Motorola aiming to upgrade all possible devices to Jelly Bean, promises to give you $100 credit if it can't
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/motorola-jelly-bean-upgrades/
That's actually pretty interesting.
Thinking about it a bit it seems to work out in Moto's favor quite a bit. They'll update their newest phones and the people who are using their older phones will have incentive to get a newer model and thus give them more money.
HTC could do something like this.
I don't know that I'd buy another motorola, don't get me wrong, I love the phones, but the locked bootloader and slowness of updates kinda kills it for me. They're probably doing this to keep business from going elsewhere due to these problems.
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Pre-emptive strikes pre iPhone & to climb back up. The RAZR Maxx needs to go multi-carrier , well really just the 3,300 mAh spec on the bar phones.
Good moves.
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Neontc said:
I don't know that I'd buy another motorola, don't get me wrong, I love the phones, but the locked bootloader and slowness of updates kinda kills it for me. They're probably doing this to keep business from going elsewhere due to these problems.
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I second that the wifes atrix i had to reflash it 4 times in one month because the hardware sucked
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Its $100 off a new handset.
Not exactly the same. If they failed to upgrade I wouldnt want to buy another phone they'll fail with
thats not exactly hard to do since they have the line in there all "new and currently selling devices..."....doesn't cover stuff sold 1yr ago...so in that case HTC could easily cover this as the ONE series as a whole should be able to get it....ie they could say it and NOT upgrade the EVO3D and not have to pay 100bux as the evo3d isn't being sold anymore brand new since its EOL at sprint...
I'd take a HTC running ICS over moto running JB any day of the week!
Can't stand the subpar display moto uses.
Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
Got stuck with a permalock bootloader on the photon and complained until I got an early upgrade to this phone. Plus they promised ics for the phone right outta the gate and peeps will be lucky to get it before 2013. I will not buy moto again, no way no how.
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Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
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He doesn't do anything for Samsung with cm
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Now that Google owns Motorola mobility things might get better....ah who am I kidding Google buys and shelves things all the time
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Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
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That's funny. I just today found out he works for Samsung. I'm SURE some of his ideas make it into their SW.
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I'm sure they just handed the source over and said fix it lmao
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Now that Google owns Motorola mobility things might get better....ah who am I kidding Google buys and shelves things all the time
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This I want to be hopeful that things will change but then I remember Google is add always good ideas just don't always follow through or it isn't time for it yet.
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HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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He doesn't do anything for Samsung with cm
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I know, they hired him for their software, i wasnt saying it was for cm, never did
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HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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i managed 2 1/2 days mediium use and almost 3 days with light to no use, using it hardcore on 3g for hours on end i managed 5 before i started running the battery down (using phone while charging) and even now that i definitely know ive shortened the battery life i can still manage 2.75 hours non stop hardcore use on 3g, when i switch to wifi this phone becomes the terminator and refuses to die lol if only i got that kind of use on cm, but hey its a nightly and these last 2 update are very close to my normal life, pretty soon they will surpass it
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HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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Over a day with over 3 hours of screen on time which included video streaming is pretty damn impressive considering how I was using a high brightness setting and how big the screen on this phone is.
You're expecting too much without showing any understanding of why it isn't easy to get a high end phone to last all day. It has high powered components that draw more power, as well as a bigger screen than most phones on the market. What we get from it is impressive and it isn't going to dramatically improve anytime soon, unless they start to include DROID RAZR MAXX sized batteries, which I doubt will happen soon.
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Over a day with over 3 hours of screen on time which included video streaming is pretty damn impressive considering how I was using a high brightness setting and how big the screen on this phone is.
You're expecting too much without showing any understanding of why it isn't easy to get a high end phone to last all day. It has high powered components that draw more power, as well as a bigger screen than most phones on the market. What we get from it is impressive and it isn't going to dramatically improve anytime soon, unless they start to include DROID RAZR MAXX sized batteries, which I doubt will happen soon.
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I don't think i expect too much, just a battery that can last 24 hours with normal usage.
I couldn't even get 24 hours out of the raxr maxx although it came the closest.
Basically you're saying you get over a day while only using the phone for 3 hours. On a work day I'll do 4 hours just to and from work, then time during lunch and sporadic phone checks during the day and after so many hours of use, phone dies.
My galaxy s 3 had gotten me 17 hours once, but the phone was just sitting there for the most part.
I tested the standby time and just let it drain and got 3 days it of it, would have been more of i didn't send that text lol
I just want a better battery
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I don't think i expect too much, just a battery that can last 24 hours with normal usage.
I couldn't even get 24 hours out of the raxr maxx although it came the closest.
