Wanting to change my mac address on my Evo 3d from the address underneith the battery to use with my clearwire account? Is there any way to change it? I have tried the evo 4g method but cant get past the first step always get (bootloader) [ERR] Command error !!!
Does your Wimax work? If so, don't worry about it.
jbgtenn said:
My mac address on my evo is different then the address underneith the battery is there any way to repair it? I have tried the evo 4g method but cant get past the first step always get (bootloader) [ERR] Command error !!!
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i hope you have a wimax partition backup. Once you changed the MAC address (willingly or not) you made it not match with the certificated for that MAC address. WiMax and Cable Modems (on BPI1.1+) work very similar in that aspect. The only way would be to restore the mac address, and have the original Public, Private, and Root key. Which, in the phone world, there has not been any work in the extraction of these said certificates. Usually what was done in the Evo 4G (first wimax phone) a developer accidentally made a ROM with which changed just the MAC address. As of that day, it has been highly recommended to do a FULL backup of all partitions before ever even Rooting and/or S-Off'ing. I'm sorry, but unless you have that WiMax partition that you yourself made in CWM from stock, that phone will never have 4G working again. It will say "connecting... authenticating..." over and over again.
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Does your Wimax work? If so, don't worry about it.
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If his WiMax does work, then he is using someone else's 4G, and is in quite a wallop of [yet] unnoticed breaches. N2m you would prevent the original MAC user from connecting while you are connected, and vice-versa.
I guess what I should of said is that I have a clearwire modem that Im paying for and was wanting to clone that mac address to this phone is is possibile? I had a epic touch and was able to do so but got tired of the Dropping in signal problems and decided to sell it.
i am unfamiliar with what you're talking about, or why you need to clone the mac... you cant add your phones' mac into the clearwire's valid MAC list?
You have sprint service correct? If you do why would you want to do this? If you.can get clear you should be able to get 4g on your phone as well. Only way I'd see you wanting to do this is if you did not have Sprint service and had one of their wimax phones.
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sounds like he wants to use his phone as a data only device, ie no sprint service, but using clear 4g.
Instead of trying to clone your clear modem mac address, you should simply change your clearwire account to your phone's wimax mac #.
TeknoJnky said:
sounds like he wants to use his phone as a data only device, ie no sprint service, but using clear 4g.
Instead of trying to clone your clear modem mac address, you should simply change your clearwire account to your phone's wimax mac #.
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ohh i get it now... ok first of all, no! if you change the MAC on your phone, your existing Root, Public, and Private certificates will NOT match. Furthermore, upon a certain set of attempted reconnects, your MAC can be banned by an automated Termination System which feeds the 4G tower. Once you change the MAC on the phone, it will NEVER authenticate into ANY 4G service EVER due to how BPI1.1+ works. And if your modem is banned, then good luck getting service from Clearwire again... Assuming you would want to go to them again seeing as how you would be sued for breach of contract as well of ToS (theft of service), which is what it is, FCC does NOT allow the cloning of any device which attains a feed for worldwideweb use, in exclusion of Router to NIC and reverse.
sooo yea... again... NO!
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however, can it be done? yes. is the information available? no. you would have to learn on getting into your phones NON-VOL settings which shouldnt be too dificult seeing as how it is linux based[may or may not need a JTAG idk if all the partitions are readable in say bootloader/fastboot]. then, you would need a JTAG cable (self-made, as I presume not many people hack your Clearwire modem as a hobby) to be able to modify the firmware in your modem, telnet into it browse to the NONVOL here as well, and extract the certificates. then its as easy as converting those certs to be just like in your phones' format. injecting them, and changint the MAC from your phone to the MAC on your clearwire modem. however, only one can be on at the same time in a specified node, only if you were like a zip code away would both be able to handshake, not even sure then, may not be allowed at all. but it COULD be done... the question is... can YOU do it? i gave you the steps already. now you just need google and ebay
*sidenote: JTAGs are not universal. oh oh... and i dont even know if there is any gui to flash your modem or even a howto... sooo . if it were a similar case in a different structure i would be all over it... but i really dont need it
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ohh i get it now... ok first of all, no! if you change the MAC on your phone, your existing Root, Public, and Private certificates will NOT match. Furthermore, upon a certain set of attempted reconnects, your MAC can be banned by an automated Termination System which feeds the 4G tower. Once you change the MAC on the phone, it will NEVER authenticate into ANY 4G service EVER due to how BPI1.1+ works. And if your modem is banned, then good luck getting service from Clearwire again... Assuming you would want to go to them again seeing as how you would be sued for breach of contract as well of ToS (theft of service), which is what it is, FCC does NOT allow the cloning of any device which attains a feed for worldwideweb use, in exclusion of Router to NIC and reverse.
sooo yea... again... NO!
