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Hello,
I've had my GS II for about a week, and the battery life has been pretty stellar, except for days where I work at the office. For some reason, there, the battery drains at about 2x the rate than in other areas. A very similar thing happened with my Captivate, but the battery lasts longer with the GS II.
However, today, at around 1PM, my phone started heating up so that it was hot to the touch, and the battery drained 60% in about 1.5 hours. Something went terribly wrong. And even plugged in, it was draining faster than it could charge!
How can I find out what happened? I don't want this to happen again.
The only thing I did was listen to a podcast with BeyondPod, but I do that every day at work over lunch. So, nothing new in my utilization.
Any ideas appreciated!
Thanks,
Jon
(AT&T SG II, stock, unrooted)
May be the GPS - same experience here.
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Thanks, but GPS was not on. Neither was WiFi. Just Bluetooth. It's the same settings I have every day at work, because Tasker sets my settings automatically based on cell tower location.
What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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kletiz said:
What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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JonDeutsch said:
If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
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Edit: Just noticed he responded just before me. Lol. You can ignore my post.
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I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Was there anything else in your battery usage stats?
What about wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats?
Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
Had the same thing happen to me yesterday. I am stock rooted.
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ljwnow said:
Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
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Unfortunately, AOS often falsely reports high. Sometimes high AOS usage is fine, sometimes it's not.
I've gotten some of my best battery life with AOS at 60%.
Can't tell what happened to you without some statistics.
karth500 said:
I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Yeah, this sounds very similar to what happened to me, but with stock ROM.
Two follow-on questions:
1. If it's ROM-independent, then could it be something in the hardware that's short-circuiting? Like... the cellular chipset, or perhaps the modem firmware?
2. Can you explain what about CM 7.1 is so superior to the stock rom, which I'm finding pretty fantastic at the moment?
Thanks,
Jon
kletiz said:
No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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Unfortunately, I don't think I can go back in history, can I? It's a new day, with a new charge... and I'm imagining that the battery meters reflect today's activity, not yesterday's disaster...
Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
i never had battery drain but once in a while I do notice my phone gets hot on the back cover in between the SGS logo and the camera while I'm using it. If I put it down for a bit, it cools off. I figured it was just hot from use and I never thought anything more of it.
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Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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What make you think GS2 is any better than other Android phones in this regard? Anyone can make a mistake or two in programming and it is impossible to write bug free code.
Remember, latest Android Gingerbread OS is 2.3.7 and we are at 2.3.4. There are a lot of bug fixes (and new bugs) in each incremental release from Google alone. On top of that you have Samsung's customization code and various apps you installed.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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You still need to convince them, trust me.
Anyways..here is what I was getting at last night.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-os-what-is-it/
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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It does happen to iPhones for sure. We switched from blackberry devices to the iPhone, at work, three months ago. We had five different devices experience similar heat and battery issues. The cause is typically from apps or services that sync with online data.
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/12/motorola-droid-razr-max/
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/12/motorola-droid-razr-max/
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If its anytime soon you bet your ass i will be leveraging big red to swap us o.g. razr owners out into this new Pepsi err i mean razr max
Are you serious right now....
Man, I don't even want to look at any new phones right now! Ahhhh!
Man, Moto is pissing out a new phone every two months these days. Thats messed up.
If this phone is put out to address current razr issues as stated then we all have a right to this device at no additional charge or change in our contract. Seems like motor/Verizon are admitting guilt with this.
This better be a joke. #$%#$%@#$%%&*^%%[email protected]#[email protected]$!
"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course
The question is... did we get the RAZR to have the best and show it off to friends and to be on top of the phone game or.... did you get it cause it's a super duper cool phone that you will enjoy to use?
There will ALWAYS be a better spec'd phone out there than the one you currently have, unless you get one every three weeks or so.
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"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course
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You on the xt910 or 912 ? The GSM version doesn't support 4g and does not have the same issues as the Droid razr
opensourcefan said:
The question is... did we get the RAZR to have the best and show it off to friends and to be on top of the phone game or.... did you get it cause it's a super duper cool phone that you will enjoy to use?
