Could someone explain the stock messaging app to me? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

I can't figure out how the app determines the order to display messages. Whenever I respond to a text it puts my response above the message I received instead of below it. Sometimes it will be put below, but I can't figure out how it determines the order.

Something like that was reported on from day lights savings. After a day or so it seemed to fix itself.
How long has it been doing that/have you had the phone?
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I've had this one for about 2 days but I have had two others of the same phone over the past month. One was returned so I could buy it cheaper else where and the other had hardware problems. All three have acted the same with messaging

So it looks like the time stamp on incoming messages are 1 minute ahead of my phone.

Very odd. Have you flashed a custom rom yet? Very possibly might kick it into gear and work right. But even so, I think it's very likely it'll start recording them right within a couple days.
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This happened to me 2 or 3 times on the captivate but always cleared up and acted right before a full day was up.

gr8hairy1 said:
Very odd. Have you flashed a custom rom yet? Very possibly might kick it into gear and work right. But even so, I think it's very likely it'll start recording them right within a couple days.
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Yes I have, I am currently running unnamed 1.3.1 on the latest entropy dd.

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Txt message threads out of order

So I know I saw this somewhere but I cant seem to find it anywhere now. I am having a problem with my txt messages coming in earlier than they should. My outgoing have the correct time but my incoming in the thread is always about a half hour too early and end up making it so my threaded convos are seperated. Does anyone know how to fix this? It never did this before and just started last night after I installed a battery mod. Its really quite annoying.
samething started happening to me last night. no idea whats causing it, I havent made any changes to my phone since root a few weeks ago. still on stock fwiw
hmm I was thinking it was the time change but I was txting last night when the time changed and everything was fine after that. Then I stopped txting and installed a battery mod and the touch wiz mod and this morning I noticed none of my messages were coming in correctly. I know there is an app called smstimefix but i'd rather not have to use an app (using some battery and resources) to fix something that was working before.
mine seems to be more than a time issue, im having trouble receiving texts at all now, everything is coming in like 30 minutes late and often in mass groups of messages.
Nice to see I'm not the only one.
It's the Y2K bug back for revenge! Just really late.... kinda like my text messages....
So nobody has a fix for this?
same
I had the same problem yesterday, with both mis-labeled time and delayed message received. I don't if it was the time change or the AT&T outage in my area(maybe related?).
I just removed my battery a couple of times and texts are coming in just fine now.
Same here. That was really strange cuz the time change didnt affect me at first but when I woke up it was all messed up. hmm oh well lol.
I talked to an AT&T person and she said it was caused by the time change and should be fixed by now ISH
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Weird...so it was the network...that was totally annoying. Def glad it is resolved. Thanks for reporting so now i know its not my phone!!!
tmckenn2 said:
I talked to an AT&T person and she said it was caused by the time change and should be fixed by now ISH
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This has been happening to me on and off for the last month. I hope its a network thing, but it seems unlikely if it was happening a month ago.

[Q] AT&T Multiple Texts and Delayed Texts???

