Battery Question - HTC EVO 3D

Could someone tell me what the real deal in on Conditioning your battery and wiping battery stats. I have read conflicting information all over XDA. Some say you should condition and wipe stats others say it is the worst thing possible. I just want to know if I should wipe battery stats after flashing a rom. Thanks

basically what happens is, when you load a new rom you are leaving left over memory from the previous rom. so there is a mix up. the battery has a memory and once it is conditioned for a long period of time it leaves a footprint. so when you wipe stats in recovery, you are getting rid of that foot print from the previous rom. and basically starting fresh. so what you want to do to get the full potential out of your battery, drain to clean and then reload it that way it leaves a fresh imprint of your rom on it. trust me, it works. some of the things you have to do when you are a flashoholic. haha! try using this app, it works great and prevents you from having to go into recovery to wipe.
i use it all the time! very straight forward app.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration

PatrickHuey said:
basically what happens is, when you load a new rom you are leaving left over memory from the previous rom. so there is a mix up. the battery has a memory and once it is conditioned for a long period of time it leaves a footprint. so when you wipe stats in recovery, you are getting rid of that foot print from the previous rom. and basically starting fresh. so what you want to do to get the full potential out of your battery, drain to clean and then reload it that way it leaves a fresh imprint of your rom on it. trust me, it works. some of the things you have to do when you are a flashoholic. haha! try using this app, it works great and prevents you from having to go into recovery to wipe.
i use it all the time! very straight forward app.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
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So far after I deleted the battery stats, I went from 100% to 15% in 6 hours to 100% to 15% in 12 hours with the same amout of usage. This did the trick, thanks.

Isn't using this app the same as going into recovery and wiping battery stats?

DarkManX4lf said:
Isn't using this app the same as going into recovery and wiping battery stats?
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It is but it just is a lot quicker to do so.
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[Q] Battery Life on Nero V3

I have been looking through forum after forum about the battery life on this rom, it has been dropping 1 percent every 2 minutes or so and is about to be dead. Does this sound like a battery problem or should i just recondition it. I just wanna know whether to buy a new battery, get a new rom or what?
Ive been having the same problem, ive already tryed the reconditioning process but i still lose battery very fast. But the only time i dont lose alot is when its on standby.
my battery is outstanding on v3. Id reset and and try again, or check your apps, something has to be up. :u
What do you mean reset? Like back to stock
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treyvaporizer said:
What do you mean reset? Like back to stock
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I think he means go into recovery and clean cache and dalvik cache. Maybe even do a factory reset (however that will clear out your applications). Just make sure you have good backups before doing a factory reset.
That never hurts to odin back to stock just to rule out the ghosts and goblins. to me, it sounds like an app issue. How many widgets are you using that need to refresh? How many programs are open and active when you first start your phone? Are you using a task killer? Are you actually using the phone actively, or is it on "standby"? Answer a few of these to give us a better picture of your usage.
My battery life has been stellar.
EricDET said:
My battery life has been stellar.
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thanks for the wonderful help and awesome insight..
Mine has been pretty good... I would recommend what swehes said.
I got pretty good standby time, but when I use the phone (such as calling, browsing web), battery drains super fast. I can have it last more than 4 days with light usage, but less than 10 hours with normal usage (no games, only texting, calling and browsing web).