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however, can it be done? yes. is the information available? no. you would have to learn on getting into your phones NON-VOL settings which shouldnt be too dificult seeing as how it is linux based[may or may not need a JTAG idk if all the partitions are readable in say bootloader/fastboot]. then, you would need a JTAG cable (self-made, as I presume not many people hack your Clearwire modem as a hobby) to be able to modify the firmware in your modem, telnet into it browse to the NONVOL here as well, and extract the certificates. then its as easy as converting those certs to be just like in your phones' format. injecting them, and changint the MAC from your phone to the MAC on your clearwire modem. however, only one can be on at the same time in a specified node, only if you were like a zip code away would both be able to handshake, not even sure then, may not be allowed at all. but it COULD be done... the question is... can YOU do it? i gave you the steps already. now you just need google and ebay
*sidenote: JTAGs are not universal. oh oh... and i dont even know if there is any gui to flash your modem or even a howto... sooo . if it were a similar case in a different structure i would be all over it... but i really dont need it
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Thats the info I was needing. And to answer othr posters questions, Im not using sprint Im on Verizon service as well as my old Epic Touch and had fully working 4g on it but Loss of service was terribile on that phone. The Epic Touch way of accomplishing my task was pretty easy but I am very familiar with modems and such that is my other hobby but I will try to do some reading up on this phone and see where it might take me thanks for a start.
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I apologize for the misleading Title, but i would really like to know if theres a method on "transferring" our current unlimited plans, onto a CDMA EVDO Modem.
Can this be done by copying all the necessary login information, and certifications, or what? To be honest i don't even know, Thats why im asking.
Also if someone knows and this is possible... What are the required EVDO Adapters. Please list some Mini-PCI cards if available as well. That is of course if this is POSSIBLE.
Why i ask: Using WMWifiRouter, or Just using internet sharing... is great, but what if i don't have my phone with me. It be a hell-of-alot nicer to just have it implemented onto a EVDO Modem if i had one.
If someone has an answer then the title of this thread would be quite useful now wouldn't it. Lol
Nope you cant do this because the Hardware device number or ESN is what authorizes you on the network and what keeps track of all the data for billing purposes. They already have many cdma modems for your computer my dell has one integrated into it but you have to assing it a seperate phone number from your phone and pay another DATA plan to use it.... Hope that Helps you out...
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Nope you cant do this because the Hardware device number or ESN is what authorizes you on the network and what keeps track of all the data for billing purposes. They already have many cdma modems for your computer my dell has one integrated into it but you have to assing it a seperate phone number from your phone and pay another DATA plan to use it.... Hope that Helps you out...
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isn't there a way to mask the ESN on a EVDO Modem, if so which one would let you (or rather how would you go about doing it). It seems like a simple task really.
In fact, if you Just go to your EPST Settings (open phone, Punch in ##PST#, Select View) all the information is there. The ESN number and what-not.
Well ESN cloning is illegal, especially for those purposes. But no, the ESN and that is hardwired to the phone. That is why you have that sticker in the back under the battery. You may be able to change it in the software, but it still won't work.
There are some people out there who can clone ESN's, but its very very illegal and will get you very very sued.
I too would be very interested in working on this. It seems to me also that if we were able to somehow clone our esn numbers to the EVDO modem it would work
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Well ESN cloning is illegal, especially for those purposes. But no, the ESN and that is hardwired to the phone. That is why you have that sticker in the back under the battery. You may be able to change it in the software, but it still won't work.
There are some people out there who can clone ESN's, but its very very illegal and will get you very very sued.
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hah its interesting to see how it kinda didn't occur to me that its very very illegal. Since its Very very illegal, its very very unlikely you'd be found out. In which case if you are, yes you could very very possibly be sued.
AH WELL, Just for the fun of it lets get started
why not use ICS or wifirouter like the rest of us?
/me is posting using ICS now...
He does use WMWifiRouter, but he wants to clone his ESN on a Sprint Computer Card to use what is meant to be a cell phone data plan as a cheap wireless laptop data plan instead of paying the $50 a month.
Hi,
I'm a long-time lurker, this is my first post. I've searched and searched for this topic, but I dont think that it's something many people are trying to do. I hope I'm posting into the right forum. I'm pretty new to any sort of Android development, so I apologize in advance for any
I have a Virgin Optimus V that I have moved over to Sprint.
The phone has been activated on Sprint and I'm capable of making phone calls and SMS, but I can't get the device to connect to Sprint's 3G data.
