Hi all
Searching but cannot locate an answer.
Can the blackberry Playbook be rooted and a Android with recovery be installed? .
Thanks
Heeter
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The Playbook has been rooted and Dingleberry was just released this afternoon. Shouldn't be long until we have an Android port.
TekMason
Awesome,
Thanks for the update.
Looks like I am going out to pick one up then.
Was only going to get one if I can get Android put in.
Thanks
Heeter
so will there be any port for playbook?
I can get hold of a Playbook in great condition for cheap, so im hoping to hell and back that I can put a fully functional Android on it within the next months!
Richdog said:
I can get hold of a Playbook in great condition for cheap, so im hoping to hell and back that I can put a fully functional Android on it within the next months!
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were you able to get a playbook?
nievz said:
were you able to get a playbook?
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Yup, and it's not bad! Will be much better though when the new 2.0 OS update is released.
Any updates on android for playbook
Please let me know
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Yup, and it's not bad! Will be much better though when the new 2.0 OS update is released.
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Swapped the Playbook for a galaxy tab 7.7, its like night and day.
I was thinking of possibly getting the Playbook. What do you suggest? The price dropped recently and the difference between the Playbook and anything close to its hardware is steep. But is it worth it?
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Hiya, just wondering if an android rom has been released yet?
any news?
I don't think you are going to see this go anywhere. Considering you can buy real Android tablets with similar specs for similar price, this is dead in the water.
The Playbook itself is just about dead in the water.
Given the recent RIM news, I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar fire sale on Playbooks as we did with the HP Touchpad. Honestly, something like this at the right price if it could run Android would be great for kids. Been looking for something for my 6 and 8 year old without breaking the bank that they can play around with during vacation road trips, etc.
Hopefully soon there will be a full port of ICS on the playbook
It is rather unlikely there will ever be a full Android port for the PB. Or possibly even another root. RIM are of course known for their secure devices. It isn't likely someone will crack the bootloader on the device to allow installing a different OS. Even rooting the current OS has become rather difficult now (to the point no one can manage it). Now almost all processes on the PB run as regular user, rather than root. The only one that's root is the web server, which only has something like 6 functions, none of them exploitable. It is renowned as the industry's most secure web server, hence it's use by RIM, seeing as security is one of their primary concerns.
AceRoom said:
I was thinking of possibly getting the Playbook. What do you suggest? The price dropped recently and the difference between the Playbook and anything close to its hardware is steep. But is it worth it?
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only few developers interested working on this blackberry playbook - android port,
you should buy galaxy tab 2 7.0 instead and cost around $390
Rotundjere said:
only few developers interested working on this blackberry playbook - android port,
you should buy galaxy tab 2 7.0 instead and cost around $390
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given that RIM has provided next to no information about how the device itself has been locked down beyond belief (improbable to breach bootloader security to flash CWM then flash rom) I doubt that there will be any luck with this working, I'll get in contact with RIM on monday and discuss unlocking the bootloader as well as the possibility to get source for PBOS2 (doubt it though as they will probably want me to sign legal wavers and agreements against using the code to "alter their product in such a way that it could be used to damage or modify the device")
I also hope PB can run Android OS...
Although there are a lot of tablet in Market, but I still like PB....
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I also hope PB can run Android OS...
Although there are a lot of tablet in Market, but I still like PB....
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well and truly a dead future for that device, I called RIM they are unwilling to provide me with the required stuff to open the device to booting android
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Honestly I think HTC is shorting us by not giving us 3.0 so the only reason I'm going to get this is we can port 3.0 to it. So what are the odds? How hard is going to be?
I guess they want more development time to set up Sense on Honeycomb and possibly to push it out sooner so people get this rather than Xoom...
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The first day we have a compatible kitchen, I'll have the port out. Can make that in 10 minutes.
I.e if they haven't switched from RUU to something new...
nex7er said:
The first day we have a compatible kitchen, I'll have the port out. Can make that in 10 minutes.
I.e if they haven't switched from RUU to something new...
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Good sir you are why im buying this device. Thank you very much
Does the digitizer make porting Honeycomb more difficult (i.e., because it's not designed for styluses)? I'm on the fence about the Flyer, but developer support would be a huge plus.
+1 for honeycomb development.
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Does the digitizer make porting Honeycomb more difficult (i.e., because it's not designed for styluses)? I'm on the fence about the Flyer, but developer support would be a huge plus.