There will ALWAYS be a better spec'd phone out there than the one you currently have, unless you get one every three weeks or so.
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True,...its just usually not by the same manufacturer.
I'm not having any battery issues. I haven't set up any smart actions yet and keep the screen at 100% and I get a full day with moderate use. My DX running CM7GB never came close to that. I had to carry extra batteriesif I was going anywhere after work. I couldn't even make it through a 10 hour workday without recharging. I'm very happy with the Razr. I just want to know what to do after 500 charges and I'm still under contract!
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"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course
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Re battery comments, my home and office are literally just one mile and over a hill from four bars of 4G, so I'm on strong 3G most of the time. I don't use WiFi much, dozens of emails, perhaps an hour or so of calls, numerous SMS, market updates / downloads, Angry Birds, surfing, and I can easily go from fully charged at 0600 to 30% battery at 2200.
This is perfectly acceptable for my needs, but as noted above, no 4G, and I find that WiFi draws my battery faster than idling on 3G--which seems contrary to the experience of many others. This is better than my T-Bolt, and even tho I travel a lot, I don't mind the sealed battery--I carry a couple iGo 1,540 chargers instead of a couple T-Bolt batteries when traveling.
Hopefully everyone realizes that's a Photoshop image with an article based on a story from a Verizon store employee. The same employees that normally do not know JACK SQUAT about when a phone is coming out... But either way, there's ALWAYS going to be a better phone out several months after you buy yours.
There will be newer models for sure. Why everyone is being unhappy with that ? Would you like to follow a brand like SE who still sells singlecore phones ?
Get over this bs and get used to technology if you like to follow it.
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You on the xt910 or 912 ? The GSM version doesn't support 4g and does not have the same issues as the Droid razr
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xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too
i thinkit might be The model for the china carrier
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xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too
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The xt910 doesn't have the connectivity issues we have thus causing further drain...
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xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too
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I'm using the gsm version now and the battery is as expected. I've had plenty of dual core phones this year and they all seem to have similar battery life.Compared to my last phone, a sgs2, the battery is not quite as good, but it is very close.
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Instead of releasing a new phone to piss us off, they can recall all RAZRs back to replace the battery with a more capable one (as the user shouldn't be able of replacing it himself, but it's easy to replace) and sell the new RAZRs with already the new battery.
Or damn at least Moto, make the new MAXX battery to be compatible with the "old" RAZR, so that we can replace it "losing the warranty"...
I've been on the G2x since about when it came out (horrible decision...) I've made that phone mostly usable to me but because of nVidia, the devs are always going to be stuck with no drivers for Tegra.
I see I can get the Amaze for free right now at T-Mo. Is it worth it? I know it doesn't have ICS yet but I assume that's coming (there's a certain update to ICS exchange support that makes it a very important update for me so I can get my work email)
Battery life on the G2x has always been pretty miserable for me too. I got that phone way too early and there wasn't enough people using it to really research it at the time. I'm hoping to avoid that mistake with whatever my next phone is.
1- The Amaze does have ICS, in fact, you wont find a GB Rom in the front page of development
2- Amaze battery Life is amazing for me
3- gdfgsdgrgregesrgersgsg??!?!?!
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5- a squirrel??
The Amaze does have ICS with Sense 3.6
The phone might look free but they will charge you the extra $15-$20 a month on your bill for the phone.
Don't get me wrong, this is a great phone and since we got the ICS leak its been even better. But with other phones releasing around the corner it might be a wise choice to wait for different options. But I'm not saying that the new phones will be better just saying wait till you find out what you really want.
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I know about the ICS leak but that's not official yet And I love rooting my phones...but I've been using my G2x for a year so I'm quite acquainted with all my options. It will always take a while to figure out what ROMs are good for me (personally) or not on any given phone. I've been bitten by too many 'promised' official releases that never happened to never assume.
I'll do a little more research on this one but maybe I'll keep waiting. If I can make it until Google releases all their phones...
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I know about the ICS leak but that's not official yet And I love rooting my phones...but I've been using my G2x for a year so I'm quite acquainted with all my options. It will always take a while to figure out what ROMs are good for me (personally) or not on any given phone. I've been bitten by too many 'promised' official releases that never happened to never assume.
