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I don't get it, if you aren't supposed to bring your sprint phone to a place where there are sprint repeaters, then what's the point of the repeater?
DarkManX4lf said:
I don't get it, if you aren't supposed to bring your sprint phone to a place where there are sprint repeaters, then what's the point of the repeater?
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True, seems counterintuitive.
Also, if you are connected to Sprint's network by any means. Sprint can see you and know you are connected as your ESN or comprable number will be your signature. I'm not sure about whether or not your employer can see. Maybe if they have access to the repeater and somehow have it set to view connections they could.
I believe the OP is talking about bringing in personal devices in general to a building. My job doesn't allow me to bring my device onto certain floors due to security reasons. Now, we all have company blackberries that are secured and allowed to use, but personal devices are a no go.
To answer your question MrJayDee, they can identify your device, but not you in general. The only way they could find you out is if you were on company WiFi, which is something I hope you AREN'T doing on any of your PERSONAL devices. The repeaters there may be for company devices, if you all have any, or just for signal in general for guests perhaps.
If I'm on the internet and doing something that causes me to think "Should I be doing this on the company intranet?", I tend to just plug my phone in and turn tethering on.
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Ah OK, it's for company phones....
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I apologize for the misleading Title, but i would really like to know if theres a method on "transferring" our current unlimited plans, onto a CDMA EVDO Modem.
Can this be done by copying all the necessary login information, and certifications, or what? To be honest i don't even know, Thats why im asking.
Also if someone knows and this is possible... What are the required EVDO Adapters. Please list some Mini-PCI cards if available as well. That is of course if this is POSSIBLE.
Why i ask: Using WMWifiRouter, or Just using internet sharing... is great, but what if i don't have my phone with me. It be a hell-of-alot nicer to just have it implemented onto a EVDO Modem if i had one.
If someone has an answer then the title of this thread would be quite useful now wouldn't it. Lol
Nope you cant do this because the Hardware device number or ESN is what authorizes you on the network and what keeps track of all the data for billing purposes. They already have many cdma modems for your computer my dell has one integrated into it but you have to assing it a seperate phone number from your phone and pay another DATA plan to use it.... Hope that Helps you out...
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Nope you cant do this because the Hardware device number or ESN is what authorizes you on the network and what keeps track of all the data for billing purposes. They already have many cdma modems for your computer my dell has one integrated into it but you have to assing it a seperate phone number from your phone and pay another DATA plan to use it.... Hope that Helps you out...
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isn't there a way to mask the ESN on a EVDO Modem, if so which one would let you (or rather how would you go about doing it). It seems like a simple task really.
In fact, if you Just go to your EPST Settings (open phone, Punch in ##PST#, Select View) all the information is there. The ESN number and what-not.
Well ESN cloning is illegal, especially for those purposes. But no, the ESN and that is hardwired to the phone. That is why you have that sticker in the back under the battery. You may be able to change it in the software, but it still won't work.
There are some people out there who can clone ESN's, but its very very illegal and will get you very very sued.
I too would be very interested in working on this. It seems to me also that if we were able to somehow clone our esn numbers to the EVDO modem it would work
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Well ESN cloning is illegal, especially for those purposes. But no, the ESN and that is hardwired to the phone. That is why you have that sticker in the back under the battery. You may be able to change it in the software, but it still won't work.
There are some people out there who can clone ESN's, but its very very illegal and will get you very very sued.
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hah its interesting to see how it kinda didn't occur to me that its very very illegal. Since its Very very illegal, its very very unlikely you'd be found out. In which case if you are, yes you could very very possibly be sued.
AH WELL, Just for the fun of it lets get started
why not use ICS or wifirouter like the rest of us?
/me is posting using ICS now...
He does use WMWifiRouter, but he wants to clone his ESN on a Sprint Computer Card to use what is meant to be a cell phone data plan as a cheap wireless laptop data plan instead of paying the $50 a month.
Hi,
I'm a long-time lurker, this is my first post. I've searched and searched for this topic, but I dont think that it's something many people are trying to do. I hope I'm posting into the right forum. I'm pretty new to any sort of Android development, so I apologize in advance for any
I have a Virgin Optimus V that I have moved over to Sprint.