Basically you're saying you get over a day while only using the phone for 3 hours. On a work day I'll do 4 hours just to and from work, then time during lunch and sporadic phone checks during the day and after so many hours of use, phone dies.
My galaxy s 3 had gotten me 17 hours once, but the phone was just sitting there for the most part.
I tested the standby time and just let it drain and got 3 days it of it, would have been more of i didn't send that text lol
I just want a better battery
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You're getting stuck on the concept that you're only "using" your phone for as long as the screen is on. Even when the screen is off, it's doing a lot of work.
With current battery technology paired with high powered phones, you just aren't going to get that full day with a ton of screen on use that you want. We all want that. It's just not really possible right now.
Related
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/12/motorola-droid-razr-max/
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/12/motorola-droid-razr-max/
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If its anytime soon you bet your ass i will be leveraging big red to swap us o.g. razr owners out into this new Pepsi err i mean razr max
Are you serious right now....
Man, I don't even want to look at any new phones right now! Ahhhh!
Man, Moto is pissing out a new phone every two months these days. Thats messed up.
If this phone is put out to address current razr issues as stated then we all have a right to this device at no additional charge or change in our contract. Seems like motor/Verizon are admitting guilt with this.
This better be a joke. #$%#$%@#$%%&*^%%[email protected]#[email protected]$!
"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course
The question is... did we get the RAZR to have the best and show it off to friends and to be on top of the phone game or.... did you get it cause it's a super duper cool phone that you will enjoy to use?
There will ALWAYS be a better spec'd phone out there than the one you currently have, unless you get one every three weeks or so.
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"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course
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You on the xt910 or 912 ? The GSM version doesn't support 4g and does not have the same issues as the Droid razr
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The question is... did we get the RAZR to have the best and show it off to friends and to be on top of the phone game or.... did you get it cause it's a super duper cool phone that you will enjoy to use?
There will ALWAYS be a better spec'd phone out there than the one you currently have, unless you get one every three weeks or so.
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True,...its just usually not by the same manufacturer.
I'm not having any battery issues. I haven't set up any smart actions yet and keep the screen at 100% and I get a full day with moderate use. My DX running CM7GB never came close to that. I had to carry extra batteriesif I was going anywhere after work. I couldn't even make it through a 10 hour workday without recharging. I'm very happy with the Razr. I just want to know what to do after 500 charges and I'm still under contract!
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"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course
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Re battery comments, my home and office are literally just one mile and over a hill from four bars of 4G, so I'm on strong 3G most of the time. I don't use WiFi much, dozens of emails, perhaps an hour or so of calls, numerous SMS, market updates / downloads, Angry Birds, surfing, and I can easily go from fully charged at 0600 to 30% battery at 2200.
This is perfectly acceptable for my needs, but as noted above, no 4G, and I find that WiFi draws my battery faster than idling on 3G--which seems contrary to the experience of many others. This is better than my T-Bolt, and even tho I travel a lot, I don't mind the sealed battery--I carry a couple iGo 1,540 chargers instead of a couple T-Bolt batteries when traveling.
Hopefully everyone realizes that's a Photoshop image with an article based on a story from a Verizon store employee. The same employees that normally do not know JACK SQUAT about when a phone is coming out... But either way, there's ALWAYS going to be a better phone out several months after you buy yours.
There will be newer models for sure. Why everyone is being unhappy with that ? Would you like to follow a brand like SE who still sells singlecore phones ?
Get over this bs and get used to technology if you like to follow it.
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You on the xt910 or 912 ? The GSM version doesn't support 4g and does not have the same issues as the Droid razr
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xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too
i thinkit might be The model for the china carrier
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xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too
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The xt910 doesn't have the connectivity issues we have thus causing further drain...
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xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too
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I'm using the gsm version now and the battery is as expected. I've had plenty of dual core phones this year and they all seem to have similar battery life.Compared to my last phone, a sgs2, the battery is not quite as good, but it is very close.
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Instead of releasing a new phone to piss us off, they can recall all RAZRs back to replace the battery with a more capable one (as the user shouldn't be able of replacing it himself, but it's easy to replace) and sell the new RAZRs with already the new battery.
Or damn at least Moto, make the new MAXX battery to be compatible with the "old" RAZR, so that we can replace it "losing the warranty"...
I've been on the G2x since about when it came out (horrible decision...) I've made that phone mostly usable to me but because of nVidia, the devs are always going to be stuck with no drivers for Tegra.
I see I can get the Amaze for free right now at T-Mo. Is it worth it? I know it doesn't have ICS yet but I assume that's coming (there's a certain update to ICS exchange support that makes it a very important update for me so I can get my work email)
Battery life on the G2x has always been pretty miserable for me too. I got that phone way too early and there wasn't enough people using it to really research it at the time. I'm hoping to avoid that mistake with whatever my next phone is.
