has anyone else noticed just how much data the music app uses? I was just using navigation today and playing music on my phone, not streaming it, and when I get back home I was surprised my data use jumped up over 250 mb, it was at .001gb when I left since the cycle started yesterday (no data with the outage lol) I was only out for about an hour and music was on about 20min. So I try to figure out what is using all that data tonight and when I check battery info and click on the music app I see it has received 400mb of data today. That's insane, like I said I was not streaming from motocast, playing off the Sd card. After some testing it seems to be the recommendations settings in live music. If this is on and music is open it uses about 10 mb every 30 seconds to a minute. Lyrics uses very little, that's why I had it on in the first place, but turning off share music data , recommendations and news will put a stop to the data sucking and I think it will still download album art too, but I let that sit the first time I got the phone so it downloaded that stuff over WiFi so don't know if it is still on, there is no specific option to turn off album art. And of course you can Turn it all of by unclicking live music info.
anyway, those of us on limited data need to watch this so just wanted to let everyone know what might be causing all that data use. I like the music app but what the hell with this kind of data use just for recommending similar music.
So between Google Music and Pandora, which uses more data (if at all)?
If I listen to the full length of "Song A" in Gmusic and then the same song in Pandora, will one program use more data to play said song?
Been wondering about that for a couple weeks.
IIRC Pandora does some type of 'read ahead' where it will cache or buffer the music you are listening to.. kinda like satellite radio does in case you go under a bridge or something..
I streamed Pandora for a week once in the past and the data usage wasn't what I imagined it would be.. (this was some time ago too)..
Sorry for lack of details, but this is all I have..
You could grab some type of data usage counter and allow your phone to sit idle for 20 minutes to get a base to compare to.. play 1 song w/ google music, then the same song w/ pandora and compare the usage ?
Just stabbing at ideas..
Yea I thought about doing that.. but I would want to get a data counter that will count small bits of data. Would want to find something to measure kilobytes or maybe even down to bytes.
Anyone know of an app that will count data in that small of increments?
stupidchicken03 said:
Yea I thought about doing that.. but I would want to get a data counter that will count small bits of data. Would want to find something to measure kilobytes or maybe even down to bytes.
Anyone know of an app that will count data in that small of increments?
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Either that or up your sample size so that the smaller denominators become insignificant. Try a playlist of 10 songs or something on both players.
Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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Adauth said:
Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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I cache my favorite radio stations on Slacker Radio to my SD card while on wifi to save data usage..
Which uses more depends on the bitrate they stream it at. Can't say for sure because I've never really looked into it but my guess is Google Music would be streamed at a higher bitrate than Pandora. Its just a guess though.
Adauth said:
Just get the Offline music importer app. Then you can save all your music or only the songs you want to your device and not have to stream at all saving alot of data. You can also use any music player apply to listen to your music.
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im not worried at all about data usage.. im grandfather in for the unlim
Im just curious, thats all
I would assume Pandora uses less bandwidth because every song is optimized for streaming, especially if you choose the 'low quality' selection under Pandoras settings.
Your music library collection may have much larger song files with higher bitrates that have been poorly compressed or maybe with very high quality making it use more bandwidth.
It really depends on your library. Both google music and Pandora have buffers, so that shouldn't factor in against Pandora.
I have always kept my music on a storage card to free up as much phone memory as possible. With the addition of space in Dropbox when you buy this phone, I am searching for the best system to implement for my phone. Ideally I would like to just place music files in Dropbox and have those files automatically saved on my SD card. This would give me instant access to my songs from my phone and computer and be a backup in case my computer crashes.
So I throw this out to you guys and ask how you best implement music on your phone keeping these three things in mind:
1. Download a song and listen from your computer or phone
2. Songs saved on memory card to free up space
3. All music is backed up in case your computer crashes.
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I have always kept my music on a storage card to free up as much phone memory as possible. With the addition of space in Dropbox when you buy this phone, I am searching for the best system to implement for my phone. Ideally I would like to just place music files in Dropbox and have those files automatically saved on my SD card. This would give me instant access to my songs from my phone and computer and be a backup in case my computer crashes.
So I throw this out to you guys and ask how you best implement music on your phone keeping these three things in mind:
1. Download a song and listen from your computer or phone
2. Songs saved on memory card to free up space
3. All music is backed up in case your computer crashes.
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Google play is all i need.
njfoses said:
Google play is all i need.
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This. I'm in the process of ripping my 600+ CD collection to MP3. Google Play Music automatically finds the new stuff and uploads it. Then I can play songs on any device without having to carry a card or drive around, and have taken up no hard drive or SD card space. :thumbup:
Google Music in conjunction with an SD card.
I keep a small amount of music on my SD card, mostly just stuff that I'm likely to listen to at any given time.
I store EVERYTHING on Google Music; I currently have 4565 songs uploaded to the service. It requires no local storage of your own, as it is all in the cloud. You can use the app on your phone to stream that music over Wi-Fi or your mobile connection. You can also make music available offline, which essentially downloads it to your phone.
