Hey,
I had a Samsung Galaxy 3 and now have moved to the Razr. So, I had CWM installed on the sammy.
Now what is this bootstrap? Is it the same as CWM? If not, what's the difference?
I would kindly request one of the mods to please write a guide to installing the recovery.
Also, please do separate the Droid RAZR and RAZR XT910 forum if possible.
Razr Bootstrap Recovery is a apk that u install on your rooted phone that will let u boot into CWM. Do to the fact that we have a locked bootloader. At the moment we cant overide the factory recovery or it isnt smart to. Just download the program nd install it like a normal app. Once u have it install u can open the program "razr bootstrap recovery"
So when u open it u will see two buttons one says bootstrap recovery and the other is reboot recovery.
Click bootstrap recovery first, then at that moment the app will ask for superuser permissions. Say yes when it comes up.
Then when it finishes bootstrap u should see a text box pop up and say sucessful.
Now u can hit the reboot recovery button and it will reboot your phone into CWM.
This program will only boot u into CWM that one time. So u have to go into the app nd hit each button each time u want to boot into CWM.
Sorry for bad grammer and spelling
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cheekrox said:
Also, please do separate the Droid RAZR and RAZR XT910 forum if possible.
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Agree, that will be great if it happen
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Also, please do separate the Droid RAZR and RAZR XT910 forum if possible.
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What's the difference between the Droid razr and the razr XT910?
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As we haven't still got an unlockable bootloader, we can't flash a custom recovery to the recovery partition.
A recovery image contains:
1. Recovery's Kernel
2. Recovery /system (Android recovery)
The bootstrap recovery will reboot your phone to a CWM recovery that is working with the normal Android system's kernel, it is "bootstrapped" after the Android's early boot, differently from a normal recovery that simply has nothing to do with Android system.
In less words, the bootstrap recovery isn't a real recovery and if you **** up your Android system you won't be able to access it.
A bootloader solution is coming with the ICS update in late dec / early jan, so don't worry: we'll soon have a decent and real recovery, too.
...And I think it's better to have the forums like that: a lot of work done for the GSM version works on the CDMA one, too. For example, my WebTopMOD, my eprj_MCP governor etc...
If we would have two sections, I would never know that some of my work works even of CDMA RAZR as I would never doublepost it into the other section.
tgeigel said:
What's the difference between the Droid razr and the razr XT910?
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Droid razr is the american version that comes with 4g,the xt910 is the european version of the razr that just has 3g+.
i think those are the only differences but feel free to correct me if i am wrong.
I think the RAZR XT910 has an unlocked BL. As Moto had promised to unlock the BL depending on the carrier preference. But here in India, the carrier has no say...so i guess its safe to assume that its unlocked.
Also, would it just be better to wait for a real recov then? I mean, its not like we're flashing custom ROMs on our RAZRs anyways now....
if you guys check the rootzwiki forum BMc and droidtheory put together a boot into clockwork perm...it'll do wonders until we get fast boot files...I put a script for noobs on there as well to run if confused or stuck
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11196-te...from-pb/page__pid__281296__st__60#entry281296
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Hell yeah spread the word. I have it running. Its a good safety net. Be safe flashalholic.
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Hi every 1 I did not search and don't know if any1 has posted this but on my Droidx2 I found that u do not need the use the bootstrap app to get into cwm recovery if ur phone is off and u plugg it into AC power and when the Motorola screen comes on unplug wait for a few seconds and plug AC power back in and it will boot into cwm recovery.
hope this helps if no1 new this lol
Yes pwr off & plug in = cwr as long as recovery mode is set. Rebooting no.
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Hi every 1 I did not search and don't know if any1 has posted this but on my Droidx2 I found that u do not need the use the bootstrap app to get into cwm recovery if ur phone is off and u plugg it into AC power and when the Motorola screen comes on unplug wait for a few seconds and plug AC power back in and it will boot into cwm recovery.
hope this helps if no1 new this lol
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u don't need to unplug when u see the moto logo
if recovery mode is set all u need to do is
power off and plug in as said above
it does this because our recovery hijacks charge only mode, its the only way we can boot into BSR at this time
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sen1366 said:
Hi every 1 I did not search and don't know if any1 has posted this but on my Droidx2 I found that u do not need the use the bootstrap app to get into cwm recovery if ur phone is off and u plugg it into AC power and when the Motorola screen comes on unplug wait for a few seconds and plug AC power back in and it will boot into cwm recovery.
hope this helps if no1 new this lol
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Note: To clarify potential confusion... The BSR (Boot Strap Recovery) is NOT the same as CWM or CWMR (ClockWorkMod or ClockWorkModRecovery). PLEASE use the correct terms to avoid confusing people. Thank you! (Sorry, pet peeve. )
Ciao!