Have had this device since the day it came out and not sure if i noticed this issue right off the bat but the last month or so it is now almost an everyday problem. I will get a text message say at 2pm. Then again say at 2:30pm will get a new text message notification, open it and see it is the same exact text message i got at 2pm and it is also time stamped at 2pm even though it is now 2:30pm. This will happen maybe 3-4x all within a 4hr window. This will happen regardless what network the sender is on, can be ATT, Verizon, etc. No real pattern to this issue, i live in an area with literally full 4g network everywhere.
Also i will sometimes get delayed text messages. Say it's 1pm and i get a new text message notification. I check it and the time stamp on it is 12:40am even though that was 20min ago and i'm just now receiving the text message even though this whole time i was in full 4g network?
I don't know if this is a bunk device or maybe bad sim card. Spoke with AT&T numerous times and I swear I don't know where the hell they find these people as they can't find their thumb from their a$$hole it seems like they are so clueless. All they want to do is master reset, that doesn't work then they offer to mail me a replacement device. I flash roms so that in itself i would think in a way is a master reset.
Is there a way maybe to check my network settings on my device and if so what should they be for AT&T in the USA? I use Elegancia roms using the ATT network settings he has in place and no one else is having this issue which makes me think maybe it's a bad sim card or just bunk device as this issue seems to get worse by the day now. First i happened maybe twice a week, now it's more like twice a day.
I can easily get a replacement phone but really want that as a last resort. Not looking forward to unlocking, rooting, etc all from scratch again unless there's no other option and i really do have a bad device.
I have had the same issue, it was pretty bad on stock as sometimes I would get a message hours later as well as multiple messages. Using the Elegancia ROMs has somewhat helped, but it still happens from time to time.
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I've experienced this as well; running completely stock and on various roms. I noticed it was really bad if I used any 3rd party messaging apps.
+1 here
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This has just started happening to me within the past few days on stock. So far it's only been with 2 or 3 text messages, but it's interesting to see that I'm not the only one having this issue. Could it be a carrier issue?
My understanding and this could all be BS is that android doesn't have a full good push system. Instead it is a pull system based on periodic checks to the provider carriers.
So if u are scheduled to check text at 1230 and get one at 1201 then u don't get notification until 1230.
I think u can always change the frequency of your checks but it's just more data usage or battery drain.
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Rularn said:
My understanding and this could all be BS is that android doesn't have a full good push system. Instead it is a pull system based on periodic checks to the provider carriers.
So if u are scheduled to check text at 1230 and get one at 1201 then u don't get notification until 1230.
I think u can always change the frequency of your checks but it's just more data usage or battery drain.
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That's not how it works, atleast not that long
Your phone typically checks for texts/calls every 3 seconds not every 30 minutes
There used to be a setting you could access to change this, but I know the default is 3
The problems these people are having are network issues
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I've had this issue and engaged ATT about it extensively. They swear up and down it's not a network related issue or a issue with the rom. They replacement my phone with a refurb, still same issues. They just sent me a replacement sim card (which I just got today but have yet to pick it up from the front office).
Doubt any of this will fix the issue. But yea, it sucks.
ddean5 said:
I've had this issue and engaged ATT about it extensively. They swear up and down it's not a network related issue or a issue with the rom. They replacement my phone with a refurb, still same issues. They just sent me a replacement sim card (which I just got today but have yet to pick it up from the front office).
Doubt any of this will fix the issue. But yea, it sucks.
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Well seems very odd unless nation wide ATT is doing major network changes. I'm in LA California unless all u live here too with the same problem but unlikely. I've been with ATT since 2004 and had many smartphones since and never had this issue until this device about a month after buying it.
I'm going to try the SIM card replacement and see what that does. If no correction then Mayne I can prolong this til the HTC One comes out and get my phone replaced with that! Wishful thinking but seriously WTF?
deeznuts said:
Well seems very odd unless nation wide ATT is doing major network changes. I'm in LA California unless all u live here too with the same problem but unlikely. I've been with ATT since 2004 and had many smartphones since and never had this issue until this device about a month after buying it.
I'm going to try the SIM card replacement and see what that does. If no correction then Mayne I can prolong this til the HTC One comes out and get my phone replaced with that! Wishful thinking but seriously WTF?
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May I ask if you are using the HTC message app or a 3rd party app? Or both at the same time? Also is this issue the same for all your contact sending you a text? Or just some of them?
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May I ask if you are using the HTC message app or a 3rd party app? Or both at the same time? Also is this issue the same for all your contact sending you a text? Or just some of them?
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Using stock htc messaging. It's random, really no pattern. Sometimes it happens when texting my wife, sometimes not. Same with other contacts. Even when AT&T sent me a test text it was sent twice as a duplicate.
Have you try to eliminate completely the HTC Message app (you can do so via Aroma or with TB), and installing a third party app to verify if this issue is still occurring?
I guess it was a joke thinking a new SIM card would fix the issue. As soon as the ATT rep put the new SIM in, about 10 minutes later get the ATT text. Then 15min later get a new text message and what do u know, it's a duplicate!
Only other thing I can think of is doing a full master reset, new install of the Elegancia 4.4 Rom with full wipe. This is what I usually do but then restore my data via TWRP Data backup. This time I'll try the above WITHOUT doing the data restore and see if that makes any difference. If not then I guess it's device replacement time.
I don't see how it would only be the HTC messaging app as many people use it on the same Rom as me and/or same android OS version of me and they are not having this problem.
Pretty convinced it's maybe the antennas in my device went bad or maybe my data restore is causing network complications?
See screenshot and see time above and time received second text, duplicate still.
I remember having issues long time ago with another device practically as yours and the issue was effectively an issue with the restoration.
As for the third app choice, well, it's a way of testing if something could be conflicting with the HTC Message app. Your choice for not testing.
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I remember having issues long time ago with another device practically as yours and the issue was effectively an issue with the restoration.
As for the third app choice, well, it's a way of testing if something could be conflicting with the HTC Message app. Your choice for not testing.
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Just wanted to test out other things first and maybe that last as I feel that's the last thing that could he causing this. So far after a full wipe and fresh Rom install, no duplicates yet. Tested multiple people all day for better testing and no issues yet. Will report back...
Same thing happens to my HOX+... 100% exactly as described. I'm using stock Rom and stock messaging app (Rooted and TWRP recovery).
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joey-pagan said:
Same thing happens to my HOX+... 100% exactly as described. I'm using stock Rom and stock messaging app (Rooted and TWRP recovery).
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Have u found any fixes? Surprised all these people coming out the wood work with the same exact issue as me but I'm the first to post about it.
Update for me well all went well for about 5 days then boom, freakin dupes came back. I did a fresh install, full wipe, zero restore, all from scratch. I was so happy thought it was fixed then the other day when the wife texted me it came in 3x that day all at difference times hut of course with original time stamp.
Only other thing I can think of is to get my device replaced but just hate to go through the whole unlocking process again and transferring music, etc onto new device and zagg screen replacement... Damn HTC, what r u doin?!?
i know CM10.1 aint stable yet, but you can use it for sms n stuff, can you see if this happens on that rom for me please (CM10.1 ATT/TELUS)
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i know CM10.1 aint stable yet, but you can use it for sms n stuff, can you see if this happens on that rom for me please (CM10.1 ATT/TELUS)
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I used your AT&T CM 10.1 ROM for 3 days and had no SMS/MMS issues at all. I did add a custom APN with the help of tweaker. The new APN allowed the MMS messages to download faster. The ROM is smooth and fast. I needed my phone app so reluctantly I had to revert back to a sense ROM. Thanks for your hard work on this device.
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No doubt it's a network issue. I live in Alaska and have the same problem along with everyone else I know who has att, including people with iphones.

