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Got my Woot G Tab today. On opening the box, picking up the unit, I heard a loud click as if the case had just snapped shut. And it was on. Showing a pond with leaves falling through it and the occasional waterdrop. Actually very nice but is that the stock background? As an adroid noob, I dl'd the manual etc. and read them.
Mainly I tried to set up the wifi to get really going. Followed instructions and it said it recognized the network. Wifi on. However, the wifi symbol has a "!" in it and when I try to get the web is says network unavailable?
So I am stuck and wondering if I got a lemon. Or a hacked return. Or a permanently semi bricked refurb.
Appreciate some guidance. I don't want to send it back, I want it to work.
The background you got with the pond is the default on the shipped gtabs from the woot sell.. At least mine was that way. Its odd that it didn't offer the set up tutorial like if you do a fresh flash.
If you go to settings and click on the wireless settings you can access you wifi network and set up your pass code to connect to your wifi.
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Looks like when the factory loaded the extra apps on there (Angry Birds, et al) they put it on the classic screen by default but there is no set up tutorial that runs on them.
Unless you see scratches/smudges on the one you got it is likely new.
You get it on the network?
yeah
just as the others said the falling leaf pond is the norm atleast for the wooters. did you try moving closer to the wifi router? my tablet doesnt seem to have great range and only barley picks up my singal where the same place my netbook has no problems.
Hi all. I just got a response from woot. I emailed them saying that my Gtab had a DLINK wifi profile set up out of the box. I told them I had thought I ordered a new unit. here was their response.
The item should have been new. We will have a replacement sent to you. Please use the return label below to send back the item that does not appear to be new.
Mine was new. But thats because I was too impatient to wait for mine to arrive and went a bought one at my loacal sears, then returned the new one woot sent.
It would certainly seem that a lot of these woot tabs are returned models, considering the amount of trouble some are having just getting them to boot after flashing a custom ROM that's been tried successfully by a few thousand people to date.
There is some qustionable stuff going on with some of the Woot orders. Some had different Wi-Fi APs in the list like Staples, etc. Many, like mine, had dead pixels.
The custom rom issues could be because of 10,000+ noobs
In all of the Woot has been quick to return.
My Woot special was pre-configured to associate with any SSID named DLINK and NETGEAR. I assume this is just typical? The second I associated with my own WPA2 AP, it downloaded an update.
I went ahead and flashed the VEGAn-Tab 1.0 Beta 5.5.1 firmware. Other than some Market issues (which I plan on addressing shortly), the thing screams and works flawlessly. Looks like a new unit to me, but could have been a barely used unit that was returned.
God knows I bought a very, physically defective one (misaligned microSD slot and other, physical defects) from Sears last year for $100 more. This one was in far, far more mint condition than that one, which was supposed to be new.
Absolutely no complaints here. The unit is solid, and the firmware goes on just fine. Followed instructions (although people newer to concepts of mounting/ejecting media and other "proper" usage might need substeps) and didn't have any issues with putting VEGAn-Tab on it.
I had the same screen. When I rebooted, I THEN got the setup. Weird. I played with the stock rom for a little bit, then I went ahead and loaded vegan. Waaaay faster. Amazon Appmarket is nice. Playing with Angry Birds Rio and Weatherbug Elite. Most importantly, this is a great tablet to surf the net on. I have no idea how a person could surf at an obtuse angle comfortably, so the viewing angle is basically a non-issue. Totally worth it for $285.
OTA bricked mine.
The one I got was in apparently brand new condition (at least cosmetically).
Booted but no tutorial offered. Hooked to WiFi and it downloaded the OTA update. I played with it for few minutes, tried to run AngryBirds but it did not run (nothing displayed), weird.
Then I let it apply OTA. It rebooted to recovery, flashed the update than rebooted again, got thorough initial 2 boot screens then black out (literally). I could force it reboot, but no luck. At this point it also did not show up as a USB storage drive (should it through recovery? normal boot was hang so I did not expect it).
So I could not force update through a USB but instead grabbed TnT Lite 4.4.0 and recovered from SDCard2 (externally plugged). Works fine now.
Possibly was messed up in factory.
When I got mine it booted strait to the launcher, which had the water and leaf background on it. It seems in brand new condition, everything was flawless. The screen had no fingerprints, the manual and all the other information was packaged as it should be, the screen protector was un-opened, and the cables were packaged as new. When I put it on my network it prompted for an update, at which time I Installed a different rom. I did not check the to see if it had any other wifi info saved before I blew it away. I have even opened it up, every screw was in place, no fingerprints were anywhere on the inside to be seen, and the screws had no sign of being marked up on the head. If it is a refurb or return they did an excellent job, but I highly doubt it is.
As far as the people having trouble loading roms on the woot tablets:
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The custom rom issues could be because of 10,000+ noobs
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I would guess thats spot on.
Anyway, I have no doubt in my mind that my tablet was new.
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My unit also started in classic. I manually set up WiFi without difficulty. Once connected it quickly went into the OTA update. When I rebooted it went into the new unit startup described in the Quick Start Guide. It certainly appears to be new, but it did raise the question.
It works great so far. I am trying to decide whether to root now or let it burn in for awhile in case of hardware issues.
