has anyone else noticed just how much data the music app uses? I was just using navigation today and playing music on my phone, not streaming it, and when I get back home I was surprised my data use jumped up over 250 mb, it was at .001gb when I left since the cycle started yesterday (no data with the outage lol) I was only out for about an hour and music was on about 20min. So I try to figure out what is using all that data tonight and when I check battery info and click on the music app I see it has received 400mb of data today. That's insane, like I said I was not streaming from motocast, playing off the Sd card. After some testing it seems to be the recommendations settings in live music. If this is on and music is open it uses about 10 mb every 30 seconds to a minute. Lyrics uses very little, that's why I had it on in the first place, but turning off share music data , recommendations and news will put a stop to the data sucking and I think it will still download album art too, but I let that sit the first time I got the phone so it downloaded that stuff over WiFi so don't know if it is still on, there is no specific option to turn off album art. And of course you can Turn it all of by unclicking live music info.
anyway, those of us on limited data need to watch this so just wanted to let everyone know what might be causing all that data use. I like the music app but what the hell with this kind of data use just for recommending similar music.
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Ok, so ever since i upgraded to GB a few weeks back ive been having some issues with my music player.
Before i could listen to music on long road trips for hours with no problems, even after screen lock. Now it seems that only after a few mins, the music player just shuts off!! Its also not even a set time, just whenever it likes, could be 2 mins, or 10 mins, but its very short.
Also it has no affect on if i just switched songs or not, even if the screen is on and not locked, it shuts off.
What is causing this?
i have had this. not consistently though. sometimes i have no problems.
Jonny Steele said:
Ok, so ever since i upgraded to GB a few weeks back ive been having some issues with my music player.
Before i could listen to music on long road trips for hours with no problems, even after screen lock. Now it seems that only after a few mins, the music player just shuts off!! Its also not even a set time, just whenever it likes, could be 2 mins, or 10 mins, but its very short.
Also it has no affect on if i just switched songs or not, even if the screen is on and not locked, it shuts off.
What is causing this?
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It never happened to me using 'cubed music player'
do not have things like "gallery," "wallpaper picker," or any system items in the "auto-end" list, or for whatever reason (interconnectedness of things), your music will stop. I had this problem, and when I removed items from the auto-end, it worked fine.
I agree the music player is bad, but for reasons including that there is no "all songs" option for each artist (ie you have to name every album on Itunes or it goes in a common folder with tons of other artists, and have to do it in properties of the file, make genre, etc. all the exact same).
Dump stock music player and get DoubleTwist and TCM Music Tag Editor, AMAZING you'll never want to go back
Hope this helps
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I know android allocates memory when its not using some apps.. but there are some I don't want it to.. like how Google maps loads its signal every time you switch to another app, or let the screen time out.. or how the browser, when it's watching that megaupload timer, and you switch to something else to kill the time, when you come back the timer hasn't moved at all.. of if you're watching a video online, letting the screen go off, or tabbing makes the streaming video start all over from the beginning cause it lost its place. or if you want to listen to music from a YouTube video, turning the screen off kills the vid
is there a way to stop certain apps from sleeping? I know some apps never sleep, like music players, or Google navigation
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So between Google Music and Pandora, which uses more data (if at all)?
If I listen to the full length of "Song A" in Gmusic and then the same song in Pandora, will one program use more data to play said song?
Been wondering about that for a couple weeks.
IIRC Pandora does some type of 'read ahead' where it will cache or buffer the music you are listening to.. kinda like satellite radio does in case you go under a bridge or something..
I streamed Pandora for a week once in the past and the data usage wasn't what I imagined it would be.. (this was some time ago too)..
Sorry for lack of details, but this is all I have..
You could grab some type of data usage counter and allow your phone to sit idle for 20 minutes to get a base to compare to.. play 1 song w/ google music, then the same song w/ pandora and compare the usage ?
Just stabbing at ideas..
Yea I thought about doing that.. but I would want to get a data counter that will count small bits of data. Would want to find something to measure kilobytes or maybe even down to bytes.
Anyone know of an app that will count data in that small of increments?