Either do the process people are calling "recondition your battery" (charge fully, drain fully, charge fully, then immediately wipe your battery stats), or charge your battery fully once on an external stand-alone charger, then wipe your battery stats.
The battery profile in the stats file with the ROM just doesn't match your real battery's performance characteristics -- low charge point, high charge point, usage curves, etc. ... so it thinks it has juice when it doesn't, or it may shut down when you should still have juice left, etc.
My battery life has improved with every day. At first, when I cleared the battery stats in CWR, the phone lasted me around 36 hours. However, the day after it could not hold for more than 16 hours, but it has been increasing and now stays around 26 hours with my moderate to heavy use.
EDIT: Freezing Media Hub and the device management service in TB has definitely contributed to the prolonged battery life, I should probably remove it all together.
MV10 said:
Either do the process people are calling "recondition your battery" (charge fully, drain fully, charge fully, then immediately wipe your battery stats), or charge your battery fully once on an external stand-alone charger, then wipe your battery stats.
The battery profile in the stats file with the ROM just doesn't match your real battery's performance characteristics -- low charge point, high charge point, usage curves, etc. ... so it thinks it has juice when it doesn't, or it may shut down when you should still have juice left, etc.
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what do you mean by a extrenal stand-alone charger? Like the charger that came with it right? sorry noobie question
lqaddict said:
My battery life has improved with every day. At first, when I cleared the battery stats in CWR, the phone lasted me around 36 hours. However, the day after it could not hold for more than 16 hours, but it has been increasing and now stays around 26 hours with my moderate to heavy use.
EDIT: Freezing Media Hub and the device management service in TB has definitely contributed to the prolonged battery life, I should probably remove it all together.
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Can you mind telling me how to freeze media hub and device management service?
aaronhiep said:
what do you mean by a extrenal stand-alone charger? Like the charger that came with it right? sorry noobie question
Can you mind telling me how to freeze media hub and device management service?
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If you use Titanium Backup (I highly recommend spending ~$5.00 for a full Pro version) you can freeze the apps via the Batch operation.
lqaddict said:
If you use Titanium Backup (I highly recommend spending ~$5.00 for a full Pro version) you can freeze the apps via the Batch operation.
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Is this safe to freeze both media hub and device management?
Well i just conditioned my battery and that didnt help. So i'll try wiping the caches and then if that doesnt work then i will odin back to stock and fresh install it.
And i only have weather, the messaging widget that tells me how many messages i have and thats about it
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Ive also set my email never to refresh because i dont really use it that much anyway
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treyvaporizer said:
I have been looking through forum after forum about the battery life on this rom, it has been dropping 1 percent every 2 minutes or so and is about to be dead. Does this sound like a battery problem or should i just recondition it. I just wanna know whether to buy a new battery, get a new rom or what?
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Gotta be an app problem, I can leave WiFi on all night and only drop 10% or so.
treyvaporizer said:
Well i just conditioned my battery and that didnt help. So i'll try wiping the caches and then if that doesnt work then i will odin back to stock and fresh install it.
And i only have weather, the messaging widget that tells me how many messages i have and thats about it
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reconditioning the battery is good to do but only gives a minor difference in how long it takes to drain. I already know it's an app problem. Open you're settings, go to applications, and select running services. What do you see?
Could it be device management?
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HOW TO: Solve Battery Life Issues