Mine booted to the water launcher as well on first boot up, with Angry Birds, Color Note, etc on the home screen. Then I installed the OTA update and when I rebooted, that is when I got the setup wizard.
Since it seems this is pretty common across units, I would assume that it is not due to being a refurb, otherwise there would be differences. But, while these may not be refurbs, but they were definately taken out of the box and "setup" by someone.
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Mine booted to the water launcher as well on first boot up, with Angry Birds, Color Note, etc on the home screen. Then I installed the OTA update and when I rebooted, that is when I got the setup wizard.
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This was also my experience as well. No fingerprints anywhere, box was shrink wrapped, cables were factory twist ties. I have no doubt that mine was new.
After the OTA update the preinstalled apps were gone, including the pond background, three short sample videos (king kong preview, indy cars, two animals), some sample songs including fur elise, also color note, angry birds and amazon market. There was also a dlink wifi setting that went missing after the update but still don't think it was a refurb. This thing is a fingerprint magnet, no way there wasn't even a partial on it or a speck of dust somewhere if it had been repackaged. Imho.
woot order vs tigerdirect order
I bought one from woot and then one from tigerdirect the day after. Booted them up next to each other and they were identical. The one from tiger came first and within 2 days so there would be no way they would have had time to resell it if they bought it from woot. They are now on sale at tiger so these may have been a huge woot purchase, but I do not believe mine was, considering how fast it came.
Mine seems to be brand new and works fine. After all Woot said it was new Charged up, activated wireless and played around a bit, no problem. Been playing angry birds far too much. May try to mod it when I can find all the info and know I'm not missing anything. Otherwise I don't think it is as horrible as one would be led to believe.
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Got my Woot G Tab today. On opening the box, picking up the unit, I heard a loud click as if the case had just snapped shut. And it was on. Showing a pond with leaves falling through it and the occasional waterdrop. Actually very nice but is that the stock background? As an adroid noob, I dl'd the manual etc. and read them.
Mainly I tried to set up the wifi to get really going. Followed instructions and it said it recognized the network. Wifi on. However, the wifi symbol has a "!" in it and when I try to get the web is says network unavailable?
So I am stuck and wondering if I got a lemon. Or a hacked return. Or a permanently semi bricked refurb.
Appreciate some guidance. I don't want to send it back, I want it to work.
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woot tends to sell a whole range of things, from brand new to refurbished. that is how they can get so many and sell them for so cheap. refurbished CAN be better than brand new, btw. whatever breaks first is fixed and then it is reshipped as refurbed.
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Metal_in_Silk said:
This was also my experience as well. No fingerprints anywhere, box was shrink wrapped, cables were factory twist ties. I have no doubt that mine was new.
After the OTA update the preinstalled apps were gone, including the pond background, three short sample videos (king kong preview, indy cars, two animals), some sample songs including fur elise, also color note, angry birds and amazon market. There was also a dlink wifi setting that went missing after the update but still don't think it was a refurb. This thing is a fingerprint magnet, no way there wasn't even a partial on it or a speck of dust somewhere if it had been repackaged. Imho.
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I got mine on Friday. Charged it for 4+ hours, fired it up and the launcher
took me to classic with a bunch of apps already installed as in the quote above.
I get a notice for OTA, which it goes through. I reboot and I'm still back to the same classic screen as when I first fired up the tablet (before OTA). I checked and it indeed flashed the new version (3588). Saturday, I don't spend too much time with it except for a half hour of angry birds. Sunday night, I turn it on: classic now doesn't look the same, some of the apps (as mentioned in quote above) have disappeared. WTH happened?
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I got mine on Friday. Charged it for 4+ hours, fired it up and the launcher
took me to classic with a bunch of apps already installed as in the quote above.
I get a notice for OTA, which it goes through. I reboot and I'm still back to the same classic screen as when I first fired up the tablet (before OTA). I checked and it indeed flashed the new version (3588). Saturday, I don't spend too much time with it except for a half hour of angry birds. Sunday night, I turn it on: classic now doesn't look the same, some of the apps (as mentioned in quote above) have disappeared. WTH happened?
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I had to re d/l the apps but someone posted how to find the pond background again. Long press on classic home (anywhere there isn't an icon) a menu pops up. Select wallpaper, then select live wallpaper. There are several you can choose from including the elusive water/pond. I was happy that it wasn't overwritten even tho it sucks the bottom out of my battery LOL you can almost see the sides collapsing as the juice is drawn out of it
Problem 1. Many times, I will pick up my NT after it has been sitting idle for a number of hours, and wifi simply will not connect. I try to turn it off and back on in the settings, but it says it is unable to turn wifi off. I power cycle the device and it works again. This will happen on an almost daily basis.
Problem 2. Once wifi is working, certain websites will not load, or will load just once and wont' load again for hours. For example, I bookmarked these forums, and I check them often for updates. I wasn't having any problem at all until the last couple weeks. I'm rooted with google apps, i'm using the original browser. A few moments ago, I loaded the big list of forums. It worked fine. I clicked on THIS forum, however, and it would no longer load. I can browse the forums on my Droid Charge, my Desktop PC, my iPad and my girlfriend's iPhone 4s, so I know the website is not down, and it's a problem with the NT only. Other websites on the NT work fine. I can run the Speedtest app on the tablet with no problems. I can run wifi analyzer. This problem even occurs on Dolphin Browser.