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I feel the same way although I'm 99% sure ill get it anyway. I don't see the point in 10" tablets. If I was going to carry a bulky device, I'd sooner take my laptop as its far more useful and weighs abt the same as the 10" tablets.
Have used the Galaxy Tab for a few months now and its the form factor which makes is useful to me - will fit in your pocket if you really need a free hand.
My only other concern is performance. With the majority of honeycomb tablets sporting the Tegra 2 chipset, does this mean apps will be designed with those specs in mind? Anyone know how the flyers Qualcom CPU?
Why want to port a buggy honeycomb if around 3 months later (Juni or July) there will be a official 3.0
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Why want to port a buggy honeycomb if around 3 months later (Juni or July) there will be a official 3.0
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No offense intended, but your question comes across ass a little troll-ish. Assuming you genuinely want an answer though:
1) Because apps for 3.0 are designed for tablet form-factor. If you have used any of the 2.x (or even earlier) tablets, you will know that many apps look horrible because they are either scaled up to full screen, or only appear as a 'small box' in the middle of the screen.
2) I love XDA - the Devs here are top-notch and I never have issues running early versions of the ROMs that are cooked up by XDA devs. The releases here are always way ahead of the manufacturer releases and that's kind of the whole point of the site. It lets DEVs get familiar with new platforms so that when oficial releases come out, they can be quickly ported to the 'official' build when HTC get around to releasing it.
3) Never hold your breath waiting for manufacturers to release updates. HTC are relatively quick to release updates compared to most manufacturers, but waiting for official updates can lead to pain and disappointment.
I was wondering this as well, but more in a general sense. I got an ipad from my work for winning a contest, I played with it, and I can't stand apple crap. So I'm going to sell it, looks like I can get about $450 for it on ebay. So I wanted to take that money and get a android tablet, and I was thinking I would wait for the honeycomb tabs to come out and come down in price a little. But then I thought why do that?? Especially since i'm running gingerbread on my Evo and it runs freaking awesome!
So any worries hardware or other with buying a froyo tab and rooting it and getting a honeycomb rom later? Any min specs one should look for etc..? I know it's slightly off topic sorry, but not really sure where I should post this
Thanks!!!
Do a little research next time, it WILL be released with Honeycomb. I can't post the link cause I don't have more then 8 posts, but if you google it, HTC tweeted that it will be released with 3.0.
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Do a little research next time, it WILL be released with Honeycomb. I can't post the link cause I don't have more then 8 posts, but if you google it, HTC tweeted that it will be released with 3.0.
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WTF?? What do you mean "IT will be released with honeycomb"? What is "IT"?? exactly?
anyways that post is old I bought a gtab
http://twitter.com/htc/status/48806237156016128
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Gotcha thanks, makes more sense now, but if you read my original post you'll see that I don't have an htc tablet and that it was just a general question
But if you port it you will lose the gaming experience app forgot the real name and HTC said they are going to update 2 honeycomb
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faddys123 said:
But if you port it you will lose the gaming experience app forgot the real name and HTC said they are going to update 2 honeycomb
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Yea, but you have to pay to use OnLive. I don`t think many people are going to bother with it.
couto607 said:
Yea, but you have to pay to use OnLive. I don`t think many people are going to bother with it.
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And seems people's 3g plan can't hold the bandwidth for a few hours per month...
Hd2 desire s build xda app.
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But if you port it you will lose the gaming experience app forgot the real name and HTC said they are going to update 2 honeycomb
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didnt google say there licencing wont allow 2.x products to upgrade to honeycomb?
maxtcee said:
didnt google say there licencing wont allow 2.x products to upgrade to honeycomb?
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Unless given express permission by mr Google, and the flyer/evo tablet got the green light
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Unless given express permission by mr Google, and the flyer/evo tablet got the green light
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Yeah, now all they need is the source. Can't understand why Google would hold back the source from HTC but...
@htc
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@Geekhangover We will be offering a Honeycomb upgrade when it’s made available. What feature are you most excited about?
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Honestly I think HTC is shorting us by not giving us 3.0 so the only reason I'm going to get this is we can port 3.0 to it. So what are the odds? How hard is going to be?
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Before u spend ur money. You should know that the has no RUU released. And any system posted of the xoom that's not the WiFi version moto keeps having the links removed. And to top it all off the system dump can not be deodexed. I have even tried myself. The only version of 3.0 that can be ported is SDK and nothing works on it... T-Mobile will be releasing an honeycomb tab but know Google it will be locked too... And its not HTC's falt honeycomb will never meet sense. Google will not allow any overlays of any kind of honeycomb. That means no blur or sense...