The phone has been activated on Sprint and I'm capable of making phone calls and SMS, but I can't get the device to connect to Sprint's 3G data.
I figured that by installing a Sprint ROM, I would get the Sprint modem.bin and be able to "Update Profile" to provision the phone to Sprint and get data working.
no such luck. I have flashed over to the Thunder rom for Optimus S and I'm in the same place. I can call and text, but still no Data. When I try and "Update Profile" it fails and immediately restarts the device.
Any ideas as to what is left on the device that would prevent it from connecting to Sprint data?
Bump... I would also like to know the answer to this since I've been thinking of doing this as well. How were you able to get the phone on Sprint's network in the first place?
I'm operating on an MVNO Wholesale network. If I were trying to activate this device on the normal Sprint network, I could understand the problem, as you can't switch ESNs back and forth. Given my scenario, I really can't understand what could possibly be limiting me from doing this. . .
Since my OP, I've flashed the Sprint PRL to the phone with qpst. I'm running ThundeROM V1.8. I turn on Airplane Mode, then turn it off and I see the 3G data icon for just a minute and then it disappears. When I try to update the Profile now, it trys and trys and eventually times out. . . but it no longer restarts the device after failing.
I'm also prompted to install system updates. . . which seems to indicate some kind of data connection is active?
I've been trying to change the APN settings through ##DATA#, but after I make a change to the Data Profile Username (from the @mdata.vombl.com to @sprintpcs.com) the phone restarts and the OLD values are still in the phone?
I'm thinking that the ##DATA# settings are incorrect? But how can I get the changes I make to "Stick" ? Since all of these settings were reset the last time I wiped the phone, I'd imagine that the AAA Password will also need to be set?
I was under the impression that the AAA Password (and most of the ##DATA# settings would configure themselves once I program in the MSID and MDN?)
Any help or shoves in the right direction would be appreciated.
I wish I was more knowledgeable in this area to be able to help...
Sorry! I didn't mean to dismiss your issue if this is what you're trying to do, I'm interested in this also. . . but I think Sprint keeps Virgin ESN's distinctly seperate from Sprint ESN's, the classic problem with a lot of other devices people would love to use on Sprint. I just lost my personal Sprint phone and I need a new one, it would be great if I could flash this V over to it.
I'm pretty new to this stuff too . . . I think that someone with more knowledge could likely help both of us =)
Any update? I was think about doing the same thing.
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I really doubt you can get Sprint to provision the phone because I'm sure they would want to keep the meids/esns separate.
I have the same issue but have repaired my ESN. I have tried copying the actual NV items directly to the memory locations but on reboot the Virgin info repopulates. I posted in the the general section before I found this thread. I got no response in my thread yet. If mods want to move my thread into this one, I am fine with that.
If I find out anymore info, I will post in here.
I'm sure you're having an issue with the AAA and HA passwords for 3G. Unlike other phones, the Optimus V is not well-mapped (yet) for this info. A lot of people are having 3G issues when the phone updates, say from 2.1 to 2.2. VM customer support is terrible, they usually say to just pull the battery. Apparently the AAA and HA do not come back under these circumstances. If there was a way to find the HA and AAA PW like you can for others, people could fix this problem themselves.
Sorry this is no help, but I think that is the specific problem you're having based on your OP.
Now that we have s-off and root, is a solution yet to get the phone and dialer to work on the View?
I'll look into it. Have you tried clubtech's patch?
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No I haven't tried it. I will try it tomorrow before I flash my rom.
ElAguila said:
No I haven't tried it. I will try it tomorrow before I flash my rom.
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Let us know if you get it running. I'm interested in this too. Thanks.
It may turn out that you will not be able to use your present SIM card as with some dongles, the carrier may only allow data (no voice calls) through it. Test the SIM in a standard phone for calls.
It'll be interesting to see if another carrier's SIM works in it also.
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It may turn out that you will not be able to use your present SIM card as with some dongles, the carrier may only allow data (no voice calls) through it. Test the SIM in a standard phone for calls.
It'll be interesting to see if another carrier's SIM works in it also.
