Hi everyone! While waiting for a donor phone to be dropped in my lap at work today, i spent about 20 min taking my phone apart to see what was inside......So please enjoy, and I have some questions about the shielding over the radio components.....any ideas on taking it off? I know i should de solder them but without burning the board? whats the best approach Ive never soldered so please post a link or something. I really want to take a look under those shields. So without further ado taking your housing off!!!!!
Take out all the screws and stuff....helps if you have a fingernail or a pick for pulling it apart too!
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Dont forget these ones hiding on the bottom like i did and all the rubber stuff!
Continue all the way around until your back at the top!
Take the housing off until its in 2 pieces like this one.
Pull this screw out by the sd card slot
Pull out the first ribbon cable
Plus this one too!
Pull this black thingy
Pull the sticker to expose the mysterious radio components
and your all naked!!!
now some other pictures and stuff!
Sim card slots n stuff!
Shielded components
Any ideas on how to get them off?
Blurrycam solder points
Stuff
If you guys have ideas please throw them out or a specific pic request let me know Ill do it to help everyone with the next phone i get.
very nicely done. didnt realize that the radiop parts were so well covered
Can you put an arrow to the LTE chip??
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very nicely done. didnt realize that the radiop parts were so well covered
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Thanks! I'm not sure how I'm going to get them off with out damaging the board Im saving up so I can get another for parts and separate the board and shield.
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shabbypenguin said:
very nicely done. didnt realize that the radiop parts were so well covered
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I can tell you from experience that this is a well built phone. Pay close attention to secondary seals under the rear housing and usb/hdmi ports. I had a customer come in with one that had a coffee bath and still worked. The only parts that got wet was between the lcd and digitizer and between the lcd panel and reflector (the mopho was face down on a table when it happened). Except for the coffee staining the reflector panel in the LCD assembly it was good to go after desiccant/hotbox treatment.
U need a hotflow soldier to get those panels of...or bake it in a oven but u will ruin it
I deff don't recommend trying to take those off even if you have the right tools
That stuff flat out takes experience and a good hand
Thx for the great pix and work
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U need a hotflow soldier to get those panels of...or bake it in a oven but u will ruin it
I deff don't recommend trying to take those off even if you have the right tools
That stuff flat out takes experience and a good hand
Thx for the great pix and work
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No problem! this means I have to find a sacrificial photon:-(
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What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Why 2 photons and why are you taking them apart?
I think he's trying to get all the chip info
That may help with dev
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I think he's trying to get all the chip info
That may help with dev
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Yep!
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So when you do get this opened up, keep in mind if there is a n lte chip, it will be a dual wi-max/lte chip, only one has been made between a chip company and motorola and motorola has only made one wi-max phone so ill place my bets the dual chip is in here, ill try to repost with a picture of what it should look like
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No LTE Support for Photon
No need to find a sacrificial lamb for your curiosity, our phones wont support LTE at all. The Photon has the Wimax Chipset Version bece3502, the Dual mode LTE/WIMAX chipset is the bece5000.
So there you have it, Sucks but its better to know then to ruin a phone.
Ive heard and read its just running the Beceem 3502 drivers for now, ive also heard of sprint representatives saying an update will come for the photon to support lte when theyre network is expanded, what other reason would motorola hide the photons full hardware information until january, when sprint releases theyre "big secret" at ces which im guessing is LTE
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Anyone know how to crack this puppy open? I assume that those are two screw hole plugs on either side of the 30 pin port but I can't think of a way to get them out without digging into the plastic with a pair of sharp tweezers. If anyone can give some advice on how to open it, I'll gladly do it and take photos of the breakdown
http://dealextreme.com/p/professional-premium-precision-phone-disassembly-tool-7-piece-set-23050
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I already have the tools... but thanks
Then what's the problem?
Nothing. You were very helpful. Thank goodness you are here.
Yes, sarcasm will get you everywhere. Congrats on achieving your ends of getting ignored.
Ready your flame suit
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Anyone know how to crack this puppy open? I assume that those are two screw hole plugs on either side of the 30 pin port but I can't think of a way to get them out without digging into the plastic with a pair of sharp tweezers. If anyone can give some advice on how to open it, I'll gladly do it and take photos of the breakdown
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I'd love to see this baby undressed! Please, make it so
I'd rather see it blend.
The screen is glued on... You have to use a heat gun or blow dryer to soften the glue and then *gently* pry. I own a mobile device/computer repair shop and most mobile devices now are glued together. Screws make them fat. If you need help let me know.