Okay, call me stupid here, but I thought CWM didn't work with the X2? I saw another post that explained how to do it, but it confused the living hell out of me!
What are the advantages of using CWM over BSR or am I reading something wrong here?
Thanks!
To me it (ours 2.5.1.8) is a hacked version never written to be installed by an apk. They all come from cwm. Once you are in cwr you can flash a different "cwr".zip.
Whether it successfully restores your bu ONLY Tenfar has hacked one that works for the (locked BL versions of the phones) Atrix, Photon and the Dx2 and they are all the same "cwr".zip!
Ibolski are you referring to my "wish" post?
It's CWM ported to our phones. Nothing more, nothing less. It's the same thing except we have to connect our phones to a wall charger. Otherwise, once you're in there, it's the same. Looks the same, the whole works. I have CWM on a couple devices here and there isn't any difference. Perhaps some of the options don't work for the X2 but, it's still the same thing. Can you tell I'm trying to tell you that it's the same?
Thanks for the responses. I'll stick with BSR then. It just seems people were so gung-ho about CWMR and I can't see why as there isn't a clear advantage to it over BSR.
I just had an idea. How about, instead of replacing charge mode, replace stock recovery and add an option in CWM to go into the stock recovery if needed. I can't do any of it but if a developer wants the challenge.
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To me it (ours 2.5.1.8) is a hacked version never written to be installed by an apk. They all come from cwm. Once you are in cwr you can flash a different "cwr".zip.
Whether it successfully restores your bu ONLY Tenfar has hacked one that works for the (locked BL versions of the phones) Atrix, Photon and the Dx2 and they are all the same "cwr".zip!
Ibolski are you referring to my "wish" post?
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There is no point in using a recovery from another phone that has less options then bsr. U may be able to flash stuff like bsr but if it wont restore system there is no point in even posting it other then creating confusion when people cant nandroid back after something goes wrong. Save yourself a lot of issues people use bsr and deal with pluging it in. Its functional where the alternatives are not.
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I just had an idea. How about, instead of replacing charge mode, replace stock recovery and add an option in CWM to go into the stock recovery if needed. I can't do any of it but if a developer wants the challenge.
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If this was possibke it would be done already
(Oops I ment) motcher41 .
You are missing my boat! The old Atrix, the Photon and the Dx2 bootstrap.apk are the same files/apks. The photon and ours have the same md5 sums.
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iBolski.
You are missing my boat! The old Atrix, the Photon and the Dx2 bootstrap.apk are the same files/apks. The photon and ours have the same md5 sums.
I was only saying this to show YOU that these are the only ones that are alternatives yet they are the same.
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After all, everything everyone said...I'm jittering...need to flash something new...omg!!! Calling VZW now for warranty alternative...lol
SMILE It's Not Illegal Yet
skwoodwiva said:
(Oops I ment) motcher41 .
You are missing my boat! The old Atrix, the Photon and the Dx2 bootstrap.apk are the same files/apks. The photon and ours have the same md5 sums.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22610152
That's the thread post I was refering to mainly
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ashclepdia said:
If this was possibke it would be done already
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Where does the rom manager one install?
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Where does the rom manager one install?
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If my memory serves me correctly... which it rarely does lol... because of the locked bootloader the install fails. Stock recovery is in the bootloader and we cannot modify the bootloader so we can't install recovery. Or does install but the bootloader overrides it and brings us to stock. Something like that.. vodka is making it all foggy lol I'm pretty sure that's close though
Actually i think somewhere in the system... preinstall I think. But our locked bootloader is why it does not work and cannot work. That I remember for sure
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Where does the rom manager one install?
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Where RM puts the recovery IDNK but it's not preinstall.