I'll do a little more research on this one but maybe I'll keep waiting. If I can make it until Google releases all their phones...
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If u are an xda/rom junky, stay away from the Amaze. The devs we have are all we've had and are all we will ever have. And the noobs are atrocious. Stay clear man.
If you're looking for a great phone for free w/ upgrade, than go for it. The phone itself is golden
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glacierguy said:
The phone itself is is golden.
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or maybe some type of polished aluminum. Nah but really its proved to be a worthy device even without a ton of dev'ing
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or maybe some type of polished aluminum. Nah but really its proved to be a worthy device even without a ton of dev'ing
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True the phone itself I can easily say is my favorite! I've owned 8 android phones. All rooted and custom rommed of course. Its sexy, great camera, great build quality, fast&stable. HUGE cons are the battery life and the dev support.
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To be honest, I think the Amaze is so-so. I've been fortunate enough to have tried quite a few phones and the Amaze hasn't done a great job standing out.
The biggest problem with this phone is that the battery life is beyond terrible - worse than any phone I've had in the past. I mainly use my phone (or any of my smartphones for that matter) to respond to business emails and texts. My phone doesn't even last half of the day without needing a full recharge.
I had a G2X and although I wasn't too fond of its build quality (especially how the screen is not completely flat), I would suggest that you stick with it. There aren't too many improvements (in my opinion) that justifies the jump.
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To be honest, I think the Amaze is so-so. I've been fortunate enough to have tried quite a few phones and the Amaze hasn't done a great job standing out.
The biggest problem with this phone is that the battery life is beyond terrible - worse than any phone I've had in the past. I mainly use my phone (or any of my smartphones for that matter) to respond to business emails and texts. My phone doesn't even last half of the day without needing a full recharge.
I had a G2X and although I wasn't too fond of its build quality (especially how the screen is not completely flat), I would suggest that you stick with it. There aren't too many improvements (in my opinion) that justifies the jump.
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Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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Crazy how on every phone some people have great battery life and some horrible.
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Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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Looking @ videos... Code for Porn
Sorry man... U threw a meatball right over the plate
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EclipzeRemix said:
Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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That's insane. I worked a 9 hour shift yesterday, sent about 5 texts , browsed Facebook, and my battery was at 6% when I got out. And I keep my screen brightness at 0% at all times
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I'm very happy that i got the Amaze when i did but back then there was little to no Dev on it,but in the past month or so since S-OFF & the ICS "leak" there's been a ton of Development for it,I'm loving SpeedROM which is blazing fast & has great battery life.I came from a Sensation(which i still have but am looking to sell),the Sensation has a shiat ton of ROMs but they're all the same basically.The Amaze has a beast of a camera,is blazing fast with both cores running & Sense 3.6 is the icing on the cake,i just can't wait for Sense 4.0.
So...In my opinion the HTC Amaze is a GREAT phone(build quality is superb).If i were to add another line I'd grab another one ;-)
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I'm very happy that i got the Amaze when i did but back then there was little to no Dev on it,but in the past month or so since S-OFF & the ICS "leak" there's been a ton of Development for it,I'm loving SpeedROM which is blazing fast & has great battery life.I came from a Sensation(which i still have but am looking to sell),the Sensation has a shiat ton of ROMs but they're all the same basically.The Amaze has a beast of a camera,is blazing fast with both cores running & Sense 3.6 is the icing on the cake,i just can't wait for Sense 4.0.
So...In my opinion the HTC Amaze is a GREAT phone(build quality is superb).If i were to add another line I'd grab another one ;-)
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I agree with everything except booming development... There are less than 10 devs and not much variety to choose from. Not to mention, they're all the same devs we had with gingerbread.