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The screen is glued on... You have to use a heat gun or blow dryer to soften the glue and then *gently* pry. I own a mobile device/computer repair shop and most mobile devices now are glued together. Screws make them fat. If you need help let me know.
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Thanks for the info! would the screen be the first angle of attack? And If I were to remove the screen in that manner, would I need to clean the glue and apply a new coat?
Also interested in how this would be done... not that I'd do it right now. I've had this thing for about 48 hours with very little use and I can see a spec of dust inside the screen surface. I wonder if warranty would cover that? I'm sure Best Buy would help me out here.
I plan on doing a tear down with step by step guide in the next week or two... Ill post it. You have to use a heat gun and suction cup... Its not as hard as you may think but IT IS DEFINITELY NOT FOR BEGGINERS THOUGH AND SHOULD ONLY BE DONE IF THE GLASS/LCD/DIGITIZER NEEDS REPLACED. You can always message me for help/advice... Its what i do everyday.
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I'm sure it will be much appreciated when you do thanks alot. I love knowing how to get into my own hardware to do my own repairs
Im going to tear it apart today and make a step by step guide. Havnt got to it because of the holiday weekend... Ill post results. It may be a couple days (not sure what "security" features i may find) but ill keep you guys posted (and the hidden microsd thread too ;-) )!
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Im going to tear it apart today and make a step by step guide. Havnt got to it because of the holiday weekend... Ill post results. It may be a couple days (not sure what "security" features i may find) but ill keep you guys posted (and the hidden microsd thread too ;-) )!
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Thousands of us cannot wait to see the results. Hope you have someone to take pictures of your hard work, step by step along the way.
Good luck - You are very brave!
Looking forward to seeing the inside of this thing. Good luck.
this impending tear down is going to answer a very..........bothersome question from another thread.........that i cannot wait for it to go away
Cool. It should be interesting to see how this is done.
I hope ifixit.com does a teardown. I don't see why they wouldn't. They do a lot of devices, and this is the reigning king of HC tablets.
This thread explains why I need one.
Anyone got a Vibrant laying around doing nothing? I need a motherboard or charging port.
Can someone confirm this will work? At the very least, I could rip the charging port (USB) out of it... I doubt the motherboard would work.
where are all of those "I bricked my phone" threads when you need them??
If you are still looking to get one. I could use one too. Just let me know how much and ill send you the cash.
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Wtf? Someone donate to this man! He's a great contribution to our community!
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I'll do the soldering if you need it.
I'd like to have the motherboard if you don't need it after you're done. I'm curious as to if I can change the LEDs for the hard keys.
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Phone is now off to Samsung. Once I hear back that they wont repair it, someone offered to sell me one for $10.
If it comes to that, I may solicit help on the soldering it to the motherboard. I can solder, but I have never done small electronics.
Dude ill buy 20 mobos if someone can get my babys pics off mine. Those r priceless to me plus I could keep themeing vibrant lol.
Samsung wanted 200per device, which I have 2, to fix mine because the so called gorrila glass is cracked on one of them......Hows that for customer service on a discontinued device?
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I don't mind helping. I've got numerous tools at work at my disposal, including microscopes to make sure the job is done right.
Me and my girl are probably switching service in December, so you two guys can have dibs... if you want it.
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Dude ill buy 20 mobos if someone can get my babys pics off mine. Those r priceless to me plus I could keep themeing vibrant lol.
Samsung wanted 200per device, which I have 2, to fix mine because the so called gorrila glass is cracked on one of them......Hows that for customer service on a discontinued device?
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I need to go back and read your thread I guess... how is a cracked screen preventing you from getting your babies pics man? I am ubber confused by that.
Its not the cracked screen. Ive got 2 vibes. My wifes just crapped out alll of a sudden running stock. Mine had the cracked screen but it dont affect performance. Its been like that since I dropped "gorrilla glass" in the grass a week after I got mine a year ago. Idk wtf happend to hers she made a call on stock and it goes to the vibe bootload screen then dies. I got it into recovery once but ir died before I can save drives. (less then 20 secs).
Samsung says its because its been dropped and wants roughly 200 each to fix my issues even though ones bone stock that turned into a paperweight....
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wait... hers should EASILY be covered under warranty with Samsung. Assuming a july 15 purch, you should still have until Oct.
Are you saying T-Mo was saying "no," or samsung. If the latter, that is complete BS and I need to get more clarification for how they justify it?
Can you pull the files in the 20 seconds with ADB in bursts?
EDIT.. TWEET SENT
Hey @SamsungMobileUS - how do you justify yourself? Help the man get his babies pictures under warranty!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17362197&postcount=10 Please RT!