1- The Amaze does have ICS, in fact, you wont find a GB Rom in the front page of development
2- Amaze battery Life is amazing for me
3- gdfgsdgrgregesrgersgsg??!?!?!
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5- a squirrel??
The Amaze does have ICS with Sense 3.6
The phone might look free but they will charge you the extra $15-$20 a month on your bill for the phone.
Don't get me wrong, this is a great phone and since we got the ICS leak its been even better. But with other phones releasing around the corner it might be a wise choice to wait for different options. But I'm not saying that the new phones will be better just saying wait till you find out what you really want.
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I know about the ICS leak but that's not official yet And I love rooting my phones...but I've been using my G2x for a year so I'm quite acquainted with all my options. It will always take a while to figure out what ROMs are good for me (personally) or not on any given phone. I've been bitten by too many 'promised' official releases that never happened to never assume.
I'll do a little more research on this one but maybe I'll keep waiting. If I can make it until Google releases all their phones...
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I know about the ICS leak but that's not official yet And I love rooting my phones...but I've been using my G2x for a year so I'm quite acquainted with all my options. It will always take a while to figure out what ROMs are good for me (personally) or not on any given phone. I've been bitten by too many 'promised' official releases that never happened to never assume.
I'll do a little more research on this one but maybe I'll keep waiting. If I can make it until Google releases all their phones...
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If u are an xda/rom junky, stay away from the Amaze. The devs we have are all we've had and are all we will ever have. And the noobs are atrocious. Stay clear man.
If you're looking for a great phone for free w/ upgrade, than go for it. The phone itself is golden
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glacierguy said:
The phone itself is is golden.
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or maybe some type of polished aluminum. Nah but really its proved to be a worthy device even without a ton of dev'ing
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or maybe some type of polished aluminum. Nah but really its proved to be a worthy device even without a ton of dev'ing
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True the phone itself I can easily say is my favorite! I've owned 8 android phones. All rooted and custom rommed of course. Its sexy, great camera, great build quality, fast&stable. HUGE cons are the battery life and the dev support.
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To be honest, I think the Amaze is so-so. I've been fortunate enough to have tried quite a few phones and the Amaze hasn't done a great job standing out.
The biggest problem with this phone is that the battery life is beyond terrible - worse than any phone I've had in the past. I mainly use my phone (or any of my smartphones for that matter) to respond to business emails and texts. My phone doesn't even last half of the day without needing a full recharge.
I had a G2X and although I wasn't too fond of its build quality (especially how the screen is not completely flat), I would suggest that you stick with it. There aren't too many improvements (in my opinion) that justifies the jump.
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To be honest, I think the Amaze is so-so. I've been fortunate enough to have tried quite a few phones and the Amaze hasn't done a great job standing out.
The biggest problem with this phone is that the battery life is beyond terrible - worse than any phone I've had in the past. I mainly use my phone (or any of my smartphones for that matter) to respond to business emails and texts. My phone doesn't even last half of the day without needing a full recharge.
I had a G2X and although I wasn't too fond of its build quality (especially how the screen is not completely flat), I would suggest that you stick with it. There aren't too many improvements (in my opinion) that justifies the jump.
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Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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Crazy how on every phone some people have great battery life and some horrible.
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EclipzeRemix said:
Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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Looking @ videos... Code for Porn
Sorry man... U threw a meatball right over the plate
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Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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That's insane. I worked a 9 hour shift yesterday, sent about 5 texts , browsed Facebook, and my battery was at 6% when I got out. And I keep my screen brightness at 0% at all times
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I'm very happy that i got the Amaze when i did but back then there was little to no Dev on it,but in the past month or so since S-OFF & the ICS "leak" there's been a ton of Development for it,I'm loving SpeedROM which is blazing fast & has great battery life.I came from a Sensation(which i still have but am looking to sell),the Sensation has a shiat ton of ROMs but they're all the same basically.The Amaze has a beast of a camera,is blazing fast with both cores running & Sense 3.6 is the icing on the cake,i just can't wait for Sense 4.0.
So...In my opinion the HTC Amaze is a GREAT phone(build quality is superb).If i were to add another line I'd grab another one ;-)
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I'm very happy that i got the Amaze when i did but back then there was little to no Dev on it,but in the past month or so since S-OFF & the ICS "leak" there's been a ton of Development for it,I'm loving SpeedROM which is blazing fast & has great battery life.I came from a Sensation(which i still have but am looking to sell),the Sensation has a shiat ton of ROMs but they're all the same basically.The Amaze has a beast of a camera,is blazing fast with both cores running & Sense 3.6 is the icing on the cake,i just can't wait for Sense 4.0.