Don't get me wrong, they make solid stable roms, but quantity is not the case. Check other, global market phones dev sections
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EclipzeRemix said:
Really?, I get 14+ hours on my rom looking at videos sending messages emails twitter instagram Pokemon on emulaters you name it, it doesn't get to 20% until night time
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Yeah it's so weird. Some people are reporting excellent battery life and others are reporting poor battery life. If it helps, I'm using the stock ROM on 2.3.4 (HTC Sense 3.0). I'm getting a replacement this Friday since the speaker randomly pops when listening to music and using the buttons on the bottom. Hopefully the phone lasts longer than this one or else I'm going to have to get a replacement battery. If none of those fix the problem, time to fire up the old MyTouch.
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The Amaze does have ICS with Sense 3.6
The phone might look free but they will charge you the extra $15-$20 a month on your bill for the phone.
Don't get me wrong, this is a great phone and since we got the ICS leak its been even better. But with other phones releasing around the corner it might be a wise choice to wait for different options. But I'm not saying that the new phones will be better just saying wait till you find out what you really want.
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First off you are incorrect, that was a classic plan price, not value. Value is only sold online currently as SIM only service, phone and EIP are not given online.
regardless, the free Amaze is over and its back to $150
So what are you looking for? I've used an S2, Sensation, HD2, Vibrant, and Amaze within the past 18 months. Here are my pros/cons of my Amaze experience.
Pros:
Stable - few reboots
Best of breed camera
Build is solid
HTC mail app is better than some Android skins
Good form factor - big enough, but not too big
Resilient screen - seems more scratch-resistant than some others
Dedicated camera/camcorder buttons
Impressive data speeds
Cons:
Original battery started to occasionally lose sync with OS (which resulted in $8 to Carrier in exchange for backup battery)
Low Development on XDA
Light bleed from softkeys
NFC doesn't seem to work as advertised
Since getting the Amaze, my priorities have shifted from constant theming and modding to other things because of the lack of development and (until recently) impossibility of S-off. Now I've come to appreciate being able to effortlessly RMA my phone if necessary, and while waiting for ICS was occasionally difficult, Tmo anounced its availability in 5 days. I expect battery life to increase, latency to decrease with dual-core utilization, hopefully usefulness added to the NFC capability. But as mentioned before, if you need Roms enjoy your phone, look elsewhere.
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Yeah it's so weird. Some people are reporting excellent battery life and others are reporting poor battery life. If it helps, I'm using the stock ROM on 2.3.4 (HTC Sense 3.0). I'm getting a replacement this Friday since the speaker randomly pops when listening to music and using the buttons on the bottom. Hopefully the phone lasts longer than this one or else I'm going to have to get a replacement battery. If none of those fix the problem, time to fire up the old MyTouch.
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It's not that weird... Usage varies between users. Juice defender does the trick for me... If u want a long lasting battery, don't wake your phone... It's simply a battery hogging display... And that is that
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It's not that weird... Usage varies between users. Juice defender does the trick for me... If u want a long lasting battery, don't wake your phone... It's simply a battery hogging display... And that is that
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How is it not weird. Some people are talking/surfing/watching movies for hours on their phone and get hardly any battery depreciation whereas others (me included) are checking emails and texts and not even getting 6 hours of usage.
Don't wake the phone? What's the point of having a cell phone if you're not going to use it...
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How is it not weird. Some people are talking/surfing/watching movies for hours on their phone and get hardly any battery depreciation whereas others (me included) are checking emails and texts and not even getting 6 hours of usage.
Don't wake the phone? What's the point of having a cell phone if you're not going to use it...
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Lol maybe u took me the wrong way. People with great battery life use aftermarket batteries and apps like juice defender. Some of them may also exaggerate their usage. Bottom line doesn't change.
With stock OEM battery, no juice defender, AND you use your phone, you ABSOLUTELY have ****ty battery life. It's simple. Not weird.
Also, some people use more widgets than others, more sync options, notification options... This isn't rocket science
Also, tapatalk is the biggest battery hog ever.
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Motorola aiming to upgrade all possible devices to Jelly Bean, promises to give you $100 credit if it can't
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/motorola-jelly-bean-upgrades/
That's actually pretty interesting.
Thinking about it a bit it seems to work out in Moto's favor quite a bit. They'll update their newest phones and the people who are using their older phones will have incentive to get a newer model and thus give them more money.
