difficult, Tmo anounced its availability in 5 days. I expect battery life to increase, latency to decrease with dual-core utilization, hopefully usefulness added to the NFC capability. But as mentioned before, if you need Roms enjoy your phone, look elsewhere.
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Yeah it's so weird. Some people are reporting excellent battery life and others are reporting poor battery life. If it helps, I'm using the stock ROM on 2.3.4 (HTC Sense 3.0). I'm getting a replacement this Friday since the speaker randomly pops when listening to music and using the buttons on the bottom. Hopefully the phone lasts longer than this one or else I'm going to have to get a replacement battery. If none of those fix the problem, time to fire up the old MyTouch.
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It's not that weird... Usage varies between users. Juice defender does the trick for me... If u want a long lasting battery, don't wake your phone... It's simply a battery hogging display... And that is that
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It's not that weird... Usage varies between users. Juice defender does the trick for me... If u want a long lasting battery, don't wake your phone... It's simply a battery hogging display... And that is that
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How is it not weird. Some people are talking/surfing/watching movies for hours on their phone and get hardly any battery depreciation whereas others (me included) are checking emails and texts and not even getting 6 hours of usage.
Don't wake the phone? What's the point of having a cell phone if you're not going to use it...
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How is it not weird. Some people are talking/surfing/watching movies for hours on their phone and get hardly any battery depreciation whereas others (me included) are checking emails and texts and not even getting 6 hours of usage.
Don't wake the phone? What's the point of having a cell phone if you're not going to use it...
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Lol maybe u took me the wrong way. People with great battery life use aftermarket batteries and apps like juice defender. Some of them may also exaggerate their usage. Bottom line doesn't change.
With stock OEM battery, no juice defender, AND you use your phone, you ABSOLUTELY have ****ty battery life. It's simple. Not weird.
Also, some people use more widgets than others, more sync options, notification options... This isn't rocket science
Also, tapatalk is the biggest battery hog ever.
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Htc better step their game up

Motorola aiming to upgrade all possible devices to Jelly Bean, promises to give you $100 credit if it can't
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/motorola-jelly-bean-upgrades/
That's actually pretty interesting.
Thinking about it a bit it seems to work out in Moto's favor quite a bit. They'll update their newest phones and the people who are using their older phones will have incentive to get a newer model and thus give them more money.
HTC could do something like this.
I don't know that I'd buy another motorola, don't get me wrong, I love the phones, but the locked bootloader and slowness of updates kinda kills it for me. They're probably doing this to keep business from going elsewhere due to these problems.
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Pre-emptive strikes pre iPhone & to climb back up. The RAZR Maxx needs to go multi-carrier , well really just the 3,300 mAh spec on the bar phones.
Good moves.
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Neontc said:
I don't know that I'd buy another motorola, don't get me wrong, I love the phones, but the locked bootloader and slowness of updates kinda kills it for me. They're probably doing this to keep business from going elsewhere due to these problems.
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I second that the wifes atrix i had to reflash it 4 times in one month because the hardware sucked
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Its $100 off a new handset.
Not exactly the same. If they failed to upgrade I wouldnt want to buy another phone they'll fail with
thats not exactly hard to do since they have the line in there all "new and currently selling devices..."....doesn't cover stuff sold 1yr ago...so in that case HTC could easily cover this as the ONE series as a whole should be able to get it....ie they could say it and NOT upgrade the EVO3D and not have to pay 100bux as the evo3d isn't being sold anymore brand new since its EOL at sprint...
I'd take a HTC running ICS over moto running JB any day of the week!
Can't stand the subpar display moto uses.
Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
Got stuck with a permalock bootloader on the photon and complained until I got an early upgrade to this phone. Plus they promised ics for the phone right outta the gate and peeps will be lucky to get it before 2013. I will not buy moto again, no way no how.
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Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
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He doesn't do anything for Samsung with cm
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Now that Google owns Motorola mobility things might get better....ah who am I kidding Google buys and shelves things all the time
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Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
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That's funny. I just today found out he works for Samsung. I'm SURE some of his ideas make it into their SW.
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I'm sure they just handed the source over and said fix it lmao
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Now that Google owns Motorola mobility things might get better....ah who am I kidding Google buys and shelves things all the time
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This I want to be hopeful that things will change but then I remember Google is add always good ideas just don't always follow through or it isn't time for it yet.
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HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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Rxpert said:
He doesn't do anything for Samsung with cm
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I know, they hired him for their software, i wasnt saying it was for cm, never did
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the_hustleman said:
HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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i managed 2 1/2 days mediium use and almost 3 days with light to no use, using it hardcore on 3g for hours on end i managed 5 before i started running the battery down (using phone while charging) and even now that i definitely know ive shortened the battery life i can still manage 2.75 hours non stop hardcore use on 3g, when i switch to wifi this phone becomes the terminator and refuses to die lol if only i got that kind of use on cm, but hey its a nightly and these last 2 update are very close to my normal life, pretty soon they will surpass it
the_hustleman said:
HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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Over a day with over 3 hours of screen on time which included video streaming is pretty damn impressive considering how I was using a high brightness setting and how big the screen on this phone is.
You're expecting too much without showing any understanding of why it isn't easy to get a high end phone to last all day. It has high powered components that draw more power, as well as a bigger screen than most phones on the market. What we get from it is impressive and it isn't going to dramatically improve anytime soon, unless they start to include DROID RAZR MAXX sized batteries, which I doubt will happen soon.
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Over a day with over 3 hours of screen on time which included video streaming is pretty damn impressive considering how I was using a high brightness setting and how big the screen on this phone is.
You're expecting too much without showing any understanding of why it isn't easy to get a high end phone to last all day. It has high powered components that draw more power, as well as a bigger screen than most phones on the market. What we get from it is impressive and it isn't going to dramatically improve anytime soon, unless they start to include DROID RAZR MAXX sized batteries, which I doubt will happen soon.
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I don't think i expect too much, just a battery that can last 24 hours with normal usage.
I couldn't even get 24 hours out of the raxr maxx although it came the closest.
Basically you're saying you get over a day while only using the phone for 3 hours. On a work day I'll do 4 hours just to and from work, then time during lunch and sporadic phone checks during the day and after so many hours of use, phone dies.
My galaxy s 3 had gotten me 17 hours once, but the phone was just sitting there for the most part.
I tested the standby time and just let it drain and got 3 days it of it, would have been more of i didn't send that text lol
I just want a better battery
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I don't think i expect too much, just a battery that can last 24 hours with normal usage.
I couldn't even get 24 hours out of the raxr maxx although it came the closest.
Basically you're saying you get over a day while only using the phone for 3 hours. On a work day I'll do 4 hours just to and from work, then time during lunch and sporadic phone checks during the day and after so many hours of use, phone dies.
My galaxy s 3 had gotten me 17 hours once, but the phone was just sitting there for the most part.
I tested the standby time and just let it drain and got 3 days it of it, would have been more of i didn't send that text lol
I just want a better battery
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You're getting stuck on the concept that you're only "using" your phone for as long as the screen is on. Even when the screen is off, it's doing a lot of work.
With current battery technology paired with high powered phones, you just aren't going to get that full day with a ton of screen on use that you want. We all want that. It's just not really possible right now.