So...In my opinion the HTC Amaze is a GREAT phone(build quality is superb).If i were to add another line I'd grab another one ;-)
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I agree with everything except booming development... There are less than 10 devs and not much variety to choose from. Not to mention, they're all the same devs we had with gingerbread.
Don't get me wrong, they make solid stable roms, but quantity is not the case. Check other, global market phones dev sections
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Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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Yeah it's so weird. Some people are reporting excellent battery life and others are reporting poor battery life. If it helps, I'm using the stock ROM on 2.3.4 (HTC Sense 3.0). I'm getting a replacement this Friday since the speaker randomly pops when listening to music and using the buttons on the bottom. Hopefully the phone lasts longer than this one or else I'm going to have to get a replacement battery. If none of those fix the problem, time to fire up the old MyTouch.
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The Amaze does have ICS with Sense 3.6
The phone might look free but they will charge you the extra $15-$20 a month on your bill for the phone.
Don't get me wrong, this is a great phone and since we got the ICS leak its been even better. But with other phones releasing around the corner it might be a wise choice to wait for different options. But I'm not saying that the new phones will be better just saying wait till you find out what you really want.
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First off you are incorrect, that was a classic plan price, not value. Value is only sold online currently as SIM only service, phone and EIP are not given online.
regardless, the free Amaze is over and its back to $150
So what are you looking for? I've used an S2, Sensation, HD2, Vibrant, and Amaze within the past 18 months. Here are my pros/cons of my Amaze experience.
Pros:
Stable - few reboots
Best of breed camera
Build is solid
HTC mail app is better than some Android skins
Good form factor - big enough, but not too big
Resilient screen - seems more scratch-resistant than some others
Dedicated camera/camcorder buttons
Impressive data speeds
Cons:
Original battery started to occasionally lose sync with OS (which resulted in $8 to Carrier in exchange for backup battery)
Low Development on XDA
Light bleed from softkeys
NFC doesn't seem to work as advertised
Since getting the Amaze, my priorities have shifted from constant theming and modding to other things because of the lack of development and (until recently) impossibility of S-off. Now I've come to appreciate being able to effortlessly RMA my phone if necessary, and while waiting for ICS was occasionally difficult, Tmo anounced its availability in 5 days. I expect battery life to increase, latency to decrease with dual-core utilization, hopefully usefulness added to the NFC capability. But as mentioned before, if you need Roms enjoy your phone, look elsewhere.
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Yeah it's so weird. Some people are reporting excellent battery life and others are reporting poor battery life. If it helps, I'm using the stock ROM on 2.3.4 (HTC Sense 3.0). I'm getting a replacement this Friday since the speaker randomly pops when listening to music and using the buttons on the bottom. Hopefully the phone lasts longer than this one or else I'm going to have to get a replacement battery. If none of those fix the problem, time to fire up the old MyTouch.
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It's not that weird... Usage varies between users. Juice defender does the trick for me... If u want a long lasting battery, don't wake your phone... It's simply a battery hogging display... And that is that
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It's not that weird... Usage varies between users. Juice defender does the trick for me... If u want a long lasting battery, don't wake your phone... It's simply a battery hogging display... And that is that
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How is it not weird. Some people are talking/surfing/watching movies for hours on their phone and get hardly any battery depreciation whereas others (me included) are checking emails and texts and not even getting 6 hours of usage.
Don't wake the phone? What's the point of having a cell phone if you're not going to use it...
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How is it not weird. Some people are talking/surfing/watching movies for hours on their phone and get hardly any battery depreciation whereas others (me included) are checking emails and texts and not even getting 6 hours of usage.
Don't wake the phone? What's the point of having a cell phone if you're not going to use it...
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Lol maybe u took me the wrong way. People with great battery life use aftermarket batteries and apps like juice defender. Some of them may also exaggerate their usage. Bottom line doesn't change.
With stock OEM battery, no juice defender, AND you use your phone, you ABSOLUTELY have ****ty battery life. It's simple. Not weird.
Also, some people use more widgets than others, more sync options, notification options... This isn't rocket science
Also, tapatalk is the biggest battery hog ever.
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14,520 on Antutu.
Very impressive for a stock device! I guess this would certainly explain why this phone is so snappy! Without question, this is the smoothest phone I have ever owned. On the downside, I'm sure this is also why the battery life leaves a lot to be desired.
Now I'll just anxiously await the ROMs that can help save my battery. Fingers crossed...
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Nice bro.
Once they release the Unlock, then we'll be able to root and get that score higher just by deleting all of that Verizon and Amazon crap...