[Q] Cant send MMS...at least not all the time

I just installed Cm10.1 on my Razr, it was working fine. much better then my stock rom. I get better service, my texting app isnt broken and its all around a lot faster too. The only problem i have experienced is the intermittent capacity of my phone to send and/or receive picture messages. Earlier today my girlfriend sent me a picture. It wasnt until i had rebooted my phone 2 times and wiped cache did i finally get the messages. I dont know if it was a fluke that it happened like that or not, but its kind of inconvenient.
Afterwards i tried to send a picture back, it was pretty much just a random picture of where i was standing at the time, nothing important, but it did not want to send. No matter what I did it would not send. I wound up checking back at it about 20 mins later and it said that it sent and it actually did.
Is anyone else experiencing this phenomenon and how do i fix it? or is it just something that im going to hope is fixed with a new update soon?
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I just installed Cm10.1 on my Razr, it was working fine. much better then my stock rom. I get better service, my texting app isnt broken and its all around a lot faster too. The only problem i have experienced is the intermittent capacity of my phone to send and/or receive picture messages. Earlier today my girlfriend sent me a picture. It wasnt until i had rebooted my phone 2 times and wiped cache did i finally get the messages. I dont know if it was a fluke that it happened like that or not, but its kind of inconvenient.
Afterwards i tried to send a picture back, it was pretty much just a random picture of where i was standing at the time, nothing important, but it did not want to send. No matter what I did it would not send. I wound up checking back at it about 20 mins later and it said that it sent and it actually did.
Is anyone else experiencing this phenomenon and how do i fix it? or is it just something that im going to hope is fixed with a new update soon?
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post this in the development thread of cm 10 and somebody will respond to you if they have experienced it already or with a solution if its been updated.