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Phone itself still runs fabulously, minus the main screen haha. Soft LED buttons also work.
Above picture is the aftermath of being ran over by forsure atleast 1 car, but possibly 3.
About a month ago, I attempted to disassemble it & screen swap with a bricked donor to some success. Runs & displays with the donor screen, but I think i ****ed up a couple fuse contact points because random seizure lines strobe once in awhile.
Anywho, it's dissambled into 3 different parts atm: Motherboard, Digitizer/AMOLED pane, and the main shell.
@thehandi,
Have you tried android screencast. Before the gingerbread bootloaders we were using it to see recovery through the rainbows. It will show what should be in your screen. And you can use your mouse to navigate your phone
Beware of angry gingerbread man
it started cracking (from what i noticed) like, last week
yesterday, it's totally broken off
anyone else have a DIY fix? superglue i'm thinking
****sux because i had the touchpad inside the official case day 1 AND it doesnt get moved around often nor does it see heavy usage
i have a theory that the case actually helps increase the chances of the cracks because any vibration/pressure is transmitted somewhat equally around the touchpad so even if the speaker side was not touched, any other force small or big goes speaker side and will eventually crack
Why don't u contact HP Support? They will replace the case!
I have the same problem that you are having. I have my touchpad for about a week or so and it cracked between both speakers it really sucks. So what I did was used super glue to fix the problem it might not look the best it works for now. Its nice to find out that its just not me having these problems but it really sucks.
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ya I know about the customer support replace, just wanted to get opinions on superglue approach before then because I'm sorta scared that my touchpad will get replace with a diff one or the screen gets scratched etc
if the super glue works I'll just do that
Don't do the superglue, I really regret doing it myself, it's not clear and is very ugly, i need to find a way to get it off before i can send it in.
I'm thinking of getting mine repaired and then getting it wrapped in ghost armor.
The armor works great...
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I bought one and uploaded some pics on amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-m...KD028/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0
I didnt have "Cracks" but I have the ripple effect on the small plastic part like it was going to crack.
wondering about the superglue method myself (i have cracks on both speakers). does it melt the plastic cover?
I have cracks on my TP as well. It's a hardware defect, much like the original Pre / usb door cracks. The plus side is that it will never spread to the screen, and it does not affect the performance (or looks if it's in a case).
I don't recommend sending it back for "repair" ... it's not worth it and you don't know if you'll get it back.
It works.
I just noticed cracks as well. I'm going to check out that ghost armor. Looks neat.
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well the cracks around the speakers is cosmetic. Contact HP Support they will replace the casing.
I had the same issue with my TP. The customer support was good. They sent me a return box and label. All you have to do is to pack your TP as per instructions and drop it at nearby UPS store. I received the repaired TP within a week.
Act fast before the warranty expires.
I just noticed a crack in mine. Called them and they are sending a box out. It's covered for a year they said.
10 have it back. I'm sad but will be happy to get new one and will have armor case ready and waiting for it.
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I have a question about sending it back to HP.should you uninstall Android or is it OK to leave and send it back? Thanks guys
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I have a question about sending it back to HP.should you uninstall Android or is it OK to leave and send it back? Thanks guys
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They factory reset it anyway. I will acmeuninstall and back it all up. Expect a brand New looking acting touchpad coming back.
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Leoisright said:
They factory reset it anyway. I will acmeuninstall and back it all up. Expect a brand New looking acting touchpad coming back.
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Yea. HP is going to get my tablet back in a few days. I have to go drop it off. I wonder if they've fixed the problem and the new ones don't do it. I sure hope so.
I have dropped mine and its cracked on the corner and some of the plastic has come away. Does anyone know if replacement covers are available while searching about this? Cant seem to find one.
My TP has now developed a crack near the speakers! Spoke to HP who said there was a batch of TP`s who had a "bad" batch of plastic and the new plastic they use is better and should not crack!!
I have to send photo`s of the crack to their Argentinian office and then the TP gets sent from the UK to Hungary for repair (through UPS)
Hungary?? I think that is the first time I have read the word "Hungary" anywhere in months (do not spend a lot of time looking at maps of Eastern Europe).
evilp8ntballer7 said:
The armor works great...
I bought one and uploaded some pics on amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-m...KD028/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0
I didnt have "Cracks" but I have the ripple effect on the small plastic part like it was going to crack.
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Is this a generic piece "sticker" that goes on the TP?
So the story goes we were in northern Maine on a fishing trip with no signal. I would like to make an external Cantenna, but need the correct patch cable to go from the phone to the cantenna. I don't care what connector is on the other end as I will source the correct connector based on the patch cable. Anyone know what spec the external antenna port is on our phone?
ps I know where the port is, just don't know what it's technical name is.