***NOTICE***
The ROM Manager version of CWM does NOT wipe battery stats properly, as with many other things. What you need is jt1134's version of CWM that is all happy and works and stuff.
You can find his happy CWM here. And here. And also here.
And here.
Big thanks to LegionTHEFecalExcretion for the heads up on that.
***END NOTICE***
NOTE: On current DL30 and EB01 ROMs, you will not see battery life like you did on DL09 with undervolted kernels. There are NO undervolted kernels as of yet, everything kernel wise with Froyo ROMs in very much stock. These steps will improve your battery life in comparison to when you flashed Froyo, but you are not going to see spectacular changes in battery life up to what you were getting with undervolted DL09, etc. It's just not possible until we get undervolted kernels and Froyo matures for our device, development wise.
Hi everyone, I've been seeing a lot of threads about bad battery life, whether switching to Kaoscinate, Vanilla, or DL30. Stop it! Just kidding. There is a simple process everyone should follow when switching between different enough ROMs, like AOSP, CM6 and TW Eclair and Froyo. This is how you retrain your battery.
1. Charge your battery to 100% (when it gets there, let it SIT there, your phone is NOT reporting correctly).
2. Reboot to Recovery and Advanced -> Wipe Battery Stats.
3. Reboot, and use your phone until it is VERY low (5-10%, you can let it die if you want).
4. Charge your phone back to 100%
5. (Optional) Power down, then power on phone. (Thanks goes to BrwnSuperman for this suggestion, give it a try!)
Your battery issues should be solved. This needs to be done every once in a while, especially when switching between different ROMs and OS versions.
User dalrym05 posted this alternate method for retraining the battery on page 4 as well, so I thought I would share it here in the OP. I'm posting this as a USE AT YOUR OWN RISK method, as I have not tested it, and am not quite sure what the *228 steps for it actually accomplish and have to do with retraining the OS battery reporting, so I'm leaving it quoted to dalrym05 for the time being.
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Here were my steps to better battery.
1.*228 option 1
2.*228 option 2
3. Run battery completely dead to 0%
4. Plug in and boot immediately into cwm
5. Wipe battery stats and dalvik cache
6. Reboot and let charge fully before unplugging
7. Completely discharge again and fully charge again.
After this you should notice a very nice increase in battery as I did. My battery life is back up to par with eclair.
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NOTE: I did edit his post to make it a little more clear. I'm slightly anal retentive that way.
HybridByNature had an excellent suggestion on page 4. If people have good tips and tricks for maintaining good battery life, and they are easily reproducible, then I will gladly add them to the OP here. What works for you?
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This might also be a good place to add tips & tricks to extending battery life.
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-Close programs that you aren't using.
-Don't leave your camera or navigation running in the background.
-Turn off WiFi & GPS etc when you aren't using them.
-Don't run your screen at full brightness if you can help it.
-Figure out what uses more battery life than other things:
Pandora, internet browsing, downloading, camera/camcorder, Angry Birds etc.
If you are rooted, try and narrow it down to the best kernel/theme for your situation. I've found that I have better battery with a non-voodoo kernel but the performance increase is worth it so that's a trade-off that I make.
Let's hear from our readers: What is working for you?
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Would not surprise me if this is all it is. I have turned my phone off at 5% for an hour and turned it back on without charging and then it showed 45%. I know when batteries are low letting them sit a little bit can help, but not that much.
It is just being reported inaccurately by the OS.
This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
Syn Ack said:
This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
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Yes, but not as a thread, it gets posted in everyone else's "Why does my battery life suck ass" threads, so I made this so maybe people would see it and try it before posting another useless question thread in Development.
Definitely works though. Did it yesterday. Good post. It has been posted in other threads ... but I think we all know people don't read through everything very often.
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I have the battery charger and 3 batteries, I always run my battery low and leave it in the charger for a day.
I did this last night and it didn't work too well for me.
Also, when I go to wipe battery stats in the recovery, it doesn't tell me if it wiped or not, just goes back to the advanced menu.
And also, should I be concerned that when I cold boot into the recovery, it doesn't appear to be CWM? It says Android recovery...I know I have CWM recovery installed.
Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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miguel11691 said:
Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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Wow same here..I just took mine off the charger bout 10 minutes ago and it's at 95% now. I guess I'm gonna let the battery run completely dead and charge it and see what happens.
I did something similar. I charged to 100% while it was on, removed from charger then powered off. When phone was off I plugged charger back in and waited til it was at 100% then unplugged again and powered on. Waited until phone was completely on then unplugged again and connected to charger. Waited til it was at 100% and while still plugged in at 100% booted into recovery and wiped battery stats. Then rebooted phone into OS and unplugged. I had tried this previously with DL09 and it helped a little. Last night I wanted to see how my battery would drain after doing this. With WiFi on and I got about 10 emails during the night, from 8:30pm to 6:00am I lost only 13%!!! Previously I would have lost from 35 to 40%. ymmv
jv
my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
miguel11691 said:
my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
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Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
ataranine said:
Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
Syn Ack said:
Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
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Yeah looks like I'll be going back to DL09.
ataranine said:
Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
jv
johnnyv5 said:
Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
jv
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
ataranine said:
yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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I was pulling my hair out trying to figure this out too. It seems to have solved itself. Right now it is showing 47% usage. Sorry I couldn't help.
Jv
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This is a proven technique, and it takes patience. Seeing the battery drop from 100% down to 95 or 96% after unplugging is normal behavior. I've done this already. Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 1% battery. If you're too impatient to take the time to do this, that's your loss. You'll see the battery life "improve" over the course of a few days as the reporting gets more and more accurate.
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I agree with supplysidejesus. This is a standard practice and should be done with each major rom or kernel install. This leak hasn't been put long enough for most of us to know what our expected battery life will be yet. Give it a few days for your phones to adjust.
ataranine said:
yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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try disabling gps in the notifications, that worked for me, but once i turn gps on again, it will drive up to a high percentage.