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What do you like or not like about your G-Tablet?
For 299.99 shipped I couldn't pass it up.
Did I get a good deal? Should I have picked a different tablet?
Is there anything beside viewing angles that I should have to learn to put up with?
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What do you like or not like about your G-Tablet?
For 299.99 shipped I couldn't pass it up.
Did I get a good deal? Should I have picked a different tablet?
Is there anything beside viewing angles that I should have to learn to put up with?
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You should have spent another $100 and bought an asus. There are multiple issues that don't exist in the asus and are well worth $100
Asus got its own perks... and besides viewing angles this tablet is doing what I need. I see no other issues unless you have to have HC OS.
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You should have spent another $100 and bought an asus. There are multiple issues that don't exist in the asus and are well worth $100
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How does this help him? Buy an Asus, ipad, xoom or whatever the flavor of the week is?
The dev community and the price tag make the g tablet a win. If you were forced to run stock that's a different story.
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Where shall I start.....
Hardware accelleration is hacked at best.
Quality control is less than stellar
Viewing angles are horrid
You have about 50% chance of soft bricking your device whether you customize it or not
You have about 5% chance of hard bricking it doing the exact same thing everyone else does and they have no issue
This product is most definitely at the end of its life
The newer tablets work with the market out of the box
The newer tablet have hardware acceleration
The newer tablets have better screens
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
BTW.....most of the top devs are either moving to the asus or something like it. As well as all the top devs who haven't jumped into the tab market yet are gettting the asus or something like it. If you want to follow the dev community then buy what they are buying not what they are putting down
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Where shall I start.....
Hardware accelleration is hacked at best.
Quality control is less than stellar
Viewing angles are horrid
You have about 50% chance of soft bricking your device whether you customize it or not
You have about 5% chance of hard bricking it doing the exact same thing everyone else does and they have no issue
This product is most definitely at the end of its life
The newer tablets work with the market out of the box
The newer tablet have hardware acceleration
The newer tablets have better screens
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
BTW.....most of the top devs are either moving to the asus or something like it. As well as all the top devs who haven't jumped into the tab market yet are gettting the asus or something like it. If you want to follow the dev community then buy what they are buying not what they are putting down
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Don't forget to mention that the touchscreen itself is a pain - hardly multi-touch at all.....
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He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
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If you bought this tablet to screw around with, it's teh awesome.
All tablets are obsolete about 5 months after they're announced, let alone shipped. That doesn't make any of them any less useful. Android support from the manufactures is currently the thing that is most horrible compared to that other tablet OS - where you get an update, and - well - all of the devices are updated. Android updates? Yeah... up to each manufacturer. Good luck with your 3 - 6 month old tablet, the new OS will be on the next tablet. Welcome to Android, it's Open! And Free! Yay!
You made a bad choice if you think you did. If you're happy with your choice, you made a great choice.
If you have doubts or regrets already, and you can still return it, DO IT. Get something else. Maybe even a different OS.
I'm quite happy with mine, and I've had it nearly two weeks I'm learning a lot, and the price was right. Personally, for $400, I'd still NOT have an android tablet, but that's just me.
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Where shall I start.....
Hardware accelleration is hacked at best.
Quality control is less than stellar
Viewing angles are horrid
You have about 50% chance of soft bricking your device whether you customize it or not
You have about 5% chance of hard bricking it doing the exact same thing everyone else does and they have no issue
This product is most definitely at the end of its life
The newer tablets work with the market out of the box
The newer tablet have hardware acceleration
The newer tablets have better screens
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
BTW.....most of the top devs are either moving to the asus or something like it. As well as all the top devs who haven't jumped into the tab market yet are gettting the asus or something like it. If you want to follow the dev community then buy what they are buying not what they are putting down
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All nice...but...none of this is what the OP asked. He/She wanted to know was this a good purchase at a good price. I'm sure he/she saw other tablets on the market and shopped within budget. There's always a step up you can spring for, show me a better tablet at or under $300.00 and I'll recant.
Should I buy the BMW, why not the Mercedes.
I agree with schettj 100% btw....he just asked for opinions
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Is there anything beside viewing angles that I should have to learn to put up with?
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I believe my response answered the OP
schettj said:
If you bought this tablet to screw around with, it's teh awesome.