I'm about to just do a factory restore again and give up on rooting for now. This was the same problem that made me restore a few weeks ago. The browser just becomes borked after being rooted for x amount of time.
Has anyone else encountered this problem?
Just an update: After factory restoring using it for a while, and then re-rooting, I've noticed that problem 2 has never re-occurred. I'm not certain what was happening. Very strange. I reproduced the problem over and over before posting. I even tried resetting my router and modem just in case.
Problem 1 persists. Rebooting always fixes the problem temporarily, but if the device goes to sleep for a few hours whether charging or not, it will almost always need a reboot. I always try to turn wifi off and back on, but the device is unable to disable wifi during this issue. I never noticed this problem while the device was unrooted, though I'll admit I didn't keep it stock, unrooted, very long.
I'm rooted and I don't have either of the problems you mentioned. I use the dolphin browser exclusively. I'd definitely go back to stock and then re-root.
Been rooted a week. Use Dolphin-Mini and little on no trouble. WiFi seems to reach pretty far. I sometimes need to restart if idle a while.
I have not had any issues with wifi.
It's you. I have yet to have an issue with wifi. Netflix amazon player, dolphinhd etc.. all hage worked almost flawlessly
I've experienced Problem 1, where I'll need to reboot wifi after leaving my rooted Nook idle overnight, a couple of times. But it's only happened 3 or 4 times to the dozens of nights I've left it on overnight. Otherwise, I haven't experienced Problem 2 or any other issues connecting to the internet using wifi. My Nook seems rock solid in that department.
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I've experienced Problem 1, where I'll need to reboot wifi after leaving my rooted Nook idle overnight, a couple of times. But it's only happened 3 or 4 times to the dozens of nights I've left it on overnight. Otherwise, I haven't experienced Problem 2 or any other issues connecting to the internet using wifi. My Nook seems rock solid in that department.
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Same Here.
I am having the same problem 1 the past two days or so. I have sideloaded amazon app store, GO Launcher EX, the Nook app manager and several sideloaded apps from the amazon store. Also running ZD Box.
I will have the wifi just go out with the same message, I turn off and back on and its fine. I figured its one of those issues that will be cleaned up with the next update.
My son has a Nook Color still on software 1.3 and he has had it once or twice.
I am having the same problem with the Nook needing to be rebooted after sitting idle. I am rooted but I don't know if this was a problem while the device was unrooted because I only had it for about a day before rooting. Could it be Go Launcher causing the problem? Because it sounds like the poster above me isn't even rooted.
I leave wifi on 24/7, but only have my NT associated with my home network and my mifi. I have not had any issues reassociating with either of my networks after sitting in my backpack all day.
Wifi so far works great for me.
I've had my NT for over a month now, and no problems with wi-fi. My wife's 1st Edition has to be rebooted and charged up to 100% to get the wi-fi to work right. I think her problem is she keeps letting the device run down to well below 50% before reconnecting to the charger. Less power- less signal strength, I guess.
There are a couple of free apps in the market that might help you. WiFi Analyzer will pick up all the nearby signals and reporrt their strength. You can walk around your premises and see how well your router is reaching various areas.
Just a thought.
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Power-saving settings to blame?
I've seen this during three weeks of using my NT. It's not a new problem.
I used an iPaq on my home wifi for years and noted that when I enabled power saving on the wifi NIC on the iPaq, it would get stupid and lose throughput completely from time to time. I'd have to cycle the connection to get it back.
Sounds familiar.
I had it happen sporadically with my NT.
Since BN did my OTA update to 1.41 a week ago, I have not seen this happen.
I don't think sideloading is the cause since I noted this very early on in using the Nook before I sideloaded it.
I believe this is an unfortunate implementation glitch with a lot of wifi NIC's and access points, and not unique to the Nook.
No problems with mine which is rooted. Wifi works great.
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My grouse with the NT's wifi is that it seems to be pretty "weak" - signals that my laptop and Nokia N8 could find and connect aren't even visible on the Nook Tablet. That's rather inconvenient.
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My grouse with the NT's wifi is that it seems to be pretty "weak" - signals that my laptop and Nokia N8 could find and connect aren't even visible on the Nook Tablet. That's rather inconvenient.
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I've had the opposite experience, In basements and rooms where my phone or notebook have spotty access, the NT has held on like a champ.
This sounds more like a "my router and my NT don't play nice" which is a problem that I have had with my mothers Iphone and my own Droid 3. I changed some settings on the router and it worked for the iPhone, and setting a static IP helped my phone.
A widget to switch wifi on and off quickly is recomended, so that you can "reboot" your wireless. So to speak.
Its also possibly your device is defective? Try it with the wi-fi at work or at school and see if it has better stability.
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I used an iPaq on my home wifi for years and noted that when I enabled power saving on the wifi NIC on the iPaq, it would get stupid and lose throughput completely from time to time. I'd have to cycle the connection to get it back.
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Man, I haven't even thought about the iPAQ in years. I used to use one all the time until I bought my first smartphone. I had to Google it after you brought it up just for a quick trip down memory lane.
I have power save enabled on my NT and still am not having this problem at all; however, my battery is not getting below 75%. Are you guys maybe seeing this problem after the battery drops to a certain percentage, or is it all the time?
