hello every one!!!!
i am proud owner of SGS from last one year.
no of times i flashed custom ROM and researched for info on internet
got almost all the information from this forum but still got some question.
i got the tutorial for setting up the development environment.
but still not got the satisfactory ans/tutorial/guide for android development.
i am not from programming background but still i am very much interested in android development and i know that with interest i can learn any thing.
i am very much interested in ROM development.i know it involves very much knowledge/patience/coding etc.
could anybody tell me what are the steps involved to develop for android platform so i can research and learn to do it.
help will be appreciated!!
hey,
other than searching on google for code sample/example, i refer to the following to answer some basic information: http://developer.android.com/index.html just one thing to note is...the code they provide on their website may have bugs ( i have run into a few myself as i was starting to code on android platform)...
You probably know this one, but maybe not
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17254660 via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816994
Hi swapk007,
Setting up an android development environment is a little complicated, so instead of trying to list the steps here, I'm going to give you some advice. This is coming from someone who also started android development about a month and a half ago, so the following advice is something I'll stand by.
If you don't have a programming background, try and tinker around with some basic Java. I've gone to school for Computer Science, so I got enough Java experience that I could jump right into Android, but it is something I would recommend to others who don't have that exposure.
Next, check out Commonsware. It is a site/service/set of online books run by a guy named Mark. I purchased the books back when I started and they have been HUGELY helpful. He explains in detail how you should set up your development environment, and then walks you through the different parts of the development process. Furthermore, he does "office hour" chats once or twice a week, so if there is something extra complicated that you can't figure out you can talk with him. He is really friendly and helpful.
Once you get a handle on developing some apps, be they basic or advanced, then you'll be able to get into Rom development.
If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.
fastindy said:
hey,
other than searching on google for code sample/example, i refer to the following to answer some basic information: http://developer.android.com/index.html just one thing to note is...the code they provide on their website may have bugs ( i have run into a few myself as i was starting to code on android platform)...
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Janzomaster said:
You probably know this one, but maybe not
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17254660 via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816994
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bkensey said:
Hi swapk007,
Setting up an android development environment is a little complicated, so instead of trying to list the steps here, I'm going to give you some advice. This is coming from someone who also started android development about a month and a half ago, so the following advice is something I'll stand by.
If you don't have a programming background, try and tinker around with some basic Java. I've gone to school for Computer Science, so I got enough Java experience that I could jump right into Android, but it is something I would recommend to others who don't have that exposure.
Next, check out Commonsware. It is a site/service/set of online books run by a guy named Mark. I purchased the books back when I started and they have been HUGELY helpful. He explains in detail how you should set up your development environment, and then walks you through the different parts of the development process. Furthermore, he does "office hour" chats once or twice a week, so if there is something extra complicated that you can't figure out you can talk with him. He is really friendly and helpful.
Once you get a handle on developing some apps, be they basic or advanced, then you'll be able to get into Rom development.
If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.
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thank you all...will definitely go through all this n reply..
I´m not a android developer, sometimes i do some OOP in C#, and I would suggest you should start coding some apps (games, toys etc.), maybe just for PC´s, before even start thinking about developing custom rom´s - just start reading JDE stuff and if you finaly know what your doing, you will not have to ask for thinks like "how to code ROM´s", but just start coding...
...would you start building a house, if you even didn´t know how to do a wall?
will definately do it tomrof!!!
Basically I'm looking to.start making some apps, mainly for fun but depends how I get on.
I've had a go with the app inventor which has given me an idea of how the apps work but it seems slightly limited. I have made some of the tutorial apps and had a look around here for advice but can't find a thread.
What is the best software to use?
where is the best place to learn the code for the software or possibly a forum/thread with some tutorials?
I see a lot of people using eclipse to I'm thinking about trying this but most advice seems to be on how to set the program up.
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Sorry if there is a thread but I couldn't find it!
I would use eclipse with android plugin, I would also start as an adw themer. You can search online to get the eclipse development software on their site. The plugin can be found on the site.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/eclipse-adt.html
If you have any question during setup, I may be able to help! Feel free to send me a message!
Hope this helps!
Also you will need the sdk.
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I find it easier to set up tadp (Tegra Android Development Platform) It includes Eclipse(Preconfigured with android adt plugin), SDK, NDK, cygwyn tegra profiler (for tegra devices) and lots of other tools. A sign up will be required though.
link: http://developer.nvidia.com
For Code syntax I would say basic C/C++/Java and go to http://developer.android.com
cool!
I also want to get into making apps but i guess you have to have a formal background in some sort of programming or the like?