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There is no sim in the view. I'm not aware of any sprint device with a sim card.
Yes the sprint phones do not use a sim card. I added the lines to my build.prop file that are listed in the clubtech hack. Although the line
ro.phone.function=1
Was already there. I was able to place a call. The person could hear me and I could hear them although the volume was kind of low. I have not tested it with a bluetooth headset yet. Also keep in mind that I don't know but I believe any calls you make will count as data on your tablet data plan.
My concern was with upsetting sprint... you have your view on a regular view plan and not a phone plan right?
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T120ted said:
There is no sim in the view. I'm not aware of any sprint device with a sim card.
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Ah, OK, not actually seen one physically.
It must be a surface mount pre-programmed version locked to Sprint.. I can foresee difficulty in getting the phone to work then if it is set to data only on the network.
Edit: Just seen his success...
I'll be following this thread closely as I am on the fence for picking up a Sprint View. If phone calls are somehow enabled on this device then I will most likely pick one up.
As far as upsetting Sprint, that is the question mark. As far as I know they do not offer phone plans for the view, only data plans.
ElAguila said:
As far as upsetting Sprint, that is the question mark. As far as I know they do not offer phone plans for the view, only data plans.
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You will probably find calls suddenly being blocked at the network then once they find out users are able to make them. They will not give anything for free!
If you want to use the view to regularly make calls, I would advice looking for the thread that tells you how to do this using a market app groove ip and gtalk and gvoice. That is your best bet. While using the view as a phone is possible, DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. This means if you use it and sprint blocks your account don't blame xda nor the members here.
I'm just interested in getting rid of groove ip. I would rather have a phone function than another app running in the background. I actually went from a phone plan to straight tablet plan with groove ip. I only need phone functionality incase the school needs to call me about my kids.
With all of the files on the the tablet but hidden and the fact that the only thing needed to enable the phone was a couple of lines in the build.prop makes me wonder if maybe sprint had looked at possible phone plans. Then either decided against or possible a future offering.
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With all of the files on the the tablet but hidden and the fact that the only thing needed to enable the phone was a couple of lines in the build.prop makes me wonder if maybe sprint had looked at possible phone plans. Then either decided against or possible a future offering.
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This is what I thought, too. I think they left it out until they could come up with a good game plan for it. It's inevitable that tablets will be phones as well. The asus memo is going to help usher it in. I'm just not an att fan and that's more than likely where that one is going to hit.
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This is what I thought, too. I think they left it out until they could come up with a good game plan for it. It's inevitable that tablets will be phones as well. The asus memo is going to help usher it in. I'm just not an att fan and that's more than likely where that one is going to hit.
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I don't know, I think there is more to it than that, or HTC would have enabled phone calls on the WWE Flyer for all others to use.
I still think HTC had some problem gaining approval with this design from Google for GB and had to leave out the phone function.
Why else disable fitted hardware when it would be a bigger selling point if working? It makes no sense!
For the time being I'm using nettalk. I had to install it on my evo first then copy and send the apk to my view via dropbox. Once it was installed I was able to make "data" calls with my view with no bt headset...mic and speakers worked just fine. This was done before clubtech posted his patch.
So has anyone been able to get the phone function working with clubtech's work around?
I've done exactly what he advised, added those lines to my build.prop and even added unlimited mobile to mobile minutes to my tablet plan (yes it exists, I work at a Sprint store and added it myself) but I'm not able to dial out or receive incoming. The phone service doesn't run, ever, even when trying dial out a call.
I know the GVoice method works but I'd really like to be able to open this up without having to use extra apps.
yes theres a way. I did that on my HTC FLYER 3G. I created a full detailed document on how to do that on HTC FLYER but I used some sources on xda developer forum in order to do that. Here is the document I created, the sources with links are available at the very end of the pdf file. (one of the sources is for evo view)
http://bit.ly/r6x82t
Wanting to change my mac address on my Evo 3d from the address underneith the battery to use with my clearwire account? Is there any way to change it? I have tried the evo 4g method but cant get past the first step always get (bootloader) [ERR] Command error !!!
Does your Wimax work? If so, don't worry about it.