All tablets are obsolete about 5 months after they're announced, let alone shipped. That doesn't make any of them any less useful. Android support from the manufactures is currently the thing that is most horrible compared to that other tablet OS - where you get an update, and - well - all of the devices are updated. Android updates? Yeah... up to each manufacturer. Good luck with your 3 - 6 month old tablet, the new OS will be on the next tablet. Welcome to Android, it's Open! And Free! Yay!
You made a bad choice if you think you did. If you're happy with your choice, you made a great choice.
If you have doubts or regrets already, and you can still return it, DO IT. Get something else. Maybe even a different OS.
I'm quite happy with mine, and I've had it nearly two weeks I'm learning a lot, and the price was right. Personally, for $400, I'd still NOT have an android tablet, but that's just me.
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Well said, the technology is moving so fast all of these things are becoming obselete .
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I agree with schettj 100% btw....he just asked for opinions
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Yeah I probably need to dial it back a bit, it's all good.
As a side, where the hell can you get an Asus these days (I tried ).
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Well said, the technology is moving so fast all of these things are becoming obselete .
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There is a difference here that I don't think is recognized.
What thebadfrog says above:
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
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is a huge deal IMHO. I don't recommend anyone buy a Samsung phone because their support sucks (even Google Android devs can't stand them and hate working with them). While their hardware is great.
HTC is the best smartphone maker out there - hands down. The continued support they provide the community and their phones is second to none. Look at how many of their old phones are still getting updates? My Evo is almost a year old and is about to get Gingerbread direct from HTC (even though CM7 is out for it).
So that's another thing to look at. You don't want to drop $300 every 6 months in order to maintain support - you want to find a device made by a manufacturer that has a proven support track record - and Asus is one, Acer is another. Viewsonic is not. We're in an age where, while there is new stuff coming out daily, the existing hardware is still viable due to the community and the manufacturer support (when you pick the right one).
I think it's often overlooked.
Quality is everything to me, my Xoom does everything I need and it's stable, plus it will most likely get regular updates to issues and featurees. Still, it looks like a great tablet compared the Galaxy Tab.
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There is a difference here that I don't think is recognized.
What thebadfrog says above:
is a huge deal IMHO. I don't recommend anyone buy a Samsung phone because their support sucks (even Google Android devs can't stand them and hate working with them). While their hardware is great.
HTC is the best smartphone maker out there - hands down. The continued support they provide the community and their phones is second to none. Look at how many of their old phones are still getting updates? My Evo is almost a year old and is about to get Gingerbread direct from HTC (even though CM7 is out for it).
So that's another thing to look at. You don't want to drop $300 every 6 months in order to maintain support - you want to find a device made by a manufacturer that has a proven support track record - and Asus is one, Acer is another. Viewsonic is not. We're in an age where, while there is new stuff coming out daily, the existing hardware is still viable due to the community and the manufacturer support (when you pick the right one).
I think it's often overlooked.
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That's a good point and the reason I chucked my Captivate in favor of the HTC Inspire. I admit that I didn't realize how bad Viewsonic's support was going in, with that said, I still think this is the best choice at or under $300.00 Now if the OP wants to fork up the extra cash I say go for it, I looked for the Asus myself and may infact purchase one whenever they become available.
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Yeah I probably need to dial it back a bit, it's all good.
As a side, where the hell can you get an Asus these days (I tried ).
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Mine is on back order hopefully to be delivered next week.
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Mine is on back order hopefully to be delivered next week.
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Well that's good news. Enjoy, they're pretty much gone and many stores stopped accepting back orders.
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That's a good point and the reason I chucked my Captivate in favor of the HTC Inspire. I admit that I didn't realize how bad Viewsonic's support was going in, with that said, I still think this is the best choice at or under $300.00 Now if the OP wants to fork up the extra cash I say go for it, I looked for the Asus myself and may infact purchase one whenever they become available.
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I didn't seriously consider any tablet when they were 400 dollars or over. I would buy an Asus down the line (when it is close to obsolete) when it hits 299.99 or lower.
However I was not aware Viewsonic did not support the G-Tablet very well. Is support in this forum from developers going to dry up in the next year? If I could get year out of this tablet I would be happy. Obviously I hoping for Gingerbread. Or Honeycomb rather? I am a newbie. (can't you tell?)
Its hard to say what support is going to look like, but the older this item gets the more development its likely to lose, its the natural order of things.