All you have to do is upload all of your music to the cloud, and you'll have access to it anywhere: any computer, any android phone or tablet. It would suit your needs nicely.
I listen to music on my phone primarily when I am on the plane. Google play wouldn't work for me.
If I could get the songs to download to my SD card when I hit favorite in Dropbox, my problem would be solved.
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I listen to music on my phone primarily when I am on the plane. Google play wouldn't work for me.
If I could get the songs to download to my SD card when I hit favorite in Dropbox, my problem would be solved.
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Why not? If you make music available offline through Google Music, you don't need an internet connection to listen to it.
I rarely use streamimg. But if I do I prefer live365 over Pandora. I mostly download music from MP3 search and download ( not in the market , But here http://www.apktops.com/mp3-music-search-and-download-3-2.html
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and I save on my 16gb SD card. and my music player is N7 ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.n7mobile.nplayer)
Google Music is the way to go. I make some available offline if I know I will be without data.
I know this is a little off topic but I wish Google would allow you to upload books into Google Books like you can with Music. I know they are afraid of ripped off books but let's be honest about it and with Google Music.
just curious, but when you do upload music to google play, is there any down scaling of audio quality? Like if i upload something in 320kbps, will it stay that quality?
I have most on google play and maybe 3-4 albums on my sdcard.
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just curious, but when you do upload music to google play, is there any down scaling of audio quality? Like if i upload something in 320kbps, will it stay that quality?
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I haven't noticed any difference myself. All of the music you buy from there is 320kbps, so I assume they wouldn't downscale what you upload.
Because this is related to music, I was wondering how you guys download and organize your music in your computer
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I use subsonic. it gives me access to my 400gb of music on the go and I can download any of it to my phone at any time. subsonic uses your home computer as the cloud so a decent home connection and the computer always on is a must.
it also provides you your own website to access the songs from any computer browser
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This. I'm in the process of ripping my 600+ CD collection to MP3. Google Play Music automatically finds the new stuff and uploads it. Then I can play songs on any device without having to carry a card or drive around, and have taken up no hard drive or SD card space. :thumbup:
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yup love google music.
I run a subsonic server off a linux box at home for streaming the entire collection, and rotate albums on an SD card for stuff i listen to most often.
I have a little over 50,000 MP3's. I use Audiogalaxy and have found it to be the best at handling large collections. Google music is too restrictive and will not allow my large collection. I do keep about 300-500 songs on my phone at any given time of some of my favorites so I don't have to stream all the time. Audiogalaxy allows you to pin songs too but I have never taken advantage of that feature yet.
Google music allows 20k songs. Seriously, that's more than anyone needs...lol. I uploaded 6000 songs and best decision I've made. Runs on 10 different devices so my family has access if they need it.
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I use Google Play and Audiogalaxy. Both work great. I just can't wait until this 4G in San Antonio becomes more widespread. The constant buffering gets annoying sometimes.
Definitely Google Music. Let's be realistic here. We are all not going to listen to all the music we have, hell, sometimes I wonder why I have this song in my play list. At work I get no signal but I've cached the albums/songs I listen to the most and I'm set. When on the go I just stream it. Best. Decision. Ever.
I have it on my sd card. used to use Google Music...
So when I want to stream one particular song I noticed that the Google Play Music app downloads and caches the previous/next few songs for quicker access. How can I prevent this? It uses a lot of data and I usually only want to listen to the one song I chose to stream.
For example if I play a 6 mb song i noticed it uses about 40 mb to stream just that one song. Then I selected a different song to stream and immediately went into settings > download queue and noticed it was loading more songs than the one I requested. I only want to listen to the 1 song I chose, so how can I prevent the other songs from loading? As far as I can see there is no way in the app's settings but there has to be another way to stop this inconvenience.
Thanks in advance!
P.S. I have a T999 galaxy s3 running on stock rooted ICS
Also, if this is in the wrong forum I apologize (feel free to move it if it is), but I felt like this is a problem with the app on android and that maybe others were suffering from this too!
Just bumping to see if anyone knows why this happens? And if there is a way to to stop it because it is really affecting the usefulness of streaming from google play!
Recently upgraded from a z3c (with sony concept software) to a z5c. It's been pretty sweet but I'm getting really frustrated with Google play music being killed in the background whenever music is paused. This happens when I've moved from the play music app to another with the music paused (usually about a minute or so. after switching apps). It's extremely frustrating as I can't just carry on playing music once I'm done whatever I'm doing in the other app; I have to re-open google play music and click play again. This is particularly annoying when I'm in my car as I use a bluetooth head unit which I can pause/play music, which won't work if the app has been killed i.e. I'd have to open the app again on my phone which I obviously can't do when I'm driving.
Does anyone have any ideas? So far I've tried un-optimising the app in the battery settings, clearing the cache, stopping other processes (to make sure I'm not maxing out the RAM) but with no success. I'm not a power user and haven't got the phone rooted, and would like to avoid it if possible. Any help would be much appreciated!