HTC could do something like this.
I don't know that I'd buy another motorola, don't get me wrong, I love the phones, but the locked bootloader and slowness of updates kinda kills it for me. They're probably doing this to keep business from going elsewhere due to these problems.
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Pre-emptive strikes pre iPhone & to climb back up. The RAZR Maxx needs to go multi-carrier , well really just the 3,300 mAh spec on the bar phones.
Good moves.
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Neontc said:
I don't know that I'd buy another motorola, don't get me wrong, I love the phones, but the locked bootloader and slowness of updates kinda kills it for me. They're probably doing this to keep business from going elsewhere due to these problems.
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I second that the wifes atrix i had to reflash it 4 times in one month because the hardware sucked
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Its $100 off a new handset.
Not exactly the same. If they failed to upgrade I wouldnt want to buy another phone they'll fail with
thats not exactly hard to do since they have the line in there all "new and currently selling devices..."....doesn't cover stuff sold 1yr ago...so in that case HTC could easily cover this as the ONE series as a whole should be able to get it....ie they could say it and NOT upgrade the EVO3D and not have to pay 100bux as the evo3d isn't being sold anymore brand new since its EOL at sprint...
I'd take a HTC running ICS over moto running JB any day of the week!
Can't stand the subpar display moto uses.
Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
Got stuck with a permalock bootloader on the photon and complained until I got an early upgrade to this phone. Plus they promised ics for the phone right outta the gate and peeps will be lucky to get it before 2013. I will not buy moto again, no way no how.
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om4 said:
Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
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He doesn't do anything for Samsung with cm
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Now that Google owns Motorola mobility things might get better....ah who am I kidding Google buys and shelves things all the time
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Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
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That's funny. I just today found out he works for Samsung. I'm SURE some of his ideas make it into their SW.
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I'm sure they just handed the source over and said fix it lmao
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Now that Google owns Motorola mobility things might get better....ah who am I kidding Google buys and shelves things all the time
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This I want to be hopeful that things will change but then I remember Google is add always good ideas just don't always follow through or it isn't time for it yet.
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HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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Rxpert said:
He doesn't do anything for Samsung with cm
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I know, they hired him for their software, i wasnt saying it was for cm, never did
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the_hustleman said:
HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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i managed 2 1/2 days mediium use and almost 3 days with light to no use, using it hardcore on 3g for hours on end i managed 5 before i started running the battery down (using phone while charging) and even now that i definitely know ive shortened the battery life i can still manage 2.75 hours non stop hardcore use on 3g, when i switch to wifi this phone becomes the terminator and refuses to die lol if only i got that kind of use on cm, but hey its a nightly and these last 2 update are very close to my normal life, pretty soon they will surpass it
the_hustleman said:
HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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Over a day with over 3 hours of screen on time which included video streaming is pretty damn impressive considering how I was using a high brightness setting and how big the screen on this phone is.
You're expecting too much without showing any understanding of why it isn't easy to get a high end phone to last all day. It has high powered components that draw more power, as well as a bigger screen than most phones on the market. What we get from it is impressive and it isn't going to dramatically improve anytime soon, unless they start to include DROID RAZR MAXX sized batteries, which I doubt will happen soon.
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Over a day with over 3 hours of screen on time which included video streaming is pretty damn impressive considering how I was using a high brightness setting and how big the screen on this phone is.
You're expecting too much without showing any understanding of why it isn't easy to get a high end phone to last all day. It has high powered components that draw more power, as well as a bigger screen than most phones on the market. What we get from it is impressive and it isn't going to dramatically improve anytime soon, unless they start to include DROID RAZR MAXX sized batteries, which I doubt will happen soon.
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I don't think i expect too much, just a battery that can last 24 hours with normal usage.
I couldn't even get 24 hours out of the raxr maxx although it came the closest.
Basically you're saying you get over a day while only using the phone for 3 hours. On a work day I'll do 4 hours just to and from work, then time during lunch and sporadic phone checks during the day and after so many hours of use, phone dies.
My galaxy s 3 had gotten me 17 hours once, but the phone was just sitting there for the most part.