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Its hard to say what support is going to look like, but the older this item gets the more development its likely to lose, its the natural order of things.
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There are different factors too.... Look at the Nexus One. Still getting updates (albeit it's Google's), but TMobile is still pushing updates for the myTouch.... The Evo is 1yr old. Others are older and still getting development from the community at-large. A company's willingness to be open to the community contributes as well....
I recall about a month and a half ago, all of the xda peeps getting together and raising a big stink against viewsonic and nvidia about not supporting our choice of tablets, I also recall them saying that they were going to continue to support the tablet from that point on.
Well...... I haven't seen much from either of them and it seems that this community is content to sit back and and get fed a load of crap from 2 companies that should have better track records for customer service than they have shown us.
What gives? are we dead in the water? Did they just say enough to appease us in hopes that we would just go away? Are we just going to sit here and keep saying to ourselves that something is "coming soon"?
First and foremost, this should not be in the development forum as it has nothing to do with development, it should be in General or Q/A.
To comment on your post, yes, we are probably **** out of luck.
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this community is content to sit back and and get fed a load of crap from 2 companies that should have better track records for customer service than they have shown us.
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It's called acceptance. I believe it's stage 5 of the grieving process.
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It's called acceptance. I believe it's stage 5 of the grieving process.
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LOL ! ! RIP GTAB
actually there may be little stink becuase some people have realized that we dont' need VS to provide us what we need. They let the 1.2 bootloader out of hte bag, then closed the bag back up, rather quickly. The 1.2 bootloader is the same bootloader that Notion Ink uses on the Adam, also produced by Malata, also with the Tegra 2 Harmony hardware, and now also with the same bootloader as the G-Tablet.
So, since we've accepted that VS is going to be the proverbial dead beat dad, we've noticed that Notion Ink is a tad more responsible. So, what dad won't provide, maybe we can get from stepdad.
It's rumored that Notion Ink is getting an official GB update, with drivers from Nvidea. All VS had to do was make it possible for G-Tablet devs to port roms from Adam (done with 1.2 bootloader) and tada, they no longer need to support the device, because they can rely on others to do it for them.
We'd like them to continue providing updates, or at least admit that we are still here, but we don't necessarily NEED them to do it anymore.
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What gives? are we dead in the water? Did they just say enough to appease us in hopes that we would just go away? Are we just going to sit here and keep saying to ourselves that something is "coming soon"?
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There are new and fresh ROMs around for the tablet. Our "community" is fairly large and crosses many forums.
are there any honeycomb roms yet?
or any gb roms that dont disable the hardware video acceleration?
lgkahn said:
are there any honeycomb roms yet?
or any gb roms that dont disable the hardware video acceleration?
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Just have a look around. Roebeet is working on a HC port. Adam evs have begun working on a port for HC, and Roe is working on fixing the bugs to make it work on the G-Tablet. It's still in Alpha versions, but has caused some pretty big waves in the community...but, video drivers are proviing to be the deal breaker there right now, too.
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are there any honeycomb roms yet?
or any gb roms that dont disable the hardware video acceleration?
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The CM7.1 nightlies are GB and have some hardware acceleration built-in now.
Sorry about posting in rom dev. I always check here first and was saddened by the lack of new items coming in.
It isn't just the software that I'm speaking of, what about all the hardware that other tablet vendors have available the docking stations actually made for their tablets, the cases and covers that fit without any modifications.
I went into a "tech" store the other day, won't mention which one, and when I explained that I already had a VS tablet the salesperson actually said.. "Well we sell real android tablets here so let me know if you want to talk about what we have in stock."
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I went into a "tech" store the other day, won't mention which one, and when I explained that I already had a VS tablet the salesperson actually said.. "Well we sell real android tablets here so let me know if you want to talk about what we have in stock."
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That sounds like a sales pitch to me. Just because some people don't realize the potential of a product, doesn't make that product extinct.
My buyer's remorse is increasing...
They had 7" Galaxy Tabs on Woot.com for $260 yesterday. I wish I knew they were going to be lowered in price so much in anticipation of the 10" version coming soon, because I would gladly have bought one of these instead...
I would take my gtab over a 7" galaxy tab anyday.
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I would take my gtab over a 7" galaxy tab anyday.
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+1
Just becuase it doesn't have the latest and greatest that a $800.00 tablet has, it does exactly what I want and I knew what I was getting into when I bought mine from WOOT.
irishrally said:
I would take my gtab over a 7" galaxy tab anyday.