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14,520 on Antutu.
Very impressive for a stock device! I guess this would certainly explain why this phone is so snappy! Without question, this is the smoothest phone I have ever owned. On the downside, I'm sure this is also why the battery life leaves a lot to be desired.
Now I'll just anxiously await the ROMs that can help save my battery. Fingers crossed...
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Nice bro.
Once they release the Unlock, then we'll be able to root and get that score higher just by deleting all of that Verizon and Amazon crap...
It's extremely unneeded, but I want to see this beast get overclocked to see how high we can get these benchmarks to go.
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14,520 on Antutu.
Very impressive for a stock device! I guess this would certainly explain why this phone is so snappy! Without question, this is the smoothest phone I have ever owned. On the downside, I'm sure this is also why the battery life leaves a lot to be desired.
Now I'll just anxiously await the ROMs that can help save my battery. Fingers crossed...
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I don't know what phone you have, but the battery is great on my DNA.
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really proves the bad build quality of LG
14,583 for me
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I don't know what phone you have, but the battery is great on my DNA.
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I'm using a Nextel i830. I must have posted in the wrong forum... Good catch.
C'mon, the device I'm using is clearly listed in the signature you copied to your own reply. That being said, you mention that the 'battery is great' on your DNA. Would you mind elaborating on how you use it? I recognize that you are a developer, and if you are actually trying to help, I'm very curious what the differences are. Maybe I have a faulty device??
- Do you keep wifi on all day?
- Same for bluetooth?
- What about data usage? 4G, etc?
- Is GPS on or off?
- Do you have any apps set to sync automatically?
- Made many phone calls?
- Watched any movies?
- Surfed the net?
Etc...
Yesterday at around 2PM (after posting the benchmark), I had to run to Comcast to swap out my modem. When I saw the line, I thought I was at the DMV. The sign said 'Now serving #24'; I had just pulled # 81. At that time, my phone had been off the charger for approximately 6 hours. I looked at my phone and had 39% battery left, so I figured what the heck, I'll watch some video and let time pass. I use a Bose BT2 headset which is typically intended for phone calls, but it works very nicely for media also, so I used it while I watched The Office on the Xfinity app. About halfway through the 3rd episode (approximately 55 minutes), the phone died completely. Barely 7 hours of use on a fully charged battery. Oh, how a replaceable battery would have come in handy during the last half hour of my wait.
When the phone is on, I absolutely LOVE IT, though I am quickly losing faith in this phone's ability to satisfy my wants and desires in an electronic device. I think I may return to the RAZR Maxx, though I would really miss having Sense... I'll give it another week; I must be missing something, right?? I sure hope so. :fingers-crossed:

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