BTW
Tenfar was one smart cookie getting cwr working w/ one apk on 3 different phones.
Moltcher41
my post about a the the newer atrix recovery WAS in response to a MX2 Q about RECOVERY SAVING AS TARBALLS and they could not get a working recovery anyway.
Now some Mx2's can use ReRecovery manually as a work around.
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I have flashed lots of foreign recoveries - no problem as I never install them. They run in the same environment created by our bsr.
But using Rom Manager to install any recovery, other than the still non-functioning dx2, will require an sbf.
nope.
ashclepdia said:
u don't need to unplug when u see the moto logo
if recovery mode is set all u need to do is
power off and plug in as said above
it does this because our recovery hijacks charge only mode, its the only way we can boot into BSR at this time
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the power thing doesn't work..
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the power thing doesn't work..
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then you are doing it wrong
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I have it rooted and installed safestrap. I rebooted to recovery by pressing menu button at startup, I wipe all data/cache/dalvik or w/e cache, enabled safe system, installed RAZR-ICS-AOKP-12.03.16-GSM-KANG-J.Y.Daddy from SD card.
But when I rebooted...Nothing happened, I still had my old stock rom. I've no idea whats going on, any help/tips/suggestions greatly appreciated, thank you
Safestrap is for CDMA, not GSM.
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Safestrap is for CDMA, not GSM.
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I have safestrap on my gsm razr
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zeidof said:
I have safestrap on my gsm razr
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But you can't boot into recovery on the gsm razr...
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JDCFH said:
But you can't boot into recovery on the gsm razr...
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err yes you can,
reaperzero said:
err yes you can,
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I thought I'd read that if you have bricked your phone that you can't boot into safe strap recovery?
I know you can boot into it normally but thought if you needed to boot into recovery if you have soft brick you can't use safe strap recovery?
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I thought I'd read that if you have bricked your phone that you can't boot into safe strap recovery?
I know you can boot into it normally but thought if you needed to boot into recovery if you have soft brick you can't use safe strap recovery?
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lets just say we know what we are doing :/ if you arent sure then by all means use the CWM on boot. i find it annoying though =_= and if any tom **** or harry gets a hold of my phone and reboots it.
it gives them the chance of factory resetting my phone.... me friends are assholes. also i did make his phone crash after that incident using prey. till today he still thinks its possessed
and on that note if you really do brick it you can always flash it over using RSD lite. well if you have the correct rom version anyway
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lets just say we know what we are doing :/ if you arent sure then by all means use the CWM on boot. i find it annoying though =_= and if any tom **** or harry gets a hold of my phone and reboots it.
it gives them the chance of factory resetting my phone.... me friends are assholes. also i did make his phone crash after that incident using prey. till today he still thinks its possessed
and on that note if you really do brick it you can always flash it over using RSD lite. well if you have the correct rom version anyway
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So is it better to use safe strap over boot strap then? How do you boot into recovery? I don't think you can boot
Into recovery using bootstrap so its kinda pointless?
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=_= why dont you go search the forums? to me you already sound you have your mind made up. and i would like to say again i can boot into recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347767
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=_= why dont you go search the forums? to me you already sound you have your mind made up. and i would like to say again i can boot into recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347767
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No need for the hostility.
I can boot in to recovery from the GUI but not from the phone being in an off state which I would think to be very useful.
So from your post it will only work properly if I flash up to 2.3.6 or if I roll back busy box?
Some guidance would be nice instead of being an ass. People like me come to these forums to learn from people who know more like yourself.
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thats what bootstrap is supposed to do. if it was cyanogen you can boot in using the power+ volume button. cwm on boot is just making sure that cwm boots up before anything else. hence if you soft brick you can restore
also all the info is already in the forum. search engine is your friend. any questions should be directed to their respective threads. as the devs who made them should be monitoring it
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I've done the root thing on many android devices but my Maxx is really perplexing me!!
I have installed the official ICS OTA update and am running 6.16.211.XT912 ICS 4.0.4 and rooted it with the Droid Razr Utility 1.8
I don't plan to flasch ROMS as I'm just too afraid of bricking the unit. The primary reason I wanted to root was just a few system tweaks and for Titanium Backup. I would like to make a nandroid backup just in case something goes awry. That brings me to the issue of Safestrap. I have version 2.0, which I under stand to be ICS compatible, installed. I'm just not sure how to use it and if cllicking the install recovery will mess up my system. I'm also not sure what "safe system" means.