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Seriously ! Samsung is just as bad as VS when it comes to support in any way. Be happy with your purchase and in a year get a transformer when the price drops to 250 and it already has a fat stack of roms to play with.
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...it does exactly what I want and I knew what I was getting into when I bought mine from WOOT.
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+1
I read about it quite a bit here prior to my purchase and knew that I'd be able to at least get it rocking a solid and clean froyo.. If I can get GB and/or HC on it eventually that's just icing on the cake for me.. (I say eventually, because I won't jump until hw vid accel is nearly 100%)
-Xith
I look forward to kalel and the ice cream sandwich future. The only thing interesting to me in honeycomb are the pinch more tablet specific apps and the new 3.1 usb compatibility.
I hate to sponsor another site but you should go check out www.slatedroid.com Roebeet is there releasing tons of roms for this beast. I don't know why you are complaining unless you paid the full 499 or whatever price these tabs normally sell for. I picked mine up for 299 and haven't looked back. OCed to 1.4 ghz brilliant corners rom is running perfectly it ran great at stock too. Im getting between 3800 and 4100 in quadrant I have yet to get below a 3800. It runs all my games fine flash 10.3 and full market access. Its exactly what I want.
as far as hardware and accessories, you'll just never get that with ANY android tablet. sure, you'll get some things from the manufacturer, like our dock, and official tablet, but there just isn't anything pushing third party vendors to make products specific to any android tablet. The main reason is that each tablet is just so different.
If we are going ot bite the bullet and insist n NOT getting an iThing, then we have ot accept that we won't have as many iAccessories or iDocks, or iCases, etc.
I bought a zune...2 of them actually, knowing that I wouldn't be able ot use any of the plethora of accessories that were made for the iPod.
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I hate to sponsor another site but you should go check out www.slatedroid.com Roebeet is there releasing tons of roms for this beast. I don't know why you are complaining unless you paid the full 499 or whatever price these tabs normally sell for. I picked mine up for 299 and haven't looked back. OCed to 1.4 ghz brilliant corners rom is running perfectly it ran great at stock too. Im getting between 3800 and 4100 in quadrant I have yet to get below a 3800. It runs all my games fine flash 10.3 and full market access. Its exactly what I want.
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No Netflix.
Well i find it Super intereting to modify and loading android onto the touch pad, but i have a asus TF, Works great, Love it.. but wondering would it be worth the hassle just to have a new toy to play with (mearly jut that reason)
i think a Bestbuy 40miles away may have a new shippment in today. but debating weather to go and buy 3 (me, mother,step dad) what your thoughts about this?
I think a better question is, can you find a Touchpad to buy? If you get one, you will definately be happy with the purchase. And if not, there are plenty of us out here that will be more than willing to take it off your hands.
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sounds good i would say yes and they is plenty of people who would take it off your hands
You should definitely buy at the PRICE at least for the hardware
yea i know the hardware veiw point im like "what for $99!!" but currently waiting to find as rumor has it.. new sale is bound to happen soon, ( as i read from many forum posts) but i think if i do I will buy it.. but i wont be heart broken if i dont...
Don't forget that if you get a TouchPad, you can also register for 50GB free storage at Box.net (you have to do it via the app on the TouchPad). Depending on what your storage habits and needs are, that might be worth taking into account.
I would say you should not buy it just so I have a better chance of getting another
Why do you need another tablet? That'd be my consideration.
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IF you can find one, buy it. Worst case someone will buy it from you if you don't like it.
Also I think Best Buy will limit you to one per customer, at least that's what one employee said his store was going to do.
well thismorning the local bb got a shipment and it was gone before i got there at 10am. Didnt think people of brownsville knew... :| but i think ill give up. Causeyeaidont need another tab, but wanted touse and play with it, moding hacking..etc. , i ill only by if i stumple on a online sale, but i now wont go out my way to buy one, good luck to all on getting a touchpad
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Why do you need another tablet? That'd be my consideration.
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one for development/hacking, one for useage. i assumed that would be obvious
I didn't see any reason not to buy it. If you can find one the are practically giving them away. I have a Xoom and love it but I can never have too many toys. Got one at Aarons rents yesterday.
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The process I went through to figure out if a TP was really a good buy was to figure out what exactly I needed it for. I just can't justify spending $400-600 on a tablet that's not going to fill an integral part of my technology needs, but $100-200 (depending on size/shipping/etc) is a reasonable amount for me, even if Android never gets ported to it.