Close thread please thanks...

Here is something I just noticed I sometimes wipe my battery stats once I get a full charge on a new rom. I always wipe and flash using fastboot boot recovery.img.
Roms always run fine smooth no issues. But for some reason if I go and wipe my battery stats after a full charge my gauge will lock up and the battery chart doesn't work anymore...
Even a reflash and wipe doesn't help. What would cause this issue?
Im on hboot 1.5
I know back when I would just flash the boot.img then the rom.. I never had issues wipeing my battery stats....
So anyone else have this issue?
I know folks say you don't need to but some times you do need to if you flash a rom and for some reason your battery gauge sticks at 99% green light... Will never hit 100%..
it eventually will hit 100%... you have to charge it while the phone is off just once and it will green light while off... then boot up and charge again and it will hit 100...
also, what exactly do you mean by the battery chart??
it shouldn't have an issue because your voltage/charge is monitored by the kernel... kind of an odd little anomaly to be honest.
cobraboy85 said:
it eventually will hit 100%... you have to charge it while the phone is off just once and it will green light while off... then boot up and charge again and it will hit 100...
also, what exactly do you mean by the battery chart??
it shouldn't have an issue because your voltage/charge is monitored by the kernel... kind of an odd little anomaly to be honest.
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The chart graph like thing in about phone battery and that top graph thingy..
Well damn I just reflashed the other method and still nothing is workin in the graph chart thing...
reaper24 said:
The chart graph like thing in about phone battery and that top graph thingy..
Well damn I just reflashed the other method and still nothing is workin in the graph chart thing...
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here's the thing, the reason why you are not seeing anything in your battery usage is because that's exactly what the batterystats.bin file is - it is a data dump of statistics... what has been using your battery, for how long, all kinds of mathematical outputs of screen on usage, awake time, apps, so on and so forth... converts all of that into a percentage and that's what you are seeing in your settings/battery usage.
so, accordingly, when you delete batterystats.bin, all of those statistics are gone and you have nothing to display. after a charge cycle or so, you will see that information displayed again.
again, batterystats.bin is simply the statistics of what has been using the battery. has nothing to do with the phone's actually ability to display the correct percentage, get a full charge, etc... that is ALL the Linux kernel which is your power management for the device.
wiping batterystats is truly unnecessary. does nothing for your battery life, and flashing a ROM then wiping battery stats is useless too because when you flash a ROM you wipe data... and the batterystats.bin is found in /data/system... so effectively you are wiping battery stats every time you flash a ROM.
but to go back to the OP... not sure why your percentage is not being displayed correctly... sounds like a ROM issue.
cobraboy85 said:
here's the thing, the reason why you are not seeing anything in your battery usage is because that's exactly what the batterystats.bin file is - it is a data dump of statistics... what has been using your battery, for how long, all kinds of mathematical outputs of screen on usage, awake time, apps, so on and so forth... converts all of that into a percentage and that's what you are seeing in your settings/battery usage.
so, accordingly, when you delete batterystats.bin, all of those statistics are gone and you have nothing to display. after a charge cycle or so, you will see that information displayed again.
again, batterystats.bin is simply the statistics of what has been using the battery. has nothing to do with the phone's actually ability to display the correct percentage, get a full charge, etc... that is ALL the Linux kernel which is your power management for the device.
wiping batterystats is truly unnecessary. does nothing for your battery life, and flashing a ROM then wiping battery stats is useless too because when you flash a ROM you wipe data... and the batterystats.bin is found in /data/system... so effectively you are wiping battery stats every time you flash a ROM.
but to go back to the OP... not sure why your percentage is not being displayed correctly... sounds like a ROM issue.
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Ya I pulled the battery let the phone discharge and put it back in finally got everything working again ... I was on nightlys a few days ago and flashed one last night that was when I had some funky issues with the battery gauge after doing a wipe.
I only do a wipe if the gauge gets dicked up...
Anyways thanks man... Hopefully I fixed this sucker...
yeah, definitely was a ROM issue...
hope it's worked out and no problem man. hope all that rambling made sense, haha.
cobraboy85 said:
yeah, definitely was a ROM issue...
hope it's worked out and no problem man. hope all that rambling made sense, haha.
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Ya I think it was either rom related or my sleepy ass screwed something up..... damn been a long night....
Anyways thanks man,,
for sure. no reason to close thread tho... might provide some useful information for somebody else sometime