It's extremely unneeded, but I want to see this beast get overclocked to see how high we can get these benchmarks to go.
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14,520 on Antutu.
Very impressive for a stock device! I guess this would certainly explain why this phone is so snappy! Without question, this is the smoothest phone I have ever owned. On the downside, I'm sure this is also why the battery life leaves a lot to be desired.
Now I'll just anxiously await the ROMs that can help save my battery. Fingers crossed...
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I don't know what phone you have, but the battery is great on my DNA.
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really proves the bad build quality of LG
14,583 for me
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I don't know what phone you have, but the battery is great on my DNA.
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I'm using a Nextel i830. I must have posted in the wrong forum... Good catch.
C'mon, the device I'm using is clearly listed in the signature you copied to your own reply. That being said, you mention that the 'battery is great' on your DNA. Would you mind elaborating on how you use it? I recognize that you are a developer, and if you are actually trying to help, I'm very curious what the differences are. Maybe I have a faulty device??
- Do you keep wifi on all day?
- Same for bluetooth?
- What about data usage? 4G, etc?
- Is GPS on or off?
- Do you have any apps set to sync automatically?
- Made many phone calls?
- Watched any movies?
- Surfed the net?
Etc...
Yesterday at around 2PM (after posting the benchmark), I had to run to Comcast to swap out my modem. When I saw the line, I thought I was at the DMV. The sign said 'Now serving #24'; I had just pulled # 81. At that time, my phone had been off the charger for approximately 6 hours. I looked at my phone and had 39% battery left, so I figured what the heck, I'll watch some video and let time pass. I use a Bose BT2 headset which is typically intended for phone calls, but it works very nicely for media also, so I used it while I watched The Office on the Xfinity app. About halfway through the 3rd episode (approximately 55 minutes), the phone died completely. Barely 7 hours of use on a fully charged battery. Oh, how a replaceable battery would have come in handy during the last half hour of my wait.
When the phone is on, I absolutely LOVE IT, though I am quickly losing faith in this phone's ability to satisfy my wants and desires in an electronic device. I think I may return to the RAZR Maxx, though I would really miss having Sense... I'll give it another week; I must be missing something, right?? I sure hope so. :fingers-crossed:
Ok guys, kinda help me out here... I know what i'm leaning toward to.. just looking for some of your opinions.. positive/negative the whole gambit.
I have 3 phones, HTC Sensation : HTC Amaze 4G : HTC One S.. which one would you pick.. Yes I know I'm posting this in the Amaze forum.. but I know most of you guys have played with each device. And I like the people on this forum.. so ..
[Cruzer] said:
Ok guys, kinda help me out here... I know what i'm leaning toward to.. just looking for some of your opinions.. positive/negative the whole gambit.
I have 3 phones, HTC Sensation : HTC Amaze 4G : HTC One S.. which one would you pick.. Yes I know I'm posting this in the Amaze forum.. but I know most of you guys have played with each device. And I like the people on this forum.. so ..
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I'd go for the one that has the best hardware stats so long as it also had a good & stable custom rom to use with it.
They have strengths and weaknesses. You've got Em play with Em and figure out which you prefer. No one else can make that decision I'd not choose the sensation but the other 2...Your call. The one s is faster if that's a question for you
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lorddart said:
They have strengths and weaknesses. You've got Em play with Em and figure out which you prefer. No one else can make that decision I'd not choose the sensation but the other 2...Your call. The one s is faster if that's a question for you
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Yah I know its all up to me.. Just wanted everyone's input.. but guess its just a useless thread.. figured I'd get no don't use this.. I had it and battery didn't last this long.. or there have been reports of screen dying.. or why leave Amaze is the best.. LOL.. all good.. thanks everyone for looking..
One S hands down!!
Anything you could really be told is fact sheet info. Both phones have a few quirks but nothing imo that is a deal breaker.
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Honestly in my opinion I'll keep them all
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truth be told i would probably keep the one s, but if expandable memory and battery is a thing you want than the amaze
Sensation is a piece of crap i would only keep that to play around with roms
EclipzeRemix said:
truth be told i would probably keep the one s, but if expandable memory and battery is a thing you want than the amaze
Sensation is a piece of crap i would only keep that to play around with roms
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wow.. you have almost the same device lineup as me... just don't have samsung.. I saw at the HTC One S for you made one ROM.. you planning on making more??
Thanks for eveyones input.. decided to keep 2 phones.. HTC One S and Amaze.. Use Amaze for when I go traveling.. and backup if the other fails for whatever reason... so anyone interested in an HTC sensation??? please pm and/or look in marketplace when I have time to post it up.