The UI is attractive, and there are enough games and apps that I could let my 3 year old play with it while supervised and it wouldn't be the end of the world if something happened to it.
While your situation is likely different, hopefully there is a bit of insight into my personal decision making process in deciding if a TP was a good value or not.
Of course you should buy it...then flip it for 2-3x the price. Then put that money towards an iPad. Then jailbreak and hack to your heart's content and/or develop apps for a viable market.
Then sell the iPad for near full retail right before the next iteration drops and either buy the newest version or three Nook Colors for your family members.
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Of course you should buy it...then flip it for 2-3x the price. Then put that money towards an iPad. Then jailbreak and hack to your heart's content and/or develop apps for a viable market.
Then sell the iPad for near full retail right before the next iteration drops and either buy the newest version or three Nook Colors for your family members.
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lamest advice ever
especially when there's people out there that honestly want this device to use or to develop with. this is xda, not slickdeals.
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lamest advice ever
especially when there's people out there that honestly want this device to use or to develop with. this is xda, not slickdeals.
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Try reading his question more carefully
debating weather to go and buy 3 (me, mother,step dad)
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He wants to tinker around on android but he already has a transformer and you think his mother and step dad want to develop on a dead platform?
How are they going to use it? Browse the web one tab at a time? Read e-books with the broken app? Play movies on the gimped player? My guess is you don't actually have one.
My advise is not only solid but it's based on experience with all of the devices in question. But perhaps his parents are xda members
well i know they wont develop on this, i had mentioned to them its a tablet and if they wanted one they can get one (if found) for $100, i told her to look at youtube reviews about the TP, she liked and wanted one.. i wasnt one to mod, toy, develop, and since its not bad hardware. and i dont want to turn around and sell for $250 as i have seen on Craigslist.
we mainly want one due to the firesale Price of $99, but i am unablet to find one so i dont think i will get one. i am no noob when it comes to electronics and software. i wouldnt get a ios device since i dont like the feel of ios, nor apple software. android is nice love it, webos, havent really had enough time to play with it but seemed to be promising if HP let it grow more.nook color is a nice toy, but not really my flavor, now i think ill retire my TF (for modding)when TF2 comes out (Kal-El) platform, so yea
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Try reading his question more carefully
He wants to tinker around on android but he already has a transformer and you think his mother and step dad want to develop on a dead platform?
How are they going to use it? Browse the web one tab at a time? Read e-books with the broken app? Play movies on the gimped player? My guess is you don't actually have one.
My advise is not only solid but it's based on experience with all of the devices in question. But perhaps his parents are xda members
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Yeah...so he should go buy a real tablet at full price and not screw people that want to actually develop for the touchpad...
Amazon is coming out with what will probably be a cheaper android tablet soon
To the OP: I hope you find what you are looking for though from your previous comment above. You seemed to thought things through at least
Pending on buying.. worth it?
The only reason why I'm even considering buying this is because I saw that android will be able to hopefully run on this and id like to see honeycomb as well as ubuntu on this and the price has become cheaper. I know you all here have it so i was wondering your personal opinions on the device.
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Hannspad or HP Touchpad?
Hello!
Lately I have been looking at the Hannspad, but since the kernel hasn't been released I assume that the custom roms aren't as good as they could be (or am I wrong?).
So I was looking at the HP Touchpad instead, which has very nice specs (better than Hannspad? 1GB Ram & 1.2GHz snap, 10 point touch! Better price) and Android development for it is slowly starting for it, 2.3.5 is working and I hope they'll get it functional soon!
So what are your thoughts? Should I look at the Touchpad and see how development goes over the next three weeks or get the Hannspad ?
I'll buy in the beginning of next month, and I'd like to have a somewhat functional tablet, so what are your thoughts? Will the HP ever get ported so good, that it'll work 100%? How about hardware accel.
Thank you <3
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I'm really wanting to get an 80xs tablet. When will they be available?
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I'm really wanting to get an 80xs tablet. When will they be available?
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I don't know, but would say just as soon as they show up on the Archos store website, but...
Even IF they did start selling them this month Dec. 2012, in all honesty I would not even consider buying one until at least July or August of 2013. Seems to take Archos at least that long before they can get any firmware that is even remotely close to being usable for any of their devices.
I bought a 101 G9 that is just now coming up on being one year old. Since I got it, I've gone through at least half a dozen "official" firmware upgrades and just about as many "test" firmware upgrades, and then they royally screwed things up with the last 3 new firmware upgrades so I then had to...