[Q] Texts messaging problems, anyone have any ideas on a fix?

Hi guys, long time X2 user here. I have recently been having text messaging problems in which every now and then a text I send will look like it went through fine on my phone, but the recipient never receives it. Or, sometimes a text will not go through as mentioned above but then if I send another text an hour or two later to the same person, she gets both texts at the same time!!! Even though they were sent hours or even days apart.
It is incredibly frustrating, and texting is one of the few things that I NEED my phone to do. I'm booting up an older Driod 3 to use for now, but has anyone had a problem like this? Or does anyone know how to fix it? I've sbf-ed twice, been on stock, CM7, and Eclipse but the problem persists on all of them. Thanks
LeadoffMan131 said:
Hi guys, long time X2 user here. I have recently been having text messaging problems in which every now and then a text I send will look like it went through fine on my phone, but the recipient never receives it. Or, sometimes a text will not go through as mentioned above but then if I send another text an hour or two later to the same person, she gets both texts at the same time!!! Even though they were sent hours or even days apart.
It is incredibly frustrating, and texting is one of the few things that I NEED my phone to do. I'm booting up an older Driod 3 to use for now, but has anyone had a problem like this? Or does anyone know how to fix it? I've sbf-ed twice, been on stock, CM7, and Eclipse but the problem persists on all of them. Thanks
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cm9 is one of the only roms that hasnt done this to me. about time for a new phone i say. x2 has been hell.
if i hadnt seen that most android phones ran MUCH better than this one, i would probably move on to another OS entirely.
i now know that paying a little bit out of pocket at upgrade time will save you HOURS and SOOO MANY headaches down the road. s4 here i come !
i honestly dont think there is a way around this issue. but i can also so that eclipse has never given me this problem. although it has plenty of its own problems as well.
are all of these texts to the same person? could it be them/their phone?
Nah it's crazy. I know of 4 different phones it has done this with, 2 iphones and 2 other droids.
I'm pretty good with troubleshooting things, but I'm not really sure what else I can do for this other than an sbf LOL.
I need my phone to do two things, at the bare minimum: make calls and text. That's it haha. This might force me to put the old X2 out to pasture if I can't fix it; because I doubt Verizon will fix it, they'll probably just charge me for a pre-owned replacement.
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Nah it's crazy. I know of 4 different phones it has done this with, 2 iphones and 2 other droids.
I'm pretty good with troubleshooting things, but I'm not really sure what else I can do for this other than an sbf LOL.
I need my phone to do two things, at the bare minimum: make calls and text. That's it haha. This might force me to put the old X2 out to pasture if I can't fix it; because I doubt Verizon will fix it, they'll probably just charge me for a pre-owned replacement.
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it made me really mad a few years ago when my mother ran over her Voyager and they sent her a refurbished phone as a replacement. the first one they sent her even had a bad esn. she cried. i raged. and i havent payed for "insurance" since. i just get a good case as my "insurance"
i guess that delayed and sometimes mis-sent text is just something we have to live with in order to enjoy technology. i cant say that i have had this issue much, if at all. unless i was running cm7. sorry about your luck sir.

A few minor issues...should I be concerned/return?