I figured that by installing a Sprint ROM, I would get the Sprint modem.bin and be able to "Update Profile" to provision the phone to Sprint and get data working.
no such luck. I have flashed over to the Thunder rom for Optimus S and I'm in the same place. I can call and text, but still no Data. When I try and "Update Profile" it fails and immediately restarts the device.
Any ideas as to what is left on the device that would prevent it from connecting to Sprint data?
Bump... I would also like to know the answer to this since I've been thinking of doing this as well. How were you able to get the phone on Sprint's network in the first place?
I'm operating on an MVNO Wholesale network. If I were trying to activate this device on the normal Sprint network, I could understand the problem, as you can't switch ESNs back and forth. Given my scenario, I really can't understand what could possibly be limiting me from doing this. . .
Since my OP, I've flashed the Sprint PRL to the phone with qpst. I'm running ThundeROM V1.8. I turn on Airplane Mode, then turn it off and I see the 3G data icon for just a minute and then it disappears. When I try to update the Profile now, it trys and trys and eventually times out. . . but it no longer restarts the device after failing.
I'm also prompted to install system updates. . . which seems to indicate some kind of data connection is active?
I've been trying to change the APN settings through ##DATA#, but after I make a change to the Data Profile Username (from the @mdata.vombl.com to @sprintpcs.com) the phone restarts and the OLD values are still in the phone?
I'm thinking that the ##DATA# settings are incorrect? But how can I get the changes I make to "Stick" ? Since all of these settings were reset the last time I wiped the phone, I'd imagine that the AAA Password will also need to be set?
I was under the impression that the AAA Password (and most of the ##DATA# settings would configure themselves once I program in the MSID and MDN?)
Any help or shoves in the right direction would be appreciated.
I wish I was more knowledgeable in this area to be able to help...
Sorry! I didn't mean to dismiss your issue if this is what you're trying to do, I'm interested in this also. . . but I think Sprint keeps Virgin ESN's distinctly seperate from Sprint ESN's, the classic problem with a lot of other devices people would love to use on Sprint. I just lost my personal Sprint phone and I need a new one, it would be great if I could flash this V over to it.
I'm pretty new to this stuff too . . . I think that someone with more knowledge could likely help both of us =)
Any update? I was think about doing the same thing.
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I really doubt you can get Sprint to provision the phone because I'm sure they would want to keep the meids/esns separate.
I have the same issue but have repaired my ESN. I have tried copying the actual NV items directly to the memory locations but on reboot the Virgin info repopulates. I posted in the the general section before I found this thread. I got no response in my thread yet. If mods want to move my thread into this one, I am fine with that.
If I find out anymore info, I will post in here.
I'm sure you're having an issue with the AAA and HA passwords for 3G. Unlike other phones, the Optimus V is not well-mapped (yet) for this info. A lot of people are having 3G issues when the phone updates, say from 2.1 to 2.2. VM customer support is terrible, they usually say to just pull the battery. Apparently the AAA and HA do not come back under these circumstances. If there was a way to find the HA and AAA PW like you can for others, people could fix this problem themselves.
Sorry this is no help, but I think that is the specific problem you're having based on your OP.
Mods please delete. Thank you.
I don't get it, if you aren't supposed to bring your sprint phone to a place where there are sprint repeaters, then what's the point of the repeater?
DarkManX4lf said:
I don't get it, if you aren't supposed to bring your sprint phone to a place where there are sprint repeaters, then what's the point of the repeater?
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True, seems counterintuitive.
Also, if you are connected to Sprint's network by any means. Sprint can see you and know you are connected as your ESN or comprable number will be your signature. I'm not sure about whether or not your employer can see. Maybe if they have access to the repeater and somehow have it set to view connections they could.
I believe the OP is talking about bringing in personal devices in general to a building. My job doesn't allow me to bring my device onto certain floors due to security reasons. Now, we all have company blackberries that are secured and allowed to use, but personal devices are a no go.
To answer your question MrJayDee, they can identify your device, but not you in general. The only way they could find you out is if you were on company WiFi, which is something I hope you AREN'T doing on any of your PERSONAL devices. The repeaters there may be for company devices, if you all have any, or just for signal in general for guests perhaps.
If I'm on the internet and doing something that causes me to think "Should I be doing this on the company intranet?", I tend to just plug my phone in and turn tethering on.
Mods. Please delete the whole thread. Ty
Ah OK, it's for company phones....
Okay I have searched entire site and no information what so ever. So here goes.
I have a Motorola Photon - Rooted thanks to forums.
There is a wireless service here in Ohio with CDMA phones called Revol Wireless with a month-to-month unlimited talk/text/web plan. But their phones are trash and are allowing other CDMA phones to be flashed to their service.