EDIT: I will also point out that if you look at the B&N Nook Forums, other Nook models like the Simple Touch are known to have wifi issues. I had a NST and it would absolutely refuse to get a DHCP address from my home router, so I would just connect it to my mifi when I had the odd occasion to need connectivity on it.
My NT is rooted and I have a similar problem but only with my router not not necessarily all routers. I just unplug my router and plug it back in and it reconnects with no problems. However, before I had my OTAs blocked, I got updated to 1.4.1 and the the issue was definitely fixed. However, that fix was not worth keeping the update. I am back to 1.4.0 and love my NT.
My NT has better wifi reception then my samsung Infuse.
Hey everyone...
I'm kind of new here, and this is my first thread. I bought an ASUS Tranformer Prime and I love this thing. First thing I did as soon as I got it was update to ICS, so I have no reference if it was working prior to that, but I started getting random reboots yesterday (my first day of use).
BUT the only difference is that I got my first reboot when I installed Dophin Browser HD from the Market. I went on installing all the apps I wanted and was on the Prime all day yesterday, and the reboots started becoming more frequent last night. I think I got a total of 6-7 reboots all day yesterday, until I uninstalled Dolphin Browser last night. Ever since I have used the Prime with no reboots.
Hopefully today will be the same and no more reboots. I will keep you guys posted. It doesn't hurt to try this.
you have a lot to learn young padawan if you look at the 500 page thread on this issue you will see that it does not have anything to do with what software is installed primes brand new out of box upgraded to ics have had the lockup issue its a matter of time before yours locks up and reboots again it can be VERY random
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Hey everyone...
I'm kind of new here, and this is my first thread. I bought an ASUS Tranformer Prime and I love this thing. First thing I did as soon as I got it was update to ICS, so I have no reference if it was working prior to that, but I started getting random reboots yesterday (my first day of use).
BUT the only difference is that I got my first reboot when I installed Dophin Browser HD from the Market. I went on installing all the apps I wanted and was on the Prime all day yesterday, and the reboots started becoming more frequent last night. I think I got a total of 6-7 reboots all day yesterday, until I uninstalled Dolphin Browser last night. Ever since I have used the Prime with no reboots.
Hopefully today will be the same and no more reboots. I will keep you guys posted. It doesn't hurt to try this.
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problem happens on boot up and before OS loads too. has nothing to do with apps
yup, thats what happened to my wifes. On occassions the prime rebooted a few time while on the boot screen. And aftermarket live wallpapers made the main screen lag.
Sorry guys I thought maybe it would help some people out, but I haven't gotten a reboot ever since I removed that app. My problem and reboots are definitely not at startup, just in the middle of messing around on the net or the market. But it was rebooting every hour almost. Thanks for letting me know and I will keep watching for random reboots.
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It's entirely possible that some people have been experiencing reboots because of Dolphin, but have automatically lumped themselves in with people experiencing the deeper problem of rebooting regardless of installed apps.
So, OP, thanks for mentioning this. It might very well help someone out.
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It's entirely possible that some people have been experiencing reboots because of Dolphin, but have automatically lumped themselves in with people experiencing the deeper problem of rebooting regardless of installed apps.
So, OP, thanks for mentioning this. It might very well help someone out.
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No software would cause the prime to entirely reboot simply the application itself would crash and force close.
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No software would cause the prime to entirely reboot simply the application itself would crash and force close.
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not entirely true. when my Epic 4g Touch freezes, if i keep tapping the screen or press the buttons, ill get a reboot. its almost like ive overloaded the cpu or ram? im not sure whats happening. but if i do nothing, it catches up and is fine. it rarely happens, but when it does, its when im reading/writing to storage (internal OR external SD). and i also know too that the prime has had less than desirable storage read/write performance. maybe hes downloading something or its caching a web page to memory? im not sure, but i do know it happens...
I just was talking with a friend of mine who had also gotten a prime over Christmas time. He said that in the beginning, he used to get reboots all the time... but it slowly stopped and finally doesn't reboot any more.
Mine typically reboots while media is playing or while I'm using the market. Sometimes it reboots while just navigating home screens..it's just so erratic. There's no way to predict it at all.
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Mine typically reboots while media is playing or while I'm using the market. Sometimes it reboots while just navigating home screens..it's just so erratic. There's no way to predict it at all.
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Defiantly erratic for me
Ive had reboots, in many different apps, sometimes a lock up then reboots, or just an instant reboot.
Yet sometimes I can be absolutely using it intensively for long periods, playing multiple games one after each other, browsing with multiple tabs... etc no reboot for hours.
Then i can just be scrolling through a simple menu and bam i get a reboot....
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No software would cause the prime to entirely reboot simply the application itself would crash and force close.
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Not if there is a memory leak or something in the OS that is exploited by a certain app (obv not on purpose but exacerbated by the app) causing the OS to fail.
Got like 3 Reboots so far since .21 ... all 3 while playing video... 2x TED Talk app, and MX Player yesterday... both times after switching out of the a playing video and switching back to the app... the app can't resume the playback... hangs and reboots...
no other situations so far.
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Got like 3 Reboots so far since .21 ... all 3 while playing video... 2x TED Talk app, and MX Player yesterday... both times after switching out of the a playing video and switching back to the app... the app can't resume the playback... hangs and reboots...
no other situations so far.