Good call! I would have kept the amaze if I had to choose just one since due to our amazing developers we have a very decent selection of roms. I would rather have the option of double battery life (due to removable battery) over the slight increase in speed with the one s - dedicated camera buttons and extra storage (with removable sd card isn't bad either) so the extra hardware capabilities definitely make the amaze a better device than the one s (and if you really wanted some extra speed you could always over clock faux kernel) but then again the amaze is no slow poke. Sensation is not even in the same league and selling the one s (if you don't need it) would get you considerably more money versus selling the amaze (people have the mind set "latest is greatest" which isn't always true). A true upgrade would be the one x+, Samsung s3 (if you like Samsung devices, I personally don't), or the Nexus 4 (because of aesthetics, blazing fast, the feel of a first class device in hand and of course amazing developer + Google support). Hope my analysis helped
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Hate to say it but the Amaze. The One S is HARDLY an upgrade... if at all. No extsd is a deal breaker if u enjoy music and whatnot. The camera is also better on the Amaze than the one s (I have owned both). The sensation should be the first to go, as its the worst of the 3. I would personally sell them all and buy an S3 and be done buying phones for a while.
The battery sucks on the Amaze, and it has a few minor hw quirks, but is the best of those 3
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well what sold me on the HTC One S is the weight and wifi calling.. I carry it with me all day.. ( actually carry both amaze, htc one s and the razr.. *smh*.. want to narrow down to just 2) I barely can tell its in my pocket. Not sure if thats a good or bad thing.. but damn and the battery life on it for my use was great.. I would get 10+hrs on Amaze.. and 2hr screen time..which is good.. but with the HTC One S I'm getting 17h with 3h screen time. Doing the same thing I would normally do. And I get wifi calling with sense 4.X and working BT.. if I could get that combo on amaze.. then I'd stick with the amaze.. I really like the device.. screen is WAYYYYY better on the amaze compared to the one s.. night and day.. but not one of my priorities.. need a phone more.. so made my choice.. but i'm not going anywhere.. still staying here.. hoping for a new tmobile base rom to come up with wifi calling working.
I don't know why people say battery life sucks... People just need to find the right combo. Yes wifi calling and bluetooth doesn't work on this rom but every thing else is buttery smooth with tremendous battery... Even if i try to i cant run the battery down. What does the s3 get? I assume it would be similar probably not a whole lot more though than what I am getting on my amaze
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hatlesssandman said:
I don't know why people say battery life sucks... People just need to find the right combo. Yes wifi calling and bluetooth doesn't work on this rom but every thing else is buttery smooth with tremendous battery... Even if i try to i cant run the battery down. What does the s3 get? I assume it would be similar probably not a whole lot more though than what I am getting on my amaze
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Wow.. those are some great numbers.. how you use your phone.. you prolly get 2 days from the htc one s.. I know some people are getting those numbers but the way I use my phone.. I know I won't even come close.. i'm an push email hungry, forum surfing, youtube video watching, texting crazy, chit chatting person..
hatlesssandman said:
I don't know why people say battery life sucks... People just need to find the right combo. Yes wifi calling and bluetooth doesn't work on this rom but every thing else is buttery smooth with tremendous battery... Even if i try to i cant run the battery down. What does the s3 get? I assume it would be similar probably not a whole lot more though than what I am getting on my amaze
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Those are similar to s3 numbers... but for ppl that use their phone for other things then just screen. We have a battery thread too and most ppl get 5-7 hrs of screen time with 14-16 hrs off charger... and actually do stuff like play music, text and make phone calls. For most, the amaze has a hard time getting 4 hrs of screen time. And its thinner... more sleek and lightweight... faster... no hw quirks like squeeky backcover, working wifi calling and Bluetooth, etc.
And if you wanted to run the battery down, we both know you can. I can kill mu battery in 9-10 hrs but I will have 7-8 hrs of screen time. Its also pretty to get over 1 day of battery when you count the 6-8 hrs of sleep when your phone is on standby. Lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797192
Although on stock jellybean 4.1.1 the battery isn't as good... so I stay on ics 4.0.4. Aosp 4.1.2 gets pretty good though.
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GalaxyS3Guy said:
Those are similar to s3 numbers... but for ppl that use their phone for other things then just screen. We have a battery thread too and most ppl get 5-7 hrs of screen time with 14-16 hrs off charger... and actually do stuff like play music, text and make phone calls. For most, the amaze has a hard time getting 4 hrs of screen time. And its thinner... more sleek and lightweight... faster... no hw quirks like squeeky backcover, working wifi calling and Bluetooth, etc.