Corner stores all over columbus, with cell phone vendors inside, are flashing Sprint phones with bad ESN's to Revol Wireless.
I took my phone in ti multiple stores. Revol supports the Motorola Photon but wants to charge me $40-$60 JUST for the flashing service on top of the inital $50 monthly service fee.
Now, if I wanted to spend $100+ on a new phone I would just hit craigslist for a GSM unlocked.
Does ANYONE here know HOW I can do this without having to pay some over priced carry-out?
I can provide little information to get you started on the how-to...
Here is what you will need:
Rooted Android
USB data cable
Android drivers
HW Virtual Serial Port
CDMA Workshop 2.7 or 3.x higher
I have seen there is a simple "One click process" through software called Houdinisoft but they also charge a ridiculous amount of money for even a 1 time key.
But all over the internet I see people (those who know what they're doing) doing this process manually with no fee's.
Please help me save some money. -_-
FriendlyStalker said:
Okay I have searched entire site and no information what so ever. So here goes.
I have a Motorola Photon - Rooted thanks to forums.
There is a wireless service here in Ohio with CDMA phones called Revol Wireless with a month-to-month unlimited talk/text/web plan. But their phones are trash and are allowing other CDMA phones to be flashed to their service.
Corner stores all over columbus, with cell phone vendors inside, are flashing Sprint phones with bad ESN's to Revol Wireless.
I took my phone in ti multiple stores. Revol supports the Motorola Photon but wants to charge me $40-$60 JUST for the flashing service on top of the inital $50 monthly service fee.
Now, if I wanted to spend $100+ on a new phone I would just hit craigslist for a GSM unlocked.
Does ANYONE here know HOW I can do this without having to pay some over priced carry-out?
I can provide little information to get you started on the how-to...
Here is what you will need:
Rooted Android
USB data cable
Android drivers
HW Virtual Serial Port
CDMA Workshop 2.7 or 3.x higher
I have seen there is a simple "One click process" through software called Houdinisoft but they also charge a ridiculous amount of money for even a 1 time key.
But all over the internet I see people (those who know what they're doing) doing this process manually with no fee's.
Please help me save some money. -_-
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To make the phone work on there network all you really need to do is flash their prl to your phone and have them add your esn to their network. That's all that is really necessary. You can find plenty of info on prl flashing. It may be tough to find their prl. I think if you just get your phone to roam on their network with the esn added you can *228 to update it?
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na7q said:
To make the phone work on there network all you really need to do is flash their prl to your phone and have them add your esn to their network. That's all that is really necessary. You can find plenty of info on prl flashing. It may be tough to find their prl. I think if you just get your phone to roam on their network with the esn added you can *228 to update it?
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Thank you the time replying but no that doesnt help at all
It's a little more involved than that, but getting the prl on the phone will make talk and text work.. But that's about it. If you've never flashed a phone to another carrier and cant follow a tutorial online you might as well pony up the cash and have someone else do it. I've done lots of sprint and verizon phones flashed to cricket and it can be time consuming depending on the phone. A tutorial online to flash to cricket would be very similiar to what carrier you're trying to flash to, but you are gunna need all the carrier specific information for you Revol. I've never heard of them.
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Thank you the time replying but no that doesnt help at all
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well what exactly are you looking for then? am i not understanding something?
you'd also need to edit APN's for mms.
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It's a little more involved than that, but getting the prl on the phone will make talk and text work.. But that's about it. If you've never flashed a phone to another carrier and cant follow a tutorial online you might as well pony up the cash and have someone else do it. I've done lots of sprint and verizon phones flashed to cricket and it can be time consuming depending on the phone. A tutorial online to flash to cricket would be very similiar to what carrier you're trying to flash to, but you are gunna need all the carrier specific information for you Revol. I've never heard of them.
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it's pretty much that. prl and esn. plus apn's of course. i don't see what else could possible need to be touched to make it work.
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well what exactly are you looking for then? am i not understanding something?
you'd also need to edit APN's for mms.
it's pretty much that. prl and esn. plus apn's of course. i don't see what else could possible need to be touched to make it work.
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Never been able to get a phone on cricket to OTA with *228 after entering the PRL and have the data work. Always had to tinker around with cdma workshop and QPST. I have done less than 10 phones though so maybe I'm not that seasoned at it.
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Never been able to get a phone on cricket to OTA with *228 after entering the PRL and have the data work. Always had to tinker around with cdma workshop and QPST. I have done less than 10 phones though so maybe I'm not that seasoned at it.