Is Safestrap basically creating a dual boot method?
Does selecting install recovery put CWM on device and does is override default boot? Is this a problem?
Once recovery installed, how do you make a nandroid? Same way as I do on tablet or old Incredible?
Thanks!
There is a lot of literature on this. You can always use matts 1.8 utility to flash back to stock if things do not work out.
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Why Safestrap when we have the BootMenu which is imho much better and much more user friendly???
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Is Safestrap basically creating a dual boot method?
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Sort of... more like it saves a backup of your original state and you can switch back to it. Not a true dual boot.
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Does selecting install recovery put CWM on device and does is override default boot? Is this a problem?
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Safestrap replaces CWM after installing safestrap you should not be using the CWM app..if thats what you are asking.
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Once recovery installed, how do you make a nandroid? Same way as I do on tablet or old Incredible?
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Nandroid is an outdated term. just go into Backup menu, and make a backup!
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Thanks!
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Np
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Why Safestrap when we have the BootMenu which is imho much better and much more user friendly???
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CDMA roms require Safestrap.
Rooting 6.16.211 XT912
jcarley0830 said:
I've done the root thing on many android devices but my Maxx is really perplexing me!!
I have installed the official ICS OTA update and am running 6.16.211.XT912 ICS 4.0.4 and rooted it with the Droid Razr Utility 1.8
I don't plan to flasch ROMS as I'm just too afraid of bricking the unit. The primary reason I wanted to root was just a few system tweaks and for Titanium Backup. I would like to make a nandroid backup just in case something goes awry. That brings me to the issue of Safestrap. I have version 2.0, which I under stand to be ICS compatible, installed. I'm just not sure how to use it and if cllicking the install recovery will mess up my system. I'm also not sure what "safe system" means.
Is Safestrap basically creating a dual boot method?
Does selecting install recovery put CWM on device and does is override default boot? Is this a problem?
Once recovery installed, how do you make a nandroid? Same way as I do on tablet or old Incredible?
Thanks!
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I just got a Moto RAZR (not the RAZR MAXX) in the mail yesterday and it came stock 6.16.211.XT912 ICS 4.0.4. I see you rooted your RAZR MAXX, but will this Droid RAZR Utility 1.8 (i found this method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769345&highlight=droid+razr+utility+1+8) work for my RAZR?
In short, yes Safestrap makes your phone dual bootable. What you'll want to do is open the app and click install recovery. Now, every time you reboot your phone you'll see a new boot menu just before your boot animation. It lasts 10 seconds. If you do nothing, it does nothing and continues to boot the phone after 10 seconds. Pressing search speeds up the process so you don't have to wait 10 seconds. To boot into CWM, press menu some time in that 10 second window. From there you can create your backup and be finished.
As long as the recovery is installed, you'll always see that boot menu which is IMO a nice convenient fail safe option for our locked bootloader devices. Since we can't boot into recovery with button commands (as you can on HTC devices) I can't think of a better option in the event you have a bad flash.
To flash a new rom you NEED TO enable safe system from within CWM. This boots the phone from the internal or external sd card so you have the ability to flash roms that a Motorola device otherwise couldn't. It has no effect on the phone rom (non safe rom) so I advise trying it out. If you don't like it, the phone rom is there and waiting. Happy flashing!
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In short, yes Safestrap makes your phone dual bootable. What you'll want to do is open the app and click install recovery. Now, every time you reboot your phone you'll see a new boot menu just before your boot animation. It lasts 10 seconds. If you do nothing, it does nothing and continues to boot the phone after 10 seconds. Pressing search speeds up the process so you don't have to wait 10 seconds. To boot into CWM, press menu some time in that 10 second window. From there you can create your backup and be finished.
As long as the recovery is installed, you'll always see that boot menu which is IMO a nice convenient fail safe option for our locked bootloader devices. Since we can't boot into recovery with button commands (as you can on HTC devices) I can't think of a better option in the event you have a bad flash.