Got the Sprint Note 3 on launch day. Great phone. However, last night, I kept getting a message that said "Samsung WatchOn Has Stopped". I didn't remember turning it on, and I got this message several times. I have also had trouble getting stuff to download from the play store, but last night it finally started downloading fine. I am staying at a hotel(traveling for work), so their WiFi could be the issue there. I kept getting error 500. And I could always try removing and re adding my Google account. Last, but not least, my power button is ever so slightly crooked(power, not home). The side towards the bottom of the phone sits slightly lower than the side towards the top. Anyway, this is my first Samsung, I've always had HTC, so maybe the phone it's just built this way. Sorry to sound retentive, but the phone wasn't cheap, and I usually keep my phone's for 2+ years, do if there are any issues that warrant a return, I want to return it while I can still get a NEW replacement. Has anyone else experienced any of this? It's any of this a big deal? Is there something I'm doing wrong? Or am I being a worry way for no reason?
I too just left HTC for this phone. Taking some getting use to. If you feel that uncomfortable I would take it back...
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I too just left HTC for this phone. Taking some getting use to. If you feel that uncomfortable I would take it back...
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Well I have another week to return it. I will feel it out some more, just to be sure these aren't user errors. As for the button, I dunno what to think, but it is barely noticeable, and doesn't impact functionality at all. So, maybe I am making too much of it. Just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced these issues. I may or may not take it back to exchange it for a new one, time will tell. I had to exchange my first EVO 3D after two weeks due to constant force closes, but the second one worked like a charm for the next 2+ years.
If you have any questions about the reliability of your Device return it ASAP. You only have 14 days to exchange from ORIGINAL purchase date and it might take a few days to figure out if your replacement is also a lemon but by then 14 will have passed and you'll be relying on the carrier to fix.
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I'd return it but I am probably the most anal and ocd person youll ever meet when it comes to electronics lol. I sit here looking for issues rather than enjoying it. I hate it but that's how I am.
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nolimit06 said:
I'd return it but I am probably the most anal and ocd person youll ever meet when it comes to electronics lol. I sit here looking for issues rather than enjoying it. I hate it but that's how I am.
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Same here. I'm staring at my battery percentage more than the phone but yet it took 14 hours to kill my battery yesterday lol.
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GAPO said:
Well I have another week to return it. I will feel it out some more, just to be sure these aren't user errors. As for the button, I dunno what to think, but it is barely noticeable, and doesn't impact functionality at all. So, maybe I am making too much of it. Just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced these issues. I may or may not take it back to exchange it for a new one, time will tell. I had to exchange my first EVO 3D after two weeks due to constant force closes, but the second one worked like a charm for the next 2+ years.
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Funny you mentioned the EVO 3D, I was just thinking, had that phone came with LTE instead of Wimax I would still be using it...I loved that one more than any of the many others I have had...
The top of the phone is slightly thicker on the back due to the camera, but if you mean with the screen laying flat that could be an actual issue. As far as the play store, I know there was some issue with it a couple days ago but try clearing the cache for the play store app and if all else fails a factory reset to see if the problem persists. I came from the HTC One and I'm loving this phone, but definitely take it back if there are recurring issues.
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The top of the phone is slightly thicker on the back due to the camera, but if you mean with the screen laying flat that could be an actual issue. As far as the play store, I know there was some issue with it a couple days ago but try clearing the cache for the play store app and if all else fails a factory reset to see if the problem persists. I came from the HTC One and I'm loving this phone, but definitely take it back if there are recurring issues.
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I mean it it's uneven when looming at the BACK of the phone. When looking at the side of the phone(the top of the button), it is perfectly straight. When looking at the BACK off the phone, you can see that the button sits slightly lower on the bottom than the top. And I do mean slightly. It also presses a little more easily on the bottom, with less pressure. It doesn't feel loose or anything, and every display I have played with has had a different feel to its buttons. Some more like mine than others. I think it's because the power button Has a single point of contact, unlike the volume buttons, so most of them seem looser on one side or another...?
Got another "unfortunately, Samsung WatchOn has stopped" message this morning. Again, I didn't start this app. Probably gonna take this back for exchange.
GAPO said:
Got another "unfortunately, Samsung WatchOn has stopped" message this morning. Again, I didn't start this app. Probably gonna take this back for exchange.
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You could always try going into Application Manager and clear data/cache and see if that helps, if you are rooted install Greenify and hibernate it..
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You could always try going into Application Manager and clear data/cache and see if that helps, if you are rooted install Greenify and hibernate it..
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Did that yesterday, but have gotten the message once more since. Didn't install greenify though.
Got the phone yesterday and saw the same Watchon problem. Haven't used it yet, just setting it up. The Google Play error 500 is on Google's end but it's fixed now. The home button has some play. The rear cover can be easily removed without damaging the camera cover. So far so good, not enough annoyance to warrant a return yet/
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Hello, I'm having wi fi issues with the note 3, could anyone direct me to an xda discussion for this problem? Thanks
Backed up my pics in Dropbox and factory reset after talking to.Samsung. They claim to be unaware of any issues. Well keep an eye on it, and return it to Best Buy if issues persist.
No problems since the reset.
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