I tested the standby time and just let it drain and got 3 days it of it, would have been more of i didn't send that text lol
I just want a better battery
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the_hustleman said:
I don't think i expect too much, just a battery that can last 24 hours with normal usage.
I couldn't even get 24 hours out of the raxr maxx although it came the closest.
Basically you're saying you get over a day while only using the phone for 3 hours. On a work day I'll do 4 hours just to and from work, then time during lunch and sporadic phone checks during the day and after so many hours of use, phone dies.
My galaxy s 3 had gotten me 17 hours once, but the phone was just sitting there for the most part.
I tested the standby time and just let it drain and got 3 days it of it, would have been more of i didn't send that text lol
I just want a better battery
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You're getting stuck on the concept that you're only "using" your phone for as long as the screen is on. Even when the screen is off, it's doing a lot of work.
With current battery technology paired with high powered phones, you just aren't going to get that full day with a ton of screen on use that you want. We all want that. It's just not really possible right now.
Has anybody yet attempted to compile the 4.3 Kernel from Source Provided yet (device probably use some slight overclocking and light undervolting)? This device has amazing battery life and runs great. This is coming from somebody who has had 5 qualcomm 800 processor phones and no less than 400 phones (yes Really). Most people that i see with higher end phones use facebook and some other social apps, most of the processors are sitting idle for most people. I guess marketing is good now a days. Millions of people with 600-700 dollar phones with most processor cores times at idle and have no clue.
My wife got a Note 4 and I told her not to since most people have no clue of power/price to actual use/needs on a phone. Well yesterday, we kept running into each other in the house and I kept asking her about her battery percentage until at 3pm she started charging her phone and I told her Im at 70% (while laughing). Well she just ordered a HAM2 today. Yes I know you can get a 10,000Mah brick extension for the "high" end phones but damn. I guess I am getting older and seeing behind the hoopla.
Anyways rant off, but seriously any one look at the code yet. Im downloading it now.
afbcamaro said:
Has anybody yet attempted to compile the 4.3 Kernel from Source Provided yet (device probably use some slight overclocking and light undervolting)? This device has amazing battery life and runs great. This is coming from somebody who has had 5 qualcomm 800 processor phones and no less than 400 phones (yes Really). Most people that i see with higher end phones use facebook and some other social apps, most of the processors are sitting idle for most people. I guess marketing is good now a days. Millions of people with 600-700 dollar phones with most processor cores times at idle and have no clue.
My wife got a Note 4 and I told her not to since most people have no clue of power/price to actual use/needs on a phone. Well yesterday, we kept running into each other in the house and I kept asking her about her battery percentage until at 3pm she started charging her phone and I told her Im at 70% (while laughing). Well she just ordered a HAM2 today. Yes I know you can get a 10,000Mah brick extension for the "high" end phones but damn. I guess I am getting older and seeing behind the hoopla.
Anyways rant off, but seriously any one look at the code yet. Im downloading it now.
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I use to be one of those "gotta have the latest", until I got tired of rooting, flashing (getting older). I just want to turn it on and USE it.
The mate2, WORKS. As long as the OS is stable, and none of the apps I use requires a newer OS, I'm leaving mine alone.
Coworker went from a LG G2, to a Nexus6 (since sent it back, it was "too big), we set the screen brightness to the same level, installed
the same apps on both devices, then ran them side by side. The N6 "might" have been just a hair quicker at launching apps, but NOT
for more than 2 times the price of the Mate2, not to mention the #2 thing I look for in a device (#1 being STABLE), the HUGE battery life.
His N6, would "just" make it through the day with maybe 5-6% battery left over. My mate2 might "just" make it through THREE days of
battery. The value for money, for the mate2, can't be beat.
Nobody has attempted to because 1) some people, like p51, prefer to leave the phone as is, and 2) the people who do want to modify the phone don't know how.
Supposedly there is a 5.0 update later on, but I'd prefer stock Android. But none of us on here know how to create a ROM.