To flash a new rom you NEED TO enable safe system from within CWM. This boots the phone from the internal or external sd card so you have the ability to flash roms that a Motorola device otherwise couldn't. It has no effect on the phone rom (non safe rom) so I advise trying it out. If you don't like it, the phone rom is there and waiting. Happy flashing!
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So you can have safestrap and cwm installed at the same time? I was told in another forum to delete cwm since i have xt912. I'm getting really confused. My days with the Droid incredible were much more simple.
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safestrap vs bootstrap and cwmd
Technically yes because safestrap is a form of cwmd. What you cannot have installed together is safestrap and BOOTSTRAP because both hijack the bootloader. If you have both installed you will soft brick your .device. Bootstrap is for people who enjoy being able to wipe their phones entirely when installing a new ROM. Safestrap lets you dual boot which is much safer, especially if your going to flash ROMS. Personally i recommend safestrap.
Safestrap and Bootstrap are both means of accessing CWM. You cannot use both at the same time. The differences are:
Bootstrap = app that reboots the phone and hijacks recovery so your phone can boot to CWM. Not capable of dual booting. The app must initiate reboot each time you want to boot to CWM.
Safestrap = app that hijacks recovery and prompts you to boot into CWM on every reboot. It's capable of booting into "safe mode" aka dual boot from sd card. After initial installation you no longer need to access the app.
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All my Droid Razr is doing is just showing the Motorola icon and nothing else after I tried changing the font on my phone using Rom Toolkit. I don't have bootstrap or a custom recovery loaded on my phone. I am hoping that I can flash a font zip from stock recovery and fix it without losing any data.
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All my Droid Razr is doing is just showing the Motorola icon and nothing else after I tried changing the font on my phone using Rom Toolkit. I don't have bootstrap or a custom recovery loaded on my phone. I am hoping that I can flash a font zip from stock recovery and fix it without losing any data.
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What version RAZR XT912 or XT910?
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What version RAZR XT912 or XT910?
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I believe its the XT912. The Verizon one.
I believe I was able to fix it. I was going to use RSD Lite to flash the official ICS software. But I read the the fonts are only located on the system partition. So I took the official software and got the system img and in fastboot just flashed the system img. I had already lost all the data because I tried a factory reset. But I think that would have saved me from losing my data and I would just need to reroot the phone.
Just picked up a Razr Maxx from Verizon and I've been a Samsung/HTC guy for a while and I'm a little nervous about rooting and flashing. My last motorola phone was a X2...I hate that whole sbf/rsd lite process...been loving my unlocked boot loaders.
Anyway, can someone just verify the way to go about this? I'm assuming most ROMs are now bases off the .211 firmware.
Take a look at my screen shot. I'm assuming I put the drivers and rsd onto the PC...then root...slap on bootstrap and flash? I saw somewhere where a different recovery was needed to flash and would cause a brick if not used. Safe strap? Also would like clarification on kexec. Is this built into the ROMs? And what's boot menu?
Thanks in advance for the help guys.
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Ok, I went ahead just just Rooted and threw Eclipse on my RAZR. Its booting now. I still have questions on how to use RSD. I'm noticing MOTO doesnt use SBF fies anymore. I also would like to know about Safestrap vs. Bootstrap and which is better to use. And how does kexec work. I know what it does...but is there a seperate zip to flash on top of a rom? or does the rom include it when you flash it? I would really appreciate it if someone cleared it up for me.
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Most all of the cdma development uses safestrap.
You cannot use two recoveries at once.
Matt's 1.81 utility is the easiest way to flash back to stock or to root. It can be found at droidrzr.com under RAZR development under cdma section.
Most of the rom development is over there too.
Make sure you have complete files, factory cable, and a healthy charge when flashing.
Also read the safestrap thread over there.
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bwheelies said:
Most all of the cdma development uses safestrap.
You cannot use two recoveries at once.
Matt's 1.81 utility is the easiest way to flash back to stock or to root. It can be found at droidrzr.com under RAZR development under cdma section.
Most of the rom development is over there too.
Make sure you have complete files, factory cable, and a healthy charge when flashing.
Also read the safestrap thread over there.
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Thank you so much. Always a little confusing when switching phones...especially to one with a locked bootloader. Totally cleared it all up. Thanks again.