And if you wanted to run the battery down, we both know you can. I can kill mu battery in 9-10 hrs but I will have 7-8 hrs of screen time. Its also pretty to get over 1 day of battery when you count the 6-8 hrs of sleep when your phone is on standby. Lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797192
Although on stock jellybean 4.1.1 the battery isn't as good... so I stay on ics 4.0.4. Aosp 4.1.2 gets pretty good though.
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Not half bad compared to the gs3
U made a good choice by keeping the amaze i have both sensation and amaze and even though the htc is heavier and has a little more defects it feels and it actually is more resistant than the sensation.... i would've actually sold both sensation and one s and with the cash buy a galaxy s3 best of the best
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Those are similar to s3 numbers... but for ppl that use their phone for other things then just screen. We have a battery thread too and most ppl get 5-7 hrs of screen time with 14-16 hrs off charger... and actually do stuff like play music, text and make phone calls. For most, the amaze has a hard time getting 4 hrs of screen time. And its thinner... more sleek and lightweight... faster... no hw quirks like squeeky backcover, working wifi calling and Bluetooth, etc.
And if you wanted to run the battery down, we both know you can. I can kill mu battery in 9-10 hrs but I will have 7-8 hrs of screen time. Its also pretty to get over 1 day of battery when you count the 6-8 hrs of sleep when your phone is on standby. Lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797192
Although on stock jellybean 4.1.1 the battery isn't as good... so I stay on ics 4.0.4. Aosp 4.1.2 gets pretty good though.
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I mean I wasn't doing any competition with the s3 but since I am on vacation and most friends that I have here are in school prepping for finals I don't get many calls and maybe do about 15 texts so I just play games and search forums, news, and Facebook. I think that's using a phone significantly, and I am not a huge fan of listening to music but if I did I would still get similar battery life as music play back isn't that battery intensive. My response to you was because you rag on the amaze battery life quite severely and that's not necessarily the case all the time. We have some decent roms now and yes I don't keep auto sync on because it isn't necessary or keep screen brightness on max for the same reason. I took the screen shot a couple of days ago because I have read quite a few posts complaining about battery life so wanted to prove that the amaze is quite capable of holding it's own on this department. I have no squeaky cover issue you speak of, no wifi problems, and bluetooth not working is due to rom... I am no businessman so I don't like wearing a bluetooth piece in my ear and the size of the amaze is just right that you don't look ridiculous holding it to your ear. Screen on doesn't mean that I am staring at a blank screen... But anyway I wouldn't use a Samsung device (unless it was a premium quality nexus device, not galaxy nexus or nexus s... As they all feel cheap including s3, only exception was the at&t s1 which felt good in the hands) but to each their own. Just saying not every one is an s3 fan o and the standby time is to show how well the phone /rom can idle which is very important too imo.
Guess sportstar is getting better battery life than me so I am not the only one
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sportsstar89 said:
Not half bad compared to the gs3
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Not bad at all... the roms have obviously came a long way
hatlesssandman said:
I mean I wasn't doing any competition with the s3 but since I am on vacation and most friends that I have here are in school prepping for finals I don't get many calls and maybe do about 15 texts so I just play games and search forums, news, and Facebook. I think that's using a phone significantly, and I am not a huge fan of listening to music but if I did I would still get similar battery life as music play back isn't that battery intensive. My response to you was because you rag on the amaze battery life quite severely and that's not necessarily the case all the time. We have some decent roms now and yes I don't keep auto sync on because it isn't necessary or keep screen brightness on max for the same reason. I took the screen shot a couple of days ago because I have read quite a few posts complaining about battery life so wanted to prove that the amaze is quite capable of holding it's own on this department. I have no squeaky cover issue you speak of, no wifi problems, and bluetooth not working is due to rom... I am no businessman so I don't like wearing a bluetooth piece in my ear and the size of the amaze is just right that you don't look ridiculous holding it to your ear. Screen on doesn't mean that I am staring at a blank screen... But anyway I wouldn't use a Samsung device (unless it was a premium quality nexus device, not galaxy nexus or nexus s... As they all feel cheap including s3, only exception was the at&t s1 which felt good in the hands) but to each their own. Just saying not every one is an s3 fan o and the standby time is to show how well the phone /rom can idle which is very important too imo.
Guess sportstar is getting better battery life than me so I am not the only one
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I rag the Amaze battery life soley because it is a notorious issue with the Amaze. There were countless threads about it. Many users left the amaze because of the battery. I'll admit that after a long while, there are roms that are better on battery life now, but I'm just speaking from my and others personal experiences. You do have wifi issues... since wifi calling doesn't work. Bluetooth is used for way more than headsets (music, gaming, etc.) and some states enforce hands free while driving so even the headsets aren't just for businessmen (I don't use them either for the record). You werw one of the lucky ones with no squeaky back cover. I had to put a piece of paper in my backcover for it to stop. There is also light bleed from the softkeys and in the flash of the camera which seems to be cheap build quality to me. You say the s3 feels cheap, others say it's lightweight. Lol The weight of a phone doesn't determine build quality is all I'm saying, and the Amaze is the heaviest phone I've held (before the note2)... but like you said, it's personal preference.