My fish is on the bottom 14" Brook trout
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Be careful!!!
I've read that those ports on the back of the phone are used by Samsung for testing purposes. Be careful when tinkering with those as you might permanently disconnect the internal antenna and ruin your phone. I was interested in making an external for my old Epic 4G Touch and decided not to after what I'd read about using those ports. Here's a thread with some info for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1484314
If you are successful in joining a Cantenna to one of those ports, let me how you did it.
Nice dinner there.
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Saw the exact same problem back with the captivate, poor guy trashed his phone, since the antenna connector never reset; apparently it is just the way Samsung handles antennas in their phones. There is a powered amplifier on the market that works without a direct wired connection, if I remember it will give you..... maybe 20db (guessing from a suspect memory) ... I could probably find the link, if you don't already have it.
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An engineer friend made a reflector that focuses the signal at his cell phone. I think he used a stainless steel bowl with a hole in the bottom so it was more a funnel than a reflector. You need to know where the cell tower is so you can point the bowl, though.
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An engineer friend made a reflector that focuses the signal at his cell phone. I think he used a stainless steel bowl with a hole in the bottom so it was more a funnel than a reflector. You need to know where the cell tower is so you can point the bowl, though.
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Damn Paul I'm jealous, I want friends like yours, like the way you think
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An engineer friend made a reflector that focuses the signal at his cell phone. I think he used a stainless steel bowl with a hole in the bottom so it was more a funnel than a reflector. You need to know where the cell tower is so you can point the bowl, though.
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Sounds like a good idea, but not sure it will work where we are. Lots of trees in the way. It sucks that Samsung would not use the external antenna port the same way as everyone else. I'll contact sammy and see what's up.
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Sounds like a good idea, but not sure it will work where we are. Lots of trees in the way. It sucks that Samsung would not use the external antenna port the same way as everyone else. I'll contact sammy and see what's up.
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My friend has a cabin in the woods. The real problem you might have is that dishes need to be fixed in one spot and precisely pointed. I googled and could only find wifi reflectors.
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My friend has a cabin in the woods. The real problem you might have is that dishes need to be fixed in one spot and precisely pointed. I googled and could only find wifi reflectors.
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There is a cabin on a hilltop that would be the perfect place for one. Just need a clear answer from samsung about it.
abuthemagician said:
There is a cabin on a hilltop that would be the perfect place for one. Just need a clear answer from samsung about it.
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Okay, this might help you, take a look at this little well priced tech marvel:
http://bestcelldist.com/samsung_galaxy_note_lte_widepatch.html
Pros ::::::It is just the coupling, This inductive coupling will tie into any type antenna system you might like. You can specify any end connector when you order ..
It is only $30 bucks. I know it is not as economical as a simple connector but an could turn out to be an excellent alternative if it turns out you can't mate a physical connector.
Cons::::::There is Rf loss without the physical attachment, around 40% , though with the right antenna/booster you could easily be sending fish picks to jealous friends back home....
By the way,the link below still sells the connector that will trash a Samsung Captivate, They do warn that attaching an external antenna "might" damage your phone in "rare" circumstances......they sell it for about $12, nice profit on some suckers $100 dollar loss.... some things never change, eh...... Let the Buyer Beware.
http://www.alternativewireless.com/antenna-adapter-samsung-galaxy-s.html
Official response from Samsung Support on G+:
Hi Travis! Unfortunately, we don't have any support information concerning this as we don't support 3rd party extermal antennas. Please reach out to the manufacturer for further information. Thanks!
No surprise really
I will keep the inductive version in mind. I will also update the post with any other info I find. Going to try an contact Cyanogen as his wife has a GNote and he works for Samsung.
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Okay, this might help you, take a look at this little well priced tech marvel:
http://bestcelldist.com/samsung_galaxy_note_lte_widepatch.html
I will keep the inductive cable in mind.
Pros ::::::It is just the coupling, This inductive coupling will tie into any type antenna system you might like. You can specify any end connector when you order ..
It is only $30 bucks. I know it is not as economical as a simple connector but an could turn out to be an excellent alternative if it turns out you can't mate a physical connector.
Cons::::::There is Rf loss without the physical attachment, around 40% , though with the right antenna/booster you could easily be sending fish picks to jealous friends back home....