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Same here, I get typically get two reboots a day like clockwork and they come while playing video. I will see the video play in some sort of loop while the audio is just fine and then it will freeze and reboot. Or if I'm able to exit out of the app then will freeze and reboot. Not really a big deal yet, as ICS loads pretty fast. Outside of that and weak wifi this is a great tablet.
I just got my first reboot couple days ago. It was while I was watching video on YouTube. My video started sluttering and artifacting....thought it was the uploaded video then tried to reloaded it-it did the same thing-sluttering and artifacting and it rebooted itself. It almost looks like driver issue to me. I hope it is fixed in the future updates.
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slowatsch said:
Got like 3 Reboots so far since .21 ... all 3 while playing video... 2x TED Talk app, and MX Player yesterday... both times after switching out of the a playing video and switching back to the app... the app can't resume the playback... hangs and reboots...
no other situations so far.
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Grüezi!
I believe the Ted reboot problem is with the app itself, and you're not the first to experience it.
I just installed AndroWook rom. I didn't want to, not really. I was hoping to never have to unlock my prime. But then there was the thread about performance, and the other one about users not being able to unlock. How could I possibly walk away from that kind of a challenge? So I downloaded it just to see if it would work. And it did. So then I had to install TWRP, and then I had to install a rom.
So I installed AndroWook with Motley 3.0.5 and all the tweeks it had to offer.
I didn't wipe, I cleared cache and dalvik. I have nearly 2 years of screwing around on an HTC desire, so I felt comfortable with this level of deleting. Everything booted up properly, no apps were missing and everything (as of now) is working at least as well as before.
Then came the big test. The one that annoys me more then anything else. Copying a file from a USB thumb drive to internal memory. It usually takes 10 times as long as my windows PC does. So I plugged in the drive and copied a 250mb file. It took all of 20 seconds (I didn't really time, but it was MUCH faster). My jaw dropped.
I'm sold. ASUS has no clue what they're doing. This thing is great. I can copy files to the internal storage without staring at the percentage copying 10, then stoping, 12, stop, 15, stop, 20... This time it went smoothly from 0 to 100%.
If you haven't unlocked your device, you're missing out.
Appreciate the oppinion. Would like to hear more from your experiences with custom firmware as I'm also very unsatisfied with stock rom.
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Appreciate the oppinion. Would like to hear more from your experiences with custom firmware as I'm also very unsatisfied with stock rom.
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Well I've been up for about 2 hours now, and while I'm not sure if it 'feels' a lot of faster, but I haven't had screen tear issues. I'll keep running this rom for at least a week and I'll update if anything changes. If there's anything you'd like me to test (as long as it is free or I already have it) let me know!
Parastie, you sound just like me almost. I've been twitching at all these challenges being presented before me. Failed unlocks, failed roots, better performance. How I've managed to resist unlocking so far is beyond me. My poor desire s didn't last so long, its been flashed so many times I don't think it knows what kind of device it even is anymore.
So you say file transfer is slow on stock, eh? I must witness this. Might be the straw that breaks the camels back for me. The one last push to unlocking.
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Then came the big test. The one that annoys me more then anything else. Copying a file from a USB thumb drive to internal memory. It usually takes 10 times as long as my windows PC does. So I plugged in the drive and copied a 250mb file. It took all of 20 seconds (I didn't really time, but it was MUCH faster). My jaw dropped.
I'm sold. ASUS has no clue what they're doing. This thing is great. I can copy files to the internal storage without staring at the percentage copying 10, then stoping, 12, stop, 15, stop, 20... This time it went smoothly from 0 to 100%.
If you haven't unlocked your device, you're missing out.
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Welcome to the club!
So when you say copying from thumb drive to internal memory, you mean via the usb port on the dock right? (must be because I can't think of how else you would be doing it.)
The reason I ask is, I've been unlocked for a while, but haven't done any thumb drive to internal memory copying since I unlocked. I also found this unbelievably slow when running stock though (and all the starting and stopping made me think WTF???)
Gotta try it out tonight.
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Welcome to the club!
So when you say copying from thumb drive to internal memory, you mean via the usb port on the dock right? (must be because I can't think of how else you would be doing it.)
The reason I ask is, I've been unlocked for a while, but haven't done any thumb drive to internal memory copying since I unlocked. I also found this unbelievably slow when running stock though (and all the starting and stopping made me think WTF???)
Gotta try it out tonight.
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Yeah the copying to internal memory was the most annoying. Slow as dirt, it makes putting HD movies on this thing impossible. I've only tried one file, but I'm going to try another large file when I get some time.
Also note, screen tearing still happens. I got it to stop by locking the screen for a few seconds, but that's still an issue.
Parastie, you sound just like me almost. I've been twitching at all these challenges being presented before me. Failed unlocks, failed roots, better performance. How I've managed to resist unlocking so far is beyond me. My poor desire s didn't last so long, its been flashed so many times I don't think it knows what kind of device it even is anymore.
So you say file transfer is slow on stock, eh? I must witness this. Might be the straw that breaks the camels back for me. The one last push to unlocking.
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Anyone know if handwriting notetaking is better with any custom roms? My biggest problem with the prime has been how bad the digitizer seems to be (as in trying to draw a diagonal line the prime makes a crazy wavy line). Touchscreen tune helps but doesn't fully fix the problem.