Don't forget... I DID say the Amaze was the best of the 3... I'm not completely bashing the Amaze. But I do find it kind of funny that most everyone that has went to the S3 from the Amaze can't believe how much of an upgrade it is. The community here is lucky, it doesn't have many devs, but the devs it does have made the phone workable. It's just I feel HTC screwed the pooch with the phone. Lack of support, lack of development support, and lack of QA/QC really didn't take advantage of the HW the phone has.
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Sorry for the newbie/quick question, but I'm being offered a G and I have to decide right now (within the next 3 hours more or less).
Is the bootloader unlocked? Can I install a custom rom on any G that I get to buy today? Same for root? Or is there any restriction?
Thanks!
You can do anything on here that you can do on any other phone. Boot loader can be unlocked and you can install ROMs. Enjoy it if you decide to get it
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kwanbis said:
Sorry for the newbie/quick question, but I'm being offered a G and I have to decide right now (within the next 3 hours more or less).
Is the bootloader unlocked? Can I install a custom rom on any G that I get to buy today? Same for root? Or is there any restriction?
Thanks!
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Just make sure you're actually getting the AT&T variant. It's different from the Sprint/international ones in enough ways to matter.
Otherwise, you can do just about anything you could on any other phone...or convert to an N4 if you really wanted to.
kwanbis said:
Sorry for the newbie/quick question, but I'm being offered a G and I have to decide right now (within the next 3 hours more or less).
Is the bootloader unlocked? Can I install a custom rom on any G that I get to buy today? Same for root? Or is there any restriction?
Thanks!
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I've had the LGOG for a while now and am more than satisfied. The bootloader is unlockable and there are a few custom ROMs going around like CFX, AOKP and CM10.1. Though they aren't fully functional, they're still fun to mess with. We also have a ported stock JB on here that works phenomenally well. I always end up going back to it even though I love custom ROMs. If you're a flashaholic and want all of the latest ROMs, you also have the option to convert the LGOG into a Nexus 4 and use custom ROMs from them.
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The AT&T version is the e970 right?
The only thing holding me from purchasing it is the non-removable battery.
Is there any case with extended battery specifically for it?
kwanbis said:
The AT&T version is the e970 right?
The only thing holding me from purchasing it is the non-removable battery.
Is there any case with extended battery specifically for it?
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No but the battery lasts pretty long (for me at least).
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kwanbis said:
The AT&T version is the e970 right?
The only thing holding me from purchasing it is the non-removable battery.
Is there any case with extended battery specifically for it?
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That's small potatoes. What exactly is your concern over a removable battery? That it may go bad, I'm presuming. Even then plenty of people have opened up their phones and put them back together very easily.
I honestly do not see anything out there now or that's expected to be released that this phone cannot easily keep up with.
But seriously, if a removable battery and accessories are your thing, you should probably get a phone that is more highly marketed.
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Thing is, after installing a 3200mha extended battery in my S2, I do not want to go back to the days where I would be checking the battery charge.
I want my battery to last 1.5 days at least, even if I would charge it all days at night.
All the rest, I love the OG.
Removable batteries are less important now than they used to be. A portable charger makes up for not having one.
I know them and have one of them. It is not the same by a long shot.
A case with extended battery is good enough, if done right.
I'm a heavy user, I get 4 ish hours of screen time and have about 18-20% when I put the phone down to charge at night, what more do you want? This is phenomenal battery life by today's standards.
So, how long is your day normally? I mean, you wake up at what time, and put it to sleep at what time?
Is this normal duration? Cause there are some phones where people have a lot of variation on the duration (with relative same use).
Up at 645 sleep by midnight
That is wonderful use.
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Up at 645 sleep by midnight
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Same here. Usually 2.5-3 hr screen time at about 30 +/- at the end of the night.
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Same here. Usually 2.5-3 hr screen time at about 30 +/- at the end of the night.
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I concur, the only device I've had with battery life that can rival this is the Note 2.
That is very encouraging guys.
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That is very encouraging guys.
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Had 3h10m screen on with 17 hours off charger yesterday, left WiFi on all day by accident (not connected for 10 of those hours). Background data on. 40 minutes music streaming. FB and GNow turned on. Had 13% battery left when I plugged in. Battery life is notably better than stock sgs2 from which I came.
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