By the way,the link below still sells the connector that will trash a Samsung Captivate, They do warn that attaching an external antenna "might" damage your phone in "rare" circumstances......they sell it for about $12, nice profit on some suckers $100 dollar loss.... some things never change, eh...... Let the Buyer Beware.
http://www.alternativewireless.com/antenna-adapter-samsung-galaxy-s.html
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Thanks for sharing the update from Samsung. Looking forward to the details of how you cracked this nut and and your results. A photo fish story post from that mountain cabin would be a nice touch. Best of luck.
"Up with Open source, long live Xda"
yea, thanks for looking into this
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I will keep the inductive version in mind. I will also update the post with any other info I find. Going to try an contact Cyanogen as his wife has a GNote and he works for Samsung.
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I've contacted a couple of seemingly legit manufactures as I still have an old Wilson's antenna that worked incredibly well in the middle of a great lake on a sail boat with an old Nokia phone about 10 years ago.
I would love to find a connector to the samsung note sgh i717 ...
thanks for posting what you know. Wish Samsung would have the nuts to look into it and provide the community some info with a harsh disclaimer to avoid dealing with warranties rather than say nothing.
If you find anything else out, please post!
Hello,
I asked about this on another topic, but I figured it was alittle too off-topic to discuss on there, so I'm starting a new one based on the question I asked. So the camera glass on my Rezound is cracked. NOT THE LENS ITSELF, just the glass that is in front of it. The crack does not show up in pictures, unless the camera lens is aiming directly at a light source. So, is there any way I can fix this, like buy a new glass "cover" for it online somewhere and replace it? And if someone knows how to do this, can you please give me step-by-step instructions on how to replace the glass? I just want to make sure that I don't break anything, as I've never had to take my phone APART before.
I talked to a guy at my local Cellairis stand about this, and he said it is just not possible to do replace the glass in front of the lens (he took off the back cover, took a quick 2-3 millisecond look, and gave it back). Again, I'm no expert on this, but it appears possible to take the red casing on the inside of the phone off, because when you take off the back cover there are 4 miniature screws around the edge of it. So by the guy saying it's not possible, I'm not sure if he meant taking off the back cover and all, or actually finding a replacement glass for it.
I've seen threads on this for similar phones like the Thunderbolt, but I don't want to take any chances in breaking my Rezound because there is probably some differences between a Thunderbolt and a Rezound.
A picture of the camera crack. There are 2 cracks going through, forming an X like shape. I know it is hard to see, the phone I took the picture of it with is not the best camera-phone around (LGL35G):
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Same, but in different lighting so it's a bit easier to see the cracks:
Here's 2 of the 4 screws I was talking about. These are on the bottom. I took the liberty of highlighting them in Paint for you guys, you should notice them quite quickly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592773
I know you can access the glass but I don't know if its replaceable. Maybe buy a parts phone and replace the entire red cover if not
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jasonmerc said:
Hello,
I asked about this on another topic, but I figured it was alittle too off-topic to discuss on there, so I'm starting a new one based on the question I asked. So the camera glass on my Rezound is cracked. NOT THE LENS ITSELF, just the glass that is in front of it. The crack does not show up in pictures, unless the camera lens is aiming directly at a light source. So, is there any way I can fix this, like buy a new glass "cover" for it online somewhere and replace it?
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i believe i may have an extra one
Is there any damage done to it (especially the glass part that covers the lens)? And how much would you be asking for it?
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I PM'd you last night but I guess it didn't go thru. PM me your address and I'll send you the red back with the glass cover
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jasonmerc said:
Is there any damage done to it (especially the glass part that covers the lens)? And how much would you be asking for it?
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nah no damage...if this one @tholmes8291 is giving you ever breaks ill have this one as well
tholmes8291 said:
I PM'd you last night but I guess it didn't go thru. PM me your address and I'll send you the red back with the glass cover
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Yes, I actually did get your PM. I sent you one back. Sorry for the late response, I haven't checked back on this thread in a while.
jasonmerc said:
Yes, I actually did get your PM. I sent you one back. Sorry for the late response, I haven't checked back on this thread in a while.
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No prob. PM'd
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Well, tholmes very generously let me purchase a middle plate from him. It is perfect. Was the exact fix to the problem. No more glare lines!!!
Outdoors scene picture. It was exceptionally bright when I took the picture, which would reveal small glare lines around the bottom left (not as obvious as taking a picture directly looking into a light source, but they were there). Now it looks perfect:
Picture of the camera directly looking into a light source. This would create very obvious glare lines before but now:
A look through the old cracked camera glass (as best I could) at the same light source as the picture above. You can easily tell where the glare lines would have been just by looking through the glass lens on the old plate:
Glad your problem is solved!
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