Not sure if this is something a ROM can really fix or not.
It does help some, I can tell the difference in a well performing rom by using handwriting apps. The handwriting apps when a rom is slow or sluggish don't keep up, kind of like an underpowered android phone and keyboard lag. But when performing properly, the handwriting is more accurate and keeps up with the stylus or finger, in my experiences.
Without seeing your problem, I can't say if it's because of your software and/or configuration, or if it's some very strange hardware problem that software can't fix. But I can tell you that typically a tablets performance overall greatly affects how things react to the touch screen and how the graphics render.
Parastie said:
Well I've been up for about 2 hours now, and while I'm not sure if it 'feels' a lot of faster, but I haven't had screen tear issues. I'll keep running this rom for at least a week and I'll update if anything changes. If there's anything you'd like me to test (as long as it is free or I already have it) let me know!
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Can you please either confirm or contradict one thing: I had a battery drain issue. For example before going to bed the tablet was docked and both batteries almost full, in the morning - dock battery flat, tablet - half empty. SystemPanel suggested it's a Facebook app and, miracle, as soon as I deleted the app I haven't seen leaks anymore.
This's a bit strange because this app has never caused drain issues before. Syncing and notifications were disabled.
Parastie said:
I'm sold. ASUS has no clue what they're doing. This thing is great. I can copy files to the internal storage without staring at the percentage copying 10, then stoping, 12, stop, 15, stop, 20... This time it went smoothly from 0 to 100%.
If you haven't unlocked your device, you're missing out.
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I won't defend asus as far a knowing what they are doing but I have never used a stock mobile device that could not be drastically improved by dedicated developers. The hardware companies are only focused on a product as long as it takes to hit a shelf and then by and large you are on your own. Thats why this is the best site on the internet for non sheep type people.
svladimir said:
Can you please either confirm or contradict one thing: I had a battery drain issue. For example before going to bed the tablet was docked and both batteries almost full, in the morning - dock battery flat, tablet - half empty. SystemPanel suggested it's a Facebook app and, miracle, as soon as I deleted the app I haven't seen leaks anymore.
This's a bit strange because this app has never caused drain issues before. Syncing and notifications were disabled.
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This sounds like a text book app or widget problem and not a device problem.
svladimir said:
Can you please either confirm or contradict one thing: I had a battery drain issue. For example before going to bed the tablet was docked and both batteries almost full, in the morning - dock battery flat, tablet - half empty. SystemPanel suggested it's a Facebook app and, miracle, as soon as I deleted the app I haven't seen leaks anymore.
This's a bit strange because this app has never caused drain issues before. Syncing and notifications were disabled.
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if you want to keep the facebook app, try turning off wifi when you turn the tablet off before you go to bed. super easy with the dock and i've gotten in the habit of doing so myself. i see 1-2% battery drain on teh tablet overnight, and <1% on teh dock. you might also want to try setting wifi to not stay on during sleep by default in settings, but idk if a wakelock via facebook would fix this.
also, did you try clearing data and cache or restarting and it still did this? anyways, sorry to be so OT to the OP. PM me if you want to chat about this some more.
I also bit the bullet yesterday.
Unfortunately my experience was not so good...
1. Unlocked, installed TRWP, made backup (and titanium).
2. Wipe device.
3. Install Androwook.
4. Tried to restore Titanium backup on to find it will prompt you twice for every app (I was not going to do this for 150 odd apps).
5. Go back to recovery, wipe device, and restore backup (this 'only' took about 30 minutes...).
6. Reboot, took about 15 minutes to boot.
7. My home screen was messed up, none of my installed apps would run, only the apps included in ROM.
8. Go back to recovery, wipe again, and installed AndroWook again.
9. Spent the entire day downloading apps from the play store again.
During the last step, the poor tablet consistently froze and even had a random reboot. Play store ANR'd about 15 times...
Eventually had everything back installed, but all my 'user data' is lost (hopefully I can recover this with Titanium if needed).
To be honest. It does not really feel any different. No OOOOHH's and AAAAAHH's like everyone says.
So now I have 2 problems. A useless tablet and no bloody warranty.
To top this off, I discovered another dead pixel (white one, not so noticeable) yesterday.
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4. Tried to restore Titanium backup on to find it will prompt you twice for every app (I was not going to do this for 150 odd apps).
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The paid version of Titanium Backup allows for one-click batch restoring...
Parastie said:
Then came the big test. The one that annoys me more then anything else. Copying a file from a USB thumb drive to internal memory. It usually takes 10 times as long as my windows PC does. So I plugged in the drive and copied a 250mb file. It took all of 20 seconds (I didn't really time, but it was MUCH faster).
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Thats the only thing which is bugging me on the stock rom. Can others confirm this major improvement? Can anyone say what is responsible for this I/O enhancement? Is it the ROM (IO schedulers) or is it Motleys kernel?
Stefan
Parastie said:
Yeah the copying to internal memory was the most annoying. Slow as dirt, it makes putting HD movies on this thing impossible. I've only tried one file, but I'm going to try another large file when I get some time.
Also note, screen tearing still happens. I got it to stop by locking the screen for a few seconds, but that's still an issue.