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My mac address on my evo is different then the address underneith the battery is there any way to repair it? I have tried the evo 4g method but cant get past the first step always get (bootloader) [ERR] Command error !!!
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i hope you have a wimax partition backup. Once you changed the MAC address (willingly or not) you made it not match with the certificated for that MAC address. WiMax and Cable Modems (on BPI1.1+) work very similar in that aspect. The only way would be to restore the mac address, and have the original Public, Private, and Root key. Which, in the phone world, there has not been any work in the extraction of these said certificates. Usually what was done in the Evo 4G (first wimax phone) a developer accidentally made a ROM with which changed just the MAC address. As of that day, it has been highly recommended to do a FULL backup of all partitions before ever even Rooting and/or S-Off'ing. I'm sorry, but unless you have that WiMax partition that you yourself made in CWM from stock, that phone will never have 4G working again. It will say "connecting... authenticating..." over and over again.
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Does your Wimax work? If so, don't worry about it.
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If his WiMax does work, then he is using someone else's 4G, and is in quite a wallop of [yet] unnoticed breaches. N2m you would prevent the original MAC user from connecting while you are connected, and vice-versa.
I guess what I should of said is that I have a clearwire modem that Im paying for and was wanting to clone that mac address to this phone is is possibile? I had a epic touch and was able to do so but got tired of the Dropping in signal problems and decided to sell it.
i am unfamiliar with what you're talking about, or why you need to clone the mac... you cant add your phones' mac into the clearwire's valid MAC list?
You have sprint service correct? If you do why would you want to do this? If you.can get clear you should be able to get 4g on your phone as well. Only way I'd see you wanting to do this is if you did not have Sprint service and had one of their wimax phones.
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sounds like he wants to use his phone as a data only device, ie no sprint service, but using clear 4g.
Instead of trying to clone your clear modem mac address, you should simply change your clearwire account to your phone's wimax mac #.
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sounds like he wants to use his phone as a data only device, ie no sprint service, but using clear 4g.
Instead of trying to clone your clear modem mac address, you should simply change your clearwire account to your phone's wimax mac #.
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ohh i get it now... ok first of all, no! if you change the MAC on your phone, your existing Root, Public, and Private certificates will NOT match. Furthermore, upon a certain set of attempted reconnects, your MAC can be banned by an automated Termination System which feeds the 4G tower. Once you change the MAC on the phone, it will NEVER authenticate into ANY 4G service EVER due to how BPI1.1+ works. And if your modem is banned, then good luck getting service from Clearwire again... Assuming you would want to go to them again seeing as how you would be sued for breach of contract as well of ToS (theft of service), which is what it is, FCC does NOT allow the cloning of any device which attains a feed for worldwideweb use, in exclusion of Router to NIC and reverse.
sooo yea... again... NO!
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however, can it be done? yes. is the information available? no. you would have to learn on getting into your phones NON-VOL settings which shouldnt be too dificult seeing as how it is linux based[may or may not need a JTAG idk if all the partitions are readable in say bootloader/fastboot]. then, you would need a JTAG cable (self-made, as I presume not many people hack your Clearwire modem as a hobby) to be able to modify the firmware in your modem, telnet into it browse to the NONVOL here as well, and extract the certificates. then its as easy as converting those certs to be just like in your phones' format. injecting them, and changint the MAC from your phone to the MAC on your clearwire modem. however, only one can be on at the same time in a specified node, only if you were like a zip code away would both be able to handshake, not even sure then, may not be allowed at all. but it COULD be done... the question is... can YOU do it? i gave you the steps already. now you just need google and ebay
*sidenote: JTAGs are not universal. oh oh... and i dont even know if there is any gui to flash your modem or even a howto... sooo . if it were a similar case in a different structure i would be all over it... but i really dont need it
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ohh i get it now... ok first of all, no! if you change the MAC on your phone, your existing Root, Public, and Private certificates will NOT match. Furthermore, upon a certain set of attempted reconnects, your MAC can be banned by an automated Termination System which feeds the 4G tower. Once you change the MAC on the phone, it will NEVER authenticate into ANY 4G service EVER due to how BPI1.1+ works. And if your modem is banned, then good luck getting service from Clearwire again... Assuming you would want to go to them again seeing as how you would be sued for breach of contract as well of ToS (theft of service), which is what it is, FCC does NOT allow the cloning of any device which attains a feed for worldwideweb use, in exclusion of Router to NIC and reverse.
sooo yea... again... NO!