I believe the rom is a pretty good and stable base. I believe that a kernel will provide the most bang for the buck. Ive ran lollipop on a couple of devices already and unfortunately im not impressed much. What they have rewritten for 5.0 is more centered on tightening up the Google ecosystem, (to make them more reliant on and integrated on google). Google is at a point where they are trying to follow in apples footsteps a bit because it makes sense for them. People have adopted one of two ecosystems and now that they are vested they can simplify and get very accurate metrics from users to sell forwards.
Anyways I may see if i can compile this thing, or i may not depending on boredom level and how bad the original code is.
yah what @scobiSTI said.. You put the piece there and the file over there and take out the 0 over there and boom I end up with a calculator program or something.
Lol let's not forget we are posting on XDA... Which is here FOR developing android for devices...
I can only comment on what people like hashcode did for the kindle fire. I'm glad that leaving well enough was not settled for. Because of development with the kindle fire I still use my first gen to this day. So I have no reason to settle for a phone that just works. Oh, one last thing... For the people commenting here. How many of you are boot loader unlocked and rooted? Just saying.
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I've been unlocked since the release of the phone and Rooted before this thread was made. then @modding.MyMind came around and gave us TWRP! love that guy still!
Iguanadon said:
I can only comment on what people like hashcode did for the kindle fire. I'm glad that leaving well enough was not settled for. Because of development with the kindle fire I still use my first gen to this day. So I have no reason to settle for a phone that just works. Oh, one last thing... For the people commenting here. How many of you are boot loader unlocked and rooted? Just saying.
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Been bootloader unlocked and rooted since the beginning of this year...and I'm loving it!!
Building the kernel isn't really necessary giving the already seen performance from this device. Could easily be done if you understand how to build from source and know a bit about C. Though typically seen with most custom kernels is a decrease in the battery life due to the more common or favorable features such as juicing up the CPU as a mere example. Plenty of tutorials on how to build from source. Once you get the hang of that you can check out other devs works on github to see what kind of patches they implemented for the purpose of learning, understanding, and applying. I personally find favor in writing scripts more than anything else, or playing around with the TWRP source.
afbcamaro said:
Has anybody yet attempted to compile the 4.3 Kernel from Source Provided yet (device probably use some slight overclocking and light undervolting)? This device has amazing battery life and runs great. This is coming from somebody who has had 5 qualcomm 800 processor phones and no less than 400 phones (yes Really). Most people that i see with higher end phones use facebook and some other social apps, most of the processors are sitting idle for most people. I guess marketing is good now a days. Millions of people with 600-700 dollar phones with most processor cores times at idle and have no clue.
My wife got a Note 4 and I told her not to since most people have no clue of power/price to actual use/needs on a phone. Well yesterday, we kept running into each other in the house and I kept asking her about her battery percentage until at 3pm she started charging her phone and I told her Im at 70% (while laughing). Well she just ordered a HAM2 today. Yes I know you can get a 10,000Mah brick extension for the "high" end phones but damn. I guess I am getting older and seeing behind the hoopla.
Anyways rant off, but seriously any one look at the code yet. Im downloading it now.
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Exactly. Tired of $100 extra month because of four lines with contracts. Bought my wife note 3 for Xmas. Found one new in box for 450 on swappa. I tend to jump manufacturers each new phone. I plan to stay in the midrange market for the foreseeable future. Only lag I've seen is a little of keyboard lag. Other than that, no bugs or issues yet. And that battery life... First time I haven't charged phone at work in months. I like that it tells me when apps are wasting battery in the background. Great way to eliminate those apps if possible. On my G2 android services was always eating battery.
Looking forward to root just for a couple of specific things. No time these days for ROM flashing.
To fix the keyboard lag, put powersavings to normal instead of smart... 5 minutes projected off battery life was worth it to be able to write faster
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To fix the keyboard lag, put powersavings to normal instead of smart... 5 minutes projected off battery life was worth it to be able to write faster
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Or use Fleksy keyboard which is a super fast tapping keyboard. It works without lag on endurance mode.
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arcadesdude said:
Or use Fleksy keyboard which is a super fast tapping keyboard. It works without lag on endurance mode.
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ok, I'll give that a try... I tried swipe and it was also laggy... will try Flesky.