Battery calibration

What application is everyone using? I'm getting poor battery with 0.2.0 beta and I used one and it still persists.
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Charge to full, boot into CWM and wipe battery stats.
Use until device dies from dead battery, recharge to 100%. Use as normal for a couple days. It should get better.
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Google search "wiping battery stats myth debunked" or click http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
A google android engineer spoke very candidly on the subject saying it does absolutely nothing.
damn its all a myth ha I read that, good find.
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yea read it was a myth a while ago
Flashed cm9 today and now my battery life is horrible, when it it's on the charger it takes forever to charge.
I had that problem also so I wiped everything and formatted everything and Redlands everything starting with cm9 v 0.1.0 2d , then flashed cm9 v 0.2.0 . Everything great
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myth
maybe a myth and from everything i have read (that article included) it seems to be. but im ok with the placebo affect or whatever bc i at least FEEL like it has helped since i did it after getting on cm9 beta 0.2.0 or whatev. not on beta 0.3 battery has been sucked hard as all get out, but such is life.
I have a question/comment about this. When a ROM is flashed I always wipe and format /data, /system, /cache, /davlik-cache, and factory reset. At this time I power down and recharge although the recharge may not matter as the lowest I've been was 85%. After recharge I boot into CWM and wipe/factory reset again then allow the phone to reboot. Isn't the batterystats.bin file in one of those places I wiped/formatted?
Once it's booted I just turn off and power up again then activate. Out of all the different ROMs I have tried this usually works very well. There was only one time my battery life was poor after flashing and I tried a battery wipe app and it still didn't help. I finally attributed it to the ROM and flashed a different one. Following the same process the new ROM was installed and battery life is great again. Did this yesterday flashing Rocko unlocked 3.0. After 4 to 4-1/2 hours of heavy use, when I say heavy I mean heavy, I am still at nearly 70% battery. If it works the way it looks to, I'll be getting at least 10-12 hours on a charge, probably more.
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Thanks for this guys helped me out
Calibration
So what you are saying since I have a Photon with an extended battery even rooting it won't calibrate the battery. It sits at 1% for hours. Had an HTC prior and didn't have this problem. Waste of money getting an extended battery when you don't know when it is going to die on you.
Minkota said:
So what you are saying since I have a Photon with an extended battery even rooting it won't calibrate the battery. It sits at 1% for hours. Had an HTC prior and didn't have this problem. Waste of money getting an extended battery when you don't know when it is going to die on you.
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Not at all. What I'm saying is I personally don't use ine as I wipe battery stats as part of ny flashing process and do my first boot on a new rom with my battery at 100%. That works for me.
If you're switching to an extended battery you may need to wipe battery stats. This can be done with a battery calibration app or from within CWM, if you've unlocked and installed a custom recovery.
BTW: Rooting will allow you to install and run a batt cal app but rooting alone will not calibrate your battery.
I'm a MoPho-er
FernBch said:
Not at all. What I'm saying is I personally don't use ine as I wipe battery stats as part of ny flashing process and do my first boot on a new rom with my battery at 100%. That works for me.
If you're switching to an extended battery you may need to wipe battery stats. This can be done with a battery calibration app or from within CWM, if you've unlocked and installed a custom recovery.
BTW: Rooting will allow you to install and run a batt cal app but rooting alone will not calibrate your battery.
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So I will be learning more about rooting. But I thought i saw where others who had extended batteries that rooted with calibration apps their Photon still didn't read correctly. I could be misunderstanding something. Newbie here.

Need help refreshing device for better battery

I've been flashing left and right trying to find a ROM worth sticking with. And my battery is being abused big time. Percentage after percentage with just texting and things. Does anyone have any suggestions on cm10 ROMs or other ROMs that have the theme manger option that don't eat up the battery? And I know that wiping battery stats in cwm is helpful but I wanna refresh my battery. Can I have some help? Thanks
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Try sticking to one ROM for a few days. Typically takes a few charging cycles to settle in. Also, if you can let it drain down fairly low then let it charge completely before taking off the charger for a few days. This will usually get the ROM and battery to sink better together.
shuka325 said:
Try sticking to one ROM for a few days. Typically takes a few charging cycles to settle in. Also, if you can let it drain down fairly low then let it charge completely before taking off the charger for a few days. This will usually get the ROM and battery to sink better together.
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Thanks and,
See the thing is I like the cm10.1 ROMs. But which one would u recommend for me to flash and in which steps are best to have better results from the rom ? Wipe/data cache and then system ?
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ALWAYS wipe caches and format system when changing ROMs.

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