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I was on the fence about this issue too. Screen tearing & I/O performance was a big issue for me. Looks like it's device dependent, some users dont have it, some have it. Our device have this issue. ;(
B4 this I've read a few posts from other forumers claiming that tearing still happens on custom kernel & ROM.
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I was on the fence about this issue too. Screen tearing & I/O performance was a big issue for me. Looks like it's device dependent, some users dont have it, some have it. Our device have this issue. ;(
B4 this I've read a few posts from other forumers claiming that tearing still happens on custom kernel & ROM.
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Wouldn't be a surprise as they're based off the stock rom.
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MXR2 said:
I was on the fence about this issue too. Screen tearing & I/O performance was a big issue for me. Looks like it's device dependent, some users dont have it, some have it. Our device have this issue. ;(
B4 this I've read a few posts from other forumers claiming that tearing still happens on custom kernel & ROM.
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Well screen tearing still happens here. Of course, I did not do a full wipe and I'm running Wook which is based on stock. It is possible that AOKP or CM9 would not have this problem. I was going for what most people said was the fastest. As far as day-to-day use goes, after a full day I don't really see a huge difference. It was great before, and it still is.
BongoBong said:
Anyone know if handwriting notetaking is better with any custom roms? My biggest problem with the prime has been how bad the digitizer seems to be (as in trying to draw a diagonal line the prime makes a crazy wavy line). Touchscreen tune helps but doesn't fully fix the problem.
Not sure if this is something a ROM can really fix or not.
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I suspect JB ROMs will be better at this as it bumps-up the CPU speed for user interactions.
Past 3 or 4 months my VS996 has been freezing or locking up randomly.
When this happens, the phone is not in use . It's asleep in my pocket, or on my desk, or on my night stand. I have to hold volume button and power to restart it. When it comes back up, everything looks fine.
I have done a factory reset, tried uninstalling apps, and most recently got the phone replaced under LGs 2 year promise warranty. One week in and the replacement phone has started freezing just like the old phone.
My wife has the exact same phone and runs many of the same apps with no issues. My phone is stock android, not rooted and no mods. This is frustrating and I don't know what to try in order to troubleshoot.
Is there an app commonly known to have issues on the V30 (such as nova launcher)? Or is there a logging app i could install to capture info about why it crashed/locked up?
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Past 3 or 4 months my VS996 has been freezing or locking up randomly.
When this happens, the phone is not in use . It's asleep in my pocket, or on my desk, or on my night stand. I have to hold volume button and power to restart it. When it comes back up, everything looks fine.
I have done a factory reset, tried uninstalling apps, and most recently got the phone replaced under LGs 2 year promise warranty. One week in and the replacement phone has started freezing just like the old phone.
My wife has the exact same phone and runs many of the same apps with no issues. My phone is stock android, not rooted and no mods. This is frustrating and I don't know what to try in order to troubleshoot.
Is there an app commonly known to have issues on the V30 (such as nova launcher)? Or is there a logging app i could install to capture info about why it crashed/locked up?
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No, Nova launcher works great.
The fact that your replacement phone is now acting the same way is a clue. The problem is probably going to be a "rouge" app that is receiving/sending ads in the background. Just the other day was another report of almost 250 apps found in Google Play store with ad malware, all from Cooltek. A few months ago similar situation with hundreds of other apps -- where in the background ads and videos were being played (user never saw them, but the process was running), so the companies would get advertising money.
It's going to be an app you have that your wife doesn't.
Had a friend who kept complaining to me her V30+ "Thumbnail Gallery" app (or some such silly name) kept closing and her phone was acting weird. I asked why she was even using that app. She said that's how viewed her pictures. I said no, a gallery app comes with the phone. She couldn't even remember where it came from. She said maybe a friend told her to install it. I told her to uninstall it NOW. I need to see what else crap she has installed... because she's always complaining about her phone. None of the other friends/family complain about their V30 and mine runs smooth as does my wife's. So, I know my friend's phone must have more ad malware apps on it.
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No, Nova launcher works great.
The fact that your replacement phone is now acting the same way is a clue. The problem is probably going to be a "rouge" app that is receiving/sending ads in the background. Just the other day was another report of almost 250 apps found in Google Play store with ad malware, all from Cooltek. A few months ago similar situation with hundreds of other apps -- where in the background ads and videos were being played (user never saw them, but the process was running), so the companies would get advertising money.
It's going to be an app you have that your wife doesn't.
Had a friend who kept complaining to me her V30+ "Thumbnail Gallery" app (or some such silly name) kept closing and her phone was acting weird. I asked why she was even using that app. She said that's how viewed her pictures. I said no, a gallery app comes with the phone. She couldn't even remember where it came from. She said maybe a friend told her to install it. I told her to uninstall it NOW. I need to see what else crap she has installed... because she's always complaining about her phone. None of the other friends/family complain about their V30 and mine runs smooth as does my wife's. So, I know my friend's phone must have more ad malware apps on it.
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Yeah, I was pretty bummed when my replacement started because I knew it meant i was going to be sleuthing through apps trying to find the culprit.
I am usually pretty good about recognizing shady apps. That's why i was hoping maybe there was an app just known to have this kind of issue with the V30.
Also, I have been trusting google play protect to alert me of any suspicious apps. Is it safe to say there could be a malicious app installed, but that play protect might not find it?