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however, can it be done? yes. is the information available? no. you would have to learn on getting into your phones NON-VOL settings which shouldnt be too dificult seeing as how it is linux based[may or may not need a JTAG idk if all the partitions are readable in say bootloader/fastboot]. then, you would need a JTAG cable (self-made, as I presume not many people hack your Clearwire modem as a hobby) to be able to modify the firmware in your modem, telnet into it browse to the NONVOL here as well, and extract the certificates. then its as easy as converting those certs to be just like in your phones' format. injecting them, and changint the MAC from your phone to the MAC on your clearwire modem. however, only one can be on at the same time in a specified node, only if you were like a zip code away would both be able to handshake, not even sure then, may not be allowed at all. but it COULD be done... the question is... can YOU do it? i gave you the steps already. now you just need google and ebay
*sidenote: JTAGs are not universal. oh oh... and i dont even know if there is any gui to flash your modem or even a howto... sooo . if it were a similar case in a different structure i would be all over it... but i really dont need it
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Thats the info I was needing. And to answer othr posters questions, Im not using sprint Im on Verizon service as well as my old Epic Touch and had fully working 4g on it but Loss of service was terribile on that phone. The Epic Touch way of accomplishing my task was pretty easy but I am very familiar with modems and such that is my other hobby but I will try to do some reading up on this phone and see where it might take me thanks for a start.
I'm sorry if this wasn't in the right area, I googled up this same question and this board has it the most it seems. If its in the wrong area, please move the topic to the right area so I know where to ask next tome (or link and I'll delete this ((if possible)) and recreate).
I've been using PDANet USB Tethering for the last 3 years or so with Boost Mobile, Samsung Galaxy S3. My phone is showing severe signs of age and issues, and I'm having tons of PDANet related issues. I have unlimited 4G LTE data, but I can't use my wireless tether because the phone company detects it and stops it at 8GB where as USB tethering I've gotten 100+ GB in a single month no issues.
I'm looking for a new phone I can get, that I can somehow mask everything I do on it so that the phone company is unable to see what I'm doing on it, and won't be able to determine if I'm using my phone's wireless tethering features. I prefer a smartphone, obviously, cause I do take it with me where I go and like to have access to my apps. I'm inexperienced with installing ROMs or rooting, never figured out how with my S3 because all the topics are outdated and inaccurate and I only ended up damaging the phone trying. I've got about a week or two to find a new phone that will work with Boost Mobile. My current phone's network mode is CDMA/LTE/EVDO, just to give you an idea of what network I'd need to use for Boost (CDMA I guess?). I need 4G as well, it seems that 3G doesn't work at all at my location and I only get 1 bar of 4G LTE when I'm at home in a specific 3 inch by 3 inch space in my room that I have to tape my phone down to, but at least it works.
There's no other internet options available to me where I live, so my phone is my internet. Just to clarify before people suggest getting an internet service.
Just to be sure, I don't want anything made by Apple, but that should be obvious, posting in the Android forum.
I have found that Boost Mobile won't let me use anything but like 6 specific phones only. Two of the choices being the S7 and the S8.
I've done a search on Amazon looking for unlocked S8 phones, however the comments and reports all claim these unlocked devices are a lie and don't actually work with services they claim to, or have conflicting reports and such. I'm unable to find an Unlocked S8 for use with Boost Mobile.
I've found that I can edit the APN to add 'dun' to my type list, to bypass the data limit of Mobile Hotspot, however I am hoping that it doesn't also cause the company to start charging me hundreds of dollars a month. I want to make sure they can't actually see the traffic either, I don't want my ISP knowing what I'm doing online, because they will just turn around and sell every website I visit to third parties which is now a thing in the USA.
I'd rather Boost not know whats installed on my phone or what websites I visit.
Thread closed as per OP request.