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Yea I thought about doing that.. but I would want to get a data counter that will count small bits of data. Would want to find something to measure kilobytes or maybe even down to bytes.
Anyone know of an app that will count data in that small of increments?
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Either that or up your sample size so that the smaller denominators become insignificant. Try a playlist of 10 songs or something on both players.
Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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Adauth said:
Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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I cache my favorite radio stations on Slacker Radio to my SD card while on wifi to save data usage..
Which uses more depends on the bitrate they stream it at. Can't say for sure because I've never really looked into it but my guess is Google Music would be streamed at a higher bitrate than Pandora. Its just a guess though.
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Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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im not worried at all about data usage.. im grandfather in for the unlim
Im just curious, thats all
I would assume Pandora uses less bandwidth because every song is optimized for streaming, especially if you choose the 'low quality' selection under Pandoras settings.
Your music library collection may have much larger song files with higher bitrates that have been poorly compressed or maybe with very high quality making it use more bandwidth.
It really depends on your library. Both google music and Pandora have buffers, so that shouldn't factor in against Pandora.
I've been using the iHeartRadio app which lets me listen to the stations I really want to listen to, but the problem is that it keeps the processor at the top two steps speed wise.
Anyone know of one that will not keep the processor this high and therefore hopefully reduce my battery use while listening to streaming music?
If it is any consolation, my Iheartradio devours battery too. So much that I stopped using it completely. I've been using Tune-in for awhile but the most recent builds, seem to keep firing up in the background even after I FC them. I don't like that. I reverted to a previous build but mainly I listen to Mp3's or Jango (fka Radiotime). But I would be interested in know of another app too that works like Iheart.
Little tip: Any music app that has a cache system, i.e. Jango, Pandora, Stitcher will drastically conserve battery power b/c it isn't constantly pulling in data over the internet. It pulls it in and caches it so that you can pause and play at will or even come back later on to the same song. Apps like Iheartradio MLB At-Bat and the like that run a live stream, are power hungry, so beware. Muhahaha!!!
Yea, unfortunately I use it to listen to talk radio so there's not much that could be done in the form of caching. My only other option would be to find out if I could find another way of listening to my favorite hosts' shows via something that can be cached.
** EDIT ** Unfortunately I think all the shows I want to listen to require you to subscribe to the show's membership to be able to get the podcasts instead of listening to them live.
Is it normal for spotify to use a lot of storage space? It seems to increase the longer I use the app to listen to music. I don't have offline playlists enabled. I can see the app size increasing in the app info screen. It is the "sd card data" section to be specific that increases. About 30 min results in around 200mb. Is this normal? I keep clearing the app data to free storage but it comes back gradually as I listen to songs.
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Is it normal for spotify to use a lot of storage space? It seems to increase the longer I use the app to listen to music. I don't have offline playlists enabled. I can see the app size increasing in the app info screen. It is the "sd card data" section to be specific that increases. About 30 min results in around 200mb. Is this normal? I keep clearing the app data to free storage but it comes back gradually as I listen to songs.
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You are familiar with media streaming, aren't you? Spotify temporarily downloads data packages to stream the music. Normally, the data will be erased after you close Spotify, but as long as Spotify is active the data will stay on your device, because you might want to listen to that song again and thus Spotify will be able to load the music data without downloading them again.
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You are familiar with media streaming, aren't you? Spotify temporarily downloads data packages to stream the music. Normally, the data will be erased after you close Spotify, but as long as Spotify is active the data will stay on your device, because you might want to listen to that song again and thus Spotify will be able to load the music data without downloading them again.
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Yes, I know how media streaming works. I'm just surprised that spotify seems to save all the songs listened to and never clears its cache even after I force quit or close the app. Other streaming apps clear their cache after you close them so it doesn't grow perpetually. I was just checking to see if it's normal for spotify to do this. I guess it is but it's kind of annoying that it doesn't clear the cache automatically when you close it or periodically.
Hey, if you want to save the space of your phone, you can backup all the music you loved or downloaded on your computer, USB or external hard drive with TuneFab Spotify Music Converter and reinstall your Spotify app, then your storage of your phone will be perfectly saved.