Learn how to get an ADB USB driver installed, learn how to use ADB to install an un-official SDE, and then install an older "rooted" firmware just to get it to work again. And I NEVER had any want, need, or desire to have "rooted" firmware at all to start with!
But, if you just have to have the next new piece of garbage Archos makes... well, good luck with it. With the way things are going there are going to be plenty of FAR BETTER Android tablets available in the next few months from OTHER companies.
BTW: I knew a Steve Adams back in high school (back in 1970), but I doubt that you would be that person. In fact, doubt you even ever lived here in the U.S.A. ... but, just thought I'd mention it.
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I don't know, but would say just as soon as they show up on the Archos store website, but...
Even IF they did start selling them this month Dec. 2012, in all honesty I would not even consider buying one until at least July or August of 2013. Seems to take Archos at least that long before they can get any firmware that is even remotely close to being usable for any of their devices.
I bought a 101 G9 that is just now coming up on being one year old. Since I got it, I've gone through at least half a dozen "official" firmware upgrades and just about as many "test" firmware upgrades, and then they royally screwed things up with the last 3 new firmware upgrades so I then had to...
Learn how to get an ADB USB driver installed, learn how to use ADB to install an un-official SDE, and then install an older "rooted" firmware just to get it to work again. And I NEVER had any want, need, or desire to have "rooted" firmware at all to start with!
But, if you just have to have the next new piece of garbage Archos makes... well, good luck with it. With the way things are going there are going to be plenty of FAR BETTER Android tablets available in the next few months from OTHER companies.
BTW: I knew a Steve Adams back in high school (back in 1970), but I doubt that you would be that person. In fact, doubt you even ever lived here in the U.S.A. ... but, just thought I'd mention it.
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No sir, it is not I. I have had pretty good luck with the archos tablets I have. I really like the 8" form factor, and my 80g9 works well. And contrary to popular opinion, the archos tablets I have are really tough, my sons 80g9 has launched down a full flight of hardwood stairs, fallen off everything and still works great.
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i saw it at archos store selling for 179euro without keybord
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No sir, it is not I. I have had pretty good luck with the archos tablets I have. I really like the 8" form factor, and my 80g9 works well. And contrary to popular opinion, the archos tablets I have are really tough, my sons 80g9 has launched down a full flight of hardwood stairs, fallen off everything and still works great./QUOTE]
I did not really think you would be the same Steve Adams I knew way back, especially since most of the people in any forums about Archos products are usually somewhere in Europe instead of the U.S.A. where I am.
As far as the "hardware" side of things go, for the cheap price I can not complain much about my Archos tablets.
However, the fact that they can NOT seem to make any firmware that actually works correctly for their devices IS a problem I am not very happy about.
My first was a 101 G9, upgraded to 3.2.80 and worked fine, then had to go through a dozen upgrades ("official" plus "test" versions) before things worked again with 4.0.7 (and the WiFi was still not as good as with 3.2.80). Then, they royally trashed it with the 4.0.2x firmware releases. All of that in less than one years time! No other company puts out that many BAD firmware releases in that amount of time!
Most of the BETTER companies release one, maybe 2 new firmwares a year, but if you count up all the ones (including those I skipped) since I bought mine Archos put out about 18. That's totally ridiculous and idiotic if they actually expect to keep anyone using their products!
If you throw out older devices, there is not anything that Archos currently sells that actually does work anywhere near correctly right out of the box. Just look around the various forums and you'll see that.
As such, the Archos 80 XS is simply NOT WORTH BUYING until Archos gets firmware the really works correctly on it, and I really doubt that will be until at least six months from now (like maybe July 2013)... and then they'll screw it all up with some newer Google Android version. So, why buy it to start with? Would be better of buying a Google Nexus 7 or 10 knowing that it WILL work out of the box, and that any newer firmware will NOT screw it up (the way Archos has repeatedly done).
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steve adams said:
I'm really wanting to get an 80xs tablet. When will they be available?
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£178 from Systo
www.systo.co.uk/uncategorised/archos-gen-10-80-xs-16gb-with-cb-502250.html
Although I prefer the look off the 101 as the chipset is so much better.
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£178 from Systo
www.systo.co.uk/uncategorised/archos-gen-10-80-xs-16gb-with-cb-502250.html
Although I prefer the look off the 101 as the chipset is so much better.
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They are both not the same inside?
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