If you are a former VB programmer or C#, then you can develop with C# and .Net
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2198
Well, if you are talking about developing for android, go to androids home website. developer.android.com. That's a start. You will need to have some basic programming skills. Learning programming and android at the same time will be difficult. I use eclipse. I was more use to netbeans and even though they had a plugin for netbeans, there was no reason for me to stay with netbeans. It was an easy transition from netbeans to eclipse though. Anyway, it'll take time before things start making sense. There will be moments where you want to put your fist through your screen and moments of excitement when you've made your first penny. Take your time and develop high quality apps cause you know why? High quality apps dont fail, they always get the downloads even if there's a thousand similar apps, your app will be part of the thousand apps that get downloaded, unlike the 100 thousand apps that are similar but are of low quality.
I use java, by the way...
I dont know much you know about programming but this is what im following right now it is a little bit complicated and he doesent explain very well the base java stuff but other than thats its a great tutorial series. started watching it about 10 days ago right now im on the 100th tutorial and i dont feel like giving up yet, give it a try and see how it works out.
http://www.youtube.com/course?list=EC2F07DBCDCC01493A
ales47 said:
I dont know much you know about programming but this is what im following right now it is a little bit complicated and he doesent explain very well the base java stuff but other than thats its a great tutorial series. started watching it about 10 days ago right now im on the 100th tutorial and i dont feel like giving up yet, give it a try and see how it works out.
http://www.youtube.com/course?list=EC2F07DBCDCC01493A
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Yes, its a great series. But he tries to explain Java little bit on the go, but it maybe difficult or confusing for people who haven't seen Java at all, or haven't done some simple basic programs on Java. But even though, he explains it shortly as he could.
So what should be done is, follow the Oracle Java Tutorials on the side as you go through those Android tutorials. Oracle has a great documentation on Java, and its a great deal breaker to make you understand Java. Anyways a great devotion of time should be arranged for all these.
Hello All,
I am a newbie and amature android learner. It all started copule of months back. I work in healthcare industry and I see lot of potential of mobile usage in coming years and hence started to give app development a try. I am not with backgroung of computer science or having programming knowledge ut I could find this thread very interesting to start with. kudos to XDA
Hey guys, sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a quick question.
I'm currently in university studying psychology, but have the opportunity to take an introduction computer programming course that would count towards the degree and fill a requirement.
Anyways, one of the languages covered is C++. I'm just curious if this would be a first step to learn to develop android apps.
Thanks for taking the time to read.. It's greatly appreciated
kilometers4 said:
Hey guys, sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a quick question.
I'm currently in university studying psychology, but have the opportunity to take an introduction computer programming course that would count towards the degree and fill a requirement.
Anyways, one of the languages covered is C++. I'm just curious if this would be a first step to learn to develop android apps.
Thanks for taking the time to read.. It's greatly appreciated
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once you learn a language, the others can be different for their syntax, but the logic behind is almost the same. So learn the basic of programming and you will be able to program android. C++ is similar to Java, if you want to code in Java (the best way to code for android imho)
kilometers4 said:
Hey guys, sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a quick question.
I'm currently in university studying psychology, but have the opportunity to take an introduction computer programming course that would count towards the degree and fill a requirement.
Anyways, one of the languages covered is C++. I'm just curious if this would be a first step to learn to develop android apps.
Thanks for taking the time to read.. It's greatly appreciated
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As C++ comes under the Object Oriented Programming (OOP) concept, its still good because Java also follows the OOP concept. As for developing android apps, Java is the main language used for coding by most developers. It is said that any language could be used though, but not much clue regarding it.
In your case as a first step, learning C++ is no harm because it hooks you up into the basic programming principles and teaches you how the flow works, if you are coming from a non-computer science background.
ciao99 said:
once you learn a language, the others can be different for their syntax, but the logic behind is almost the same. So learn the basic of programming and you will be able to program android. C++ is similar to Java, if you want to code in Java (the best way to code for android imho)
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Thank you so much for responding.
My only worry is that I have never even looked at a language, so I'm kind of intimidated by it. Would an introduction class give me the building blocks to learn more or would I need to take further courses do you think?
Thanks for taking the time
coolsandie said:
As C++ comes under the Object Oriented Programming (OOP) concept, its still good because Java also follows the OOP concept. As for developing android apps, Java is the main language used for coding by most developers. It is said that any language could be used though, but not much clue regarding it.
In your case as a first step, learning C++ is no harm because it hooks you up into the basic programming principles and teaches you how the flow works, if you are coming from a non-computer science background.