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Yeah, I was pretty bummed when my replacement started because I knew it meant i was going to be sleuthing through apps trying to find the culprit.
I am usually pretty good about recognizing shady apps. That's why i was hoping maybe there was an app just known to have this kind of issue with the V30.
Also, I have been trusting google play protect to alert me of any suspicious apps. Is it safe to say there could be a malicious app installed, but that play protect might not find it?
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Yes, google "cooltek ad malware" for most recent news.
There were many other apps discovered a few months ago, where the users never saw the millions of clicks on ads that were being generated. They were just running in the background.
https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/13/new-android-adware-google-play/
I'd suggest starting with only the apps you and your wife both have. You could use Titanium Backup to freeze the others, for example, or just uninstall them. While you're there look for odd looking apps - some apps will install companion bits which is where the malware resides, for example. Then, stay that way for a while and see how it goes... if it solves the issue, you know it's one of those apps.
Depending on how many unique apps you have, you can add them one at a time or a few at a time, then let it run that way for a while, etc. Repeat until you find the app or apps that cause the issue.
In the first step, if you can't figure out which apps are good/bad, you could simply factory-reset the phone and then add ONLY the matching apps, then work forward from there...
Hello urushiol, I have the same problem as you
I've bought off ebay a LG V30+ H930DS 128go to replace my laggy LG G5 at a pretty good price (150€). The back cover was crack, so I replaced it with a 10€ one from aliexpress.
Unfortunately the phone randomly freeze, like once every day or two making it horrible to use it as an alarm for work, and using it. When it happens, power button doesn't do anything, I need to do the Volume - min + power button to restart the phone.
When my phone was in the pocket, the screen is black (I thought it was shutdown) but then it happens when my phone was on my desk, and saw that always on display was working but phone isn't waking up with power button (then I knew it just freezes).
Battery health is good according to battery apps, already tried factory reset, I use the same apps as on my G5.
I'm not sure if it's a hardware problem or software, if I have the same problem as you, it must be software then.
Weirdly enough, my phone hasn't freeze since four days, i don't know why. (I use device uptime to see).
But even it it looks like it doesn't freeze much right now, I totally do not trust this phone as an alarm for work so I think I'm going to change the phone for something else. I had the G3 and G5 and I never had issue with them freezing.
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Unfortunately the phone randomly freeze, like once every day or two making it horrible to use it as an alarm for work, and using it. When it happens, power button doesn't do anything, I need to do the Volume - min + power button to restart the phone.
When my phone was in the pocket, the screen is black (I thought it was shutdown) but then it happens when my phone was on my desk, and saw that always on display was working but phone isn't waking up with power button (then I knew it just freezes).
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This is extremely similar to my issues. I have started using a tablet instead for my alarm. I have nearly been late for work several times due to it locking up in the night.
I think i may have found the app that was causing my issue at least. 5 days without a lockup now. Carrier services. I had installed this app knowing that RCS roll out was on the horizon, and i wanted to be ready. If anyone else has this app installed on Verizon with no issue I think i just got lucky with not having a lockup and it might lockup any day now. We'll see. I'll keep testing.
urushiol said:
This is extremely similar to my issues. I have started using a tablet instead for my alarm. I have nearly been late for work several times due to it locking up in the night.
I think i may have found the app that was causing my issue at least. 5 days without a lockup now. Carrier services. I had installed this app knowing that RCS roll out was on the horizon, and i wanted to be ready. If anyone else has this app installed on Verizon with no issue I think i just got lucky with not having a lockup and it might lockup any day now. We'll see. I'll keep testing.
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It has been 15 days without freezing for me.
I have a "no carrier" phone so no Verizon app or other carrier related things.
Do you have OnOff app ? (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onoffapp.app)
I've uninstalled this app (and maybe one or two others) and it seems like since then I don't have freeze anymore.
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It has been 15 days without freezing for me.
I have a "no carrier" phone so no Verizon app or other carrier related things.
Do you have OnOff app ? (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onoffapp.app)
I've uninstalled this app (and maybe one or two others) and it seems like since then I don't have freeze anymore.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.ims&hl=en_US
Carrier services is mostly used by people who aren't on verizon, because unless you have a Pixel, verizon hasn't supported it. Hopefully this is changing soon so I installed it a bit early. Hoping this was my issue. I haven't heard of OnOff before.
All other apps i had were from major companies. Accept this one, a game:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h8games.helixjump
I also removed it, but did have one lockup after removing it and before removing carrier services.
urushiol said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.ims&hl=en_US
Carrier services is mostly used by people who aren't on verizon, because unless you have a Pixel, verizon hasn't supported it. Hopefully this is changing soon so I installed it a bit early. Hoping this was my issue. I haven't heard of OnOff before.
All other apps i had were from major companies. Accept this one, a game:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h8games.helixjump
I also removed it, but did have one lockup after removing it and before removing carrier services.
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Ok I didn't know, I'm not from USA. I don't have RCS installed and don't have this game neither.
I have the LG-H930DS Rev.1.1 with Android 8.0 April 2019 security patch - V22j-HKG-XX. Everything is stock on mine, stock launcher, no root etc...
Now I just have a jack problem, where I hear only from one ear depending of how the jack cable is twisted, I will try to change it without breaking the back cover.