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I forgot to mention the most obvious ones I assume everyone knows the min and mdn numbers. It's been a while for me... for data you need to edit the nv item I believe. Those are all super easy. It can be done in just minutes!
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I forgot to mention the most obvious ones I assume everyone knows the min and mdn numbers. It's been a while for me... for data you need to edit the nv item I believe. Those are all super easy. It can be done in just minutes!
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Yea, the nv items.. it's mostly pretty easy as long as you have all the info to enter.. i had problems with a galaxy s2 on cricket where i had to try tons of different prl's to get data and calls to work correctly.. don't know why.
Sorry for no reply
Thank you guys, for the time you took to reply to me. Sorry I have not been responding. I have been trying to do as much research on this as I possibly can before i get into it. But I still have no idea what you're talking about.
I can admit im in over my head. I root every android phone I have ever had. I have jail broken every ipod I ever had with 0 casualties because I find an online tutorial and follow STEP BY STEP. lol
But there is no tutorial anywhere for this.
Im VERY good at following directions but you guys arent giving directions you are giving steps of what needs done. Not how to do them. Im sorry I AM a noob that just reads tutorials. I dont wanna take a crash course on this phone lol.
Hi there,
I just got a FreedomPop phone (HTC Evo Design 4G), and while $0/month is great, and it technically works, the phone itself is very slow an clunky (music player crashes, the RAM is actually downgraded from 768 to 512, general lag). Now, I have a perfectly decent Droid Razr M, which I would love to get working with the FreedomPop service.
Here is what I found so far:
* The FreedomPop phone has no SIM card. It's all software.
* I did a Titanium Backup, and found two packages of notice:
vDM Client (com.redbend.vdmc) - seems to be responsible for some kind of cellular data transfer.
Sprint DSA (com.sprint.dsa) - sprint network authentication.
There might be more, but I'm assuming it's these two that are responsible for authenticating me onto the network.
I did a Titanium Backup on the EVO, and restored it on the RAZR, but I get the permissions errors like the one below because the programs are not "signed":
10-29 16:06:22.029 W/PackageManager(699): Not granting permission android.permission.DEVICE_POWER to package com.redbend.vdmc (protectionLevel=2 flags=0x8be45)
It seems like this should be possible to figure out. I would very much appreciate any help.
Freedompop's Evo Design 4g does have a sim port and is a world phone. This is probably wrong forum to discuss, but since XDA has elected not to make one for said device, I'll continue. Main thing is: your Droid... is Verizon and Freedompop is a Sprint mvno. If I were to try such, I'd scout old phone forums [recommend droid eris]. Some got those kind of working across the cdma band differences, and you'd need to do similarly. My experience w/ moto manufactured smartphones is limited; so, no guide forthcoming from me. Hope that helps somewhat though.
Regards,
Rob
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, Moto is a Verizon while Evo Design is Sprint. The main thing, however, is that there is no sim card and the sprint access is all based on software. So theoretically, if I migrate the software, it could work. The backup-evo->restore-razr doesn't seem to work because of the app certificate issues. I think that's step one. To figure out how to install the software, so it actually works. Then figure out how to allow access to the Sprint network, since both phones are world phones.
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Mr. Pickles said:
Thanks for the reply. Yes, Moto is a Verizon while Evo Design is Sprint. The main thing, however, is that there is no sim card and the sprint access is all based on software. So theoretically, if I migrate the software, it could work. The backup-evo->restore-razr doesn't seem to work because of the app certificate issues. I think that's step one. To figure out how to install the software, so it actually works. Then figure out how to allow access to the Sprint network, since both phones are world phones.
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I know with HTC phones.. you'd need a copy of QPST, drop down into your root directory and make a "opensesame" folder. This unlocks the NV items. Inside those NV items are keys you'd need to switch out [to work on other bands]. That would have to be done at a minimum [and I don't know where motorola's storage of these lie]. Using a sacrifice phone and changing meid has been suggested by some in past, but changing the meid often changes your ESN [it recalculates]. Technically changing your ESN is a grey area. Some say its illegal; I say its illegal if your intent is to defraud. I am not a lawyer though nor do I play one on TV [nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night]; so, any and all waivers apply . Defraud is a wide grey area iow. To me, that's to discourage those that cloned phones, pirated data and calls, invaded privacy, etc and if you are experimenting on your own sacrificial phone [not to defraud anyone], I don't consider it illegal, but keep it to yourself all the same [if you have to go that route]. That's about all the help I can be on the issue. I've been able to get Sprint phones working on Sprint mvno, but never attempted the long vault [Sprint to Verizon or vice versa].
Regards,
Rob
I think this is a bit daunting of a task than what I first imagined. Thanks for the info, Rob.