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Thanks so much.
coolsandie said:
As C++ comes under the Object Oriented Programming (OOP) concept, its still good because Java also follows the OOP concept. As for developing android apps, Java is the main language used for coding by most developers. It is said that any language could be used though, but not much clue regarding it.
In your case as a first step, learning C++ is no harm because it hooks you up into the basic programming principles and teaches you how the flow works, if you are coming from a non-computer science background.
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:good: you're right
kilometers4 said:
Thank you so much for responding.
My only worry is that I have never even looked at a language, so I'm kind of intimidated by it. Would an introduction class give me the building blocks to learn more or would I need to take further courses do you think?
Thanks for taking the time
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what is needed to learn programming is practicing a lot! the course can give you the right way to think as a programmer, but i think only practicing and experimenting will make you a real programmer.
ciao99 said:
:good: you're right
what is needed to learn programming is practicing a lot! the course can give you the right way to think as a programmer, but i think only practicing and experimenting will make you a real programmer.
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So it sounds as though it would be good to take this course than. Thanks to both of you for reassuring my decision. :beer:
If anyone who reads this wants a tutorial on Java, I found a thread that has a whole class with it broken down into pieces for you to learn.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28321602
Enjoy
AND for those who have already started with the Android tutorials, here's a tip. The Eclipse Android emulator seems to be a bit slow (it may be annoying for starters like me!) Check out this link that might help:
www.andreybutov.com/2011/10/14/how-to-set-up-a-faster-android-emulator/
Good Luck! :good:
kilometers4 said:
So it sounds as though it would be good to take this course than. Thanks to both of you for reassuring my decision. :beer:
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I find its good to take a programming course even if you aren't going to program apps. Programming is basically problem solving. If you are a good problem solver you will probably be a good programmer and if your not a great problem solver taking a programming class will improve your problem solving skills.
Programming languages are like any other language you just have to learn the basics and the more advanced stuff will come easy. Its like Spanish, once you know what endings to put on the words you just need to learn the word for whatever it is you want to say. In programming once you understand how to put code together (which a basic programming class should teach you) its just learning what word to use to do what you want.
Acela1230 said:
I find its good to take a programming course even if you aren't going to program apps. Programming is basically problem solving.
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Well said, thanks.
There's also a big incentive when you do a course. When it can affect your GPA
ales47 said:
I dont know much you know about programming but this is what im following right now it is a little bit complicated and he doesent explain very well the base java stuff but other than thats its a great tutorial series. started watching it about 10 days ago right now im on the 100th tutorial and i dont feel like giving up yet, give it a try and see how it works out.
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Just wanna say thanks! Ive been reading (about halfway through) 'The Beginners Guide to Java Programming for Dummies' and just when I started to get a headache, I found this thread, and this Youtube tutorial is helping connect the dots to put it all together in my cluttered head.
Hey all! I'm really sorry, I usually only lurk/look around this site, so I don't know if this is the right way to ask for stuff-
To be specific, i'm starting a company project (I run a non-profit organization) that helps people out around the world. I'm trying to change android OS to only do specific things (starting a specific app when you turn it on, etc). I want it to basically be stripped down to only do specific things. If someone wants to help out, can you point me to a place to understand how the OS structure is set up? I saw the programming page, but if it's no trouble, i'd like a little direction. If someone could PM me, that'd be cool, or respond here. I know most of you do this as a hobby, but a small payment for some direction wouldn't be out of the question.
I'm really sorry for the weird request, but i'm just starting this and thought i'd ask here first.
Thanks!
Hey guys, I am a new guy here. I am wondering roughly how long does it take to be able to make your own first and usable android application? Not just a 'Hello World' application, but one that you can actually lol....
Can anybody please assist me with a few questions I have.
I do not have any cash to sink into any college course, and I have very very limited experience with programming in any language. I very quickly delved into Visual Basics back in the yahoo messenger booter days. but all i really did was copy source codes and edit them and release them as my own (I know, noobish) but I was young lol.
1. Is there a website that i can start learning java and android languages?
2. what all applications will i need to get started? I am in the process of installing the android studio application right now.
3. does anybody have any suggestions or tips before i get started?
4. what websites will help me the most?
5. is it only java and android language i need to learn? or are there other languages that i must learn to get past the beginners stage?
I appreciate everyone that assists me. I have always given up in the past when it comes to learning something like this, but this time i really would like to succeed and prove to myself that i can do it if i put my mind to it.
Hope everyone has a wonderful day, and i will see everyone around the forums, as i will most likely be frequenting them to learn more things and to interact with other programmers and people in the android world!
Have a great day,
FelonyGaming